explorer.exe is a shell program. Do try and learn the difference between that and a GUI. You can still have a Graphical User Interface (understand what that means?) - buttons, drop down menus, cut and paste etc - without the shell even running. Try it if you don't believe me. And if you can't understand that simple concept then stay away from computers since you're obviously clueless.
Window management, users controls and controlling the mouse IS the GUI you clueless fuckwit. As I said - go learn something instead of just cut and pasting stuff you clearly don't understand.
No it isn't, thats just the program that runs the task bar and displays icons. The GUI is what draws the windows, buttons etc.
"If you don't believe me, start Task Manager and kill the explorer.exe process."
Do the open applications disappear? No. Does the mouse point disappear? No.
"The point is, the GUI in Windows is just an application on top of a shell."
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. The GUI is a core OS component, its NOT an application. Why don't you go and learn something before you make an even bigger idiot of yourself.
"They've matured enough to now acknowledge they don't need a GUI"
Arguably they've simply returned back to the level of CLI functionality they had - then threw away - with Xenix. If MS had stuck with that OS and developed it as much as Windows has been developed since its initial incarnation then who knows how much more advanced its offerings would be today.
"In Windows Server 8, users can transition between Server Core and Server Graphical Shell at any time, with a single command and a single reboot."
Don't they EVER learn? It took them literally years to be able to do application and driver installs without required endless reboots. Not poor windows admins need to reboot just to start the GUI?? Why on earth can't MS come up with the equivalent of "xinit" to kick off the GUI?? This is 1980s level functionality FFS!
Don't be an ass all your life. Words don't only have a meaning in the strict mathematical sense or did you think that when someone for example says "negative effect" it literally meant an effect less than zero or when someone says "positive spin" it means spinning something clockwise?
"his is why I live in cycling distance and 25km/day is good for my health"
Good for your heart maybe, not so much for your lungs deep breathing in all those PM10s from diesel vehicles. Drivers will be breathing the same air but they're not breathing heavily so the particles don't go down so far and get lodged.
"I wonder if there will be enough room for DB and Thalys trains to run from Cologne or Paris right through to Manchester."
Yup - HS2 is being built to UIC loading gauge so as long as they have the foresight to link up to HS1 that should be physically possible. Whether the company running HS2 will allow it or try and charge foreign operators silly money for track access is another matter of course.
If germany hadn't been defeated do you think Hitler would have stopped at the atlantic? The nazis and the japanese would invaded and nicely carved up the USA so you'd probably have bullet trains running across your country by now and be eating at McSushi.
None of us really recognise our recorded voice as our own even though we know it is so I guess thats not much of a surprise especially given that 30 years has passed in his case too. I'd be interested to know what Hawkings internal voice in his head sounds like - is it his original voice or is it his speech synthesizer?
"asking why someone uses a 30 year old electronic device when newer and therefore likely more capable options exist"
You should be asking - why someone WOULDN'T use a 30 year old device when it does everything they need it to do. Not everyone thinks upgrading for the sake of it is a worthwhile pursuit especially if its as critical as your only means to communicate.
And its no different to mail order which my housebound granny used to use all the time. Some of us LIKE going out and actually buying stuff on the spot, not having to wait 2 days for it to be chucked over the wall by some minimum wage fed-ex grunt.
"turning off your mobile phone. But in this time and day, this solution seems akin to telling people to stop using email to 'opt out' from spam or to stop eating foods to 'opt out' of food poisoning."
Is it? I have an old style dumbphone which I hardly ever have switched on. Its mainly just for me to make outgoing calls. If someone needs to contact me they can try my landline at home or work or else send a text or leave a voicemail and I'll pick it up later. I didn't need to be contactable 24/7 20 years ago and I don't need to be now. Only a fool lets technology rule their life rather than just being a tool.
... what makes you think people will bother learning and using an even more complicated electronic system? Non univerisity library users (generally) tend to be the older generation. They don't have the ooo-shiny! approach to computers so if its a hassle they won't use it. End of.
Err, riiight. You do realise that the Alto and its GUI did exist in 1973 but was only used internally to Xerox and never made available to the general public don't you? Are you some apple fanboy who thinks the GUI arrived with the apple mac?
... in the same way as consoles. Sell the hardware for less than cost price and make up the difference on the software. People are more likely to spend money when they've already made an investment. Its getting them to part with money in the first place thats the hard part.
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explorer.exe is a shell program. Do try and learn the difference between that and a GUI. You can still have a Graphical User Interface (understand what that means?) - buttons, drop down menus, cut and paste etc - without the shell even running. Try it if you don't believe me. And if you can't understand that simple concept then stay away from computers since you're obviously clueless.
Window management, users controls and controlling the mouse IS the GUI you clueless fuckwit. As I said - go learn something instead of just cut and pasting stuff you clearly don't understand.
"he GUI in windows is just an application on top of a shell. If you don't know that, then shut up"
So why does it require a reboot to start "just an application" then genius?
