Well, your something "Quite similar" can't really exist. For starters, you can't call something with a "nonstandard ethernet wiring configuration" "ethernet". You'd have to call it "fucked-upnet". Your software is fucked in the head, as ethernet drivers shouldn't (granted, only a shouldn't, not a can't) affect the IP stack.
Now for the coupe de grace : there's no expansion slots in this thing, so i'm really wondering how you dropped in a PCI NIC.
In short, you sir are FUDDING quite strongly.
I have personal experience with one of these BookPCs, as i've set one up for someone and am teaching them how to use it. Granted, i'm only using Win98 on it, and it's no steller performer, but it runs quite well. The only problem we've had with it is that they used a really crummy socket. The processor has become unseated once. And yes, the sleep has *problems*. But as I never use that, and I consider it useless for non-laptop systems, I don't really care.
And the built in modem sucks badly, as you'd expect with any "host-based" modem. I've got a real USB modem on it and it flies! The ethernet seemed to do okay, though I've never done anything stressful to it.
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever" -- Unknown
Okay, I think this is about enough. I know i'm not supposed to feed the trolls, but I cannot help it.
Will the Anonymous Coward jerking off on an automatic complaint generator please KEEP IT TO YOURSELF?! I really don't need or want to see it. In fact, I rather explicitly DO NOT want to see it.
PS These new colors really bite. At least give me an option to keep the default slash colors.
PSS : Warning : This post may be 100% Content Free!
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever" -- Unknown
They're working on it. Browse your user prefs and turn on the BSD slashbox, and prepare to be pleasantly surprised.
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever" -- Unknown
SkyHawk Andrew Fremantle
Re:OpenBSD audits all its code...
on
Which BSD?
·
· Score: 1
OpenBSD's security is wonderful, but correct me if i'm wrong, it's no *remote* root exploits? I remember a bunch of FreeBSD security advisories lately, and the fixes/workarounds were proposed by Mr. De Raadt(sp?) himself. I don't know if that means they applied to OpenBSD though.
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever" -- Unknown
Noble goal, but you're overlooking one very major problem : battery life.
An MP3 player has an easy solution for this. Stick a bunch of RAM in it and read some MP3s into memory, then spin-down the disk. As long as you're not song surfing, you're set. And if provide a UI to control cacheing, you're even better off.
Computing devices generally involve random disk access, ie, as long as your using it, the damn disk will be spun up, which basically will nuke your batter life. "Binaries may die but source code lives forever" -- Unknown
Ah, but for a few things that you're forgetting : The control electronics, the I/O connectivity with a PC, and worst, THE MEMORY. If you're trying to tell me 32 - 64 MB of memory costs $15 - 20 I wanna know where you're getting your RAM!!
PS : I don't totally disagree with your opinion. I'm waiting for second or third generation devices like this that will drive the price down and the storage up.
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever" -- Unknown
Okay, I found the above post mildy amusing, and as such I feel it should have gotten a rating of +1, funny. I can understand that some people have different opinions.
But who the fuck decided on "Interesting"? I'd choose "Troll" over "Interesting" for that article.
Moderate me through the floor if you see fit:)
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever" -- Unknown
Ah, the AC speaks out against anything that isn't done his way. You'll have to excuse me if I don't give a shit how you spamproof your email. Use whatever works, and don't slam other solutions because they work for other people.
Let me guess, you're also one of these rabid, foaming at the mouth Linux zealots?
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever" -- Unknown
Hope this isn't seen as flaming, just wondering if this person thought this out.
Executable Code
In every email, running all the time so it can see the clock ticks, and without your knowledge or permission. And even then, you're trusting the client to not be hacked, and to launch the executable code contained in the emails. The only way I could maybe see around that last point is if each message is different enough that you must execute it for it to decrypt itself. Even then, it probably wouldn't be able to tell if it's in a sandbox, and you simply limit time in the sandbox. Basically, I don't see any way it's feasable without assuming WAY too much about the client machine. Including binary architecture and OS.
As a side note : When will they finish Mozilla??! Netscape sucks and IE is driving me up the wall!
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever" -- Unknown
I'm one of those subscribers, and they're not Cable. They're ADSL, provided by the local incumbent, BCT.Telus. As soon as I catch wind of some kind of repository of Ethernet addresses, maybe i'll be upset. In the meantime, someone can tell my NT box is using a 3Com ethernet card, they MIGHT even be able to tell it's using an ISA 3c509b ethernet card.
BFD.
They can tell my FreeBSD box is using a crummy NE/2000 clone. Probably not even that much, probably just that my card comes from a crummy manufacturer who only makes crummy NE/2000 compat ethernet cards:). Again.
