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First Look At SuSE Linux 8.2
TheMadPenguin writes "Once again I find myself checking out the newest SuSE release, and to tell you the truth, I really enjoy it. My personal computer is running Slackware (yes, I upgraded to 9.0 immediately), and I wouldn't trade it for any other distribution in the world, but I've got to say is that SuSE is still at the top of their game. When you look at all the desktop distros out there such as Mandrake, Lycoris, and Red Hat, they all really have their endearing factors, but they all are lacking in one way or another.
Check out the entire review at MadPenguin.org. Complete with screenshots :)"
It's funny how all dists seem to come with new versions at the same time. Conspiracy? Aliens? Illuminati? Flesh eating spiders from mars? Thermonuclear sharks with lasers attatched to their heads?
GAAH! MY PRINTER IS ON FIRE!!! PUT IT OUT! PUT IT OUT!
"Once I installed the current 1.0-4191 video drivers" From what I have experienced with them. They are a bit (massive lag impulses) slow with 2d. I think it is because nVidia is developing their own 2d renderer or something.
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And it's the site of the submitter. His hoster will probably have a word with him. Ruin your day. Submit a story to Slashdot.
This is not to say that SuSE is perfect, because it's not. It has it's irritations just like any other OS, but they are minimal. More on that later... let's get on with it.
Joe Eckert at SuSE, as always, rushed a copy of their newest release to us. I finished up my work, brewed a fresh pot of coffee, and sat down with our new found treasure. It was just like Christmas. No other distro really gets me this excited, except for maybe Slackware
The test machine used is a clone we built with the following specs:
The nice part about a machine like this is that we usually don't run into too many compatibility issues. In a way I prefer this, but it would be nice to have some really interesting parts to test with, but our budget doesn't permit it at this time. Donations are welcome :)
Installation
If you've ever installed SuSE Linux before, the installation routine has not changed much at all. If you haven't, let me explain the procedure briefly for you. SuSE has always had a great installer, though it can be a bit cumbersome due to the amount of user input it requires... compared to other distros in its class. For instance, Ark Linux requires the end user to answer only a few questions before proceding. Red Hat and Mandrake ask a few more. Slackware asks more, but is for a more experienced user. SuSE stops at every step of the way and asks about configuration. I'm not really saying this is bad, because it isn't, but it's not for the impatient. The nice part about it is that when setup is complete, you will have a running system that really doesn't require any more setup. Once the OS is up and running, you can immediately begin working (or playing, depending on the situation).
The first thing I noticed when the installer started was that it was using antialiased fonts and the Keramik theme. Nice touch! Compared to their previous versions, this is a welcome change. Most people view this as purely eye candy, but I tend to think of it differently. I see it as less of a strain on your eyes to read the text presented to you. It also looks more appealing to new users. Those of us who have used Linux extensively have grown somewhat used to looking at jagged fonts over the years, but to a new user (coming from Windows or Mac), this is an immediate turn off. My hat's off to SuSE for realizing the importance of first impressions.
The next thing that stood out, other than flawless hardware detection and my timezone was actually correct, was that GNOME was not selected by default in the software list. Well, what about all my apps that require the GNOME/GTK libraries? No problem. I did a search on some of the libraries necessary for operation of traditional GNOME/GTK apps and they were all preselected. Nice touch. This goes a long way with me. For the diehard GNOME users out there, it is still an option. Don't worry. I used to be a GNOME user, but tried KDE 3.1 when it came out and was immediately a convert. SuSE has always placed more emphasis on the KDE environment, so this was not surprising at all.
I made some custom selections to try and break dependencies,
Check out the review (Both Real/WMF format available) Here on CNet News.com.
===> An eye for an eye makes everyone blind - MG
Distro Release: First Look At SuSE Linux 8.2
:) Hey, I'm the first guy to check out all the new toys, and I don't miss a chance to play.
