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Linux.com to go Live Tonight
Chip Stillmore writes
"Just read this news.com.
Apparently Linux.com is
supposed to be going live today. " The page simply says
tonight. I've seen what they're doing over there. It isn't
at all what I really expected when they announced that
they had bought the domain, but it ain't bad. As long as
it covers the newbie stuff though, I'm happy. As of 2300 Eastern, it's live!
Here is what I found out.
Apache/1.3.6 Server at linux.com Port 80
It's got a bunch of "news" items to Linux Today and feature articles. Looks okay.
That's how I found out!
Great site, VA Research. I simply love it. Simple, nice and neat. Easy to find things.
a link to gnu.org. And I have no clue what userfriendly has to do with Linux (or themes.org).
Dumb idiot user types "linux.com". Idiot finds slashdot.org link. Idiot clicks. Rob brings in money from banner.
The Linux community can not only create good software.. but improve on the mouse trap too!
I for one will be glad when the hype machine breaks down and the Linux community can be what it used to be. I remember a time when you didn't have to question people's motives. You just had fun using and creating software. Now its create web pages. It's not about content. It's all about pretty graphics. And hype. Egos too.
Then again, what do I know. I'm just a dumb AC. One which has been using Linux for years. One which happens to know more than one computer language. One which has given to the free software world, and almost did it again. But, then this AC had a thought "Why am I donating my time? This isn't fun. These people are using my time and energy to gain fame. Money. A bigger ego." Where is the recognition? Nowhere to be found. I know less kernel coders than I do web page authors. The only reason I would consider creating free software today is out of respect for RMS' view on software. I certainly wouldn't do it for Linux users.
Is the hardware configuration stated anywhere on the site?
Elvis - I'm pretty sure this would be possible - it let's you write routines for everything - including pre-save, post-save, pre-load, post-load, etc....
I've never tried version control with it, but it would seem possible from the hooks I've seen.
a.
I'm sure the guys from VA wouldnt mind letting you hang a entry for kernel.linux.com off their dns!
Gavin
errrm, lose the sig... I laughed, but an absolute newbie may try it...
LOL. Heh. True (I C UR Point)... Buuut, not to spoil the party, so to speak, I was just suggesting webmasters give a little more space now so they won't have to update large databases, etc... in the future.
Hmmm, ever wonder where VA get's it internet connectivity from?
traceroute www.varesearch.com
7 ds3-h2-0.paix.he.net (204.188.70.2) 24 ms 21 ms 22 ms
8 gw.pa.via.net (209.81.1.2) 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms
9 10.100.0.2 (10.100.0.2) 19 ms 17 ms 20 ms
10 stronghold.varesearch.com (209.81.14.8) 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms
traceroute www.linux.com
7 ds3-h2-0.paix.he.net (204.188.70.2) 21 ms 37 ms 20 ms
8 gw.pa.via.net (209.81.1.2) 19 ms 19 ms 24 ms
9 10.100.0.2 (10.100.0.2) 19 ms 21 ms 28 ms
10 linux.com (209.81.14.243) 18 ms 23 ms 24 ms
Pretty much everyone has to get connectivity from someone else, unless of course you're the phone company... Make sense now???
It looks good to me. I don't know what people are whinging about. I think the Tuning section is neat.
There already is pseudo-shareware, isn't there? I don't know the exact terms, but it seemed like Sybase and Oracle's free downloads were shareware. I say pseudo-shareware because unlike the shareware I know about -- try, pay, end of deal -- these are try a free sample, pay for full version, end of deal. Also look at Metro-X, Applix, BRU-2000.
Or maybe you mean ``personal'' shareware. This could happen. I don't know how far off it will be, but I'm sure even now there are a few people giving away binaries asking for money if one likes the program (you probably won't see that on freshmeat though).
check out http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP
They have a pretty complete listing of all current Linux projects.
That is humiliating. They are obviously not using a Unix-based tool to make the pages.
