Read his post again. Your reply has nothing to do with his post. His post is saying that an SMP system will speed up even a single-threaded game, as long as the OS itself is multi-threaded. The game can run on one CPU, while the OS uses the other CPU for the network, disk, and video overhead.
Have you ever thought that perhaps they were too busy or just plain missed it?
Or perhaps they (or the story submitter) have a tad of a Linux bias...
They do it out of there free time, not like they are getting payed: They have more then enough right to miss a stuff and screw up and spell things wrong.
No, they are doing this as a job, and they get paid. Rob himself mentioned that Slashdot is now his only source of income, as he has no other job. It's a job that they do for a living, and *do* get paid for, so what you say above does not apply.
Why would you pay $500 on ebay for Star Wars tickets? I can go down to my local theatre and buy opening day tickets, even now, less than twenty four hours in advance. I think only the midnight showing has sold out, the rest still have tickets available. Apparently Star Wars is not as popular as the media would have us believe.
They are not contradictory. Linux was opensource from day 1. MS was not. Taking a pre-existing large closed bohemoth of code and opening it at a later date is not very useful. Especially when the plan is to only open some small parts of it (read the article), and leave the rest closed. With the way everything in Windows is interdependant, opening up only part of the code is not very useful: "Oh, look, here they call the foobar function - Is that very efficient? I don't know, I can't see the foobar function..."
So you oppose the Mozilla project, since it was not Open Source from day 1?
Is anyone thinking about an "Enterprise Linux Distribution?
I wouldn't hold your breath. Linux is largely developed by volunteers, many of them college students (and most of the rest under 30). I seriously doubt any of them can afford to buy a Cray to play around with in their spare time.
Geez, people, I was not saying "only palefaced nerds with no girlfriends read slashdot." I was merely stating that saying "AOL users and local TV watchers are idiots" is as stupid as saying "only palefaced nerds with no girlfriends read slashdot."
Both are stereotypes, and neither is true. There are non-nerd slashdot readers, and there are intelligent AOL users.
Murphy, of Murphy's Law ("If anything can go wrong, it will") fame, states:
You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time, and that's sufficient.
I searched for some info on the one I was recalling ("You can please all of the people some of the time, or some of the people all of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time"). It's apparently an extremely old cliché, and thus it's likely that it was around during Murphy's time, and Murphy made a pun by changing some of the words around.
We could just call it the GNU OS and get it over with. Except for the kernel replacing the as-yet-unfinished HURD, it's the GNU OS. Sure, it's technically GNU/Linux, but just saying "GNU" is a lot faster. Hopefully HURD will get done soon so we won't have this problem anymore.
The problem is that they don't want OS benchmarks. They want complete system benchmarks of the OS running with the best webserver available for the platform. For NT that's IIS. For Linux that's Apache. You can't say "no fair, they have a better webserver than Linux does" and expect them to downgrade to Apache for the tests.
Friday afternoon, the network slashdot was on was messed up for around five hours. However, after it came back up, the slashdot box itself was down for around 2 hours (I kept getting "connection on port 80 refused" from it, so it was obviously up and responding, just FUBARed).
How many times does the "Linux Community Inc." need to tell these people that Apache wasn't ment for speed!? Why is Apache designated as the One True web server? Benchmarking static Apache vs. static IIS is pointless. Any programmer worth his salt could cook up a few dozen lines of code that would outperform both servers on pure static content.
True, but no webserver should be that horrendous at serving static pages. While not the main purpose of most enterprise servers, some major servers do serve a lot of static data, and most of the rest serve at least a significant amount, so static serving speed is indeed important. Apache needs to improve in this field.
Rather than bitching about the benchmarks, fix Apache, then you won't have to bitch about the benchmarks anymore.
So is the book in fact Open Source? Many of the pages still say All Rights Reserved. Have they just not gotten around to taking these notices out, or are the rights still reserved?