:)
(Posted on Friday, March 28 @ 20:13:51 EST )
Once again I find myself checking out the newest SuSE release, and to tell you the truth, I really enjoy it. My personal computer is running Slackware (yes, I upgraded to 9.0 immediately), and I wouldn't trade it for any other distribution in the world, but I've got to say is that SuSE is still at the top of their game. When you look at all the desktop distros out there such as Mandrake, Lycoris, and Red Hat, they all really have their endearing factors, but they all are lacking in one way or another.
This is not to say that SuSE is perfect, because it's not. It has it's irritations just like any other OS, but they are minimal. More on that later... let's get on with it.
Joe Eckert at SuSE, as always, rushed a copy of their newest release to us. I finished up my work, brewed a fresh pot of coffee, and sat down with our new found treasure. It was just like Christmas. No other distro really gets me this excited, except for maybe Slackware
The test machine used is a clone we built with the following specs:
* Abit KG7-RAID mainboard
* AMD Athlon XP 1600+ CPU
* 512MB RAM
* LG 40x CD/RW
* SoundBlaster Live! Platinum 5.1 w/ Live!Drive
* 3Com 905C NIC
* 60GB HDD
* 128MB MSI NVIDIA GeForce4 MX440 AGP Video
* 256MB USB Pen Drive
The nice part about a machine like this is that we usually don't run into too many compatibility issues. In a way I prefer this, but it would be nice to have some really interesting parts to test with, but our budget doesn't permit it at this time. Donations are welcome
Installation
If you've ever installed SuSE Linux before, the installation routine has not changed much at all. If you haven't, let me explain the procedure briefly for you. SuSE has always had a great installer, though it can be a bit cumbersome due to the amount of user input it requires... compared to other distros in its class. For instance, Ark Linux requires the end user to answer only a few questions before proceding. Red Hat and Mandrake ask a few more. Slackware asks more, but is for a more experienced user. SuSE stops at every step of the way and asks about configuration. I'm not really saying this is bad, because it isn't, but it's not for the impatient. The nice part about it is that when setup is complete, you will have a running system that really doesn't require any more setup. Once the OS is up and running, you can immediately begin working (or playing, depending on the situation).
The first thing I noticed when the installer started was that it was using antialiased fonts and the Keramik theme. Nice touch! Compared to their previous versions, this is a welcome change. Most people view this as purely eye candy, but I tend to think of it differently. I see it as less of a strain on your eyes to read the text presented to you. It also looks more appealing to new users. Those of us who have used Linux extensively have grown somewhat used to looking at jagged fonts over the years, but to a new user (coming from Windows or Mac), this is an immediate turn off. My hat's off to SuSE for realizing the importance of first impressions.
The next thing that stood out, other than flawless hardware detection and my timezone was actually correct, was that GNOME was not selected by default in the software list. Well, what about all my apps that require the GNOME/GTK libraries? No problem. I did a search on some of the libraries necessary for operation of traditional GNOME/GTK apps and they were all preselected. Nice touch. This goes a long way with me. For the diehard GNOME users out there, it is still an option. Don't worry. I used to be a GNOME user, but tried KDE 3.1 when it came out and was immediately a convert. SuSE has always placed more emphasis on the KDE environment
Is this attempt to lure out a karm whore or just bad luck on your part? Either way, I don't see it. The site is responding fine for me, despite this being a front page story.
Is he talking about Mad Penguin's Web site?
"And this is my boy, Sherman. Speak, Sherman." "Hello." "Good boy."
I only wonder why Suse didn't call this one 9.something to overcome Mandrake :)
I still have SuSE 8.0 installed on most of my computers, and laptop. And I got to say I like it very much.
SuSE is a good solid Linux distro.
From the screenshots, looks like they upgraded the theme of YaST 2 to Keramik and changed the default theme colour to blue. Good stuff. If they make a full list (and links) of patches / add-on of their kernel along with the documentations, it would make my life compiling kernel easier.
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Mathematics will always come back to hunt you down, in so many ways
From the article
The only complaint I really can think of through this whole experience is that some of the applications didn't work. You would launch them from the K menu and nothing would happen.
