Quoth me: "I'm not going to post a long list of original games, for a few reasons. One: the list will be nit-picked incessantly, and that's not really the point, and Two: What I consider original, you may not."
Quoth the reply "If other people don't post their lists, how are other people supposed to know what others find original. If everyone found the same games original, then we could just have one person examine all the games make a list of the original ones and be done with it."
I refer you to my statement. Finding a list of original games is not, repeat not, the point of why I was posting. The point of my post is to show that if you look at originality in a different way than "completely new, never been done before", you see that there's plenty of it out there.
Quoth the reply again, "The fact that different people find different games original is an argument for you posting a long list of games you find original not against it. Also, what's so bad about your list being nit-picked?"
It's an argument for me posting a list, if I cared to get into a long, pointless-to-me discussion and rant over what games are original now. I have no interest in that. The list being nit-picked would lead to the above referenced pointless (to me) discussion. That's what's bad.
That's got to be the most asinine thing I've ever read. "Original" is a subjective adjective. "Hydrogen" and "kilogram" are objective, completely measurable, and standardized. Care to try again with your analogies?
You just have to look for it. I'm not going to post a long list of original games, for a few reasons. One: the list will be nit-picked incessantly, and that's not really the piont, and Two: What I consider original, you may not. The point is that just like buying a car, or watching a movie, or choosing a book, you just have to separate the wheat from the chaff. Is there less originality in games now than there was X number of years ago? Yes. It's a fact of any developing system. Stephen Jay Gould says (paraphrase) that "As a system matures, it becomes harder to stand out."
The longer we go, the more things that will be done, the more games will have been done before. It's like the Southpark episode where Butters tries to come up with a scheme for chaos. "Simpsons did it!" The conclusion: Of course the Simpsons did it. They've been around forever. And as Chef points out, the Simpsons stole some of their stuff from others before them. It's not necessarily about doing new things. It's about applying your (hopefully good and sensible) take on those "tired" ways of doing things to put them into new light.
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Gator operates by preying on the stupid, uninformed, and lazy in order to push a business model for which there is no proof that it actually works one bit, in the face of a mountain of proof that it generates ill will towards any company that uses it and its clients.
Bet you won't see that in their prospectus, but it's the truth.
The track record of RIAA and MPAA should show that, sometimes, they take action against things that clearly help their bottom-line...How about MPAA trying to shutdown clean-flix, which would mean parents would buy more movies, because they could allow their children to watch, without the sex/violence/(al)gore/etc.
It's just as likely (I'd argue more likely) that they're still trying to protect their bottom-line.
Question 1: Who doesn't want movies to be edited for content? Film-makers. The film is their vision, their baby.
Question 2: What is the revenue stream for a movie production company based on? Films.
Question 3: If film-makers get angry at production companies for not protecting the "artistic integrity and vision" of films they produce, whose bottom line is hurt? The production companies.
Never forget that every business has two sets of people to please: their customers, and their suppliers. Without one or the other, you're fucked.
Not for nothing, but at the dorm my freshman year, there were quite a few people who were *very* into SW (shock, I know). They told me a few things that were buried into books and the like (this was back in '96), and some of these were included. So they weren't just spun out of the air for the movies.
The Clone Wars, and Obi-Wan's involvement.
The "Ben Kenobi" that Luke meets is a clone.
Boba Fett was the model for the clone army.
That Luke and Leia's children were the basis for Eps. 7-9.
Really, that's all I remember. But I think it mitigates the "completely contrived" theory. I presume these things were in books, but I could be wrong.
All these answers, and I bet 70% of you have read HHGTG. You paint it pink with polka dots, erect a simple SEP (Somebody Else's Problem) Field, and everyone will think it's gone.
If the kiddie porn producers are taken care of, then the user end pretty much gets taken care of by itself.
Of course. This logic is what has led to such a resounding success in the War On Drugs, which as we all know, ended in 1986, after a few years of fighting the suppliers.
I was fucking around with my new cable modem connection, picking songs at random to download. I queued up about 20, then set about to play some NES emulator games. I realized that my GamePad was unplugged, so I plugged it back in. Wham, BSOD. I cursed at the computer for a few moments, then turned off the monitor and went to answer the ringing phone. When I came back about an hour or two later, I turned the tower off and then tried to turn it back on. The power supply was dead. Kicked the tower, then went to get a new power supply, and brought it home to install the next day.
