The different revisions of the Official Ubuntu Book I worked on I tried several times to use OpenOffice (the files were.doc files) and it was an epic failure. Espeically with tracking and comments, etc.
I used Word for everything and it works great.
Don't know why I would try to have the document as one single file, each file would be a separate chapter for me.
+1 to poster, incredible flamebait in the summary. did you actually watch the video? Everyone I know who has seen it has laughed a lot and thought it was a great commercial. Also they find it interesting the lack of mention about MS.
Best parts: Bill reading the coding book to the kid as a bedtime story.
Other great part was the grandma and all of her lines.
I used to dual boot ubuntu and vista on my Dell and gave up on it. Vista was working quite well and I need my disk space that ubuntu was taking up. Never regretted that.
Also VMWare runs better under Vista then Ubuntu does. VMs run faster under it.
Really? Linux on the laptop is growing? Just based on non scientific study but i'm in a lot of airports across the United States. I can count on the one hand the laptops I've seen that are running Linux this year, 2. I do see a growing a number of Macs, but I am hearing more and more of the Vista startup sound on Laptops as the year goes on.
If this growth in Linux laptops are growing, I haven't seen them
Seriously the amount of documents on the web should help determine if a format is used or not? WOw what stupid thinking. How many of these documents can't be on the web, but are instead stored on corporate file servers and corporate intranets around the world? Seriously folks, this is perhaps the dumbest evidence for whether a format is succeedin or not that I've heard of
Or think Altiris Software Virtualization Services, http://getsvs.com/ which is free for personal use. I have virtualized all of my applications on my wife's computer and she doesn't realize it. Also works great for running both Office 2003 and Office 2007.
I use SVS on my work laptop, virtualize all my non-work related things and deactivate them when I go to work. When I leave work, I deactivate my work related apps.
Great product...
And how is that different from Google's goal to have every bit of the internet go through its engines? When Google wants every advertising dollar to go through one of its services, including radio and print ads.
People hate Microsoft for petty reasons. Something went wrong on a computer they were doing something important on and it left a bad taste, now they read sites like this that spew Microsoft hate and that's all they get.
And before you say I'm just a MS fanboy, I've been working w/ Linux and OSS for over 10 years and contribute regulary.
One of the greatest products that I have used for virtualization is SVS by Altiris (www.svsdownloads.com) which is free for personal use. The biggest difference between VM Ware and MS's offering is that it is for the software level and not the operating system level.
The best part about SVS is the ability to run mulitple version of the same product at thee same time. For example Office 97 and Office 2003 if you have specific work applications. Or the beta of Firefox along with the released version of Firefox without corrupting anything. Its a great product.
Also don't forget for the first time CDs are available through shipit.kubuntu.org. Note the difference, if you want Kubuntu specific CDs shipped free of charge you must go to ship.kubntu.org not shipit.ubuntu.com
Was a little shocked to see a post like this here, but am glad. Since when did violating the law and violating an oath suddenly become the patriotic thing to do? These people are not heroes, they shouldn't be admired because they are saving the country from an evil. These people are violating thier security clearance on purpose because they don't agree with the current administration's policies. I think the whole problem we have going on in this country is the amount of disdain both sides of the political spectrum have for each other. The country is going downhill quickly due to nothing more then hate. Conservatives hating liberals and liberals hating conservatives. I think there are bigger problems to solve then the government checking to see who called who. Solve the illegal immigrant problem first, or a novel idea, catch bin Laden.
I wonder how much hype actually was Microsoft's? I know Scoble said a bunch of stuff on his blog and channel9 on what it would not be, how many other news sites went balistic and pounced all over this? Was there just an over reaction across the board that is now being blamed on Microsoft or were those sites just paid by MS to boots "hype." Nothing ever lives up to the hype.