Saw the samething with RH9.Try a simple KscreenShot->Save on RH9. While it was expected with RH and their Bluecurve, whats wrong with Suse?
Also the test machine seems to have been an AMD, while I believe most distros put in a Intel optimised Kernel (atleast RH does) and the author mentions that it runs slower than a source distro.Shouldnt he have recompiled the kernel ideally>
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New packages are important, but I have them installed in 8.1 already, and the changes that should matter should be in what differenciate this distribute to the others, and itself in previous versions
- Massive Distribution Version Release
- Long Period during which FTP mirrors are overloaded
- I decide it would be good to burn CDs
- Laziness ensues
- I actually burn CDs
- as soon as the burning starts, new packages come out
- as soon as the burning stops, new distros come out
- Massive Distribution Version Release
- I cry...
Note there was no "4. Profit!" in there...I think that the reason is more big packages released recently (KDE 3.1, Mozilla 1.3, GNOME 2.2, XFree 4.3, etc) and a big amount of critical packages fixed (sendmail, samba, etc).
And, of course, time since their last release. If well they don't have to release at the same time, the previous factors helps to do some kind of syncronization (be because "lets release a new version now that package XX version YY is released" or "release now because the ZZ distribution have the XX package version YY and we don't")
Does anyone know whether this clean fonts in the screenshots are out-of-the-box or added by the reviewer?
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"5... 4... 3.. 1... OFFBLAST!"
Fucking moron. I know this is most likely a troll, but I'll respond anyway. RedHat has people working on / contributin on GNOME, Linux kernel and god-knows-what-else. They employ Alan Cox who is considered to be Linus's right hand by many. SUSE has people working on KDE and CUPS.
BIG EEEVIIIL CORPORATIONS ! RUN !
Everything sucks except musicandstuff
I always find it interesting how some people see what other people think are cons as pluses.
Here's a good example: the story's author likes how SuSE prompts you for information constantly during install. I've heard that as a criticism from other people - why won't this thing just install, dammit!?
It's also a good reason why some people prefer certain distributions and hate others. The guy who likes Debian may not care about a complicated install process and tons of configuration afterwards if he gets auto-upgrade functionality like that found in apt-get, whereas a RedHat user might prefer auto-detection and a really nice-looking desktop (Bluecurve) in exchange for the lack of apt-get functionality.
This is why such casual observations as "X distribution sucks, Y is so much better" tend to be so idiotic - not everyone has their priorities in the same places. What's good for me might not be so good for you, and vica versa.
-Erwos
Plausible conjecture should not be misrepresented as proof positive.
Yeah, they are gonna be ticked I think ;-) to wake up to a sluggish server first thing on a sunday morning. I've already got an email in to them to open the flood gates, at least during the slashdot rush.
Linux with kernel panic...
MadPenguin.org
Recently, someone pointed me to Suse's Open Exchange Server and I was blown away by it. I have quite a few small (2-3 people) offices that are REALLY wanting a way to share calenders and other stuff. MS's Exchange server is WAY TOO DAMN EXPENSIVE. It would seem just a simple computer running Suse's OE would be perfect! However...
:( Are there some good community sites out there for Suse? People that actually use OE Server?
I am really not a linux expert. Ive run Red Hat for years and I like it -- but its not my primary box. It just sits for web serving and ftp. Ill open up VNC and browse through it when Im doing some random stuff that eats up CPU time on this box and Ill also use it when Im at the library or something and I want to use Phoenix -- but thats about it. So, I dunno if I can handle the switch to SuSE.
Also, the other problem I have is with SuSE support. Recently they started offering This evaluation program for OE server. It sounds like $20 gets OE server and I can install it on a box running SuSE and go to town, assuming I can RTFM. I think this would be GREAT! It gives me a chance to demo this out and decide if I want to try to sell it to the small offices I do work for. However, as stupid as it sounds, $30 (after shipping) is hard to come by as a college student. So, I sent them an e-mail asking 1: How long it takes to get shipped out post order and 2: Could I just pay the $20 and download the isos? That was Monday and today is Sunday, and I didn't receive anything back from them. Considering part of the $1,250 paid for OE Server is a year of support from Suse, I need to know that they will be there.
