Musk is a businessman first, nerd second. And this is a site for nerds - nerds most of whome probably drive and can see the huge number of situations in which a self drive car is going to exhibit behaviour very very far from the optimal, all of which have been mentioned in other posts so I won't re-iterate. If you want to swallow the musk kool aid thats up to you, but those of us who see beyond the blantant marketeering and angling for investment cash might hold off on the congrats for a while.
You don't "send for your family" if they're in the middle of a fucking war zone you brainless gimp! You take them with you and while walking across hills and being in a boat might be dangerous its not as dangerous as being shelled day and night!
Jesus christ get a clue and try thinking for yourself instead of parroting the delusional right-on groupthink you dribbling halfwit.
Isn't it odd how as a percentage there are so few women, children and old people along with these 20 something male "refugees". Now either the demographics are so screwed in their countries that most of the population is 20 something males, or they're cowards who fled and left their families behind, or just maybe they're not refugees at all but uneducated economic migrants who have nothing to give but plenty to take.
Meanwhile you're just another comfortable pseudo intellectual liberal idiot who has no clue about real life. I would pity you and your kind except you're the reason for a lot of the problems in germany and the rest of europe at the moment.
Neither is being in denial. There are enough eye witness testimonies of north africans who didn't speak german so unless all these witnesses are liars I would suggest its you who needs to check out his brain function.
"They most certainly should get credit for writing that software and enabling very specific research since in many cases without the software the research would not even exist."
Without many other things the research wouldn't exist either. Unless the software or its authors came up with the idea of the original research or had some hand in how it was conducted then they have no business being on the paper and just because some piece of software is a one off doesn't change this in the slightest.
Perhaps the guy who built The Globe should take some credit for Shakespears plays? No? Why not? Without him building somewhere for the plays to be performed its doubtful shakespear would have even written half of them.
"Rather, the point they are making is that being the (co-)author of such a software should count as much as being the (co-)author a paper, with regard to getting tenure, or for general performance reviews within academia."
Why? The software is a tool. The software authors had nothing to do with the original research undertaken by the scientists. You might as well make the programmers of MS Word that the paper was written on co-authors too. Its absurd.
Unless its freeware the guy gets paid for writing the stuff so he can't complain and if it is freeware then that was his choice to do it. He can't co-opt someone elses plaudits just because he created a tool they used.
If you really believe that then perhaps you think the company that built the power sockets or the desk or made the PC motherboard should also get a mention? Where does it end? We all use things invented and built by others to do our jobs.
A steam engine?? Its one of the most inefficient engines types ever designed. You have to put a huge amount of energy in to get water up to boiling point before you can get any useful energy out and most of the rest of what you do put in is lost as heat before it can do any useful work anyway.
The steam engine was fine in an era with plentiful coal when no one cared about any kind of pollution , never mind greenhouse gases, but in the 21st century its a complete non starter.
... that comes out of the back of even new diesel vehicles on hard acceleration tells you all you need to know about how clean diesel really is. Yes, it emits less CO2 per mile than petrol/gasoline for the equivalent power output but thats where its enviromental credentials end.
If you RTFA it seems their sample size was 20 programmers. Occasionally they went up to 100 and they're getting something like 60-80% accuracy. BFD.
Guys - when you've sampled the compiled, optimised binary output (with all debug info stripped) of a million coders all using different compilers on different architectures and are getting at least a 99% accuracy rate, get back to us. In the meantime, I'm sure you'll get some nice marks from your supervisors but I won't be losing any sleep.
Obviously there are exceptions like wax cylinders and stone tablets, but in general if a medium is cheap and/or does a job thats not easily or cheaply replicated elsewhere it'll stick around. As soon as the Next Thing comes along certain people always predict the demise of that which its superceding. Cassette was supposed to kill vinyl. It didn't. Ditto CDs, they didn't. MP3s were supposed to kill CDs and cassettes. They didn't. Streaming - we are told - is the end of downloads. Yeah, right. DVD killed VHS? No it didn't - not until set top box recorders came along to fill in that functionality. Automatic gearboxes were the death knell of manual transmissions. Oh really? Now driverless cars will be the end of human driven cars. No, don't think so.
Anyone who predicts the end of anything without waiting a few decades is an idiot.
"This is irrelevant to the physical information content of the system."
So you can't. Well we got there in the end.
" It is basically just the log of the number of possible states the system is in."
Thats not even information since it'll be exactly the same for every similar particle or group of particles in a given enviroment. Its like saying "The colour of a black box is black".
Did you pull all that out your backside? Newsflash - you can't go back in time, whether you can mathematically or not is irrelevant. Even mathematically you can just add a modulo function and then its forwards only.
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Musk is a businessman first, nerd second. And this is a site for nerds - nerds most of whome probably drive and can see the huge number of situations in which a self drive car is going to exhibit behaviour very very far from the optimal, all of which have been mentioned in other posts so I won't re-iterate. If you want to swallow the musk kool aid thats up to you, but those of us who see beyond the blantant marketeering and angling for investment cash might hold off on the congrats for a while.
"No, you send for your family once you have an established, safer route and enough money to pay for it. "
Oh man, are you really this dumb or is it an act? Unbelievable.
"You're like a creationist"
Says the man so wedded to his left wing social justice dogma and groupthink he can't even see the trees , never mind the wood. Spot any similarities?
"you're trying to prove that desperate people are all monsters simply because of some superficial differences you perceive."
