"Not only would the computer be aware like we are"
Not necessarily , since we don't know how aware ness arises in the first place. Conciousness isn't necessarily an emergent property of complexity itself, more likely it emerges on when a certain type of complexity starts "processing" in a certain way. After all, the most complex supercomputers already have the complexity of invertabrates , but have all the awareness of a rock.
I worked on a 64bit OSF/1 from DEC back in 1994 when MS was still fannying around with 16bit and I suspect other devlopers worked on 64 bit (or larger system) long before that. In the big boys world this is nothing new and any unix coder worth their salt should have been taking 64 bit into account for th last decade anyway.
I should learn tolerance? Says the man who says being called british is offensive? Sorry , I just get sick you lot north of the border whinging. I bet you're not offended to be british when the government hands you those fat subsidies paid for by the english & welsh taxpayers.
Actualy calling alot of Us Scotts brittish is pretty offensive for some of us , we are rather proud of being scottish
You might want to learn how to spelt "scots" and "brittish" before you pretend to be something you're not. And if you really are an example of scottish education it explains a lot.
I dual boot a 4.6 install with my linux install. My home dir is in ext2 format and I'm always worried when working under BSD that something in my home dir will corrupt (since the BSD developer(s) warn their ext2 driver is not 100% kosher) so I tend to do only small amounts of work in it. Does anyone know if the ext2/ext3 support is now rock solid or is that still on their to-do list?
"Many people don't want to be the 235,523th to create an MP3 player."
I think you mean "Many people don't want to call out to an mp3 API written by someone else who did all the hard work". If so many people in your school can understand and implement the actual MP3 algorithms then you must be attending a special undercover college of geniuses.
"There's a tremendous feeling of achievement there you could never get by mere copying."
And no ones ever tried to run linux on some inappropriate gadget before. Nope , this is a totally unique achievment. *cough*
Theres a story that someone tried to extort or hack (not sure) a russian gambling website once. Unfortunately it was run by the russian mafia and apparently the hacker was tracked down and executed. The story may be apocryphal but knowing what russia is like it could easily be true.
Re:Exceptions. Big deal. Just glorified gotos.
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Exception handling is a no brainer solution to hard problems. DOn't know what to do with this error? Oh lets just do a goto back up to some higher function and hope for the best. Gimme a break.
A computer program isn't a work of art. Its solution to a problem and should be made as efficient and quick as possible for the users. Its attitudes like yours that have given rise to the sluggish crap that passes for software today.
No doubt this will get modded down by some pimply faced moderator straight out of 00 101, but i does make me laugh when on the one hand people extoll the virtues of exceptions but on the other damning others who uses gotos. If they had a clue about programming paradigms they'd realise they're pretty much the same thing and can both lead to a type of sphagetti code where you cant easily follow the flow of control.
You'd have needed a supercomputer just to run a hello world program. Sorry to burst your bubble but C became big because it was fast, flexible and could code to the metal. WHen you're working with an 8 bit 4Mhz processor thats a *teensy* bit more important than having a design framework for your program that you could have impressed other fellow Ivory Tower inhabitants with when the wind wasn't blowing from the direction of Smalltalk Island. In fact if people still bothered to write efficient code as opposed to code that ticks all the design pattern boxes we might not need GHz processors to run a friggin word processor!
The firewall can't change the actual IP address you're connecting from. If it did you'd never get any packets coming back to you from the IRC server. The "host" is a string passed in the IRC "USER" command at login, a 2 year old could fake that.
Phones arn't exactlt overpowered at the moment , are interpreted (or bytecode) languages really a good idea? Whats next , Phone Prolog?
>You remember granny? YES >Dial her NO >Please.. NO >DO IT! NO >You *&(*&(*& piece of &^&^ , call yourself a smartphone??:- Invalid predicate >*sigh* Bring back java NO!!
Enterprise was just a tired old rehash of everything thats gone before in star trek. It had precisely zero new ideas or concepts and should never have been brought to the screen in the first place without a serious rethink by the writers. Perhaps now this 3rd rate Me Too series has been binned the money can be spent on some original sci-fi (though I won't hold my breath).
