I suppose that's your personal opinion. That's not relevant to this discussion.
Every time he opens his mouth he chases the mainstream away from Linux and free software. He looks and smells like a wookie, and totally lacks any sense of professionalism.
Perhaps you miss the point. RMS has a goal of making good Free Software. He does not have a goal of selling such software and getting rich from it. If companies want to use it, that's fine by him, but he's not going to sell out his principles to make a quick buck, which is more than I can say for Mr. Raymond.
After all those years of "free software advocacy" RMS has gotten us nowhere.
Excuse me? "Nowhere"? Do you have really not have any idea of the history of what you're talking about, or are you just a troll?
RMS founded the Free Software Foundation, which started the GNU project. The GNU project is a project to produce a completely Free Operating System. At the moment, it is nearly finished except for the kernel. Until the kernel (HURD) is finished, you can run the rest of the OS with the Linux kernel (a GNU/Linux combination). Without GNU, and hence without RMS, there would be no Linux, as Linus would probably not have decided to undertake the task of writing a kernel if he also had to write the rest of the OS (his own C compiler (there would be no gcc), C library (no glibc), and various other things, such as ls, cat, grep, chmod, etc.)
Then ESR comes along. He understands how the corporate managers think. He can get on the phone with people like Lou Gerstner and talk their language. RMS comes off like some homeless turd preaching about the apocolypse on a street corner. People like Sam Ockman and ESR brought us the current prosperity that we enjoy. RMS has held us back for YEEEEARS. It has nothing to do with code. It has to do with advocacy.
ESR has repackaged Free Software by removing such objectionable things as "freedom" and repackaging it as Open Source. As such, he's sold the package to business at the expense of selling out the principles and philosophy behind the Free Software movement. This is why Bruce Perens quit the Open Source Initiative - because it's Free Software that matters.
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rebuild apps? *gasp*
Sort of like rebuilding during the a.out->ELF switch, eh?
Most likely not. A class-action suit is typically filed by parties directly injured by some company's practices. In this case, it would be filed by those directly injured by Microsoft's (alleged) monopolistic pricing. People affected in such a way would be those who bought Windows, who feel that they paid an unfairly high price for it as a direct result of monopolistic practices. SVLUG users typically do not buy Windows, so they'd have no reason to file suit.
ESR is generally perceived as being a bit too much on the pro-business side of things, while ignoring the Free Software side of things, and personally snubbing RMS several times because RMS is inconvenient when talking to businesses. Selling Open Source is fine, but trying to hide the people that make it work in order to sell more of it isn't.
Making such a graph for the very early years of computing should be relatively simple for those with the right data, since very few companies were actually producing computers. You'd have to get some records from IBM and a few others on how many computers (and of what types) they sold in what years, and that's it. No microcomputers to deal with, just the comparatively easy-to-count mainframes.
I just saw a fairly long (5-10 minutes) interview with Bob Young (RedHat CEO) on Fox News. He did a good job explaining his company and what it does, and agreed with what a lot of us have been saying - they're aiming at servers and enterprise computing, not the desktop, so they're not really competition for Windows95 (as Microsoft has been trying to claim they are). The reporter seemed a bit clueless though about how this whole Open Source deal works. He was confused about how RedHat could make money without controlling the OS, and seemed to think that Bob Young hoped to be the next Bill Gates.
Ok, this is the second invalid C syntax I've seen in the replies to this article, and this one's even worse. Something about Katz brings out all the wannabe programmers who pretend to know C.
1) if() requires parenthesis around the expression being evaluated. 2) you need something between coder and the opening parenthesis. You can't just stick another expression there with nothing connecting them. 3) What is a bitwise AND doing in there?
Even accounting for all the syntax errors, I have no idea what you're trying to say. "If katz is not a coder and insider is false and more commentary" perhaps? No matter how I look at it, it still doesn't make any sense.
In a vote, the readers of slashdot overwhelmingly voted to keep Katz around.
So tell me again why he does not belong here. If the owner and the audience want him around, why should he leave just because you and a few other vocal Anonymous Cowards personally dislike him?
The slashdot community will not favorably receive anybody, with the possible acception of Rob and Linus. It's not that Katz isn't technical enough, because the/. community flamed RMS, who is more technically sophisticated then any 10 random slashdotters put together. It's not that RMS isn't business-oriented enough, because ESR is flamed all the time. Basically, if it's not Linus, it gets flamed.
No, this site is "News for Nerds." Not "Life, The Universe and Everything."