BFD.
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever" -- Unknown
Here in the lower mainland of BC, i've had experiences with two cable installations, and my own ADSL line.
Rogers@HOME in Coquitlam sucked. Very, very badly. Speed varied from tolerable to pathetic.
Then there was the install in a Vancouver suburb. My understanding was that it was a very old install, and quite possibly preceded @HOME's presense[sp] in BC. That one seemed to perform okay.
Then there's my ADSL, Provided by BCTel. [ Or is it TELUS now? ] They've got a java speedtester up at http://speedtest.mybc.com, which obviously is on the same network I am, and maxes out my ADSL modem at about 2.5Mbps down, though it doesen't give an up figure. I'm fairly sure this thing is configured as an Ethernet bridge, and computers on the customer side pull down configuration information by DHCP.
Anyone know how the DSL/ISP thingie works up here in BC? I don't/can't login to their login server, I just get a blank page. My machine is assigned [my-ether-address].bconnected.net. I know other people manage to log in, because I ocaisionally see people as what they're supposed to be, userid.isp.bconnected.net.
I have several severe annoyances trying to make my network work without manual intervention when it's attached to the modem. ARP problems. I'm considering posting it to ask-slashdot, just to see if it's worthy!. I've got a workaround, but it's really something of a kludge.
For people considering it, the service is fairly good, though it does get spotty sometimes, especially late night sunday for some reason. The ARP problems i'm having shouldn't affect you if you MASQ/nat the connection, they should only come into play if you wanna plug an entire network into it.
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever" -- Unknown
1) I have to agree regarding most default free UNIX-like OS installs ( political correctness because i'm a FreeBSD fan ). I have never used any of the bigger name UNIXes, so I don't know about those.
2) I have to disagree with you regarding Windows Networking, as braindamaged as it is. Running SMB over TCP/IP does not involve broadcase packets for data exchange between machines, but does rely on broadcast for the "Network Neighborhood". Which really only makes sense, how the hell else are you supposed to see who's on your subnet? I don't know the defaults, i've never really looked at them, but if they default to share ANYTHING, then that is what i'd call braindead. Also, SMB services should be an option that can be disabled completely.
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever" -- Unknown
I'm sure you've seen this if you've read over the rest of the thread, but just to be sure it is said, you can easily install your 3.2-RELEASE system, hook it up to any halfway reasonable internet connection ( let a modem run overnight ) and use the CVSup utility to upgrade the source tree on your system to the latest one held on the central FreeBSD CVS system or it's mirrors. Assuming changes have already been made, this will give you system sources that are actually newer than 3.3-RELEASE!. Then build yourself a custom kernel from the new sources, along with a 'make world' and you're set. You've got the shiniest new FreeBSD box on the planet... Consult the relevant sections of the FreeBSD Handbook for details.
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever" -- Unknown
I'm subscribed to FreeBSD-announce, and I haven't gotten any email regarding the release of 3.3-RELEASE yet... perhaps they're waiting for the mirrors to pick it up first, and weren't counting on slashdot blowing the cover?
:)
If there's even a small fraction as many FreeBSD users upgrading as when a new Linux distro comes out, CDROM.COM is having lots of fun trying to set more records, especially if the mirrors haven't picked it up. I haven't looked yet, and i'm not going to because i'll be rebuilding my FreeBSD box on better hardware in about a week. I'll wait till then.
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever" -- Unknown
I've never had to do anything like this, and I haven't used Linux in a while, but I seem to recall something somewhere about multiple ramdisk devices... let's just call them/dev/ram0,/dev/ram1, and so on. Each ram device is a 8MB ramdisk. How you actually configure them is up to you, but you use the multiple devices driver to contantenate two or more of these things to get more than 8MB.
I've never done it, and this is just something I seem to remember reading, so it may well be totally off-base. Look at the configure help for ramdisks and the multiple devices driver.
FreeBSD -- The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever" -- Unknown
I don't know how well this would deal with stealth scans, but I run a firewall on my FreeBSD box. It doesen't do much other than cover up Samba against outside hosts.
However, There are a whole ton of ports I never ever use, including telnet, and many others. I have my firewall set to leave these packets alone, BUT TELL ME WHEN IT GETS THEM. This means a scanner doesent know he's been seen, and I get my daily security mailing with any losers who are portscanning me. Then I just toss 'em in/etc/ip.hostile and sh/etc/rc.firewall
For those running a FreeBSD box that's reasonably recent, here's the commands I use on my 3.2-RELEASE machine
in/etc/rc.firewall $fwcmd add allow log tcp from any to $ip 23
Change allow to deny depending on your policy ( mine's a fairly insecure default allow ) and tcp/udp and ports as needed. I log 4 tcp ports and only 1 udp port, which I should probably fix.
