.... where Xerox marketed the Xerox Alto as the first commercial GUI driven computer in 1973? I'm guessing technology would have advanced to todays levels by the early 90s, MIcrosoft most likely wouldn't exist as the IBM PC would never have been developed, at least not in its initial form, and even Apple would probably have faded away after managing to sell a few "old fashioned" Apple I & 2s in the mid 70s.
But - would the 8bit home computers have existed? If not then the huge 80s influx of hobbyists into programming would never have happened.
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That tonal color is essentially just a low pass filter effect. Turn down the treble on your amp a notch and you'll get the same effect with a CD.
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Sure, you stick it to Intel. But this grand gesture then means you give twice the extra money you've have spent on an equivalent out-the-box CPU to some other faceless corp who provide overclocking kit and who may be just as venal and grasping as Intel/AMD/whoever. Plus you reduce the life of your CPU. *shrug*
You did rather set yourself up for it saying you compile distros all day. I mean, even for a nerd thats a bit of an odd thing to do. Once a week/month to rebuild a kernel sure, we've all done that at some point, but every day building entire distros? Why??
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Isn't that the truth! It reminds me of people who still claim that LPs sound better than CDs even though the LP stereo system is a hack that doesn't always reproduce phase properly and the audio before its recorded on an LP has go to through a compressor first to limit the amplitude because of physical restrictions in the offset of the groove and also the high frequency response is limited because the goove simply can't be machined to undulate enough accuratly enough to reproduce them especially at 33rpm closer to the centre of the record. But hey, its analogue so it must be better, right?
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[Sultry babe walks up] "Hello, and what do you do?"
[nasal voice] "I compile distros all day. Yes, did you know that Slackware on average compiles 20% faster than Debian for 64 bit but if I overclock my Core i7 by raising power rail voltage and tweeking the quantum flux capacitor.... hello, where are you going..hello? Hey, come back, did I mention its a 2600K? Hello?"
I think even most geeks think of overclockers as a little bit obsessive and kind of out there.
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... between a tiny bunch of geeks who had more money than sense. Someone should have told them that if they really wanted to play their first person shooter faster they should overclock the graphics card, not waste time on the CPU.
Yeah , I 'll get modded down for offending the high priest overclockers who read this, but really, if you spend 1000s on a special cooling system for your CPU just so it runs 25% faster so you can get even more unnoticable frames per second you really need to get out more.
Sure, you can all sorts of fun and games with the pre processor that just includes huge macros into a program to mimic OO, but that doesn't mean C itself natively supports it. Using that argument you could say C supports functional programming or horn clauses because you could get the preprocessor to #include a load of macros that appear to do it.
C can't do proper OO style classes so there are precisely zero in the linux kernel. Some function pointers to mimic methods and some hideous varags mashup to create a facsimile of polymorphism does not create a proper class. As for inheritence and auto constructors & destructors , good luck!
Wrt to learningCS , I had a CS degree while you were probably still dribbling babyfood over your dads 486 sonny.
C can't do proper OO classes so there are precisely zero in the linux kernel. Sure you can use structs and mangle something together with function pointers to simulate methods and varargs to knock up some hideous facsimile of polymorphism , but good luck with inheritence. As for having various auto constructors/destructors.... yeah well...
Wrt learning CS, I already had a CS degree while you were still dribbling babyfood over your dads 486.
Thanks for the heads up but I've done C++ for the last 15 years. A C struct is NOT the same as a C++ struct because it can't inherit and it doesn't have methods , only the option of function pointers, but thanks for playing.
And how would this magic malware manage to reflash the boot loader in the first place since it requires a hard reset and a 2nd device plugged into the USB port to do it?
"In this huge world with 7 billion people, every 3 minutes, about 600 die. (On average about 3 per second)."
So will you take that dispassionate viewpoint if your wife/gf/mother/father dropped dead suddenly?
"And our population growth is so fast that the 600 dead had been replaced (sorry for the dry factual choice of words) before the floods even hit the news."
So what , its still a tragic event for the people involved.
"But the harddrive problem affects the world, albeit in a modest way, for months"
Oh BS. The world will still turn if little johnny can't upgrade his HD to keep more porn on. Any serious business users will have plenty of drives in store anyway.