Count me in as well. I am a network admin, I have a wireless network running in my house to communicate to my home servers. However broadband is not for me due to cost. My wife and I are currently working to pay off both of our cars and our school debt before we have children. Thus we have dial-up. I have had dial-up since I started paying for it myself. My parents have broadband, but they are retired and spend a lot of time on the internet emailing and chatting with family members. However we just don't want to pay the $50/month. When the cost comes down to what I can pay for dial-up or close, then I will switch. I cna't use DSL cause the phone lines in the house are extremly terrible and singal drops on the phone, let alone on DSL.
I use a combination of them as well to run Linux on my windows box. If you use qemu to create the image file in vmware format you can then setup any vmplayer file to run any operating system. Currently I have the following image files, Ubuntu (Breezy), Ubuntu (Dapper), Windows 2003 Server, Debian, and BSD. All files were created first in qemu then I installed through VMPlayer. Runs as well as an official VM Player file available for download. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VMwarePlayerAndQemu for more information.
Best part about this is that the author of the story wrote a book that details it that will be released soon. The book is titled: STATE OF WAR: The Secret History of the CIA and the Bush Administration
Interesting that the NY Times article doesn't mention anything about Risen's upcoming book that discuss this story and the other stories he will be releasing thru the venue of the New York Times. See http://www.simonsays.com/content/book.cfm?sid=33&p id=518822 for the book
I would like to echo this posters view of things. The other problem is that the great "community" is sometimes made of mailing groups where the only answers to people trying to learn and user the software is RTFM or some other pissy response. I have been on some mailing lists where heaven help us if you try to ask a question because as soon as you do people are going to respond "Well that's part of being a compentent systems admin" or "Did you read the manual?" Or my favorite, the link to how to post intellegent questions.
While I know some people are asking the same question over and over again (which I have no problem being rude to) you have to consider the person asking the question may not 1. speak the same language as you do natively or 2. worked on the program since it was first released and hangs out and drinks beer with the dude who wrote the software.
Also documentation is terrible for a lot of projects. When you go to look for a manual and the only thing you can find is a wiki that has either been spammed to hell and back or hasn't been updated for the current version or lastely is not organized in any form or shape that could possibly make sense to anyone besides the person who posted it.
I can see why it would take him two weeks to get this project setup. Though I do blame them for not getting back to Red Hat when asked.
Why should we give it a few months. Imagine if someone tried to write the above about a Microsoft product. Imagine what it would be modded to and also the amount of replies to it.
Ah but I forgot this was Google we are talking about so a different standard applies.
Remember the articles about start.com and the flames about how X didn't work or Y didn't look good in Z browser. Or how the site failed the ACID or whatever else people whined about. The site was still in beta but yet people expected 3 people from MS to have a fully working product in the Beta stage.
Actually they can't do better. Two guys doing an intern job at MS have created this page. Watch the video and learn what is going on here. Read thier web blog to see what and how things work.
Also this is very old news. I have been using this since way before the video came out. Channel9 has been full of discussion and even included a survey about homepages and a portion of the responses were about start.com.
Never, that's right there will never be a study that either side of the story will say "Yes this is a totally independent study."
How would this mythical company perform thier study? How would you enforce total independence? At what point do you declare the person(s) who performs the study to be unbiased?
If you look hard enough and follow the money you will always find some form of dirt
Ok so you are saying that someone without computer skills can run any form of *nix or *bsd? I doubt that.
I would rather bet money on someone w/o a lot technical skills keeping their Windows box up and connected to the internet then having the same person connect a *nix box to the internet and make sure everything was working.
Good luck getting grandma to connect w/o help from you to "AOL" which is also known to her as the Internet.
I would say based on personal observation that a large majority of that 12.5% either has a dish or cable service. Try it next you are in one of the poorer parts of town or way out in the sticks. People "have" to have thier tv and have all of thier channels.
Notice next time you are way out in the sticks that even double wide trailer people have dishes that are bigger and cost more then the double wide does
I am one of those people that don't have high speed internet or cable because I choose to live that way. I still have dial up access and I watch tv w/ an anttena on a non-HDTV ready TV.
One simple reason is budget. My wife and I are choosing to pay our bills instead of incure more bills/debt. We pay extra for our mortgage, for our school loans and have the needed two months of savings for an emergency fund.