If the book is indeed still "All Rights Reserved," and therefore "free beer," but not "free speech," then it obviously cannot be considered "open sourced" as the slashdot headline states. If they're claiming it's open source just because they let us read the book for free, that's not any better than Al Gore's stupid "open source website" project.
I have no problem with them providing the book free online and keeping the copyrights reserved. However, they cannot call that "Open Source," as that is neither accurate nor permissible under the trademark.
Umm, no it's not. Slashdot is run by BSI, a company, not a non-profit organization. Rob has said himself that he makes money from Slashdot's banner ads. In fact, since Rob has no other job, Slashdot is his sole source of income.
dumbass.
You remind me of a middle school student. Are you 12 or 13?
Maybe you should too. The full name of the GPL is the GNU General Public License. No "open source" or "free software" anywhere. So in other words: They likely meant "open source" as a qualifier to explain that the GPL is an open source licens (which is true).
I am well aware of the fact that "open source" was used as a qualifier. However, the proper term to use as a qualifier is "free software," as the GNU GPL is a Free Software license. It is not related to the Open Source Initiative, and the Free Software Foundation has never even sought OSI certification of the GNU GPL as an Open Source(tm) license.
I agree, this definitely looks useful. When I want to do something simple internet-related, writing a REBOL script is a lot better than writing a C program or Perl script...
Slashdot Mirror
*sigh*
Read his post again. Your reply has nothing to do with his post. His post is saying that an SMP system will speed up even a single-threaded game, as long as the OS itself is multi-threaded. The game can run on one CPU, while the OS uses the other CPU for the network, disk, and video overhead.
Have you ever thought that perhaps they were too busy or just plain missed it?
Or perhaps they (or the story submitter) have a tad of a Linux bias...
They do it out of there free time, not like they are getting payed: They have more then enough right to miss a stuff and screw up and spell things wrong.
No, they are doing this as a job, and they get paid. Rob himself mentioned that Slashdot is now his only source of income, as he has no other job. It's a job that they do for a living, and *do* get paid for, so what you say above does not apply.
Why would you pay $500 on ebay for Star Wars tickets? I can go down to my local theatre and buy opening day tickets, even now, less than twenty four hours in advance. I think only the midnight showing has sold out, the rest still have tickets available. Apparently Star Wars is not as popular as the media would have us believe.
They are not contradictory. Linux was opensource from day 1. MS was not. Taking a pre-existing large closed bohemoth of code and opening it at a later date is not very useful. Especially when the plan is to only open some small parts of it (read the article), and leave the rest closed. With the way everything in Windows is interdependant, opening up only part of the code is not very useful: "Oh, look, here they call the foobar function - Is that very efficient? I don't know, I can't see the foobar function..."
So you oppose the Mozilla project, since it was not Open Source from day 1?
Is that why they're being sued and the judge has issued numerous injunctions against them?
Is anyone thinking about an "Enterprise Linux Distribution?
I wouldn't hold your breath. Linux is largely developed by volunteers, many of them college students (and most of the rest under 30). I seriously doubt any of them can afford to buy a Cray to play around with in their spare time.
No, i would've prefered coming this evening, U.S. time or coming 18:00 PDT
Geez, people, I was not saying "only palefaced nerds with no girlfriends read slashdot." I was merely stating that saying "AOL users and local TV watchers are idiots" is as stupid as saying "only palefaced nerds with no girlfriends read slashdot."
Both are stereotypes, and neither is true. There are non-nerd slashdot readers, and there are intelligent AOL users.
Sounds fine to me. Just like Linuxies or Solarisies.
Murphy, of Murphy's Law ("If anything can go wrong, it will") fame, states:
You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time, and that's sufficient.
I searched for some info on the one I was recalling ("You can please all of the people some of the time, or some of the people all of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time"). It's apparently an extremely old cliché, and thus it's likely that it was around during Murphy's time, and Murphy made a pun by changing some of the words around.