"n the USA, over 30,000 people die in vehicle accidents every year."
So what? Compare the amount of cars driving around to the number of aircraft in the sky each day and its a different story. There are a LOT more than 30x the number of cars on the road vs number of aircraft in the sky.
"how can you expect the software to behave properly"
Simple - it goes into failsafe mode or shuts down. It doesn't just accept whatever values it sees on the input as always valid. I do hope you only work on mickey mouse systems and arn't involved in aircraft or - god forbid - nuclear power plant control systems! With your approach to software there's no way I'd ever hire you for the role you say you're now in.
.... you don't even have a rough idea of how big the changes are , whether there will be compatability issues and so forth. I'm sure the coders have done a good job but whatever marketdroid imbecile thought that every new release must have a major version number markup should frankly be shot. And then forced to use IE 6 for the rest of his days.
Perhaps you should learn to read before replying. The fact that you post A/C probably means that even you know you're just spouting sh1t for the sake of it.
Well there's a well thought out argument. FWIW china hasn't been communist for over a decade now - its actually the closest thing to a capitalist dictatorship the world has right now.
"and because they are working hard to steal American jobs, American tech, and they are working hard to dominate American interests."
Oh right, so the chinese forced american companies to outsource all their menufacture to china did they? It had nothing to do with greedy CEOs wanting to save a quick buck and screw whatever US jobs it cost or what knock-on effect it may have on the economy just so they could "raise shareholder value" - and coincidentaly collect a fat bonus for doing it did it? And same CEOs having outsourced blue collar work are not happily outsourcing white collar work to india. I suppose thats the indians fault is it?
You need to look closer to home for the reason china is in the ascendent. I would say the USA has economically shot itself in the foot but its actually closer to having blown its entire leg off.
Unless I'm about to be promoted to a slashdot editor I suggest you read up on it too so you know what it actually is before you get you crayons out in an abortive attempt to be witty.
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.... where Xerox marketed the Xerox Alto as the first commercial GUI driven computer in 1973? I'm guessing technology would have advanced to todays levels by the early 90s, MIcrosoft most likely wouldn't exist as the IBM PC would never have been developed, at least not in its initial form, and even Apple would probably have faded away after managing to sell a few "old fashioned" Apple I & 2s in the mid 70s.
But - would the 8bit home computers have existed? If not then the huge 80s influx of hobbyists into programming would never have happened.
That tonal color is essentially just a low pass filter effect. Turn down the treble on your amp a notch and you'll get the same effect with a CD.
Sure, you stick it to Intel. But this grand gesture then means you give twice the extra money you've have spent on an equivalent out-the-box CPU to some other faceless corp who provide overclocking kit and who may be just as venal and grasping as Intel/AMD/whoever. Plus you reduce the life of your CPU. *shrug*
Oh dear. Someone's had a sense of humour bypass.
You did rather set yourself up for it saying you compile distros all day. I mean, even for a nerd thats a bit of an odd thing to do. Once a week/month to rebuild a kernel sure, we've all done that at some point, but every day building entire distros? Why??
Isn't that the truth! It reminds me of people who still claim that LPs sound better than CDs even though the LP stereo system is a hack that doesn't always reproduce phase properly and the audio before its recorded on an LP has go to through a compressor first to limit the amplitude because of physical restrictions in the offset of the groove and also the high frequency response is limited because the goove simply can't be machined to undulate enough accuratly enough to reproduce them especially at 33rpm closer to the centre of the record. But hey, its analogue so it must be better, right?
[Sultry babe walks up]
"Hello, and what do you do?"
[nasal voice]
"I compile distros all day. Yes, did you know that Slackware on average compiles 20% faster than Debian for 64 bit but if I overclock my Core i7 by raising power rail voltage and tweeking the quantum flux capacitor.... hello, where are you going..hello? Hey, come back, did I mention its a 2600K? Hello?"
I think even most geeks think of overclockers as a little bit obsessive and kind of out there.
... between a tiny bunch of geeks who had more money than sense. Someone should have told them that if they really wanted to play their first person shooter faster they should overclock the graphics card, not waste time on the CPU.
Yeah , I 'll get modded down for offending the high priest overclockers who read this, but really, if you spend 1000s on a special cooling system for your CPU just so it runs 25% faster so you can get even more unnoticable frames per second you really need to get out more.