Doesn't matter, its an airship. All the propellors have to do is keep it in position, they don't have to provide the power to keep it aloft as they do in aircraft.
Right now it wouldn't matter if one got shot down by a terrorist rocket. But what happens if in the future these things are am important backbone component of all types of communications? Something that large could possibly be a sitting duck. I'm pretty sure that at the moment anti aircraft rockets can't get that high , but thats not to say in the future someone wouldn't develop one that could and if Osamas decendents get hold of some there could be serious problems.
"Seventeen tries to get Captive NTFS working just once is insane. And when I ask why it isn't, the most helpful answer I get should not be that I am too stupid to understand what the doc writer was implying"
Could be worse, at least you weren't given some petulant message along the lines of "well no ones stopping you going and writing your own driver!" that I've had when pointing out that perhaps something didn't work in a 100% logical fashion. The people who write open source and smart and do put in a lot of effort for not much return , but being stroppy and juvenile about valid issues doesn't help their cause one bit.
What do you think the astronauts were breathing in their capsule? Sure , it might not have had the exact mix of gases of earths atmosphere but it mixed with O2 which is the most reactive gas in our atmosphere and if it doesn't react with that I don't think anyone will be losing too much sleep over what happens if you mix it with nitrogen or argon. As for it not being in contact with the lungs , well how do you think the astronauts smelt it without beathing in? Perhaps you should read the article first hmm?
This is getting crazy , why do software companies and open source developers keep spewing out endless video codecs. We don't keep seeing alternatives to TCP popping up every week, why is video so different? WHat the hell is wrong with mpeg anyway??
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"Not only would the computer be aware like we are"
Not necessarily , since we don't know how aware ness arises in the first place. Conciousness isn't necessarily an emergent property of complexity itself, more likely it emerges on when a certain type of complexity starts "processing" in a certain way. After all, the most complex supercomputers already have the complexity of invertabrates , but have all the awareness of a rock.
"We are now an interstellar species."
Not really. Thats a bit like calling an ape who chucks a stone into the sea aquatic.
...at least they'll be able to do a quick search and find it easily if it gets lost and goes missing!
"but Liam often sounds like he's got a potato in his mouth."
No , but he's got a potato for a brain.
I worked on a 64bit OSF/1 from DEC back in 1994 when MS was still fannying around with 16bit and I suspect other devlopers worked on 64 bit (or larger system) long before that. In the big boys world this is nothing new and any unix coder worth their salt should have been taking 64 bit into account for th last decade anyway.
I should learn tolerance? Says the man who says being called british is offensive? Sorry , I just get sick you lot north of the border whinging. I bet you're not offended to be british when the government hands you those fat subsidies paid for by the english & welsh taxpayers.
Actualy calling alot of Us Scotts brittish is pretty offensive for some of us , we are rather proud of being scottish
You might want to learn how to spelt "scots" and "brittish" before you pretend to be something you're not. And if you really are an example of scottish education it explains a lot.
I dual boot a 4.6 install with my linux install. My home dir is in ext2 format and I'm always worried when working under BSD that something in my home dir will corrupt (since the BSD developer(s) warn their ext2 driver is not 100% kosher) so I tend to do only small amounts of work in it. Does anyone know if the ext2/ext3 support is now rock solid or is that still on their to-do list?
Err , but it will if put in neutral which is the equivalent of taking an auto out of park. Duh.
"Many people don't want to be the 235,523th to create an MP3 player."
I think you mean "Many people don't want to call out to an mp3 API written by someone else who did all the hard work". If so many people in your school can understand and implement the actual MP3 algorithms then you must be attending a special undercover college of geniuses.
"There's a tremendous feeling of achievement there you could never get by mere copying."
And no ones ever tried to run linux on some inappropriate gadget before. Nope , this is a totally unique achievment. *cough*
Theres a story that someone tried to extort or hack (not sure) a russian gambling website once.