We could just call it the GNU OS and get it over with. Except for the kernel replacing the as-yet-unfinished HURD, it's the GNU OS. Sure, it's technically GNU/Linux, but just saying "GNU" is a lot faster. Hopefully HURD will get done soon so we won't have this problem anymore.
The actual AOL soundbyte is "You've Got Mail." Still not good grammar, but at least somewhat better.
from the some-of-the-people-all-of-the-time dept.
That doesn't really have anything to do with this story. The full quote (I can't recall who said it) is,
"You can please some of the people all of the time, or all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time."
It refers to the impossibility of a "perfect" solution to anything, and has absolutely nothing to do with stupid people.
While we're on the topic of ignorant stereotyping, only palefaced nerds with no girlfriends read slashdot.
The problem is that they don't want OS benchmarks. They want complete system benchmarks of the OS running with the best webserver available for the platform. For NT that's IIS. For Linux that's Apache. You can't say "no fair, they have a better webserver than Linux does" and expect them to downgrade to Apache for the tests.
Friday afternoon, the network slashdot was on was messed up for around five hours. However, after it came back up, the slashdot box itself was down for around 2 hours (I kept getting "connection on port 80 refused" from it, so it was obviously up and responding, just FUBARed).
Again... Zues!
Did you mean Zeus perhaps?
How many times does the "Linux Community Inc." need to tell these people that Apache wasn't ment for speed!? Why is Apache designated as the One True web server? Benchmarking static Apache vs. static IIS is pointless. Any programmer worth his salt could cook up a few dozen lines of code that would outperform both servers on pure static content.
True, but no webserver should be that horrendous at serving static pages. While not the main purpose of most enterprise servers, some major servers do serve a lot of static data, and most of the rest serve at least a significant amount, so static serving speed is indeed important. Apache needs to improve in this field.
Rather than bitching about the benchmarks, fix Apache, then you won't have to bitch about the benchmarks anymore.
So is the book in fact Open Source? Many of the pages still say All Rights Reserved. Have they just not gotten around to taking these notices out, or are the rights still reserved?
If the book is indeed still "All Rights Reserved," and therefore "free beer," but not "free speech," then it obviously cannot be considered "open sourced" as the slashdot headline states. If they're claiming it's open source just because they let us read the book for free, that's not any better than Al Gore's stupid "open source website" project.
I have no problem with them providing the book free online and keeping the copyrights reserved. However, they cannot call that "Open Source," as that is neither accurate nor permissible under the trademark.
However, Rob has said himself that he makes money from Slashdot. In fact, it's his only source of income, since he has no other job.
umm, Slashdot is a non-profit organization,
Umm, no it's not. Slashdot is run by BSI, a company, not a non-profit organization. Rob has said himself that he makes money from Slashdot's banner ads. In fact, since Rob has no other job, Slashdot is his sole source of income.
dumbass.
You remind me of a middle school student. Are you 12 or 13?
Well, slashdot.org is also a blatant violation of what .org is supposed to be for, but we don't complain about that.
Maybe you should too. The full name of the GPL is the GNU General Public License. No "open source" or "free software" anywhere. So in other words: They likely meant "open source" as a qualifier to explain that the GPL is an open source licens (which is true).
I am well aware of the fact that "open source" was used as a qualifier. However, the proper term to use as a qualifier is "free software," as the GNU GPL is a Free Software license. It is not related to the Open Source Initiative, and the Free Software Foundation has never even sought OSI certification of the GNU GPL as an Open Source(tm) license.
No.
X is a windowing system. It is not part of the OS. A Linux box can run perfectly fine without X. It cannot run perfectly fine without libc.
The Mozilla and KDE comment was even more ignorant, as those are obviously just applications.
I agree, this definitely looks useful. When I want to do something simple internet-related, writing a REBOL script is a lot better than writing a C program or Perl script...