I'd read the article posted, but it has already been slashdoted
PS -- If anyone knows of any alternatives to OE Server, please let me know! I need to be able to share calenders and address books for clients running outlook 2k/XP/2k3. If you know of a way to make iCal and vCards work and well for outlook, I could even live with that.
The ultimate network admin tool needs HELP!
KDE loads and runs perfectly with no delays launching windows and apps take minimal time to load. It's not quite as fast as source-based distros, but for an everyday user, this is completely acceptable behavior. It still runs TONS better than Windows 9x, NT/2000, and XP combined. Who is he kidding? As much as we all love linux and free software. A thing as opening new windows is one of the things that works well on windows. Always fast and the windows is opened before you release the mouse button. /Esben
"Nobody really checks their email any more. They just delete their spam"
Bush seen as a dictator? Hehehehe! I can just imagine! A dictator with a 2-term limit on time in power, in a position where two other branches of government can force that dictator to alter behavior, one that had to be elected, one that (if the dictator wants 8 years of power instead of 4) must campaign in a multi-party system for reelection. That's hilarious. Perhaps if Saddam were in power under a similar syste... Oh, wait, impossible! He would have never come to power in the first place since he arrived in power by coup. Oh, and if he HAD come to power like Bush, he'd have had to leave office in 1987 (8 years later) with one reelection in 1983. Oh, and his country would have a multi-party political system. And you wouldn't be killed, tortured, imprisoned, or your family threatened if you spoke out against the government. Oh, if only ALL world dictators were dictators in exactly the same way Bush is a dictator...
In case y'all didn't know, SuSE is Slackware's long long lost bastard child. It sprung directly from it just as Redhat squirted out Mandrake.
- IP
I'm getting a little bored of these reviews... they read more like little diary entries than full reviews. This one is better than most, but it is still just a rambling tale of the odd things this person noticed about the product. At the moment, the only way to determine which distro is better is to try them all, or to sift through reviews weeding out the occasional shred of information from the random problems each person had.
:)
A breakdown of what the distro offers in the way of tools, unusual packages, speed, stability, etc. would be nice. I know it might get a bit repetetive over many versions, but it's still useful to get it all down, and also to comment on how well they work.
Me thinks it's time to set-up www.troll-diary.org and let these reviews be posted alongside the usual ill-thought-out "Linux won't succeed until..." and "distro x isn't as good as BeOS because...". It'll save me checking them out at least
I used to use SuSE on a number of machines some time ago (started with SuSE 6, last version I used was SuSE 6.2).
What really used to annoy me was the propensity it had for just editing config files I had altered, without any warnings. ISTR there was a change you could make in a rc file somewhere that would stop YAST from doing this, but then that meant newly installed packages didn't configure themselves correctly.
Have SuSE since fixed this? I now run Debian on my machines at home, whilst at work we use Redhat (management's choice, but not one I'm massively upset with). I haven't seen a good reason yet why I might want to switch, but perhaps some other Slashdotters can come up with some?
Blaming GW Bush for the Iraq war is like blaming Ronald McDonald for the poor quality of food.
All pre-packaged distros suck. Build your own linux distro... from scratch.
(Chicken-v.-Egg Warning: You'll need a working linux system to build one from scratch.)
I started compiling from source two weeks ago and just built Mozilla last night! w00t!
I graduated from MIT.. with top honors.. and I am the ceo of a large software company.. and I am also the senator of the state of Wisconsin.. and many other qualifications...
oh wait.. im posting ac so none of that means anything..
I find SuSE to be a bit rough on the updates, and the live cd, no download thing is not acceptable. Dont get me wrong I like suse, and I paid for boxed sets of 6, 6.1, 7, 8, but its just not worth it anymore. Gentoo gives me all the bleeding edge that I can handle, with a 10th the fuss, and its free, AS IN BEER.
