But its buried beneath 100 miles of ice. If they're expecting to find some trace of life in some trace of water vapour that may or may not have been ejected near where the probe lands in the few days before any DNA or proteins would be destroyed by the hard vacuum and radiation then I think its wishful thinking at best. At worst a waste of multi billion dollars when it could be spent on other more fruitful missions. Another probe to Titan that could travel around and examine the lakes and atmosphere would be far more worth while.
Its been tried - it doesn't work very well. eg in orphanages and certain 60s cults. Children want their own parents, they don't want to share some unrelated strangers with 50 other kids. Human nature tends to get in the way of most of these types of hippy social experiments working.
In most religions its a womans "duty" to have as many kids as possible regardless of the effects upon her health. "Go forth and multiply" was one of the biggest pieces of social propaganda ever divised.
Because the tech isn't perfected yet. And I don't expect someone as blinked as you to have the vision to see it - but if fully flexible suit able to lift hundreds of kilos or even tons would be far more useful in a lot of work enviroments than some inflexible fork lft or mini digger that can't even climb a single stair.
Even olympic powerlifters would struggle trying to hold 50kg in one hand at arms length for long , if at all, so don't sneer. Its a prototype - once they've got the design details sorted I'm sure they'll ramp up the torque.
Ok, I don't understand how bitcoin works, but ultimately they're just encryped hash files on a disk, right? So unless the other person spends them before you do and you have a backup, how can they be stolen?
They'll have to use some pretty strong casing on these things if they want to use them in cars because if they leaked in a crash things could get really nasty as free sulphur burns quite easily and creates SO2 which would kill or severely cripple anyone trapped nearby quite quickly.
Regulations will probably still mandate having a pilot on board even if he doesn't fly it. In which case they might as well take the money, buy a helicopter in the first place and then a couple of Bentleys with the change.
"Police are armed, but that doesn't make them "armed forces""
Given that any police force today would comprehensively outgun any armed forces around in the 18th century when the US constituation was written, the point is simply semantics and rather moot.
The only people who don't realise it are its developers. If an OS can't gain traction in a quarter of a century it never will. Also the hype about message passing microkernels died a decade back. They look great on paper but in theory they're slow and inefficient.
"Once that platform is complete, everyone else can throw their own interfaces and such on top of it."
"Well, I am always willing to learn more about US culture, and if that, a district of detached houses with lawns and garages, was a lower class area the US is wealthier than I thought"
Most US houses are made of cheap chipboard and land is cheap outside of the cities. The fact that the buildings look nice to you obviously means that US builders can do their job properly whereas the ones in your country apparently can't.
"And these problems cannot be solved by stopping any such research. Or you would have had a country with lots of problems and not even a space program for that matter"
ITYF all western countries that have space programs have a basic healthy standard of living amongst their population. They don' t have tens of millions of people without clean water and infested with disease.
India also has a space program, a huge IT industry and a middle class that is larger than the population of the US. India could sort a lot of its problems out but it can't be bothered - it would sooner spend the money on pointless rockets and nuclear weapons. The country is a disgrace.
Don't look for logic in these sorts of aquisitions anymore - its another tech bubble getting ready to burst. Its a pity Zuckerberg couldn't have taken a leaf out of Bill Gate's book and used that 16 billion for something more productive instead of buying another flash in the pan dot.bomb
Never underestimate the number of naive people in the world who think the grass is always greener elsewhere. Sometimes it is, usually - unless you come from a slum in some no hope country - it isn't. Its just the same old sh1t but with a different view out the window.
Oh dear. One minute its poor trannies killing themselves because someone said something nasty to them, now your latest hysterical and pathetic attempt at moral equivalence involves dead children (which is NOT the topic btw) and anders breivik in a vain attempt to win an argument you lost 3 posts back. You nauseating and sad individual.
"So either go live in cave eating only what you can raise (without depleting soil of course) or stop embarrassing yourself with your white rich kid understanding of 'sustainability'"
Oh spare me. I've probably been on this planet a lot longer and seen a lot more than you have from your mums basement sunshine. And if you'd ever visited africa you'd know the majority of people there have mobile phones and a lot have computers and cars especially in the cities so your standard issue westerner-using-up-resources-guilt-trip argument has been dead and buried for a long time.