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever" -- Unknown
OK, first off, I don't believe they're putting text based adds in the lookups themselves, just banners on their whois portal page, which I consider to be totally fair. If they were, however...
This information bought to you by Pepsi(tm) :
COKE-DOM Coca Cola Corporation.. .. .. ..
:)
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever" -- Unknown
I'm going to be getting an AMD486DX3/100 back from a loan in a few days. I've got 24MB of RAM ( I don't expect to be able to use any of it in an Alpha:( ) and a Quantum 2.5GB 3.5" EIDE drive in it. I've also got a standard desktop 3.5" floppy drive lying around.
FWIW, that RAM consists of one 16MB 72pin SIMM, with 8 1MB 30pin SIMMs. I don't know about parity on any of them.
I'm planning to put FreeBSD on this thing and use it to power my own domain with services off my DSL line.
Would it be feasable to grab one of these things instead?
Could someone who knows these systems please tell me everything I would need to make a headless server box. I have a spare screen/keyboard lying around for the setup.
Also, how well does FreeBSD currently run on these things? It's been too long since i've used it.
Oh, and just to piss people off : FIRST POST! By that I mean this is my first post to slashdot, up until now i've just been a lurker.:)
Totally off-topic, but why do I have to add [BR]s to my sig to get it to show right in Plain Old Text preview?
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever" -- Unknown
Slashdot Mirror
Well, your something "Quite similar" can't really exist. For starters, you can't call something with a "nonstandard ethernet wiring configuration" "ethernet". You'd have to call it "fucked-upnet". Your software is fucked in the head, as ethernet drivers shouldn't (granted, only a shouldn't, not a can't) affect the IP stack.
Now for the coupe de grace : there's no expansion slots in this thing, so i'm really wondering how you dropped in a PCI NIC.
In short, you sir are FUDDING quite strongly.
I have personal experience with one of these BookPCs, as i've set one up for someone and am teaching them how to use it. Granted, i'm only using Win98 on it, and it's no steller performer, but it runs quite well. The only problem we've had with it is that they used a really crummy socket. The processor has become unseated once. And yes, the sleep has *problems*. But as I never use that, and I consider it useless for non-laptop systems, I don't really care.
And the built in modem sucks badly, as you'd expect with any "host-based" modem. I've got a real USB modem on it and it flies! The ethernet seemed to do okay, though I've never done anything stressful to it.
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever"
-- Unknown
SkyHawk
Andrew Fremantle
Okay, I think this is about enough. I know i'm not supposed to feed the trolls, but I cannot help it.
Will the Anonymous Coward jerking off on an automatic complaint generator please KEEP IT TO YOURSELF?! I really don't need or want to see it. In fact, I rather explicitly DO NOT want to see it.
PS These new colors really bite. At least give me an option to keep the default slash colors.
PSS : Warning : This post may be 100% Content Free!
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever"
-- Unknown
SkyHawk
Andrew Fremantle
They're working on it. Browse your user prefs and turn on the BSD slashbox, and prepare to be pleasantly surprised.
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever"
-- Unknown
SkyHawk
Andrew Fremantle
OpenBSD's security is wonderful, but correct me if i'm wrong, it's no *remote* root exploits? I remember a bunch of FreeBSD security advisories lately, and the fixes/workarounds were proposed by Mr. De Raadt(sp?) himself. I don't know if that means they applied to OpenBSD though.
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever"
-- Unknown
SkyHawk
Andrew Fremantle
Okay, i've done it too. I'm an idiot. Must remember to use the damn preview :)
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever"
-- Unknown
SkyHawk
Andrew Fremantle
Noble goal, but you're overlooking one very major problem : battery life.
An MP3 player has an easy solution for this. Stick a bunch of RAM in it and read some MP3s into memory, then spin-down the disk. As long as you're not song surfing, you're set. And if provide a UI to control cacheing, you're even better off.
Computing devices generally involve random disk access, ie, as long as your using it, the damn disk will be spun up, which basically will nuke your batter life.
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever"
-- Unknown
SkyHawk
Andrew Fremantle
Ah, but for a few things that you're forgetting : The control electronics, the I/O connectivity with a PC, and worst, THE MEMORY. If you're trying to tell me 32 - 64 MB of memory costs $15 - 20 I wanna know where you're getting your RAM!!
PS : I don't totally disagree with your opinion. I'm waiting for second or third generation devices like this that will drive the price down and the storage up.