Does anyone know if Suse is distributed in ISO format?I'd like to have permanent copies of the install disks, because I expect to be moving soon, and don't know when I'll have fast internet again... Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Ignorance is blissful, to the ignorant.
> one that had to be elected
Really? I thought Bush hadn't the mayority of the votes.
> must campaign in a multi-party system for reelection
You mean a TWO-party system, not a multi-party system. Look at the european counties, they have democratic multi-party systems - or do you think ignoring minorities is democratic?
> or your family threatened if you spoke out against the government.
Ok, so if an US-citizen says 'fuck Bush for whatever, I don't like him' he won't be arrested? Are you sure?
Btw: have you noticed that Bush is allied with a real dictator? I'll explain this: a dictator is usually defined as a political leader who is not interested in the popular opinion, who ignors the interests of its citizens and of other parties, right? So what about Asnar??? Over 90% of the spanish population is against war, and he just says 'fuck off, I want war!'. Is this democracy??? Is Bush really willing to support and be allied with such a dictator??? Think about it!
Complete with screenshots :) = Site down
Mirrors?
I've been having trouble with online update on some of my boxes. The older distros started first. Failures on 7.3 when 8.0 came out. Failures on 8.0 when 8.1 came out. And now I'm noticing that 8.1 isn't so hot either, although there aren't any failures yet.
It appears that Suse is taking lessons from ms on forced upgrades. Why do I say this? The problems with online update on the early releases have already been acknowledged by Suse, according to some of the tech writers. They and others have posted that Suse's answer was to upgrade, there was a bug in such and such release of online update, and the solution was to upgrade, they weren't going to fix it.
Apparently, enough people complained about 8.0, and possibly 8.1 online updates that they came up with a workaround. Deleting the files that hold the update records is one of the workarounds.
So according to Suse, if I use their distro, I could forget about the hundreds of days of uptime I used to enjoy. I have to pay them for every upgrade.
With ms still supporting Win98, and still supporting NT if you block the rpc port, ms distros work out cheaper in just licensing costs, if they last so much longer than Suse. And as for stability, Win2000 is pretty damn stable, and when stripped for specific uses, it only gets more stable.
Online update is arguably the most important part of a distro. The security updates must constantly be installed. I've been running distros without firewalls, and haven't been hacked, for years. As long as the packages are updated, and you only run what you need, you don't have a problem. Of course, as best practices, I've added firewalls to my servers. But if you can't update the security patches, what good is a firewall?
I have boxes running 7.3 without any problems (yet). And I have boxes running 7.3 that I've had to take down and put another distro on it because online update kept failing. I have boxes running 8.0 with the same problem. Some run fine (so far). Others choke on online update, I can't download/install the security patches, and I have to change distos.
If the distro would work, I could leave the boxes running apache, and never have to touch them for over a year each, except to update security patches. But due to the online update problem, I have a headache of time administering these boxes.
I bought 8.0 because of the online update problem with 7.3, or I would have been happy with 7.3 Now with the problems with 8.0, I decided against paying for 8.1, I did an ftp install instead. I would have bought it, in part because I like to have the original disks on hand rather than getting scratched copies from someone, or wasting time with the loooooong ftp install. But I also would have paid for the new release because I believe in supporting companies who support my business. If a company is going to help me out with a product or service, I believe in helping them out as well, with the religion part of it having nothing to do with it, I've been rewarding companies who help my company for many years.
I add a new server every few months on average. So bothering with a local nfs server install doesn't interest me. But with the online update problems, I'd be crazy to continue punishing myself.
Forced upgrades is a dirty ms tactic. Too bad its bleeding into our community.
I never thought I'd say this, or do this, but Debian, here I come.
