Actually,l the only screams I've read so far seem to agree with you.:)
It isn't a big deal, agreed. What it is, though, is an interesting contradiction of common sense and law. This isn't hard; I'm sure I could break at least three laws without even standing up, and without touching my computer. So I don't see how it's "Stuff that matters."
Actually, I installed Flash last night on a friend's computer (Fedora 3). It was only a couple clicks, but the catch was it only worked with a privledged user. Firefox didn't handle doing it with the limited user very well at all. Mind you, sudoers hasn't been set up yet on that system, so maybe that's the issue...
Real Player also installed relatively easily, once we switched to using the RPM. Downloaded it with a click, double clicked the download, and a few minutes later all was good.
I have no real complaints, except I thought the Flash install (not sure if it's Macromedia or Mozilla code) could have asked for a password rather than failing with an obscure error.
Shoplifting around here caries a fine up to several hundred thousand dollars (I think it's $500,000), and up to five years of prison, plus a criminal record for life. A criminal record would almost certainly destroy his hope of becoming a doctor.
The civil suit, on the other hand, will probably result in a fine of something less than $100,000 and certainly no jail time or criminal record.
Palm applications typically consist of a single file for ease of use. If you need to document a Palm application, you haven't made it simple enough to use.
Exactly! It's especially bad on an embedded device or a PDA. I don't have screen space for eight copyright notices. Heck, I don't even want to waste that many bytes in my executable.
Actually, it was CSL*Marks. I forget the version. But it's been fixed for over ten years, and every developer (and manager, and even the CEO) has been replaced since then, so it's not worth worrying about.
The old CEO was six kinds of slime. He sent out unformatted floppies once to customers so they'd think it had shipped on time and they'd just gotten bad disks.
I think you're talking advertising clause, the focus of the old four clause vs. "X11" three clause. Unfortunately, even the three clause has a requirement:
2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
It is not really a big deal, unless you're doing something on a small screen. Which I was.
I remember ten years ago, gradebook software calculated grades incorrectly. It was used in thousands of schools.
I was a high school student at the time, doing a little part-time work for a company writing a competitor. We actually discovered this after hand testing our calculations by hand. Our calculations were right. But what other tests could we do? We figured we'd try their numbers and see if we got the same results. We didn't. Surely it was our problem, since we weren't on the market yet? No, it was their problem.
I had a 18% grade swing as a result of pointing this out to my chemistry teacher. She apologized over and over again. We also reporterd it anonymously to the company, which fixed it in their next version. But I discovered last year that as of two years ago my high school was still using the same version of the same flawed program, and it was still generating incorrect grades.
A younger friend of mine pointed this out to the teachers. The response was the same as ten years ago: "Of course it's right, the computer did it."
This is absolutely astonishing. It means that final grades produced by thousands of schools are not according to the criteria specified by the teachers and/or school and/or school district. If they are right, it is only the happiest of coincidences.
Just try and start documenting perl - since there is more than one way to do things, you'll end up giving in to the urge to change code as you document it - so the documentation never gets written, and the code never gets finished.
Now, I'm not a Perl programmer. So maybe there's an element of truth to this. However, every language I have ever used fits this description, and not documenting your code because you might change it sounds like a lack of discipline and an excuse. Unless this was intended to be funny, and all the mods missed it...
There are plenty of good groups on usenet with loyal posters - it's like trying to kill fortran - it'll only happen over dead bodies..
All you programmers here that? Do your part and kill a Fortran programmer today! I've got three in my trunk (they don't take much space if you're willing to stack them creatively.
Those who like it, like it a lot. Enough, say, to find another Usenet feed. It just ain't that big a deal.
At the moment, I'm using the google groups beta. If they'd add reply quoted, I'd probably stick with it. As it is, I'll probably get an account with supernews or something sooner or later...
The problem is not identification, the problem is the DNS resolution system badly needs a patch to eliminate the difference between $41 and $D0B0. Since the former exists, the later shouldn't. Since that probably won't happen, it needs an OS-level patch. Since that probably won't happen, it needs a browser-level patch.
But the lower this fix goes, the better it will be for all of uz.
Personally, the only reason I laugh at psychic phenomena is because it makes me nervous. I don't want it to exist. Yet it's pretty evident that it does, to at least some extent.
I'm glad it's being studied. I thought it was firmly in the realm of crackpots.
I'm not saying it not adversely affect Intel. I'm saying that putting out a whining mress release isn't going to help Intel.
Either Oracle will sway to what everyone else is doing, everyone else will sway to Oracle's scheme, or they'll remain different. The point is that it's the market and consumers who will decide if Oracle's strategy is acceptable, not Intel.
HP and Intel should manage their own business, and leave Oracle to mismanage theirs.
What have we come to that companies write open letters to themselves, using public opinion to try to damage competitors or enhance their own position... and the public eats it up and supports it?
Intel, this is your problem. Deal with it without whining to the public... or you'll look like whiners. It isn't like the wining is going to actually help your case anyway.
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WINE, of course!
Or Crossover Office, if you prefer.
Actually,l the only screams I've read so far seem to agree with you. :)
It isn't a big deal, agreed. What it is, though, is an interesting contradiction of common sense and law. This isn't hard; I'm sure I could break at least three laws without even standing up, and without touching my computer. So I don't see how it's "Stuff that matters."