Do people around here have abnormally short attention spans? Why is it that everybody gets sick of reading and quits before they get to the end of a simple six word slogan? Try: "News for Nerds. Stuff that Matters."
See that second sentence there? Next time read the entire thing, not just the first half.
Ok, now that I got the invalid C syntax out of the way, I'll take on the rest of it:P
Katz is "one of us" whether or not you want him to be. He may not be one of whatever group you represent, but he's part of this "community" of sorts. Rob invited him to write for slashdot. The users of slashdot voted overwhelmingly to keep him here. So if the owner and the users like Katz, who are you to say he doesn't belong?
That means absolutely nothing. That's "Katz is not equal to one of our own." What does equal have to do with it? "Katz" and "one of our own" are not comparable quantities...Katz would be a subset (or not) of "one of our own," not equal to it.
If, as I assume, you meant "Katz is not one of our own," and wanted to look like you were tech savvy or something by phrasing it in el33t pseudo-C syntax, it should have read "Katz !is one of our own." Why you couldn't have just said "Katz is not one of our own" is beyond me, but if you're going to use C, use it correctly.
Anyway, I use != and stuff occasionally too, but only when it's useful and makes sense. "Open Source != Free Software" makes sense, since it's saying that the two quantities are not identical. "Katz != one of our own" does not.
It seems most people here are answering questions about 3d rendering in Linux. However, from reading the guy's question, he seems to be asking about 3d workstation graphics (as in real-time while-you-look-at-it display and modelling), not render farms. So references to Titanic are off-topic, since it used a render farm, and most of its boxes didn't even have video cards. This guy seems to want a workstation with SGI-IRIX quality graphics. Unfortunately, such a beast doesn't exist running Linux, and probably won't for a while. We're talking about the 32meg 3d cards here used for serious work, not your voodoo2 that you need to play games.
More companies don't use them because they're only feasible for *really* high-end programs. If somebody has a $3000 auto-CAD program, and their box only does auto-CAD, they may not mind a dongle. However, if i use some $500 program about 1/4 of the time, and another $500 program some of the time, I'm going to run out of ports, and switching dongles constantly when I want to use a different program is going to get really old really fast. Not to mention that if it's a parallel port dongle I have to take it off to use my printer.
Linux can play Quicktime fine. It's just virtually every other format that it has trouble with (MPEG, AVI, etc., since most of the movies out there use proprietary codecs such as Indeo)
Uhh, the new iMac'ish Apple logo sucks. The colored striped logo was good enough for twenty years, and I don't see why it shouldn't be good enough for another twenty. It looks better too.
Many of the dongle based protections systems are really easy to crack. There are a couple howtos on cracking dongle based security. Some of the stupier dongle systems just do a simple hardware check to see if the thing is attached to the system.
Well, that's what this is - a hardware based security mechanism, and one that's obviously not too secure. It checks to see if a mod chip has been installed in the PSX, and if so, refuses to play.
OTOH, some of the systems seem pretty secure. Has anyone ever heard of someone cracking a WIBU dongle? That system encrypts the software and then decrypts it using hardware not software.
I don't know much about dongles, but it would seem possible, at least in theory. Somebody with a lot of hardware knowledge (or info on the specs) would have to reverse-engineer the dongle to determine the encryption mechanism, then write software to decrypt it in software, thus removing the need for the hardware decryption.
Umm, no it doesn't. Half-life looks like crap (if you can even get it to run at all) without hardware 3D acceleration. Until WINE can support some hardware acceleration in the games it's running, it won't be able to run 3D games playably.
Every time L0pht Heavy Industries or Phrack are mentioned here, they are ridiculed as being "crackers." Yet now that they win some awards (with L0phtcrack and nmap) the OSS community suddenly claims them as part of the community. Odd.
Depending on how you count it, I run 2% to 20% GNU software. That is not anywhere near enough to make me let him fuck up the nice "Linux" name.
Well, you also run less than 20% "Linux" software. The Linux kernel makes up an extremely small portion of your operating system, so it's even more ludicrous to call the entire OS "Linux" than it would be to call the entire OS "GNU."
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RMS is a jackass.
I suppose that's your personal opinion. That's not relevant to this discussion.
Every time he opens his mouth he chases the mainstream away from Linux and free software. He looks and smells like a wookie, and totally lacks any sense of professionalism.
Perhaps you miss the point. RMS has a goal of making good Free Software. He does not have a goal of selling such software and getting rich from it. If companies want to use it, that's fine by him, but he's not going to sell out his principles to make a quick buck, which is more than I can say for Mr. Raymond.
After all those years of "free software advocacy" RMS has gotten us nowhere.