When I got the new power supply installed, I went to check everything to make sure nothing had disappeared. "That's funny", I think to myself, "why is there 300 MB of free space gone?" You got it. While the computer was in BSOD mode, completely frozen, AG had been working in the background, downloading 15 of the 20 songs I had queued up. That's a killer app.
All in all, excellent post. It should be moderated up.
Don't you know you're supposed to humiliate and denigrate your opponent? Sheesh. You never would have made it in the cut-throat world of high school CX debate.:)
You can see my post a few down from parent, but I'll repeat it here. Spam Gourmet provides you an easy way to have disposable addresses. Sign up with them and give them a user name, password, and your email address. Then, whenever you post an address, or subscribe to a web service, you give them this: (a unique identifier).(some number).(your spam gourmet user name)@spamgourmet.com . The number is the number of emails that can be sent to that address before it gets killed. (Mail after that point is "eaten", hence the name Spam Gourmet.) No need to actually "create" disposable addresses. No need to manage them. Go to Spam Gourmet once, and never go back.
It seems every article (dupe or not) on spam returns a thousand people throwing out their personal solution to fighting it. Most involve mail-server solutions, such as SpamAssassin, but I've read about MailWasher a number of times. After the last article (the original of this dupe, actually), I finally decided to try it.
A week later, spam to my hotmail account has dropped from 30 or so a day to about 2. (Warning: Hotmail support is only provided in the pay version, but there's a 30-day trial.) Preview the spam on the server, and you're able to delete it, blacklist it, and best of all, bounce it back to the sender. In my wildest dreams, I never thought it would work so well. YMMV.
Another kick-ass product is Spam Gourmet. Some website wants your email address? Give them (unique identifer).(some number).(your user name)@spamgourmet.com . The number is the number of emails they can send before the address is killed, and the user name is your user name at spamgourmet. Go sign up, and you never have to go back to the site again. It works.
I'm sure many people are like me, and read these testimonials and figure that they're hype. Trust me. They're not. I wish I had done it the first time I read about them.
This was another Engel classic, involving the cute guy, the dorky guy, the athletic guy, the cute girl, the smart girl, and the black girl. Except this time, they go to a boarding school! Replete with the dopey headmaster and hot secretary. Embarassingly stupid, though it survived for some years after being axed on NBC by moving to, of all networks, USA.
Custom bumper stickers can be found here. Simply make a graphic (either.jpg,.bmp,.tif, or.gif) and upload the design to them. Want just one? 5 bucks (and believe me, when I was looking to get a bumper sticker made a few months ago, this is the only site I could find where there's no minimum order.) Want 10? $2.60 apiece. Free shipping, and you'll get your order within a week or less, depending on how many you order. An absolutely boffo service, and it's one of a kind. Make 10 and give them out to people (or slap them on random bumpers.)
Don't know where this is going, but I'm afraid it might get significantly harder for humble college students such as myself to sample an artist's music before going out and buying a disc... my speed across the network is ridiculously faster than when I try to access outside sources.
I'm sorry, I don't believe you.
I'm sorry, I don't care whether or not you believe him (or me.) Let me be the 8,000th person to say this on/., but I do buy more music thanks to file-sharing. Before Napster, I bought, on average, 5-10 CDs a year. I'm very, very picky. I like quite a bit, but I don't buy most of it. Only after extended listening, usually due to a friend owning the album (we're talking 5+ listens to the full album here) would I buy a CD.
Post-Napster, I'm buying 20-25 CDs a year. I burn entire albums, yes. Some are acts I already know, but want to check out an album that I don't own. I've been burned enough by the "I like one CD, so I'll probably like all of theirs" mentality enough to avoid it. Some are of acts I've only heard about. Burn it, enjoy it (or not), and expand.