Actually, I installed Flash last night on a friend's computer (Fedora 3). It was only a couple clicks, but the catch was it only worked with a privledged user. Firefox didn't handle doing it with the limited user very well at all. Mind you, sudoers hasn't been set up yet on that system, so maybe that's the issue...
Real Player also installed relatively easily, once we switched to using the RPM. Downloaded it with a click, double clicked the download, and a few minutes later all was good.
I have no real complaints, except I thought the Flash install (not sure if it's Macromedia or Mozilla code) could have asked for a password rather than failing with an obscure error.
Is it okay if I mirror that?
I don't know. Is Ride of the Valkyries really long enough for all of IBM's lawyers to get in to the courtroom?
No no, YOU have it backwards! :) This isn't about preventing anything, it's just about reporting it!
The real solution? All packets with the evil bit set should be forwarded to the police, rather than to the person who requested them.
(Can't wait to see how long it takes their servers to crash...)
Shoplifting around here caries a fine up to several hundred thousand dollars (I think it's $500,000), and up to five years of prison, plus a criminal record for life. A criminal record would almost certainly destroy his hope of becoming a doctor.
The civil suit, on the other hand, will probably result in a fine of something less than $100,000 and certainly no jail time or criminal record.
Palm applications typically consist of a single file for ease of use. If you need to document a Palm application, you haven't made it simple enough to use.
Exactly! It's especially bad on an embedded device or a PDA. I don't have screen space for eight copyright notices. Heck, I don't even want to waste that many bytes in my executable.
Actually, it was CSL*Marks. I forget the version. But it's been fixed for over ten years, and every developer (and manager, and even the CEO) has been replaced since then, so it's not worth worrying about.
The old CEO was six kinds of slime. He sent out unformatted floppies once to customers so they'd think it had shipped on time and they'd just gotten bad disks.
I think you're talking advertising clause, the focus of the old four clause vs. "X11" three clause. Unfortunately, even the three clause has a requirement:
2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
It is not really a big deal, unless you're doing something on a small screen. Which I was.
I remember ten years ago, gradebook software calculated grades incorrectly. It was used in thousands of schools.
I was a high school student at the time, doing a little part-time work for a company writing a competitor. We actually discovered this after hand testing our calculations by hand. Our calculations were right. But what other tests could we do? We figured we'd try their numbers and see if we got the same results. We didn't. Surely it was our problem, since we weren't on the market yet? No, it was their problem.
I had a 18% grade swing as a result of pointing this out to my chemistry teacher. She apologized over and over again. We also reporterd it anonymously to the company, which fixed it in their next version. But I discovered last year that as of two years ago my high school was still using the same version of the same flawed program, and it was still generating incorrect grades.
A younger friend of mine pointed this out to the teachers. The response was the same as ten years ago: "Of course it's right, the computer did it."
This is absolutely astonishing. It means that final grades produced by thousands of schools are not according to the criteria specified by the teachers and/or school and/or school district. If they are right, it is only the happiest of coincidences.
BSD isn't that great an example of a truly free license, as it requires credit. The BOOST license is a bit better for that.
I think you've got a very good list, though.
I'm glad you were able to understand that. Re-reading my post, it seemed a bit disjointed. :)
Just try and start documenting perl - since there is more than one way to do things, you'll end up giving in to the urge to change code as you document it - so the documentation never gets written, and the code never gets finished.
Now, I'm not a Perl programmer. So maybe there's an element of truth to this. However, every language I have ever used fits this description, and not documenting your code because you might change it sounds like a lack of discipline and an excuse. Unless this was intended to be funny, and all the mods missed it...
Beautiful, sir! :)
There are plenty of good groups on usenet with loyal posters - it's like trying to kill fortran - it'll only happen over dead bodies..
All you programmers here that? Do your part and kill a Fortran programmer today! I've got three in my trunk (they don't take much space if you're willing to stack them creatively.
Thank you kindly -- that works perfectly! I thought I'd done it once, but I never figured out how. :)
Those who like it, like it a lot. Enough, say, to find another Usenet feed. It just ain't that big a deal.
At the moment, I'm using the google groups beta. If they'd add reply quoted, I'd probably stick with it. As it is, I'll probably get an account with supernews or something sooner or later...
Good old Microsoft. Embrace, extend, assimilate and crush. :)
The problem is not identification, the problem is the DNS resolution system badly needs a patch to eliminate the difference between $41 and $D0B0. Since the former exists, the later shouldn't. Since that probably won't happen, it needs an OS-level patch. Since that probably won't happen, it needs a browser-level patch.
But the lower this fix goes, the better it will be for all of uz.
Personally, the only reason I laugh at psychic phenomena is because it makes me nervous. I don't want it to exist. Yet it's pretty evident that it does, to at least some extent.
I'm glad it's being studied. I thought it was firmly in the realm of crackpots.
I'm not saying it not adversely affect Intel. I'm saying that putting out a whining mress release isn't going to help Intel.
Either Oracle will sway to what everyone else is doing, everyone else will sway to Oracle's scheme, or they'll remain different. The point is that it's the market and consumers who will decide if Oracle's strategy is acceptable, not Intel.
HP and Intel should manage their own business, and leave Oracle to mismanage theirs.
What have we come to that companies write open letters to themselves, using public opinion to try to damage competitors or enhance their own position... and the public eats it up and supports it?
Intel, this is your problem. Deal with it without whining to the public... or you'll look like whiners. It isn't like the wining is going to actually help your case anyway.
Woosh. ;)