I'd give the straw men a miss, you no good at it. You poor deluded individual.
Emotion? Try reading the facts about what happened on NYE in Cologne. Or maybe keep your head buried up your arse where its nice and warm eh?
You don't "send for your family" if they're in the middle of a fucking war zone you brainless gimp! You take them with you and while walking across hills and being in a boat might be dangerous its not as dangerous as being shelled day and night!
Jesus christ get a clue and try thinking for yourself instead of parroting the delusional right-on groupthink you dribbling halfwit.
I'm not american, I'm british and I've lived in mainland europe. Sorry, you were saying?
"Yes, they are refugees."
Isn't it odd how as a percentage there are so few women, children and old people along with these 20 something male "refugees". Now either the demographics are so screwed in their countries that most of the population is 20 something males, or they're cowards who fled and left their families behind, or just maybe they're not refugees at all but uneducated economic migrants who have nothing to give but plenty to take.
Meanwhile you're just another comfortable pseudo intellectual liberal idiot who has no clue about real life. I would pity you and your kind except you're the reason for a lot of the problems in germany and the rest of europe at the moment.
Neither is being in denial. There are enough eye witness testimonies of north africans who didn't speak german so unless all these witnesses are liars I would suggest its you who needs to check out his brain function.
"There wasn't a mob of 1000 men. There were a lot of drunks and small groups taking advantage of the anonymity inbetween"
How do you manage to breathe with your head so far up your arse?
I don't know where God is , but I do know the Devil is in the details with this sort of thing.
"This is a horrible comparison. Shakespeare could have done his plays in any theater."
And the people doing the research could have probably done it in Matlab given enough time. Your point is?
"They most certainly should get credit for writing that software and enabling very specific research since in many cases without the software the research would not even exist."
Without many other things the research wouldn't exist either. Unless the software or its authors came up with the idea of the original research or had some hand in how it was conducted then they have no business being on the paper and just because some piece of software is a one off doesn't change this in the slightest.
Perhaps the guy who built The Globe should take some credit for Shakespears plays? No? Why not? Without him building somewhere for the plays to be performed its doubtful shakespear would have even written half of them.
"Rather, the point they are making is that being the (co-)author of such a software should count as much as being the (co-)author a paper, with regard to getting tenure, or for general performance reviews within academia."
Why? The software is a tool. The software authors had nothing to do with the original research undertaken by the scientists. You might as well make the programmers of MS Word that the paper was written on co-authors too. Its absurd.
Unless its freeware the guy gets paid for writing the stuff so he can't complain and if it is freeware then that was his choice to do it. He can't co-opt someone elses plaudits just because he created a tool they used.
If you really believe that then perhaps you think the company that built the power sockets or the desk or made the PC motherboard should also get a mention? Where does it end? We all use things invented and built by others to do our jobs.
A steam engine is generally taken to mean an external combustion engine that boils water to drive pistons. Thats not the same as a steam turbine.
A steam engine?? Its one of the most inefficient engines types ever designed. You have to put a huge amount of energy in to get water up to boiling point before you can get any useful energy out and most of the rest of what you do put in is lost as heat before it can do any useful work anyway.
The steam engine was fine in an era with plentiful coal when no one cared about any kind of pollution , never mind greenhouse gases, but in the 21st century its a complete non starter.
"Funny, I've never seen ANY kind of visible smoke coming out of my new diesel sedan, even under hard revving"
Thats because you're at the front driving it.
... that comes out of the back of even new diesel vehicles on hard acceleration tells you all you need to know about how clean diesel really is. Yes, it emits less CO2 per mile than petrol/gasoline for the equivalent power output but thats where its enviromental credentials end.
No one is forcing you to use said private companies services. Don't like terms and conditions? Stay away.
If you RTFA it seems their sample size was 20 programmers. Occasionally they went up to 100 and they're getting something like 60-80% accuracy. BFD.
Guys - when you've sampled the compiled, optimised binary output (with all debug info stripped) of a million coders all using different compilers on different architectures and are getting at least a 99% accuracy rate, get back to us. In the meantime, I'm sure you'll get some nice marks from your supervisors but I won't be losing any sleep.
Obviously there are exceptions like wax cylinders and stone tablets, but in general if a medium is cheap and/or does a job thats not easily or cheaply replicated elsewhere it'll stick around. As soon as the Next Thing comes along certain people always predict the demise of that which its superceding. Cassette was supposed to kill vinyl. It didn't. Ditto CDs, they didn't. MP3s were supposed to kill CDs and cassettes. They didn't. Streaming - we are told - is the end of downloads. Yeah, right. DVD killed VHS? No it didn't - not until set top box recorders came along to fill in that functionality. Automatic gearboxes were the death knell of manual transmissions. Oh really? Now driverless cars will be the end of human driven cars. No, don't think so.
Anyone who predicts the end of anything without waiting a few decades is an idiot.
"This is irrelevant to the physical information content of the system."
So you can't. Well we got there in the end.
" It is basically just the log of the number of possible states the system is in."
Thats not even information since it'll be exactly the same for every similar particle or group of particles in a given enviroment. Its like saying "The colour of a black box is black".
Ironic comment coming from someone who can't spell a-r-s-ehole.
Really? Explain how you'd retrieve the velocity, direction and spin state of the original particles from the light created by the collision then.
Did you pull all that out your backside? Newsflash - you can't go back in time, whether you can mathematically or not is irrelevant. Even mathematically you can just add a modulo function and then its forwards only.