Mark
Just did an informal poll of 100 people and only 22 of them knew what GMT was and 15 the difference. So...my users are ignorant. Tell me something I didn't know.
the linux.com site is running debian which is the only linux distro that I use. The last time that I called VA research about Server Hardware (I usually build my own, but it would make supporting the community easier to do w/ direct ordering) they told me that they only pre-install Red Crap (please no flames ;) Unless I'm missing something isn't that a little strange?
Hi fellow AC, I'm responding. Last I checked, a while ago, #lwz was actually partly college guys. Instead of Linux you could try the Hurd, but without PPP support yet many Linux people don't have much interest in it (like me). I tried the BeOS sample CD and came running back to Debian. I don't feel betrayed. I'm happy there are still good people out there (like Debian) who are not selling out. Of course being non-profit, Debian couldn't really sell out too easily.
The Netherlands have very little Millionaires actually.
from what Trae (linux.com and ex-themes.org webmaster, & OctoberX on Slashdot) said when i hung out with him for a few hours at LinuxExpo (yes, i got to go..it rocked :)), they had 4.1 or 4.2 *million* hits in the first day, over 400,000 of which were unique IPs. Very cool.
and BTW, they wanted the timing of linux.com's opening to coincide with an Expo beginning: voila. The one in Raleigh.
--Anneke
// Linux.com: A Means to World Liberation
// Copyright 1999 (c) The Linux.com Team
//
// Modified Tue May 18 12:46:06 PDT 1999 by Garrett LeSage
Janic, sans cookie.
Another little, sticky, point I have with (all) US websites that you can enter your address info, etc... on (for whichever purpose they require the info. for). Why is the Postal Code/Zip Code only for 5 letters/numbers when you list other countries (incl. mine, Canada). We need seven letters, 6 for the LNL NLN format, and one for the space... Even a bug in ICQ, the same. I even contacted one website about it, whose services I wanted to use, and even though I got a personal response from the webmaster (2 months ago) the bug was still there (a month or so ago). Can't remember the darn webpage though now... :-(
BTW: I hear some of the US is going to switch to 7 digit Zip Codes "someday". This is gonna suck for these silly web designer types...
The design is very appealing for the non-commercial visitor and
has what it takes to impress bosses as well. I really like the
layout and use of color, and so far I haven't noticed animated
gifs wreaking havoc.
Also, I found the feature articles non-technical enough for
general readers but not for dummies. This is the market Linux
needs to seek more of - highly literate people who are not
necessarily computer professionals.
Maybe not the usual newbie advice right now. Remember that
this is a portal and I'm sure a newbie section will develop
and/or links to sites that specialize in newbie advice. More
important for this kind of site is really well written articles that
will cause a reader who is not already using Linux to read the
articles for their own sake. Can you find anything like that at
the Microsoft site? Certainly not. The articles should cause
new people to want to ask questions and find out more, not
necessarily about Linux though. As a history major in college
who is now a programmer, I can appreciate that.
Overall I am very impressed. Remeber that this site, if it
really becomes a heavily used portal, will evolve based on the
needs of people who use the portal. Of course they will
provide feedback.
By comparison the linux.org site is not so well designed and
is not updated frequently enough. Artistically there is no
comparison - linux.com rocks. In the past I've been distressed
that so many home pages link to linux.org as the place to get
information about Linux. I feel that linux.org has the right flavor
and hope it keeps that flavour and that it mellows.
They are using Debian. This is neat because I won't have to worry about content from their site (software related, at least) being distribution-biased -- which might have happened if commercial ``value-added'' vendors supported the site.
Also, did they prepare themselves for the Slashdot effect or did the Phantom Menace debut deter most of the would-be hits from the site? It loaded pretty fast.
I don't really like the idea of a Slashdot-like comment posting system. This is a site that will be read by point-haired bosses, I think. If they had read about any ``Linux community arguments'' on ZDnet or wherever else, seeing it firsthand might make them worry about the stability of Linux. Actually, I may just be over-worrying that the comment system might get too out of hand and become tiring to read.
