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  1. Re:Critics Reaction... on The End of Mathematical Proofs by Humans? · · Score: 1

    Every proof rests upon axioms, and if we accept the axioms then we must accept a logically correct proof. However, we may also reject a proof on the basis of those axioms. For example, much of analysis rests upon the axiom of choice, a seemingly innocent statement with some absolutely bizarre consequences (refer to the link). In the past, some mathematicians would be inclined to reject a proof which used the axiom of choice, simply because they didn't want to accept the other consequences of the axiom. In this sense, mathematics is entirely subjective.

  2. Re:Science by AI on The End of Mathematical Proofs by Humans? · · Score: 1

    It is inevitable if you believe that human progress will continue indefinitely. Good science develops in many different directions simultaneously. Someone will always be taking a fresh look at something, and they may develop a new approach. At the very least, the human race is forced to consider new ideas because people die and we are constantly have to teach replacements.

  3. Re:Critics Reaction... on The End of Mathematical Proofs by Humans? · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Whether or not something is a proof is entirely our distinction to make. We choose the axioms on which the proof is based. To paraphrase Bill Klem (a famous umpire): when asked whether a pitch was a ball or a strike, "It isn't anything until I call it".

  4. Re:Creativity on The End of Mathematical Proofs by Humans? · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Without humans to drive the computers doing the work in the right directions, it could take a long time before a computer would be able to get its proof - it simply doesn't know what it is looking for.

    To some extent that's true, except in areas where human understanding has reduced mathematical proof to a mechanical process. For example, verifying algebraic identities, or even geometric proofs. A more advanced example is the Risch algorithm for elementary integration. It amounts to a proof that an integral either is or is not expressible in terms of elementary functions. Eventually we come to understand an area to such an extent that we can implement mechanical algorithms and move on. The proper role of the computer is to carry out these algorithms, so that we can use them to discover something else.

  5. Re:What about feigenbaum constant? on The End of Mathematical Proofs by Humans? · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I believe that Feigenbaum's constant was discovered with the aid of a programmable pocket calculator. He noticed something, and used the computer to check it out. I think that of all the things that computers can do for mathematicians, this is the most valuable. You can ask "what about this" and the computer will do the grunt work. It's made a grad student's life much easier I'm sure :)

  6. Re:Critics Reaction... on The End of Mathematical Proofs by Humans? · · Score: 1

    If it can't be checked, it's not really a "proof" is it ? Now granted, that leaves a lot of room for leaway. For example, one could construct an algorithm for the problem and then prove that the algorithm is correct. There are other more inventive possibilities too.

  7. Re:Science by AI on The End of Mathematical Proofs by Humans? · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well at least in regards to math, I stongly doubt that this will ever be the case. Mathematics is developed over decades and centuries. With a few notable exceptions, it doesn't just fall out of the sky in textbook form. Most areas of math started out as a giagantic mess (ex; calculus, linear algebra, even geometry), and it has taken the work of countless researchers, authors, and teachers to distill and refine it. This process will continue, and it is inevitable that the subjects which baffle us today will be hammered out and taught to grade school students eventually. Well developed theory makes mathematics easier, and this in turn fuels new discoveries.

  8. Re:IE & Opera Unaffected on Mozilla / Firefox Memory Exposure Vulnerability · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, it would be "New Critical IE Vulnerability" and it would be on the front page...

  9. Re:Human Intelligence is More than Speed on NNSA Supercomputer Breaks Computing Record · · Score: 1

    Hence, we can't interact with them too well.

    I leave that to my nets...

  10. Re:Well, yeah... on BeOS Ready for a Comeback as Zeta OS · · Score: 0

    Something must be off with your configuration. It should not take that long to boot or to login. Do you have a lot of programs loading at startup ?

  11. Re:So much for their corporate sales. on Best Buy to Eliminate Rebates · · Score: 1

    Are you serious ? The company purchased the item. The company is entitled to the rebate. As an employee, you have bought the item on behalf of your company, you are not entitled to take a "cut". What if people in the payroll department were taking a cut off your wages ? ie: the company's books say you make 20% more than you really do, but someone is just taking that money because they have the opportunity. Do you see it now ?

  12. Re:So much for their corporate sales. on Best Buy to Eliminate Rebates · · Score: 2, Informative

    It is totally unethical - it is a form of fraud. link.

  13. Re:America's Hesitation on Hacking Mac OS X · · Score: 1

    The Panasonic Toughbook beats any Apple notebook - half the weight and double the price :)

  14. Re:If you put a pig in a dress on Hack turns GIMP into Photoshop Look-alike · · Score: 1

    Damn, before reading what you actually quoted, I thought you were referring to the pigs.

  15. Re:Hit F5 on Computer Crash Reactions Examined · · Score: 1

    I'd rather just install Windows. It's a great threat for old machines.

  16. Re:Ah that's nuttin! on World's Smallest Linux Box Fits in RJ-45 Jack · · Score: 1

    And we wod them down for original thought!

  17. Re:Where, PA? on D&D Blamed For Stabbing Deaths · · Score: 1

    ...damn :)

  18. Re:Other causes of death on D&D Blamed For Stabbing Deaths · · Score: 1

    Tom and Jerry, The Simpsons, and shopping on Sunday ?

  19. Re:Where, PA? on D&D Blamed For Stabbing Deaths · · Score: 1

    Maybe that's the true reason for his killing spree: his town has a stupid name.

  20. Re:Gentoo users need to do more on Gentoo 2005.0 Released · · Score: 1

    The mods appearently think this doesn't happen, even though I know it does from first hand experience. Be careful changing your profile.

  21. No on Do Programmers Actually Use Assertions? · · Score: 1

    I write programs for algebra (in Maple). I never use assertions. The programs must work correctly for all valid input. Invalid input is caught with a type check, and an appropriate error is returned. Assertion failures can only frustrate users, who typically do not understand what is going wrong.

  22. Re:KDE 3.4 on Gentoo 2005.0 Released · · Score: 1

    I've always wanted to try Xfce, but it seems like underkill on a modern machine. What are your impressions of it ?

  23. Re:That's what I like about Gentoo... on Gentoo 2005.0 Released · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That's fine for a dedicated machine, but for a general purpose desktop it's a nightmare. I honestly think Gentoo is best suited to hobbyists.

  24. KDE 3.4 on Gentoo 2005.0 Released · · Score: 1

    I'm reinstalling Gentoo after some time away from it. Is KDE 3.4 in the default tree yet ?

  25. Re:Gentoo users need to do more on Gentoo 2005.0 Released · · Score: 0

    Then watch your system break if you were using a much older profile.