"I didn't say it was."
You say the linux kernel has classes in it. It doesn't. A C struct is not and never will be any sort of class. Its a data structure, end of.
Sure, you can all sorts of fun and games with the pre processor that just includes huge macros into a program to mimic OO, but that doesn't mean C itself natively supports it. Using that argument you could say C supports functional programming or horn clauses because you could get the preprocessor to #include a load of macros that appear to do it.
C can't do proper OO style classes so there are precisely zero in the linux kernel. Some function pointers to mimic methods and some hideous varags mashup to create a facsimile of polymorphism does not create a proper class. As for inheritence and auto constructors & destructors , good luck!
Wrt to learningCS , I had a CS degree while you were probably still dribbling babyfood over your dads 486 sonny.
C can't do proper OO classes so there are precisely zero in the linux kernel. Sure you can use structs and mangle something together with function pointers to simulate methods and varargs to knock up some hideous facsimile of polymorphism , but good luck with inheritence. As for having various auto constructors/destructors.... yeah well...
Wrt learning CS, I already had a CS degree while you were still dribbling babyfood over your dads 486.
Thanks for the heads up but I've done C++ for the last 15 years. A C struct is NOT the same as a C++ struct because it can't inherit and it doesn't have methods , only the option of function pointers, but thanks for playing.
And how would this magic malware manage to reflash the boot loader in the first place since it requires a hard reset and a 2nd device plugged into the USB port to do it?
The linux kernel is written in C, not C++ so how did they manage that?
You try that again, this time in intelligable english?
Its just a metal compound that conducts under these conditions. As they say, it doesn't even change its structure.
"In this huge world with 7 billion people, every 3 minutes, about 600 die. (On average about 3 per second)."
So will you take that dispassionate viewpoint if your wife/gf/mother/father dropped dead suddenly?
"And our population growth is so fast that the 600 dead had been replaced (sorry for the dry factual choice of words) before the floods even hit the news."
So what , its still a tragic event for the people involved.
"But the harddrive problem affects the world, albeit in a modest way, for months"
Oh BS. The world will still turn if little johnny can't upgrade his HD to keep more porn on. Any serious business users will have plenty of drives in store anyway.
.. but hey, so long as hard drive prices are ok, then whats the problem?.
Really editors, get a fscking sense of perspective.
"n the USA, over 30,000 people die in vehicle accidents every year."
So what? Compare the amount of cars driving around to the number of aircraft in the sky each day and its a different story. There are a LOT more than 30x the number of cars on the road vs number of aircraft in the sky.
"how can you expect the software to behave properly"
Simple - it goes into failsafe mode or shuts down. It doesn't just accept whatever values it sees on the input as always valid. I do hope you only work on mickey mouse systems and arn't involved in aircraft or - god forbid - nuclear power plant control systems! With your approach to software there's no way I'd ever hire you for the role you say you're now in.
.... you don't even have a rough idea of how big the changes are , whether there will be compatability issues and so forth. I'm sure the coders have done a good job but whatever marketdroid imbecile thought that every new release must have a major version number markup should frankly be shot. And then forced to use IE 6 for the rest of his days.
Perhaps you should learn to read before replying. The fact that you post A/C probably means that even you know you're just spouting sh1t for the sake of it.
"don't like China because it is communist,"
Well there's a well thought out argument. FWIW china hasn't been communist for over a decade now - its actually the closest thing to a capitalist dictatorship the world has right now.
"and because they are working hard to steal American jobs, American tech, and they are working hard to dominate American interests."
Oh right, so the chinese forced american companies to outsource all their menufacture to china did they? It had nothing to do with greedy CEOs wanting to save a quick buck and screw whatever US jobs it cost or what knock-on effect it may have on the economy just so they could "raise shareholder value" - and coincidentaly collect a fat bonus for doing it did it? And same CEOs having outsourced blue collar work are not happily outsourcing white collar work to india. I suppose thats the indians fault is it?
You need to look closer to home for the reason china is in the ascendent. I would say the USA has economically shot itself in the foot but its actually closer to having blown its entire leg off.
Unless I'm about to be promoted to a slashdot editor I suggest you read up on it too so you know what it actually is before you get you crayons out in an abortive attempt to be witty.