I find the only reasons I watch TV are Simpsons and sports. Football and some baseball along w/ Nascar are covered by the network. I don't need 30 different sports games and 90% the big game that i want to watch is in fact on one of the networks that I get.
There is nothing wrong w/ anyone watching television. Moderation is the key and being !cable helps to encourage it.
I can't believe this will happen w/ the networks crying about how no one watches them anyways, they would want to loose the 12%.
Cable modem + cable tv will run $80+, money I can spend eating out or doing other activities.
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The different revisions of the Official Ubuntu Book I worked on I tried several times to use OpenOffice (the files were .doc files) and it was an epic failure. Espeically with tracking and comments, etc.
I used Word for everything and it works great.
Don't know why I would try to have the document as one single file, each file would be a separate chapter for me.
+1 to poster, incredible flamebait in the summary. did you actually watch the video? Everyone I know who has seen it has laughed a lot and thought it was a great commercial. Also they find it interesting the lack of mention about MS. Best parts: Bill reading the coding book to the kid as a bedtime story. Other great part was the grandma and all of her lines.
really? That's great to hear. In Atlanta airport right now and no linux laptops that i've seen
I used to dual boot ubuntu and vista on my Dell and gave up on it. Vista was working quite well and I need my disk space that ubuntu was taking up. Never regretted that. Also VMWare runs better under Vista then Ubuntu does. VMs run faster under it.
Really? Linux on the laptop is growing? Just based on non scientific study but i'm in a lot of airports across the United States. I can count on the one hand the laptops I've seen that are running Linux this year, 2. I do see a growing a number of Macs, but I am hearing more and more of the Vista startup sound on Laptops as the year goes on.
If this growth in Linux laptops are growing, I haven't seen them
Seriously the amount of documents on the web should help determine if a format is used or not? WOw what stupid thinking. How many of these documents can't be on the web, but are instead stored on corporate file servers and corporate intranets around the world? Seriously folks, this is perhaps the dumbest evidence for whether a format is succeedin or not that I've heard of
Or think Altiris Software Virtualization Services, http://getsvs.com/ which is free for personal use. I have virtualized all of my applications on my wife's computer and she doesn't realize it. Also works great for running both Office 2003 and Office 2007. I use SVS on my work laptop, virtualize all my non-work related things and deactivate them when I go to work. When I leave work, I deactivate my work related apps. Great product...
And how is that different from Google's goal to have every bit of the internet go through its engines? When Google wants every advertising dollar to go through one of its services, including radio and print ads. People hate Microsoft for petty reasons. Something went wrong on a computer they were doing something important on and it left a bad taste, now they read sites like this that spew Microsoft hate and that's all they get. And before you say I'm just a MS fanboy, I've been working w/ Linux and OSS for over 10 years and contribute regulary.
The best part about SVS is the ability to run mulitple version of the same product at thee same time. For example Office 97 and Office 2003 if you have specific work applications. Or the beta of Firefox along with the released version of Firefox without corrupting anything. Its a great product.
Also don't forget for the first time CDs are available through shipit.kubuntu.org. Note the difference, if you want Kubuntu specific CDs shipped free of charge you must go to ship.kubntu.org not shipit.ubuntu.com
Was a little shocked to see a post like this here, but am glad. Since when did violating the law and violating an oath suddenly become the patriotic thing to do? These people are not heroes, they shouldn't be admired because they are saving the country from an evil. These people are violating thier security clearance on purpose because they don't agree with the current administration's policies. I think the whole problem we have going on in this country is the amount of disdain both sides of the political spectrum have for each other. The country is going downhill quickly due to nothing more then hate. Conservatives hating liberals and liberals hating conservatives. I think there are bigger problems to solve then the government checking to see who called who. Solve the illegal immigrant problem first, or a novel idea, catch bin Laden.
I was waiting for this to be Bush's fault somehow. Waiting to read comments blaming him. Until I finished reading the headline.