In the middle of last year, I got onto an extended hip-hop kick. I've always been a big fan, but I started listening almost exclusively, and started snapping up CDs both new and used at the rate of 2 or 3 a week. Why? Because after listening to A Tribe Called Quest's Midnight Marauders for about the thousandth time, I happened to be in front of a PC when I heard the line "favorite rap group back in the day was EPMD." Went to Amazon, read some reviews. Downloaded and burned Strictly Business, and listened to it on the way home. Went nuts. Went out and bought two other EPMD albums. Moved on to Nas (1 burn, 1 buy), Biz Markie (2 buys), De La Soul (2 buys), etcetera, etcetera. The result? My hip-hop collection has gone from about 30 CDs to about 80 (15 of which are burns), and I have an extensive collection of early hip-hop which I'm still adding to at a very accelerated rate for me. The moral, as always with posts like this, is that for the price of me "stealing" 10 albums, I've bought 40 others. Yeah, I'm "stealing and pirating." Yeah, the RIAA can feel free to condemn me. But if they would just take their heads out of their butts, they would realize and capitalize on this. So yes, I'm saying the same thing everyone else says, and you probably don't believe me or don't care. But they should.
To bastardize a quote: "Fuck the RIAA. Fuck them up their stupid asses."
What happens if you walk into the bar-b-que place and fail to give the obligatory..."Yeeeehaaw" on your way through the door;p
The people in the place all hum the theme from "Dallas", then sing "Deep in the Heart of Texas" while roping cattle and riding to work on horses, and the state executes a retarded person.
I was all ready to light you up when I read "Tables with square bent metal and vinyl covered chairs are a bad sign.", but you staved that off with your "I don't think I've ever had bad bar-b-que in Texas. It's probably a capital offense to serve bad bbq there." comment. The absolute best BBQ in Texas is always at a place with metal tables (or wooden picnic benches inside) and vinyl chairs. For fellow Austinites, I'm referring to Rudy's and Bongo, among others. Take it from a life-long Texan: if you walk into a BBQ joint and see a single person eating it with a knife and fork, or eating at a table with a tablecloth that needs to be laundered instead of wiped with a sponge, get the fuck out. I worked at a Tony Roma's in college. I know what I'm talking about.
Don't tell this to IBM, Microsoft, Intel, Merck, Pfizer...all of which spend a hundred times what Google does on R&D.
I have no interest in looking the actual numbers up, but all the companies you named have enormous (or my favorite word, ginormous) market caps. They probably spend more on office furniture than Google does on R&D. But what about expenditures on R&D as a percentage of overall spending? I'd wager that only Pfizer spends more than Google.
Young Guy: "So, you say when I buy cheap replacement ink cartridges, I'm supporting terrorism?"
Old Guy: "Yes."
YG: "But the terrorists only get a little bit of that money."
OG: "So you're saying that it's okay to buy cheap ink cartridges and support terrorism....a little?"
YG: "Good point. (I will never, ever buy cheap ink cartridges on the off chance that a nickel of that money will go to support terrorism because otherwise I'm a bad American. Thank you Old Guy, for showing me the light and saving me from the unholy path that I was moving toward, all in the interests of saving a few measly dollars. I wish all our children could hear these arguments and learn, like me, that buying cheap ink cartridges is immoral and means that you approve of the slaughter of children and puppies!")
The part in the parentheses is what I just wish they would go ahead and say in those anti-drug commercials. If you're going to be blatantly stupid, you might as well do it right.
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Quoth the reply "If other people don't post their lists, how are other people supposed to know what others find original. If everyone found the same games original, then we could just have one person examine all the games make a list of the original ones and be done with it."
I refer you to my statement. Finding a list of original games is not, repeat not, the point of why I was posting. The point of my post is to show that if you look at originality in a different way than "completely new, never been done before", you see that there's plenty of it out there.
Quoth the reply again, "The fact that different people find different games original is an argument for you posting a long list of games you find original not against it. Also, what's so bad about your list being nit-picked?"
It's an argument for me posting a list, if I cared to get into a long, pointless-to-me discussion and rant over what games are original now. I have no interest in that. The list being nit-picked would lead to the above referenced pointless (to me) discussion. That's what's bad.
That's got to be the most asinine thing I've ever read. "Original" is a subjective adjective. "Hydrogen" and "kilogram" are objective, completely measurable, and standardized. Care to try again with your analogies?
The longer we go, the more things that will be done, the more games will have been done before. It's like the Southpark episode where Butters tries to come up with a scheme for chaos. "Simpsons did it!" The conclusion: Of course the Simpsons did it. They've been around forever. And as Chef points out, the Simpsons stole some of their stuff from others before them. It's not necessarily about doing new things. It's about applying your (hopefully good and sensible) take on those "tired" ways of doing things to put them into new light.