Excuse me? "Nowhere"? Do you have really not have any idea of the history of what you're talking about, or are you just a troll?
RMS founded the Free Software Foundation, which started the GNU project. The GNU project is a project to produce a completely Free Operating System. At the moment, it is nearly finished except for the kernel. Until the kernel (HURD) is finished, you can run the rest of the OS with the Linux kernel (a GNU/Linux combination). Without GNU, and hence without RMS, there would be no Linux, as Linus would probably not have decided to undertake the task of writing a kernel if he also had to write the rest of the OS (his own C compiler (there would be no gcc), C library (no glibc), and various other things, such as ls, cat, grep, chmod, etc.)
Then ESR comes along. He understands how the corporate managers think. He can get on the phone with people like Lou Gerstner and talk their language. RMS comes off like some homeless turd preaching about the apocolypse on a street corner.
People like Sam Ockman and ESR brought us the current prosperity that we enjoy. RMS has held us back for YEEEEARS. It has nothing to do with code. It has to do with advocacy.
ESR has repackaged Free Software by removing such objectionable things as "freedom" and repackaging it as Open Source. As such, he's sold the package to business at the expense of selling out the principles and philosophy behind the Free Software movement. This is why Bruce Perens quit the Open Source Initiative - because it's Free Software that matters.
rebuild apps? *gasp*
Sort of like rebuilding during the a.out->ELF switch, eh?
Most likely not. A class-action suit is typically filed by parties directly injured by some company's practices. In this case, it would be filed by those directly injured by Microsoft's (alleged) monopolistic pricing. People affected in such a way would be those who bought Windows, who feel that they paid an unfairly high price for it as a direct result of monopolistic practices. SVLUG users typically do not buy Windows, so they'd have no reason to file suit.
ESR is generally perceived as being a bit too much on the pro-business side of things, while ignoring the Free Software side of things, and personally snubbing RMS several times because RMS is inconvenient when talking to businesses. Selling Open Source is fine, but trying to hide the people that make it work in order to sell more of it isn't.
Making such a graph for the very early years of computing should be relatively simple for those with the right data, since very few companies were actually producing computers. You'd have to get some records from IBM and a few others on how many computers (and of what types) they sold in what years, and that's it. No microcomputers to deal with, just the comparatively easy-to-count mainframes.
I just saw a fairly long (5-10 minutes) interview with Bob Young (RedHat CEO) on Fox News. He did a good job explaining his company and what it does, and agreed with what a lot of us have been saying - they're aiming at servers and enterprise computing, not the desktop, so they're not really competition for Windows95 (as Microsoft has been trying to claim they are). The reporter seemed a bit clueless though about how this whole Open Source deal works. He was confused about how RedHat could make money without controlling the OS, and seemed to think that Bob Young hoped to be the next Bill Gates.
You'll notice that Hemos posted this, not Katz. So you want to get rid of Hemos?
Oh, and those quickies are a waste of time. What does a masturbation device have to do with nerds? Virtual Crack?
So let's get rid of Rob.
And OctoberX just hypes his site.
And Sengan posts political articles.
Hey, let's just get rid of the whole damn place then.
Either that or you could try not reading the articles that don't interest you.
if Katz!=coder (insider==false) & more commentary
Ok, this is the second invalid C syntax I've seen in the replies to this article, and this one's even worse. Something about Katz brings out all the wannabe programmers who pretend to know C.
1) if() requires parenthesis around the expression being evaluated.
2) you need something between coder and the opening parenthesis. You can't just stick another expression there with nothing connecting them.
3) What is a bitwise AND doing in there?
Even accounting for all the syntax errors, I have no idea what you're trying to say. "If katz is not a coder and insider is false and more commentary" perhaps? No matter how I look at it, it still doesn't make any sense.
So who exactly are you?
Rob invited Katz to write for slashdot.
In a vote, the readers of slashdot overwhelmingly voted to keep Katz around.
So tell me again why he does not belong here. If the owner and the audience want him around, why should he leave just because you and a few other vocal Anonymous Cowards personally dislike him?
The slashdot community will not favorably receive anybody, with the possible acception of Rob and Linus. It's not that Katz isn't technical enough, because the /. community flamed RMS, who is more technically sophisticated then any 10 random slashdotters put together. It's not that RMS isn't business-oriented enough, because ESR is flamed all the time. Basically, if it's not Linus, it gets flamed.
No, this site is "News for Nerds." Not "Life, The Universe and Everything."
