>I would much rather pay $50 (one time and maybe more $) for a game that is ported and I know that 75% of time it is going to run out of the box.
Geez, if it's a native port it damn well better work better than 75% out of the box. That aside, show me the native Linux ports of Everquest, Diablo II and Half-Life (The games that *I* want to play) and I'll be happy to play them under Linux.
If you think Transgaming is such a bad deal then by all means don't subscribe. But if you think $15 to open up a whole library of games for Linux is a rotten deal then I have to question your judgement.
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You can keep both version on your system if you like. Installing Winex3 doesn't overwrite Winex 2.2.1.
>You might think it's no big deal to look it up, but that requires that the game actually be released and that somebody has actually tested it. That sucks if your plan is to pre-purchase a highly-anticipated game.
It's not only no big deal it's total common sense to look it up before buying. In fact the imagination boggles at the idea that you wouldn't. You're seriously going to pre-purchase some brand new game having *no* idea whatsoever if you'll be able to run it under WineX?
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Everquest plays flawlessly on my system, no errors, no problems, no glitches, no hiccups, no crashes. Do I care that it's running at 50 fps instead of 75 or 80? Nope.
If by "interesting" you mean filled with untruths, innaccuracies and distortions used as justification for a boycott, then yes it's interesting.
"* TransGaming writes incredibly enthusiastic pieces of propaganda which are mostly discussing software they did not write. The LGPL wine (the original codebase) has been developed for 9+ years, but TransGaming forked their version very recently, and does not contribute code back."
Not true
"# TransGaming has consistently claimed that their approach is superior to native porting in every manner."
I've *never* seen that claim made.
"# TransGaming once promised to give back code to what was Wine,"
TG has given code back.
"# TransGaming encourages the misconception that their product is not an emulator, despite the fact that the founder of the Wine project refers to it as such. In order to replace the term "emulation", they refer to WineX as a "portability technology", stretching definitions of both "portability" and "technology". If TransGaming really wishes to avoid the term "emulation", they should replace it with a phrase that actually reflects what WineX does, such as "compatibility layer".
WINE is not an emulator, and besides that, how is what term TG uses to describe WineX a reason for boycotting?!
"# TransGaming has willingly stripped out all methods of debugging the Wine source base in their packaged releases, greatly slowing down the process of fixing bugs."
Not true.
"# Support for games varies wildly between releases, and even their vaunted "DirectX 8.0 support" is already one rev behind and about to be a second rev behind. It still doesn't provide access to all the nice features that the cards, DirectX, and the games support."
Of course it varies between release, mostly better. And again how is this any reason for a boycott?
"# TransGaming promises much, yet delivers little.. . Still, there are many problems with the Half-Life emulation. The most notable of these problems is that the menus do not work, causing a significant drop in user-friendliness."
TG mostly delivers exactly what they promise. The menus in Half-Life don't render exactly correctly but they work just fine.
"# These same Counter-Strike players couldn't play online for some time. Valve had implemented new anti-cheating software which detected Wine users as cheaters."
And TG quickly worked with Valve to have WineX gamers recognized as legitimate clients. Problem solved and bravo for TG, how is this an arguement for a boycott?
> Yes, a perfect WineX will not convince developers to start developing for Linux. But, it if is cheaply or freely availible, they may be convinced to load up a workstation with WineX, and make sure Linux+WineX can run the game through development.
Many ages ago when 8/16 bit computers ruled the earth Macintosh developers would test thier programs on Atari STs running one of the available Mac emulators as a compatability test.
Yes and no. Yes, I was running Linux but because I couldn't run EQ I still spent most of my time in Windows (dual booting was just too much of a pain). Once EQ began to work I switched completely and haven't gone back.
I don't think WineX by itself will convince ordinary Windows users to switch. It will however help convince those already interested in switching that Linux is a viable option.
>But for Joe SixPack, who doesn't have a single gaming magazine subscription, it doesn't matter if they have Hoyle Solitaire, Spider Solitaire or PySol, just so long as it works.
Then that Joe SixPack isn't a gamer at all. He's probably not really interested in games.
If he'a a gamer, he'll have certain commercial games that he wants to run. If those games don't work undr Linux he won't use it. It doesn't matter how many card games it plays if he wants to run StarCraft.
>Phoenix is, at the very least, as stable as Mozilla
Not unless they've fixed tabbed browsing in a newer release than the one I'm using it isn't. I can absolutely guarantee a quick crash if I try to browse in tabbed view under pheonix.
Unfortunately KHTML dosen't seem to render as accurately as Gecko. A friend of mine was working on a page on her Mac and was distressed that various items didn't line up correctly. I checked the page in Mozilla and it looked fine, checked it in Konqurer and it was misaligned just like in Safari, checked it in IE (under cxoffice) and Pheonix and things lined up perfectly.
Seems more like it's a guy who is too weak willed to maintain control over his own life and wants to foist the responsibility off on someone else. Anyone who really needs a watchdog to natter at them about what websites they visit is in need of a lot more than religion.
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An entirely accurate statement as many minority voters were cleansed from voter rolls in that election.
>From what I've read of Palast, his perception about the motives of the Bush administration couldn't be more off-base.
I think he's spot-on.
Geez, if it's a native port it damn well better work better than 75% out of the box. That aside, show me the native Linux ports of Everquest, Diablo II and Half-Life (The games that *I* want to play) and I'll be happy to play them under Linux.