Hello fellow AC. I agree with your statements. The Linux community is becoming... gross, to me. At least it's better than Microsoft Windows, in every way, though. I'd like to stick with a Unix type OS. Once you go Unix, you never go back. But Linux is becoming a joke. Look at Red Hat Software. And no, I'm not jealous. How could anyone get the idea that one is jealous over the things that have been happening to Linux. What do you suggest I use instead of Linux? Perhaps I will give FreeBSD a chance. Then you've got the same people running Linux.com that run #LinuxWAREZ on the sickening IRC network, EFnet. They are just children, and it's amazing how far they've been able to get. My friend, we have been betrayed by the Linux Community.
A bit off-topic, but if you want to filter out ads and irritating things on the web, there are filter programs out there. I'm happy with InterMute, free trials at http://www.intermute.com. I use the Win version, but they have a harder-to-set-up Linux version as well. Highly recommended...my web-surfing frustration went way down after installing this. It acts as a proxy server, and lets you optionally knock out ads (based on a configurable database), animated GIFs, background images, spawned pop-up windows, and other things you may find annoying. (No affiliation with 'em, just a happy customer :-).
I have to say for a company with so many great people involved and also so much money, this is not at all better then linux.org. My biggest complaint is that it is worthless for a new user. The resource links to a busines section (gee i wonder if va is trying sell machines) and the suport section offers no original advice, just pointers to the howto's and a few (good) new linux support agencies.
I certainly would like to see the site grow and will give feedback to them, but considering that this is supposed to be the cream of the crop of the linux community again i think this site is rather weak.
I'm really proud to see companies like VA Linux Labs giving back so much to the community. VA seems to be donating a lot of hardware to different projects, obviously doing linux.com, providing bandwidth to free projects, and all that other stuff.
I really do like living in a world where companies want to see how they can help the world much more than in one where companies just try to make as much profit as possible (although in terms of profit, I've started buying from good companies). I'm glad to see VA joining the crows.
linux.com is a really nice site; an order of magnitude more professional than Linux.org. It's a slight bit cluttered, and would look a little better on my 1024x768 if it had less stuff horizontally, but it's still a lot better than most anything else out there.
Keep up the good work. I'll try to buy my next server at work from VA (I work in a lab standardizing on Debian).
It's true, portals are usually scary. They tend to be money and therefore ad-driven. How else can they support themselves?
However, Linux.com is different. VA is backing the site but not interfering with its content *or* using it as an ad platform. Linux.com won't have banner ads and it won't preach "VA". No biases, no commercialization.
Crazy you say? The same was said about a 'free operating system' once upon a time...
Why filter the ads? We have an option right under user prefs to turn them off if you really want. (We thought it would be a good idea, since most of us don't really like ads much ourselves, generally)...
Of course, on Linux.com, it's different -- the "ads" aren't really ads in the traditional sense. There's nothing really to sell. The "ads" are just graphical links to community sites. Turn off the ads if you like. Personally, even though I know the option is there and REALLY support the use of it, I think in this case allowing the ads is actually supporting the community. Honest. Under my user prefs, I have the banners turned on.
If you have any other concerns with the site, don't hesistate to e-mail us at feedback@linux.com, and we'll try our best to cater to your suggestions.
No, i would've prefered coming this evening, U.S. time or coming 18:00 PDT
10 PRINT CHR$(205.5+RND(1)); : GOTO 10
Posted by d106ene5:
Phil Hughes incorrectly compares BSD and linux - he states that *BSD is not multiplatform.
NetBSD users should find this amusing - it was multi-platform before linux.
Posted by Fleeno:
Did anyone notice the link to their hosting company, http://www.via.net? I wonder why it's not a VA.
And what's the deal with via.net? They have a FAQ that hasn't been updated since 1997 and answers the burning question, "Do you support 28.8 modems?"