Do people around here have abnormally short attention spans? Why is it that everybody gets sick of reading and quits before they get to the end of a simple six word slogan? Try:
"News for Nerds. Stuff that Matters."
See that second sentence there? Next time read the entire thing, not just the first half.
Ok, now that I got the invalid C syntax out of the way, I'll take on the rest of it :P
Katz is "one of us" whether or not you want him to be. He may not be one of whatever group you represent, but he's part of this "community" of sorts. Rob invited him to write for slashdot. The users of slashdot voted overwhelmingly to keep him here. So if the owner and the users like Katz, who are you to say he doesn't belong?
Katz != one of our own
That means absolutely nothing. That's "Katz is not equal to one of our own." What does equal have to do with it? "Katz" and "one of our own" are not comparable quantities...Katz would be a subset (or not) of "one of our own," not equal to it.
If, as I assume, you meant "Katz is not one of our own," and wanted to look like you were tech savvy or something by phrasing it in el33t pseudo-C syntax, it should have read "Katz !is one of our own." Why you couldn't have just said "Katz is not one of our own" is beyond me, but if you're going to use C, use it correctly.
Anyway, I use != and stuff occasionally too, but only when it's useful and makes sense. "Open Source != Free Software" makes sense, since it's saying that the two quantities are not identical. "Katz != one of our own" does not.
It seems most people here are answering questions about 3d rendering in Linux. However, from reading the guy's question, he seems to be asking about 3d workstation graphics (as in real-time while-you-look-at-it display and modelling), not render farms. So references to Titanic are off-topic, since it used a render farm, and most of its boxes didn't even have video cards. This guy seems to want a workstation with SGI-IRIX quality graphics. Unfortunately, such a beast doesn't exist running Linux, and probably won't for a while. We're talking about the 32meg 3d cards here used for serious work, not your voodoo2 that you need to play games.
Well then slashdot needs to use the real logo instead of the lame blue case design logo.
More companies don't use them because they're only feasible for *really* high-end programs. If somebody has a $3000 auto-CAD program, and their box only does auto-CAD, they may not mind a dongle. However, if i use some $500 program about 1/4 of the time, and another $500 program some of the time, I'm going to run out of ports, and switching dongles constantly when I want to use a different program is going to get really old really fast. Not to mention that if it's a parallel port dongle I have to take it off to use my printer.
Linux can play Quicktime fine. It's just virtually every other format that it has trouble with (MPEG, AVI, etc., since most of the movies out there use proprietary codecs such as Indeo)
Uhh, the new iMac'ish Apple logo sucks. The colored striped logo was good enough for twenty years, and I don't see why it shouldn't be good enough for another twenty. It looks better too.
Many of the dongle based protections systems are really easy to crack. There are a couple howtos on cracking dongle based security. Some of the stupier dongle systems just do a simple hardware check to see if the thing is attached to the system.
Well, that's what this is - a hardware based security mechanism, and one that's obviously not too secure. It checks to see if a mod chip has been installed in the PSX, and if so, refuses to play.
OTOH, some of the systems seem pretty secure. Has anyone ever heard of someone cracking a WIBU dongle? That system encrypts the software and then decrypts it using hardware not software.
I don't know much about dongles, but it would seem possible, at least in theory. Somebody with a lot of hardware knowledge (or info on the specs) would have to reverse-engineer the dongle to determine the encryption mechanism, then write software to decrypt it in software, thus removing the need for the hardware decryption.
MP3 (Cool let's steal music)
Ahem. That's cool let's buy music or cool let's legally download music.
jeez, talk about obfuscated code...
Umm, no it doesn't. Half-life looks like crap (if you can even get it to run at all) without hardware 3D acceleration. Until WINE can support some hardware acceleration in the games it's running, it won't be able to run 3D games playably.
Every time L0pht Heavy Industries or Phrack are mentioned here, they are ridiculed as being "crackers." Yet now that they win some awards (with L0phtcrack and nmap) the OSS community suddenly claims them as part of the community. Odd.
Linux Bigot: Yeah well take a look at them apples
Micro$haft Zealot: Blender? We have 3D Studio Max and Bryce 3D. Why do I want Blender?
Linux Bigot: Blender is cool.
Micro$haft Zealot: but it sucks compared to Bryce 3D.
Linux Bigot: Oh.
Depending on how you count it, I run 2% to 20% GNU software. That is not anywhere near enough to make me let him fuck up the nice "Linux" name.
Well, you also run less than 20% "Linux" software. The Linux kernel makes up an extremely small portion of your operating system, so it's even more ludicrous to call the entire OS "Linux" than it would be to call the entire OS "GNU."