If you think Transgaming is such a bad deal then by all means don't subscribe. But if you think $15 to open up a whole library of games for Linux is a rotten deal then I have to question your judgement.
You can keep both version on your system if you like. Installing Winex3 doesn't overwrite Winex 2.2.1.
It's not only no big deal it's total common sense to look it up before buying. In fact the imagination boggles at the idea that you wouldn't. You're seriously going to pre-purchase some brand new game having *no* idea whatsoever if you'll be able to run it under WineX?
Everquest plays flawlessly on my system, no errors, no problems, no glitches, no hiccups, no crashes. Do I care that it's running at 50 fps instead of 75 or 80? Nope.
Then you can't afford to buy games to play or even blank CDs to pirate them with.
"* TransGaming writes incredibly enthusiastic pieces of propaganda which are mostly discussing software they did not write. The LGPL wine (the original codebase) has been developed for 9+ years, but TransGaming forked their version very recently, and does not contribute code back."
Not true
"# TransGaming has consistently claimed that their approach is superior to native porting in every manner."
I've *never* seen that claim made.
"# TransGaming once promised to give back code to what was Wine,"
TG has given code back.
"# TransGaming encourages the misconception that their product is not an emulator, despite the fact that the founder of the Wine project refers to it as such. In order to replace the term "emulation", they refer to WineX as a "portability technology", stretching definitions of both "portability" and "technology". If TransGaming really wishes to avoid the term "emulation", they should replace it with a phrase that actually reflects what WineX does, such as "compatibility layer".
WINE is not an emulator, and besides that, how is what term TG uses to describe WineX a reason for boycotting?!
"# TransGaming has willingly stripped out all methods of debugging the Wine source base in their packaged releases, greatly slowing down the process of fixing bugs."
Not true.
"# Support for games varies wildly between releases, and even their vaunted "DirectX 8.0 support" is already one rev behind and about to be a second rev behind. It still doesn't provide access to all the nice features that the cards, DirectX, and the games support."
Of course it varies between release, mostly better. And again how is this any reason for a boycott?
"# TransGaming promises much, yet delivers little.. . Still, there are many problems with the Half-Life emulation. The most notable of these problems is that the menus do not work, causing a significant drop in user-friendliness."
TG mostly delivers exactly what they promise. The menus in Half-Life don't render exactly correctly but they work just fine.
"# These same Counter-Strike players couldn't play online for some time. Valve had implemented new anti-cheating software which detected Wine users as cheaters."
And TG quickly worked with Valve to have WineX gamers recognized as legitimate clients. Problem solved and bravo for TG, how is this an arguement for a boycott?
Many ages ago when 8/16 bit computers ruled the earth Macintosh developers would test thier programs on Atari STs running one of the available Mac emulators as a compatability test.
Yes, isn't it great how those non-WineX games are just automagically playable without installing and configuring them?
>I have my mouse over the X of my browser window so I can close it any second now.
Thanks for the warning. I just used the X on my browser window on your article.
Yes and no. Yes, I was running Linux but because I couldn't run EQ I still spent most of my time in Windows (dual booting was just too much of a pain). Once EQ began to work I switched completely and haven't gone back.
I don't think WineX by itself will convince ordinary Windows users to switch. It will however help convince those already interested in switching that Linux is a viable option.
Not all games worth playing have direct linux ports.
They did, but Chicken & Egg evaded Loki's tackle and ran in for a touchdown.
Then that Joe SixPack isn't a gamer at all. He's probably not really interested in games.
If he'a a gamer, he'll have certain commercial games that he wants to run. If those games don't work undr Linux he won't use it. It doesn't matter how many card games it plays if he wants to run StarCraft.
Everquest under WineX3
Bugs = 0
Crashes = 0
Frustration = 0
Happy Linux user running EQ = Me!
>(Don't like a game? Set it to -2, take that everquest!). Pssst . . . EQ runs great under 3.0-final, even better than 2.2.1. :)
>Phoenix is, at the very least, as stable as Mozilla Not unless they've fixed tabbed browsing in a newer release than the one I'm using it isn't. I can absolutely guarantee a quick crash if I try to browse in tabbed view under pheonix.
Unfortunately KHTML dosen't seem to render as accurately as Gecko. A friend of mine was working on a page on her Mac and was distressed that various items didn't line up correctly. I checked the page in Mozilla and it looked fine, checked it in Konqurer and it was misaligned just like in Safari, checked it in IE (under cxoffice) and Pheonix and things lined up perfectly.
Then you want Xandros. I was able to connect to an HP printer connected to a windows machine on the network, and print. A first for me with Linux.
No need to put cheat in quotes. ShowEQ is an absolute and total cheat and anyone caught using it will be quickly and justifiably banned.
I thinking it's a good thing for Transgaming's WineX. Having a stable DX version to work toward has to be a boon.
Seems more like it's a guy who is too weak willed to maintain control over his own life and wants to foist the responsibility off on someone else. Anyone who really needs a watchdog to natter at them about what websites they visit is in need of a lot more than religion.
How did you get it to run? It requires that you run "GTA Settings" first and unfortunately "GTA Settings" fails to run.
I've tried it, didn't dislike it exactly . But it's really 'just another distro'.
> I think that Gentoo is the ultimate distro for Newbies.
Oh dear God, come on. Gentoo is the very *last* distro you point a newbie toward. Let's deal with the real world here.
Gentoo is *not* easy by any stretch of the imagination. Is it a great distro? Likely. But easy? Not in this universe.