Bet you won't see that in their prospectus, but it's the truth.
Or break his fucking fingers.
It's just as likely (I'd argue more likely) that they're still trying to protect their bottom-line.
Question 1: Who doesn't want movies to be edited for content? Film-makers. The film is their vision, their baby.
Question 2: What is the revenue stream for a movie production company based on? Films.
Question 3: If film-makers get angry at production companies for not protecting the "artistic integrity and vision" of films they produce, whose bottom line is hurt? The production companies.
Never forget that every business has two sets of people to please: their customers, and their suppliers. Without one or the other, you're fucked.
The Clone Wars, and Obi-Wan's involvement.
The "Ben Kenobi" that Luke meets is a clone.
Boba Fett was the model for the clone army.
That Luke and Leia's children were the basis for Eps. 7-9.
Really, that's all I remember. But I think it mitigates the "completely contrived" theory. I presume these things were in books, but I could be wrong.
All these answers, and I bet 70% of you have read HHGTG. You paint it pink with polka dots, erect a simple SEP (Somebody Else's Problem) Field, and everyone will think it's gone.
Of course. This logic is what has led to such a resounding success in the War On Drugs, which as we all know, ended in 1986, after a few years of fighting the suppliers.
Isn't the Trojan supposed to be the protection? That's what their commercials tell me.
I was fucking around with my new cable modem connection, picking songs at random to download. I queued up about 20, then set about to play some NES emulator games. I realized that my GamePad was unplugged, so I plugged it back in. Wham, BSOD. I cursed at the computer for a few moments, then turned off the monitor and went to answer the ringing phone. When I came back about an hour or two later, I turned the tower off and then tried to turn it back on. The power supply was dead. Kicked the tower, then went to get a new power supply, and brought it home to install the next day.
When I got the new power supply installed, I went to check everything to make sure nothing had disappeared. "That's funny", I think to myself, "why is there 300 MB of free space gone?" You got it. While the computer was in BSOD mode, completely frozen, AG had been working in the background, downloading 15 of the 20 songs I had queued up. That's a killer app.
And you're called a pedant.
Don't you know you're supposed to humiliate and denigrate your opponent? Sheesh. You never would have made it in the cut-throat world of high school CX debate. :)
Except with much better spelling.
You can see my post a few down from parent, but I'll repeat it here. Spam Gourmet provides you an easy way to have disposable addresses. Sign up with them and give them a user name, password, and your email address. Then, whenever you post an address, or subscribe to a web service, you give them this: (a unique identifier).(some number).(your spam gourmet user name)@spamgourmet.com . The number is the number of emails that can be sent to that address before it gets killed. (Mail after that point is "eaten", hence the name Spam Gourmet.) No need to actually "create" disposable addresses. No need to manage them. Go to Spam Gourmet once, and never go back.
A week later, spam to my hotmail account has dropped from 30 or so a day to about 2. (Warning: Hotmail support is only provided in the pay version, but there's a 30-day trial.) Preview the spam on the server, and you're able to delete it, blacklist it, and best of all, bounce it back to the sender. In my wildest dreams, I never thought it would work so well. YMMV.
Another kick-ass product is Spam Gourmet. Some website wants your email address? Give them (unique identifer).(some number).(your user name)@spamgourmet.com . The number is the number of emails they can send before the address is killed, and the user name is your user name at spamgourmet. Go sign up, and you never have to go back to the site again. It works.
I'm sure many people are like me, and read these testimonials and figure that they're hype. Trust me. They're not. I wish I had done it the first time I read about them.
High School USA was a Michael J. Fox movie from 1983. I believe you're thinking of USA High, which was produced by Tartikoff's buddy, (and everybody's favorite), Peter Engel, who brought you Saved By the Bell, plus the eminently forgettable California Dreams, City Guys, and All About Us.
This was another Engel classic, involving the cute guy, the dorky guy, the athletic guy, the cute girl, the smart girl, and the black girl. Except this time, they go to a boarding school! Replete with the dopey headmaster and hot secretary. Embarassingly stupid, though it survived for some years after being axed on NBC by moving to, of all networks, USA.