Posted by ~not:
Trust me, we talk about this in many engineering meetings. At VA we run Debian, Redhat, SuSE and Caldera (I have a Yellow Dog box at home too). We're trying to get together the best computers possible.
I prefer Debian, with a close second on SuSE. But 'Redhat Linux' is the most commonly asked for distro. But that could all change as fast as 2.2...
Posted by d106ene5:
In the "comparative review of OSes", every OS has a disadvantage listed except for linux.
I thought the linux community was supposed to be above FUD?
Thanks for putting the site up at that new URL. LinuxHQ is a fantastic resource. And, thanks for your hard work on it!
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I like the site: well laid-out, nice color scheme, and the sub-pages have a cool style. The front page is a bit busy, but not so much that it overwhelms. Lots of good links to info. Perhaps a bit much for a newbie, but the site does have a lot of info that can be perused and thought about. I especially liked iliad's history lesson, and the esr interview was a kicker. Overall, a nice job to the webmaster(s) and admins!
I really like the graphics; kinda soft and friendly.
"shop smart:shop s-mart" ash
Okay, so this is probably me just being picky - but for something that's mean to serve the Linux community, which is WORLD WIDE then putting up a banner saying "...please wait coming this evening..." seems a little short sited to me. There are people outside the US (I know, I've seen some of them).
A small point, but I don't want this to be a trend of not looking further than linux.com's back yard.
-- Dougal
it's been like that forever, and not just in software and computers. People will recognize and identify with the glitzy, with the eyecandy and the personality.
writing a compiler is a DAMN IMPORTANT task, I admit. but people take it for granted. Someone writes a glitzy fast way-cool desktop and people can SEE it, they can PLAY with it and they identify with it.
Same with cars... do you know who invented the internal combustion engine or do you know rather the people behind the ferrari and the porche? It's always been, and always will be about glitz and eyecandy.
I'm not saying it's *right*, I'm saying that it's not just related to computers.
I assume tonight means Pacific Standard Time, because they are in Sunnyvale CA. That's too bad for me, because I'll be in line for seats at Star Wars tonight. I guess linux.com will have to wait until tomorrow. I feel for the engineers that have to make sure the site stays running on it's opening day.
Joseph Elwell.
It's about time. One of the biggest paradoxes in the Linux community is the argument over how to "sell" Linux to the mainstream. Nobody wants Linux to commercialize and to many, that means no selling, but sales is more than just making money. I, for one, am quite glad that VA Research, a highly respected company in the Linux community is taking responsibility for selling Linux and rather than do it through marketing or gimmicks, they're doing it through the one thing that Linux community actually has over its competition: community. One of commercialism's great knocks on Linux is that you can't expect good support from something written by many different individuals. Well, hopefully a site that coalesces and displays our community's greatest asset (it's knowledge) will start turning doubters into users.
VA Research and the Advisory Board should be commended on their efforts (international considerations or not) and the Linux community should be given a pat on the back for showing that people can get together and produce both good software and ideas.
The best, and my favorite part of linux.com is the graphics. The graphics are all well-done and fit into each section perfectly. Among my favorites are the full picture of the baby-tux penguin, the press hat on the press page, and the good-looking 404 page. Never before have I been happier to get a 404 error, ok, maybe not, but that penguin I see enlights me. :)
'Powered by Debian'.
:)
Do you make everything this difficult?
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Rob, how can it not be what you expected? According to this you're on the board of directors for the site? Hadn't heard that.
Anyway, I hope they keep up a good archive of projects being worked on. Thats the thing I miss the most about linux.com -- these days I can never find various projects when I want to. freshmeat.net and the (almost as useful) linuxapps.com are good, but have a lot of fluff in them, and aren't really project-based.
> What made you leave PHT?
:-)
After building about 300 RPMs, I couldn't take it anymore. I think dpkg has brainwashed me.
Cheers,
- Jim
LinuxHQ.com is gone because the original creator of the site took back the domain name, and pulled it offline. As somebody who volunteered to run the site for 2+ years, I'm disgusted.