> Btw: have you noticed that Bush is allied with a real dictator? I'll explain this: a dictator is usually defined as a political leader who is not interested in the popular opinion, who ignors the interests of its citizens and of other parties, right? So what about Asnar??? Over 90% of the spanish population is against war, and he just says 'fuck off, I want war!'. Is this democracy??? Is Bush really willing to support and be allied with such a dictator??? Think about it!
If you're just now realizing that the United States has frequently allied themselves with dictators whose interests coincided with US interests (and who could be taken out later when those interests later diverged from ours), then I suggest you would find a study of US history over the last 50 years to be very, very eye-opening.
We're not nearly as beneficial as we make out to be, not when threatened by Communists, and not currently when threatened by terrorists. Different enemy, same fearful reaction.
Small governments of the world, beware. And these days, "small" includes just about all of them.
Aznar (not Asnar) has the majority in the goverment. That means he can make decisions without consulting anybody. Besides, did Bush ask the people about the war? No, he did whatever he wanted. That most of the us population agrees with him doesn't mean he is doing what the people wants.
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Seem like the Mad Penguin is spilling the guts (The MySql username/password is replaces with xxx/xxx below):
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Btw: I have long since switched from Red Hat to SUSE - I tried the new RH8, but I'll stick with SUSE (ssh works, mc works, kde works,
> SUSE has people working on KDE and CUPS.
Actually, SuSEs OSS development staff is the largest one.
There are more screenshots than in this review.
All these distributions are great, but what I really want is the ability to install a printer without editing text files and starting a service to do it, and have my printers actually show up in my applications.
Howdy,
I am a windows XP user. I've had redhat installed before with win2k, dual boot, but haven't used Linux since I upgraded to XP. I just looked at the Suse page and could not find anything under install that led me to believe the two operating systems would work together. I am a clueless windows user. If you want me to run linux, and Suse looks real pretty, I need to have my hand held a bit more.
I have plenty of space, and a real desire to try out Suse, but not at the risk of damaging my XP install.
Does anyone know if SuSE 8.2 supports LT winmodems? (I know... "ugh!", but my laptop came with one and I don't feel like spending extra money on a pcmcia card) This is pretty much the only point that keeps me with RedHat at the moment.
Uh yeah, dumbass, I'm pretty sure. There were people marching by here this morning with signs saying much stronger things than that and they're not being arrested. You must get your information from one of those idiotic European newspapers that can't even tell a consistent set of lies from one day to the next.
Perhaps you're thinking of France, where you can now go to jail for showing disrespect to the national anthem or the flag.
I usually define SuSE as AIX written by Germans on crack. -- Derry Hamilton, alt.sysadmin.recovery
Bush was not elected fairly. Not only did he fair to get the majority of votes, but there was a major election scandal in Florida where some 60,000 voters who *happened to share their name with a convicted felon* and who were *dispurportionally black* were barred from voting, despite the fact that the vast majority were not convicted felons, and most of those that were had the right to vote because they were convicted in states which did not disenfranchise felons... This was covered BTW on BBC, and in the Washington Post (well after the fact) and is the basis of a lawsuit against the state of Florida by the NAACP. Basically assuming that standard demographics applied, Bush would have lost the election because he would have lost Florida... BTW, Jed Bush used the same tactics in the most recent election, excluding an even greater number of (predomainantly Democrat) voters.
;)
How does this have to do with SuSE 8.2? SuSE 8.2 is a German company, and so I have argued that one should in fact protest this war by going out of our way to buy German and French goods. This means Mandrake and SuSE. Oh, and it never hurts to send a letter to your congressman explaining why you are doing this too... CC: president@whitehouse.gov and leaders of France and Germany as well, naturally
LedgerSMB: Open source Accounting/ERP
SuSE 8.1 could never detect my monitors, has this changed? Red Hat, Mandrake, Slackware, and just about every other disto I've tried can except SuSE.
I think you have have not been reading the news. People getting arresting for wearing "Give Peace a Chance" t-shirts or old ladies carrying anti-war banners. People are being arrested for voicing critical opinion of the war.