Unfortunately it was run by the russian mafia and apparently the hacker was tracked down and executed. The story may be apocryphal but knowing what russia is like it could easily be true.
Exception handling is a no brainer solution to hard problems. DOn't know what to do with this error? Oh lets just do a goto back up to some higher function and hope for the best. Gimme a break.
A computer program isn't a work of art. Its solution to a problem and should be made as efficient and quick as possible for the users. Its attitudes like yours that have given rise to the sluggish crap that passes for software today.
No doubt this will get modded down by some pimply faced moderator straight out of 00 101, but i does make me laugh when on the one hand people extoll the virtues of exceptions but on the other damning others who uses gotos. If they had a clue about programming paradigms they'd realise they're pretty much the same thing and can both lead to a type of sphagetti code where you cant easily follow the flow of control.
You'd have needed a supercomputer just to run a hello world program. Sorry to burst your bubble but C became big because it was fast, flexible and could code to the metal. WHen you're working with an 8 bit 4Mhz processor thats a *teensy* bit more important than having a design framework for your program that you could have impressed other fellow Ivory Tower inhabitants with when the wind wasn't blowing from the direction of Smalltalk Island. In fact if people still bothered to write efficient code as opposed to code that ticks all the design pattern boxes we might not need GHz processors to run a friggin word processor!
The firewall can't change the actual IP address you're connecting from. If it did you'd never get any packets coming back to you from the IRC server. The "host" is a string passed in the
IRC "USER" command at login, a 2 year old could fake that.
"hostname. it really irritates the ops when they ban you and you come back with one of their hostnames."
If they had half a brain they'd just check your IP address and/or network and then do two plus two
equals four...
Phones arn't exactlt overpowered at the moment , are interpreted (or bytecode) languages really a good idea? Whats next , Phone Prolog?
:- Invalid predicate
>You remember granny?
YES
>Dial her
NO
>Please..
NO
>DO IT!
NO
>You *&(*&(*& piece of &^&^ , call yourself a smartphone??
>*sigh* Bring back java
NO!!
Enterprise was just a tired old rehash of everything thats gone before in star trek. It had precisely zero new ideas or concepts and should never have been brought to the screen in the first place without a serious rethink by the writers. Perhaps now this 3rd rate Me Too series has been binned the money can be spent on some original sci-fi (though I won't hold my breath).
Doesn't matter, its an airship. All the propellors have to do is keep it in position, they don't have to provide the power to keep it aloft as they do in aircraft.
Right now it wouldn't matter if one got shot down by a terrorist rocket. But what happens if in the future these things are am important backbone component of all types of communications? Something that large could possibly be a sitting duck. I'm pretty sure that at the moment anti aircraft rockets can't get that high , but thats not to say in the future someone wouldn't develop one that could and if Osamas decendents get hold of some there could be serious problems.
"Seventeen tries to get Captive NTFS working just once is insane. And when I ask why it isn't, the most helpful answer I get should not be that I am too stupid to understand what the doc writer was implying"
Could be worse, at least you weren't given some petulant message along the lines of "well no ones stopping you going and writing your own driver!" that I've had when pointing out that perhaps something didn't work in a 100% logical fashion. The people who write open source and smart and do put in a lot of effort for not much return , but being stroppy and juvenile about valid issues doesn't help their cause one bit.
Thameslink switches over from overhead to 3rd rail at Farringdon.
What do you think the astronauts were breathing in their capsule? Sure , it might not have had the exact mix of gases of earths atmosphere but it mixed with O2 which is the most reactive gas in our atmosphere and if it doesn't react with that I don't think anyone will be losing too much sleep over what happens if you mix it with nitrogen or argon. As for it not being in contact with the lungs , well how do you think the astronauts smelt it without beathing in? Perhaps you should read the article first hmm?
This is getting crazy , why do software companies and open source developers keep spewing out endless video codecs. We don't keep seeing alternatives to TCP popping up every week, why is video so different? WHat the hell is wrong with mpeg anyway??