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever"
-- Unknown
SkyHawk
Andrew Fremantle
Okay, I found the above post mildy amusing, and as such I feel it should have gotten a rating of +1, funny. I can understand that some people have different opinions.
:)
But who the fuck decided on "Interesting"? I'd choose "Troll" over "Interesting" for that article.
Moderate me through the floor if you see fit
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever"
-- Unknown
SkyHawk
Andrew Fremantle
Ah, the AC speaks out against anything that isn't done his way. You'll have to excuse me if I don't give a shit how you spamproof your email. Use whatever works, and don't slam other solutions because they work for other people.
Let me guess, you're also one of these rabid, foaming at the mouth Linux zealots?
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever"
-- Unknown
SkyHawk
Andrew Fremantle
Hope this isn't seen as flaming, just wondering if this person thought this out.
Executable Code
In every email, running all the time so it can see the clock ticks, and without your knowledge or permission. And even then, you're trusting the client to not be hacked, and to launch the executable code contained in the emails. The only way I could maybe see around that last point is if each message is different enough that you must execute it for it to decrypt itself. Even then, it probably wouldn't be able to tell if it's in a sandbox, and you simply limit time in the sandbox. Basically, I don't see any way it's feasable without assuming WAY too much about the client machine. Including binary architecture and OS.
As a side note : When will they finish Mozilla??! Netscape sucks and IE is driving me up the wall!
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever"
-- Unknown
SkyHawk
Andrew Fremantle
I'm one of those subscribers, and they're not Cable. They're ADSL, provided by the local incumbent, BCT.Telus. As soon as I catch wind of some kind of repository of Ethernet addresses, maybe i'll be upset. In the meantime, someone can tell my NT box is using a 3Com ethernet card, they MIGHT even be able to tell it's using an ISA 3c509b ethernet card.
:). Again.
BFD.
They can tell my FreeBSD box is using a crummy NE/2000 clone. Probably not even that much, probably just that my card comes from a crummy manufacturer who only makes crummy NE/2000 compat ethernet cards
BFD.
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever"
-- Unknown
SkyHawk
Andrew Fremantle
I know this is going to hurt my Karma, but I can only say 1 thing.
Fuck You
Take your bible and shove it up your ass, instead of down my throat.
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever"
-- Unknown
SkyHawk
Andrew Fremantle
Here in the lower mainland of BC, i've had experiences with two cable installations, and my own ADSL line.
Rogers@HOME in Coquitlam sucked. Very, very badly. Speed varied from tolerable to pathetic.
Then there was the install in a Vancouver suburb. My understanding was that it was a very old install, and quite possibly preceded @HOME's presense[sp] in BC. That one seemed to perform okay.
Then there's my ADSL, Provided by BCTel. [ Or is it TELUS now? ] They've got a java speedtester up at http://speedtest.mybc.com, which obviously is on the same network I am, and maxes out my ADSL modem at about 2.5Mbps down, though it doesen't give an up figure. I'm fairly sure this thing is configured as an Ethernet bridge, and computers on the customer side pull down configuration information by DHCP.
Anyone know how the DSL/ISP thingie works up here in BC? I don't/can't login to their login server, I just get a blank page. My machine is assigned [my-ether-address].bconnected.net. I know other people manage to log in, because I ocaisionally see people as what they're supposed to be, userid.isp.bconnected.net.
I have several severe annoyances trying to make my network work without manual intervention when it's attached to the modem. ARP problems. I'm considering posting it to ask-slashdot, just to see if it's worthy!. I've got a workaround, but it's really something of a kludge.
For people considering it, the service is fairly good, though it does get spotty sometimes, especially late night sunday for some reason. The ARP problems i'm having shouldn't affect you if you MASQ/nat the connection, they should only come into play if you wanna plug an entire network into it.
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever"
-- Unknown
SkyHawk
Andrew Fremantle
Okay two things :
1) I have to agree regarding most default free UNIX-like OS installs ( political correctness because i'm a FreeBSD fan ). I have never used any of the bigger name UNIXes, so I don't know about those.
2) I have to disagree with you regarding Windows Networking, as braindamaged as it is. Running SMB over TCP/IP does not involve broadcase packets for data exchange between machines, but does rely on broadcast for the "Network Neighborhood". Which really only makes sense, how the hell else are you supposed to see who's on your subnet? I don't know the defaults, i've never really looked at them, but if they default to share ANYTHING, then that is what i'd call braindead. Also, SMB services should be an option that can be disabled completely.
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever"
-- Unknown
SkyHawk
Andrew Fremantle
I've been looking for something like this for ages, especially if my DSL provider starts metering my bandwidth.
Thank you ever so much for the link..
ps : I looked, but could find no answers. Anyone know if Linux is capable of this kind of activity?