And aside from going and living in the middle of a jungle or desert there's not a lot I can do about using tech given society is based around it now. However I DO have a choice about how many kids I have and so does everyone else on this planet.
"you can be sure that 10 kids born to some forgotten tribe in Amazonian jungle are much less damaging than your single person"
Sure, for one generation. Then those 10 kids each have 10 kids. Am I more damaging than 100 tribesmen? Doubt it. What about 1000 , or 10K? Where does it stop?
"Do you expect them to become 4 million corpses tomorrow?"
A large number have serious illnesses due to the conditions which some have already died from. But hey, you don't give a shit because Harry Potter will come along, wave a magic wand and make it all better , right?
... there's always a chance of it coming down in the wrong place no matter how sophisticated. But I'll take being hit by a 10kg electric drone any day over a 1000kg chopper filled with kerosene.
"But that's all right, you use public transport so this make your life 'sustainable' and gives you right to bitch about how *others* abuse the planet."
Having a child is THE most enviromentally damaging thing any one person can do because that child will on average live for 60 years. I currently have none and don't plan on having any , so yes, it doesn't give me the fucking right to bitch about feckless morons having 10 kids then whining that they can't feed them.
"We will change when we need to change. I see it as better argument than your pathetic hypocrisy."
Nothing hypocritical about my argument whereas yours is nothing but lame vague on a wing and a prayer hand waving. You say we can change , we can cope , blah fucking blah , well tell me - how come there are still 4 MILLION people homeless after typhoon haiyan in indonesia if we such a resilient species? We seem to be pretty bloody useless at coping with natural disasters frankly.
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But its buried beneath 100 miles of ice. If they're expecting to find some trace of life in some trace of water vapour that may or may not have been ejected near where the probe lands in the few days before any DNA or proteins would be destroyed by the hard vacuum and radiation then I think its wishful thinking at best. At worst a waste of multi billion dollars when it could be spent on other more fruitful missions. Another probe to Titan that could travel around and examine the lakes and atmosphere would be far more worth while.
Its been tried - it doesn't work very well. eg in orphanages and certain 60s cults. Children want their own parents, they don't want to share some unrelated strangers with 50 other kids. Human nature tends to get in the way of most of these types of hippy social experiments working.
In most religions its a womans "duty" to have as many kids as possible regardless of the effects upon her health. "Go forth and multiply" was one of the biggest pieces of social propaganda ever divised.
Because the tech isn't perfected yet. And I don't expect someone as blinked as you to have the vision to see it - but if fully flexible suit able to lift hundreds of kilos or even tons would be far more useful in a lot of work enviroments than some inflexible fork lft or mini digger that can't even climb a single stair.
Even olympic powerlifters would struggle trying to hold 50kg in one hand at arms length for long , if at all, so don't sneer. Its a prototype - once they've got the design details sorted I'm sure they'll ramp up the torque.
... and some can't spot a joke when its virtually signposted for them,
Ok, I don't understand how bitcoin works, but ultimately they're just encryped hash files on a disk, right? So unless the other person spends them before you do and you have a backup, how can they be stolen?
Someone please explain...
They'll have to use some pretty strong casing on these things if they want to use them in cars because if they leaked in a crash things could get really nasty as free sulphur burns quite easily and creates SO2 which would kill or severely cripple anyone trapped nearby quite quickly.
Regulations will probably still mandate having a pilot on board even if he doesn't fly it. In which case they might as well take the money, buy a helicopter in the first place and then a couple of Bentleys with the change.
"Police are armed, but that doesn't make them "armed forces""
Given that any police force today would comprehensively outgun any armed forces around in the 18th century when the US constituation was written, the point is simply semantics and rather moot.
"The Constitution prohibits use of armed forces in policing the civilian population"
Which is ironic given ALL civilian policing in the US including the coast guard involves armed officers.
The only people who don't realise it are its developers. If an OS can't gain traction in a quarter of a century it never will. Also the hype about message passing microkernels died a decade back. They look great on paper but in theory they're slow and inefficient.