Easy Ubuntu is a lot better and should be used instead. Everyone is discouraged from using Automatix. Mod this parent up
I wonder how much hype actually was Microsoft's? I know Scoble said a bunch of stuff on his blog and channel9 on what it would not be, how many other news sites went balistic and pounced all over this? Was there just an over reaction across the board that is now being blamed on Microsoft or were those sites just paid by MS to boots "hype." Nothing ever lives up to the hype.
Count me in as well. I am a network admin, I have a wireless network running in my house to communicate to my home servers. However broadband is not for me due to cost. My wife and I are currently working to pay off both of our cars and our school debt before we have children. Thus we have dial-up. I have had dial-up since I started paying for it myself. My parents have broadband, but they are retired and spend a lot of time on the internet emailing and chatting with family members. However we just don't want to pay the $50/month. When the cost comes down to what I can pay for dial-up or close, then I will switch. I cna't use DSL cause the phone lines in the house are extremly terrible and singal drops on the phone, let alone on DSL.
I use a combination of them as well to run Linux on my windows box. If you use qemu to create the image file in vmware format you can then setup any vmplayer file to run any operating system. Currently I have the following image files, Ubuntu (Breezy), Ubuntu (Dapper), Windows 2003 Server, Debian, and BSD. All files were created first in qemu then I installed through VMPlayer. Runs as well as an official VM Player file available for download. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VMwarePlayerAndQemu for more information.
Best part about this is that the author of the story wrote a book that details it that will be released soon. The book is titled: STATE OF WAR: The Secret History of the CIA and the Bush Administration
p id=518822 for the book
Interesting that the NY Times article doesn't mention anything about Risen's upcoming book that discuss this story and the other stories he will be releasing thru the venue of the New York Times. See http://www.simonsays.com/content/book.cfm?sid=33&
Would be interested if your friend would try Kubuntu 5.10. It is a lot better then the 5.04 release.
While I know some people are asking the same question over and over again (which I have no problem being rude to) you have to consider the person asking the question may not 1. speak the same language as you do natively or 2. worked on the program since it was first released and hangs out and drinks beer with the dude who wrote the software.
Also documentation is terrible for a lot of projects. When you go to look for a manual and the only thing you can find is a wiki that has either been spammed to hell and back or hasn't been updated for the current version or lastely is not organized in any form or shape that could possibly make sense to anyone besides the person who posted it. I can see why it would take him two weeks to get this project setup. Though I do blame them for not getting back to Red Hat when asked.
Ah but I forgot this was Google we are talking about so a different standard applies.
Remember the articles about start.com and the flames about how X didn't work or Y didn't look good in Z browser. Or how the site failed the ACID or whatever else people whined about. The site was still in beta but yet people expected 3 people from MS to have a fully working product in the Beta stage.
Also this is very old news. I have been using this since way before the video came out. Channel9 has been full of discussion and even included a survey about homepages and a portion of the responses were about start.com.
Editors get w/ it
How would this mythical company perform thier study? How would you enforce total independence? At what point do you declare the person(s) who performs the study to be unbiased?
If you look hard enough and follow the money you will always find some form of dirt
I would rather bet money on someone w/o a lot technical skills keeping their Windows box up and connected to the internet then having the same person connect a *nix box to the internet and make sure everything was working.
Good luck getting grandma to connect w/o help from you to "AOL" which is also known to her as the Internet.
Notice next time you are way out in the sticks that even double wide trailer people have dishes that are bigger and cost more then the double wide does
One simple reason is budget. My wife and I are choosing to pay our bills instead of incure more bills/debt. We pay extra for our mortgage, for our school loans and have the needed two months of savings for an emergency fund.
I find the only reasons I watch TV are Simpsons and sports. Football and some baseball along w/ Nascar are covered by the network. I don't need 30 different sports games and 90% the big game that i want to watch is in fact on one of the networks that I get.
There is nothing wrong w/ anyone watching television. Moderation is the key and being !cable helps to encourage it.
I can't believe this will happen w/ the networks crying about how no one watches them anyways, they would want to loose the 12%.
Cable modem + cable tv will run $80+, money I can spend eating out or doing other activities.
Besides how did they come up w/ this magical 12%