Take your time...
"The GUI in Windows is called explorer.exe "
No it isn't, thats just the program that runs the task bar and displays icons. The GUI is what draws the windows, buttons etc.
"If you don't believe me, start Task Manager and kill the explorer.exe process."
Do the open applications disappear? No. Does the mouse point disappear? No.
"The point is, the GUI in Windows is just an application on top of a shell."
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. The GUI is a core OS component, its NOT an application. Why don't you go and learn something before you make an even bigger idiot of yourself.
"Novell, UNIX, VMS, MVS, OS/400,"
Don't forget Cisco.
"They've matured enough to now acknowledge they don't need a GUI"
Arguably they've simply returned back to the level of CLI functionality they had - then threw away - with Xenix. If MS had stuck with that OS and developed it as much as Windows has been developed since its initial incarnation then who knows how much more advanced its offerings would be today.
FTA:
"In Windows Server 8, users can transition between Server Core and Server Graphical Shell at any time, with a single command and a single reboot."
Don't they EVER learn? It took them literally years to be able to do application and driver installs without required endless reboots. Not poor windows admins need to reboot just to start the GUI?? Why on earth can't MS come up with the equivalent of "xinit" to kick off the GUI?? This is 1980s level functionality FFS!
And with that goes blaming everyone except yourself for your public failures.
Don't be an ass all your life. Words don't only have a meaning in the strict mathematical sense or did you think that when someone for example says "negative effect" it literally meant an effect less than zero or when someone says "positive spin" it means spinning something clockwise?
Imbecile.
"his is why I live in cycling distance and 25km/day is good for my health"
Good for your heart maybe, not so much for your lungs deep breathing in all those PM10s from diesel vehicles. Drivers will be breathing the same air but they're not breathing heavily so the particles don't go down so far and get lodged.
"I wonder if there will be enough room for DB and Thalys trains to run from Cologne or Paris right through to Manchester."
Yup - HS2 is being built to UIC loading gauge so as long as they have the foresight to link up to HS1 that should be physically possible. Whether the company running HS2 will allow it or try and charge foreign operators silly money for track access is another matter of course.
I think he knows exactly what it means unlike you and I agree with him.
If germany hadn't been defeated do you think Hitler would have stopped at the atlantic? The nazis and the japanese would invaded and nicely carved up the USA so you'd probably have bullet trains running across your country by now and be eating at McSushi.
None of us really recognise our recorded voice as our own even though we know it is so I guess thats not much of a surprise especially given that 30 years has passed in his case too. I'd be interested to know what Hawkings internal voice in his head sounds like - is it his original voice or is it his speech synthesizer?
"asking why someone uses a 30 year old electronic device when newer and therefore likely more capable options exist"
You should be asking - why someone WOULDN'T use a 30 year old device when it does everything they need it to do. Not everyone thinks upgrading for the sake of it is a worthwhile pursuit especially if its as critical as your only means to communicate.
So why the surprise that he still uses the DECTalk?
In this case if it is broke then someone probably will fix it.
And its no different to mail order which my housebound granny used to use all the time. Some of us LIKE going out and actually buying stuff on the spot, not having to wait 2 days for it to be chucked over the wall by some minimum wage fed-ex grunt.
"turning off your mobile phone. But in this time and day, this solution seems akin to telling people to stop using email to 'opt out' from spam or to stop eating foods to 'opt out' of food poisoning."
Is it? I have an old style dumbphone which I hardly ever have switched on. Its mainly just for me to make outgoing calls. If someone needs to contact me they can try my landline at home or work or else send a text or leave a voicemail and I'll pick it up later. I didn't need to be contactable 24/7 20 years ago and I don't need to be now. Only a fool lets technology rule their life rather than just being a tool.
... what makes you think people will bother learning and using an even more complicated electronic system? Non univerisity library users (generally) tend to be the older generation. They don't have the ooo-shiny! approach to computers so if its a hassle they won't use it. End of.
"The arab world is rather unpredictable right now. If the US shoots first, that will turn all these regime changes against the US in a heartbeat."
Not necessarily. The iranians are persian, not arab, and the arab world has about as much love for them as it does for the US.
Apparently not very well in that case given that I work in IT.
...its pretty unlikely I'd have seen them.
Am I the only person who's never heard of either of them?
Err, riiight. You do realise that the Alto and its GUI did exist in 1973 but was only used internally to Xerox and never made available to the general public don't you? Are you some apple fanboy who thinks the GUI arrived with the apple mac?
... in the same way as consoles. Sell the hardware for less than cost price and make up the difference on the software. People are more likely to spend money when they've already made an investment. Its getting them to part with money in the first place thats the hard part.
"availability of really cheap microprocessors. GUI's don't enable either."
No , but they may have provided extra impetus. Back in the 70s and early 80s CPU speed increases year on year were pretty modest.