Freedom and free speach were the first victims of this (probably the first of many) oil war.
I love stacking my barbecues in the shed at the end of summer - you can't beat a bit of grill on grill action.
You know, there's just something so very hilarios about seeing an article about the "'Uphill battle' to win Iraqi trust", next to a SuSE review by "TheMadPenguin".
Great to see Google News is now carrying Slashdot stories. I propose a toast to Google News; Here's to bringing you down a notch!
RANT:
No, it's not a troll... Trolls don't post at +2, now do they? Trolls don't have a dozen comments listed on their user info page that have been moderated up, now do they? NOW QUIT MODERATING EVERY BAD JOKE AS A TROLL!
Slashdot gets worse every day... Pipedot: News for nerds, without the corporate slant
Yes, with the Slashdotting, I just bet that Penguin is FURIOUS now.
Mad Penguin is out to lunch. His site just /usr directory. Hopefully he will have them repaired in time for
gives reference to unavailable socket connections
to subdirectories of his
us to enjoy the first look by the week end.
Preach on brother Anon.
...a daily weblog of broken websites!
I don't think that boycotting a German linux distributor will effect Germany's political stance one way or the other. It will only hurt one of the best Linux companies around. I don't understand why so many people of so many nationalities are taking the political decisions of other countries personally. I am an American, an ex-soldier, living in Germany. I personally feel that the war is in many ways justified, others don't. Everybody is allowed to have and voice their own opinions, and countries are allowed to do the same. The French, Russians, and Germans are the most outspoken against the war, but that is their right. One of the reasons that we are in Iraq is to give the Iraqi people the right to voice their opinions. We don't punish people for different points of view in the United States, and we shouldn't treat Germans, French or whoever, any differently. And a note about presidents going against the will of their constituants. Name one country that does a nationwide vote on whether to raise taxes or not. We have set regulations for electing officials, and they were followed to a "T". Dare I forget to mention that our legislative branch of government voted overwelmingly to support the presidents decision should he feel that war is the only viable option. Everybody has an opinion, but not everybody has the facts... learn a little before trying to tell someone something.
...arrested for trespass and for blocking traffic, or worse, not speech. If the administration were busy silencing critics, Bush would have had Bob Herbert and Paul Krugman executed already...
Only the dead have seen the end of war.
Seen 4 times on the review site's page: Warning: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2) in /usr/local/psa/home/vhosts/madpenguin.org/httpdocs /mainfile.php on line 28
Madpenguin be illin'....
Obviously not long enough to give them any credibility in the business environment. Ok for the home user, but shhheeeeshhhh I wouldn't do a LAN install with any of these release-every-3-to-6-months dists.
scripsit craesh:
Huh? Right-wing dictatorship in Spain? Impossible. Could never happen. You must be thinking of San Marino.
In principio creauit Linus Linucem.
fuck you piece of shit americunt
good luck to the Iraqi defenders
Even if the setup tool has some dubious license restrictions, I think they really believe in open source- half the important OSS projects I keep up with get regular donations from the guys.
> Huh? Right-wing dictatorship in Spain? Impossible. Could never happen. You must be thinking of San Marino.
Impossible??? I also thought so before, but yes, it's real! Some hours ago I heard in TV that 92% of the spanish citizens are against war, there are every weekend millions demonstrating (although the goverment says there are just some 100.000), in several regions they are even on strike, simulating war instead of going for work!
Aznar is really destroying Spain! He is responsible for the Prestige-disaster, it has contaminated huge parts of the spanish northern coast with oil. You think this is impossible in Spain? It _IS_ possible, I'm sorry.
The next ellections will be summer, go to hell Aznar, great dictator, hopefully the last one Spain ever had!
craesh
After browsing through their ftp server for a little bit, I discovered that 8.2 won't be available until April 11. Latest version that's available right now is 8.1
All I want to do is upgrade from 8.1, or 8.0, or 7.3, 7.1 or 7.0 which I have purchased.