Custom bumper stickers can be found here. Simply make a graphic (either .jpg, .bmp, .tif, or .gif) and upload the design to them. Want just one? 5 bucks (and believe me, when I was looking to get a bumper sticker made a few months ago, this is the only site I could find where there's no minimum order.) Want 10? $2.60 apiece. Free shipping, and you'll get your order within a week or less, depending on how many you order. An absolutely boffo service, and it's one of a kind. Make 10 and give them out to people (or slap them on random bumpers.)
I'm sorry, I don't care whether or not you believe him (or me.) Let me be the 8,000th person to say this on /., but I do buy more music thanks to file-sharing. Before Napster, I bought, on average, 5-10 CDs a year. I'm very, very picky. I like quite a bit, but I don't buy most of it. Only after extended listening, usually due to a friend owning the album (we're talking 5+ listens to the full album here) would I buy a CD.
Post-Napster, I'm buying 20-25 CDs a year. I burn entire albums, yes. Some are acts I already know, but want to check out an album that I don't own. I've been burned enough by the "I like one CD, so I'll probably like all of theirs" mentality enough to avoid it. Some are of acts I've only heard about. Burn it, enjoy it (or not), and expand.
In the middle of last year, I got onto an extended hip-hop kick. I've always been a big fan, but I started listening almost exclusively, and started snapping up CDs both new and used at the rate of 2 or 3 a week. Why? Because after listening to A Tribe Called Quest's Midnight Marauders for about the thousandth time, I happened to be in front of a PC when I heard the line "favorite rap group back in the day was EPMD." Went to Amazon, read some reviews. Downloaded and burned Strictly Business, and listened to it on the way home. Went nuts. Went out and bought two other EPMD albums. Moved on to Nas (1 burn, 1 buy), Biz Markie (2 buys), De La Soul (2 buys), etcetera, etcetera. The result? My hip-hop collection has gone from about 30 CDs to about 80 (15 of which are burns), and I have an extensive collection of early hip-hop which I'm still adding to at a very accelerated rate for me. The moral, as always with posts like this, is that for the price of me "stealing" 10 albums, I've bought 40 others. Yeah, I'm "stealing and pirating." Yeah, the RIAA can feel free to condemn me. But if they would just take their heads out of their butts, they would realize and capitalize on this. So yes, I'm saying the same thing everyone else says, and you probably don't believe me or don't care. But they should.
To bastardize a quote: "Fuck the RIAA. Fuck them up their stupid asses."
The people in the place all hum the theme from "Dallas", then sing "Deep in the Heart of Texas" while roping cattle and riding to work on horses, and the state executes a retarded person.
I was all ready to light you up when I read "Tables with square bent metal and vinyl covered chairs are a bad sign.", but you staved that off with your "I don't think I've ever had bad bar-b-que in Texas. It's probably a capital offense to serve bad bbq there." comment. The absolute best BBQ in Texas is always at a place with metal tables (or wooden picnic benches inside) and vinyl chairs. For fellow Austinites, I'm referring to Rudy's and Bongo, among others. Take it from a life-long Texan: if you walk into a BBQ joint and see a single person eating it with a knife and fork, or eating at a table with a tablecloth that needs to be laundered instead of wiped with a sponge, get the fuck out. I worked at a Tony Roma's in college. I know what I'm talking about.
That be sounding like a challenge, matey.
Please report yourself to the Justice Department immediately.
-John Ashcroft
I have no interest in looking the actual numbers up, but all the companies you named have enormous (or my favorite word, ginormous) market caps. They probably spend more on office furniture than Google does on R&D. But what about expenditures on R&D as a percentage of overall spending? I'd wager that only Pfizer spends more than Google.
Old Guy: "Yes."
YG: "But the terrorists only get a little bit of that money."
OG: "So you're saying that it's okay to buy cheap ink cartridges and support terrorism....a little?"
YG: "Good point. (I will never, ever buy cheap ink cartridges on the off chance that a nickel of that money will go to support terrorism because otherwise I'm a bad American. Thank you Old Guy, for showing me the light and saving me from the unholy path that I was moving toward, all in the interests of saving a few measly dollars. I wish all our children could hear these arguments and learn, like me, that buying cheap ink cartridges is immoral and means that you approve of the slaughter of children and puppies!")
The part in the parentheses is what I just wish they would go ahead and say in those anti-drug commercials. If you're going to be blatantly stupid, you might as well do it right.