As for me, I didn't go to work for VA a few months back. I did start at Pacific HiTech, but I decided not to stay.
Cheers,
- Jim
http://linuxhq.jimpick.com/
That should work as a temporary fix.
Cheers,
- Jim
Well it appears that they may be looking for more people to work on linux.com see towards the bottom of this page:
http://www.linux.com/version/
It doesn't say anything about pay but as it's a commercial website and they want a CV then it's a fair bet that you should be getting paid for it.
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Well - I don't know what exactly you're expecting, but I can say that it's
fairly dynamic. I've been looking at it for the past
couple of days - they've got some big plans for the site, and
they've put a lot of work into it. (you should see the hardware
driving the site at the ISP)
I do know that a lot of people are concerned about the whole
"VA-run linux.com" but really I think that VA has done a pretty
good job of just hanging back and making the occasional comment
(besides being the ringleader of the group of volunteers that
have been working on the site).
anyways, that is my two cents.
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Geoff Harrison (http://mandrake.net)
Senior Software Engineer - VA Linux Labs (http://www.valinux.com)
Geoff "Mandrake" Harrison
Some Random UI Hacker
Live from the IRC launch party, this looks REALLY nice, guys, kickass work on the design, and kudos to the admins for putting together a cluster that didn't crack under the load. I've been browsing it ever since it went live, and nothing noticeably lagged for this particular modem user. More kudos for putting together some content, too. Now all we need is a picture of the machines, and the switch (is it smoking yet?)
Its pretty normal, actually. Think of how many ISP's use linux in their servers, but won't support end users who use linux. Using and supporting are two totally different things. For whatever reason, they only load RH onto systems. That's no reason for their internal IT dept. to have to use RH.
;)
btw, if you don't want to be flamed, don't call it Red Crap. Free advice
The enemies of Democracy are
Maybe as a result of the latest Mindcraft debate this site has a tune-up section. M$ watch out..
Help fight continental drift.
-John
It looks pretty cool, I guess I know what domain I'll be hanging out on tonight.
Cheers
My studio - www.graylands.ca
The mailing lists for debian and the irc help is more or less the best there is for any OS.
Go to www.debian.org and learn more. It's a great user supported system.
This site is nice. Just got in. Looks great, looks
professional. Well done to all involved!
I used the Advanced Search Form and just highlighted my state and clicked "Search". Although a listing might be useful, you can still get a listing of all the LUGs in your state.
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
Richard von Weizs
Wow, great site. The NHF concept is really useful, hope it catches on.
What made you leave PHT?
I remember when the bidding for this domain closed and the guy said that Microsoft had placed a bid in there. It says a lot about the guy who owned the domain that he didn't sell it to them, because they surely had piles more money than anyone else who bid. I've always really liked the integrity in the open source community, and I think that action there embodied quite a bit of it.
Despite all that, I'm still a little afraid of seeing this mega-portal site, though. Portals are always filled with advertisements and classified ads and all kinds of filler that bug the hell out of me, and I just don't want to see the site brought down to the lowest common denomitator like that.
http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,33186,00.html
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Other companies that expressed interest in the site, though not bids, included Dell, IBM, and Novell, said Fred van Kempen, who
registered the Linux.com domain. He declined to say how much any company offered, but did say that the new owner, VA
Research, paid "substantially less than the top offer of $5.5 million."
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I like the interface. Very slick icons. That Baby Tux image is cool.
The interview with esr was interesting. And check out the user preferences .
They are using debian (look at the nice graphics on the top of each page). Scott
Scott
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janitor
sdn website family
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I personally think that the site rocks. There is a great base to build from. Most sites I see nowadays do not have a good foundation to build from (inlcuding my website). I think that they did an most excellant job of the grpahics and design of the layout. Hopefully within a few weeks that site will be full of information. I also like how the site targets the newbies and the kernel hackers and the people in the middle (like myself).