I'm not purchasing anymore versions of SuSE. If I can't do free upgrades I might as well be buying Microsoft products.
Or better yet, I'll switch to debian. Yes I'm bitter!
Attention, content-management hackers. MySQL appeals, because it's open-source, it's easy to set up, and it handles very simple queries quickly. THESE ARE ITS ONLY VIRTUES . Once your web site starts getting traffic, you have to start looking at a real DBMS that optimizes complex queries and scales worth a damn. Here's one, and another, and yet another.
I also have never been laid, and can go weeks without bathing! If it werent for the internet, I would have absolutely NO human contact...
Manipulate the moderator system! Mod someone as "overrated" today.
Keeping our fingers crossed this time. Sorry for the inconvenience /. :)
Linux with kernel panic...
MadPenguin.org
Slashdot is not dying! Look at Usenet. Posts quoting slashdot outnumber posts quoting the bible, at least in the com.os.linux.* newsgroups. You don't have to be Kreskin to understand this.
Lets compare how many civilians were really accidentally killed by US.
Nah; let's see how many posts to Usenet mention civilian casualties instead. You don't have to be Kreskin to figure this out.
"nearly at war"? "pending attack"?? Not just a troll but a completely out of date one.
Kernel:
/etc files with it's own. Dag nabbit!
Clever installer detected my laptop and installed klaptop packages, but the SuSE kernel didn't even have the magical ACPI "control method battery" feature (either in the kernel source or as a module) to run it!!!!! There were a few minimal ACPI modules available.
So I get to look at a damn ugly icon of a battery with a line through it saying that my kernel does not have the ACPI features to run the program.
To get it to work, do we need to purchase the new version? Or download a generic non-SuSE'ed kernel source?
"Clever" YaST2?
Oh yeah, and the "clever" auto-config-my-system program kept overwriting my changes to the
"Clever hardware detect?
The built-in mouse/knob-thingamee kept getting redetected at boot time as new hardware every 3rd or 4th boot. I get a nasty text version of Yast asking me to select (again - for the millionth time) the same mouse/pointer. And "no" I haven't been using any external mouse devices.
THE SOLUTION:
Perhaps SuSE should fix their bugs on the current version, before charging people for a newer version.
I have SuSE 8.1 Professional and I already upgraded to KDE 3.1, so nothing in 8.2 is exceptional, except for their online update fix. I have SuSE installed on several boxes and my new Pavilion laptop, I amazed that I never had to configure anything passed the installation. The reason I'm upgrading to 8.2 is not the new kernel or features, but to support SuSE for a most excellent distro. 8.1 is solid stable and fully functional.
Read "SuSE Linux 8.2: Evolutionary, but not Revolutionary".
Ensure you use the Windows bootloader (i.e. mess with c:\boot.ini) - there's something in Windows which dislikes anything making the system useful (i.e. a non-Win OS ;-). I've also had instances where Windows reset the active partition when it was booted up, negating the trick of making the Linux partition the active one and running boot management from there. Obviously, the best solution is just to delete XP, but that may free too much Internet bandwidth as it no longer needs to call 'home' ;-). =X=
This does not look like Fiction to me, it appears to have been published originally in the Sunday Times and Mark Franchetti appears to have been a reporter for many years.
I really don't see much evidence that Iraqi people are that supportive of the US, at best they seem indifferent and in a lot of cases aggressive toward the US. In a way you can see why, the US and UK are invading their country, bombing their cities and telling them what they can or cannot do. Regardless of the motivation behind the actions of the US/UK this kind of behaviour is bound to offend the natural patriotism and loyalty one feels towards one's country.
Every man who has reached even his intellectual teens begins to suspect
that life is no farce; that it is not genteel comedy even; that it flowers
and fructifies on the contrary out of the profoundest tragic depths of the
essential death in which its subject's roots are plunged. The natural
inheritance of everyone who is capable of spiritual life is an unsubdued
forest where the wolf howls and the obscene bird of night chatters.
-- Henry James Sr., writing to his sons Henry and William
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