"Once that platform is complete, everyone else can throw their own interfaces and such on top of it."
What, you mean just like X Windows?
"Well, I am always willing to learn more about US culture, and if that, a district of detached houses with lawns and garages, was a lower class area the US is wealthier than I thought"
Most US houses are made of cheap chipboard and land is cheap outside of the cities. The fact that the buildings look nice to you obviously means that US builders can do their job properly whereas the ones in your country apparently can't.
Spot on. Wish I had mod points.
"And these problems cannot be solved by stopping any such research. Or you would have had a country with lots of problems and not even a space program for that matter"
ITYF all western countries that have space programs have a basic healthy standard of living amongst their population. They don' t have tens of millions of people without clean water and infested with disease.
India also has a space program, a huge IT industry and a middle class that is larger than the population of the US. India could sort a lot of its problems out but it can't be bothered - it would sooner spend the money on pointless rockets and nuclear weapons. The country is a disgrace.
"...lots of people aged 12-50 are using it as their main texting and groupchat app"
When you say lots presumably you mean people you know. I live in europe and I'd never even heard of it until farcebook bought it, never mind used it.
Don't look for logic in these sorts of aquisitions anymore - its another tech bubble getting ready to burst. Its a pity Zuckerberg couldn't have taken a leaf out of Bill Gate's book and used that 16 billion for something more productive instead of buying another flash in the pan dot.bomb
Never underestimate the number of naive people in the world who think the grass is always greener elsewhere. Sometimes it is, usually - unless you come from a slum in some no hope country - it isn't. Its just the same old sh1t but with a different view out the window.
To me this just seems like a good way to weed out the idiots.
Oh dear. One minute its poor trannies killing themselves because someone said something nasty to them, now your latest hysterical and pathetic attempt at moral equivalence involves dead children (which is NOT the topic btw) and anders breivik in a vain attempt to win an argument you lost 3 posts back. You nauseating and sad individual.
"So either go live in cave eating only what you can raise (without depleting soil of course) or stop embarrassing yourself with your white rich kid understanding of 'sustainability'"
Oh spare me. I've probably been on this planet a lot longer and seen a lot more than you have from your mums basement sunshine. And if you'd ever visited africa you'd know the majority of people there have mobile phones and a lot have computers and cars especially in the cities so your standard issue westerner-using-up-resources-guilt-trip argument has been dead and buried for a long time.
And aside from going and living in the middle of a jungle or desert there's not a lot I can do about using tech given society is based around it now. However I DO have a choice about how many kids I have and so does everyone else on this planet.
"you can be sure that 10 kids born to some forgotten tribe in Amazonian jungle are much less damaging than your single person"
Sure, for one generation. Then those 10 kids each have 10 kids. Am I more damaging than 100 tribesmen? Doubt it. What about 1000 , or 10K? Where does it stop?
"Do you expect them to become 4 million corpses tomorrow?"
A large number have serious illnesses due to the conditions which some have already died from. But hey, you don't give a shit because Harry Potter will come along, wave a magic wand and make it all better , right?
... there's always a chance of it coming down in the wrong place no matter how sophisticated. But I'll take being hit by a 10kg electric drone any day over a 1000kg chopper filled with kerosene.
*yawn* Cry me a river.
"But that's all right, you use public transport so this make your life 'sustainable' and gives you right to bitch about how *others* abuse the planet."
Having a child is THE most enviromentally damaging thing any one person can do because that child will on average live for 60 years. I currently have none and don't plan on having any , so yes, it doesn't give me the fucking right to bitch about feckless morons having 10 kids then whining that they can't feed them.
"We will change when we need to change. I see it as better argument than your pathetic hypocrisy."
Nothing hypocritical about my argument whereas yours is nothing but lame vague on a wing and a prayer hand waving. You say we can change , we can cope , blah fucking blah , well tell me - how come there are still 4 MILLION people homeless after typhoon haiyan in indonesia if we such a resilient species? We seem to be pretty bloody useless at coping with natural disasters frankly.