Well that is my 2 cents worth (after being up for 20+ hours),
Scott
Scott
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I'll try to avoid sounding like another "Me too!" post (of which slashdot.org has no shortage *grin*).
I just wanted to voice my support for linux.com and the great people behind it. I had the opportunity to meet some of the people behind it recently. Not only do they do great work, but they are genuinely focused on making a good quality site for everyone. They've said from the beginning they wanted this to be a neutral site, and they've successfully done exactly that.
Congrats to Trae, Garrett, and Dan (et al.) for a flawless launch, and to VA for their unprecedented support of the Linux community. Great job guys!
Michael
Michael Jennings | HPC Systems Engineer, Lawrence Berkeley National Lab | Author, Eterm (eterm.org)
Read the comment tags in the source of every page:
"What are we? Transmeta? there are no secret messages hidden in the html."
Hmm. It says Version 0.1.0 -- Looks fine to me!
Conclusion: Yet another nicely designed Linux portal with a slick interface.
Looks like Debian. See "About Linux.com"
I believe its only a little after 5:00 p.m. there
now-they in the Pacific Time zone...
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Evan
rooooar
I really hope they're not lopsided towards one distribution or another. I'd especially like to see LinuxPPC newbie help.
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Evan
rooooar
On the front page they have a news service with news from themselves and LinuxToday. This doesn't really give much since I pick the news up elsewhere anyway, but once they start inserting their own news into the stream, this might improve the looks of it.
For some reasons, we're seeing lots of news cropping up at Linux sites. We have linux.com featuring linuxtoday, Red Hat featuring Slashdot and more. While having up-to-date news stories might be good, I think they'd both be better off focusing on their own news. People won't go to linux.com to read Linux Today, they will come there to read whats hot around linux.com.
Then they fail to mention the GNU Project, or even the FSF, anywhere. This is a lossage that I think should be corrected.
The Linux@Work place will most probably evolve to be terrific! It'll be a portal to all that you need to know about Linux@Work. This is a most welcomed addition.
We now go to the Linux.Com Live section, namely an IRC channel on OpenProjects. Thats all good and well, but will the questions that are answered there make their way back to Linux.Com for others to read? I don't think so, but that might be something to think about for the future. Having a bot online that records conversations and having someone go through it once a day shouldn't be a major task.
The LUG database will help you get connected with many other Linux users near you through a local LUG. Unfortunately, the only way to read the database seems to be to search it. This is a lossage because what if the LUG I'm searching for doesn't match the search query I entered? Searching is good, but there should probably also be a way to browse the LUG Database, perhaps broken down by country/state or something equivalent to that.
Their support section is also rather good since it contains links to most of the support centers that you need to know about as a new GNU/Linux user. They should find ways to interconnect this with the Linux.Com Live section, such as I suggested above with bringing answers back from IRC to the Web regularly.
Tuning Linux was mediocre at best. This is a situation where you probably should have thought about adding more content before making it public. It's a fair chance that people will watch it, see that "this is just old news", and never return. They should add more in-depth Linux tuning material here. As usual, this will probably come with time.
The one really positivt thing with Linux.Com that I found was their Weekly Columns, we've been seeing a few of those around on other sites aswell, but I find them really nice to read and most of the time also very interesting.
Their interviews could also become interesting with time. I think the interviewer needs more experience so that he'll know which questions to ask. I would recommend adding a function so that a week before an interview, you can see who they'll be interviewing and be able to add your own questions to the spool. Then they would get a better view of what the readers would like to know and can ask questions that better responds to that.
Summary: Linux.Com is a good site, but where's the content?
ESR has sold himself out by giving the interview, while he's being a member of the Linux.com board.
What kind of distribution do they run ?
Hardware?
The Subject says it all.
Although, the pengiun logo in the upper-right hand side doesnt load correctly... I use Navigator 3.04 though...
Anyone notice if they have an image available we can use to link to their site ?