I go RTFM on the Drawbridge now..
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever"
-- Unknown
SkyHawk
Andrew Fremantle
I'm sure you've seen this if you've read over the rest of the thread, but just to be sure it is said, you can easily install your 3.2-RELEASE system, hook it up to any halfway reasonable internet connection ( let a modem run overnight ) and use the CVSup utility to upgrade the source tree on your system to the latest one held on the central FreeBSD CVS system or it's mirrors. Assuming changes have already been made, this will give you system sources that are actually newer than 3.3-RELEASE!. Then build yourself a custom kernel from the new sources, along with a 'make world' and you're set. You've got the shiniest new FreeBSD box on the planet... Consult the relevant sections of the FreeBSD Handbook for details.
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever"
-- Unknown
SkyHawk
Andrew Fremantle
I'm subscribed to FreeBSD-announce, and I haven't gotten any email regarding the release of 3.3-RELEASE yet... perhaps they're waiting for the mirrors to pick it up first, and weren't counting on slashdot blowing the cover?
:)
If there's even a small fraction as many FreeBSD users upgrading as when a new Linux distro comes out, CDROM.COM is having lots of fun trying to set more records, especially if the mirrors haven't picked it up. I haven't looked yet, and i'm not going to because i'll be rebuilding my FreeBSD box on better hardware in about a week. I'll wait till then.
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever"
-- Unknown
SkyHawk
Andrew Fremantle
I've never had to do anything like this, and I haven't used Linux in a while, but I seem to recall something somewhere about multiple ramdisk devices... let's just call them /dev/ram0, /dev/ram1, and so on. Each ram device is a 8MB ramdisk. How you actually configure them is up to you, but you use the multiple devices driver to contantenate two or more of these things to get more than 8MB.
I've never done it, and this is just something I seem to remember reading, so it may well be totally off-base. Look at the configure help for ramdisks and the multiple devices driver.
FreeBSD -- The Power to Serve
http://www.freebsd.org
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever"
-- Unknown
SkyHawk
Andrew Fremantle
I don't know how well this would deal with stealth scans, but I run a firewall on my FreeBSD box. It doesen't do much other than cover up Samba against outside hosts.
/etc/ip.hostile and sh /etc/rc.firewall
/etc/rc.firewall
However, There are a whole ton of ports I never ever use, including telnet, and many others. I have my firewall set to leave these packets alone, BUT TELL ME WHEN IT GETS THEM. This means a scanner doesent know he's been seen, and I get my daily security mailing with any losers who are portscanning me. Then I just toss 'em in
For those running a FreeBSD box that's reasonably recent, here's the commands I use on my 3.2-RELEASE machine
in
$fwcmd add allow log tcp from any to $ip 23
Change allow to deny depending on your policy ( mine's a fairly insecure default allow ) and tcp/udp and ports as needed. I log 4 tcp ports and only 1 udp port, which I should probably fix.
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever"
-- Unknown
SkyHawk
Andrew Fremantle
Well?
Seriously, I think these changes to the moderation system are a good idea, but this is just a simple reminder to at least try to keep it simple...
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever"
-- Unknown
SkyHawk
Andrew Fremantle
OK, first off, I don't believe they're putting text based adds in the lookups themselves, just banners on their whois portal page, which I consider to be totally fair. If they were, however...
This information bought to you by Pepsi(tm) :
COKE-DOM
Coca Cola Corporation..
..
..
..
:)
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever"
-- Unknown
SkyHawk
Andrew Fremantle
I'm going to be getting an AMD486DX3/100 back from a loan in a few days. I've got 24MB of RAM ( I don't expect to be able to use any of it in an Alpha :( ) and a Quantum 2.5GB 3.5" EIDE drive in it. I've also got a standard desktop 3.5" floppy drive lying around.
:)
FWIW, that RAM consists of one 16MB 72pin SIMM, with 8 1MB 30pin SIMMs. I don't know about parity on any of them.
I'm planning to put FreeBSD on this thing and use it to power my own domain with services off my DSL line.
Would it be feasable to grab one of these things instead?
Could someone who knows these systems please tell me everything I would need to make a headless server box. I have a spare screen/keyboard lying around for the setup.
Also, how well does FreeBSD currently run on these things? It's been too long since i've used it.
Oh, and just to piss people off : FIRST POST!
By that I mean this is my first post to slashdot, up until now i've just been a lurker.
Totally off-topic, but why do I have to add [BR]s to my sig to get it to show right in Plain Old Text preview?
"Binaries may die but source code lives forever"
-- Unknown
SkyHawk
Andrew Fremantle