IIRC, Van Kempen scooped up the linux.com domain to prevent any one Linux distribution from taking the domain and thus the crown of "The One True Linux". One of the reasons he responded to the VA Research bid is because it's in VA's best financial interests to be distribution-agnostic.
--The basis of all love is respect
installfest.net Where did it go?
I know that it contains information about Linux Day 99 (Sep 26th) (which is what I'm looking up info for ) But alas it is no where to be found.
The important thing here is for people who don't know too much about linux and who stumble accross linux.com will have a GOOD impression. (period) A well designed site, with GOOD answers in english that my mother, father and girlfriend will understand.
Good Job guys!
That isn't FUD, that's advertising, to a point. I mean, this site is in some ways analagous to say www.microsoft.com, or www.be.com (in function I mean). It's not going to treat Linux as if it were on equal ground with all other OSes, it's going to treat Linux as if it were the best OS there is. This is really what people expect, when they go to "www.linux.com". If they want to hear how good FreeBSD is, they'll go to its site. Obviously they're expected to be true to the facts, but I don't think this is exactly a forum for equal consideration. They're not just trying to _inform_, they're trying to _sell_ people on Linux. This isn't FUD. This is something that Linux needs done, if you want more people to use it, which I won't get into.
As for the site itself, I think it's an excellent design; far better than www.microsoft.com, which, through almost all of its incarnations, can be used as an excellent example of how NOT to design a web page. www.linux.com is the best new website I've seen in a while. It's pleasant to see, it's professional, and it has _content_. So far I'm impressed. Keep up the good work, linux.com people.
I have seen the future, and it is inconvenient.
hmmm doesn't tux.org have all the lug's listed? so why dont they (linux.com) just point to them? novalug and dclug have done a good job at building some content, and helping get the word out. hmmm think i better fwd this to the email list...
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
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The law is that which it boldly asserted and plausibly maintained..
--Colonel Burr 1783
The site is up now! have at it! i pity the admins of the site.
A snapshot of the please wait thing can be found at http://www.angelfire.com/ in/theymaybegiants/linuxcom.html if anyone cares.
-- rm -rf / tells you if you have root or not
Anyone else notice that www.linuxhq.com's DNS doesn't exist anymore. I can only guess that www.linux.com will have the same stuff and more. Didn't the maintainer of linuxhq.com start working for VA a few months back?
on first impression i have to say that linux.com hits the spot. true, i haven't got to the nuts and bolts of it yet, but then on the whole i could hardly claim anything but ignorance if i did. as a newcomer to the linux fold and hardly having technical background i wouldn't know [and have no desire] how to to delve deep within the intricate bowels of the beast.
/. -- a no fail combo.
as a content developer who is largely a linux newbie, linux.com is heading in the right direction to demystify the jargon which ultimately people like myself without a hardcore programming background find so alienating.
sure linux has been out of the closet for some time but ultimately its heritage has been an inhouse secret for those who give a rat's ass about the differential mechanics. all i want is stability -- and i want it now. it's an added bonus that it also results in a thorn in the side of the microsoft empire.
me, i'm an english freak. kill the purple prose and share enlightenment.
superficially the site has a clean mean interface with enough content to keep me happy for hours...obviously with benchmarking from tried and trued model
it can never be all things to all men/women but it definitely bridges a gap.
BLAMMO shaken not stirred
I must have missed something, but how much money did VA pay for the domain and to whom? I believe the previous owner of linux.com was Fred van Kempen, so do we have another dutch millionaire now?
Hmm, "linux" and "com"mercial... I hope they host things like the Linux Business Solutions Project. I realize it looks like PHB fodder, but I've found that page useful in the past myself.
Java: the COBOL of the new millenium.
An easy-to-remember URL for the search-impaired. Should help out with the mainstreaming of Linux.
thnx im trying....slowly but surely :)....its the users that really make the site go round.
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im trying to cater to the linuxnewbie both from the mac and intel side. actually, im trying to create a site for newbies of all unix related OS's...see if you can get some questions answered there. hope it helps. http://www.linuxnewbie.org
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