Run the testcases attached to those bugs, and posted in the bug comments.
The one that shocked me the most was the table cellpadding bug. That is a huge regression. On top of that, the patch is already written, but it is not going to make it into the Netscape 6.0 tree unless something is changed.
The regressions being patched will not hold up the release at all. Apply the patches, Netscape, and we all will be happy.
First off, I don't like michael's comments on how great IE is. IE is a lot farther off on standards than a buggy Netscape 6. In fact, IE 5.5 was WORSE than IE 5.0 in some areas. I doubt IE 6 will be much better.
This will be another addition to a long list of mistakes Netscape has made if they do not take this suggestion and run with it. They are closing the tree too early.
The example of the cellpadding really shocked me. Try the testcases linked from the bug report. That is something that is unacceptable of a software product like Netscape 6. It is a regression, and MUST be fixed.
Personally, I will be using Mozilla instead of Netscape 6, but for 99% of time it will be the other way around. Please sign the petition, and add your comments to those bug reports.
It's time that we gave Netscape some hell instead of Netscape giving us hell with a buggy browser.
So, what else can Perl 6 do that is new as far as applications go? I assume there is more new functionality.
BTW, why doesn't he just use the term 'macro' for that 'great' new capability of looking like other languages? IMHO, if I want to do Perl, I will write Perl.
It seems stupid to write Perl with a Java look-a-like because features of the Perl syntax are what makes it good at what it does. For example, just how much spring processing do you do in a Java program? Probably none.
With the introduction of the cube, I was for some reason reminded of my expectations for future Macintoshes of several years ago, when the Power Macs were first introduced.
What I did imagine out of a future Macintosh was that they would be more PC-like, with lower prices and also the ability to run Windows application through either software or hardware emulation. Heck, I even hoped there would be the option to run the now defunct Windows NT for PPC.
If I were shown the future of the Mac, maybe a picture such as displayed here, I would have been so awestruck that I would have expected that the Mac had already taken back marketshare, as a product like that could only come out of success.
I became a PC user when Apple cut the clones and also the PowerPC Platform. I thought that Apple was killing themselves, going in the wrong direction, towards disaster.
When I look at the Mac now, such as the cube, it is almost alien to me. I see it online, and in magazines, but I will probably never see one in real life. I have only seen a couple of iMacs, a G3 or two, no G4s, iBooks, and now probably no cubes. Apple is more worried about their product design than their market share.
In the end, that is how it should be. Apple has always been, and always will be a niche product. That is what makes Apple special.
"...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
CedarNet is a non-profit ISP here in Iowa. It provides low-cost dial-up and also provides community information. CedarNet is starving for QUALITY volunteers.
There might be a similar organization in your area, however, CedarNet is kind of unique.
"...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
A person is only required to work 40 hours a week, unless you have a bad contract or something.
If you choose not to work overtime, there is nothing the company can do about it. If they try to get rid of you because of it... it's time for a lawsuit, that you will easily win.
My father is a mechanic at a factory. For hours he works > 40, he gets 1.5 of his normal pay. That means he makes $30 per hour instead of $20 for any extra time. Heck, he gets double-time on Sundays.
People that are working overtime in a salary position are getting screwed. If you are gonna work overtime, get a new conract that actually rewards you for your extra work.
If that don't work, get the UAW to help you out;-)
"...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
I cannot imagine any vendor saying "We support any Linux distro and version".
However, I can imagine them saying, "We support Red Hat 6.2".
As we all know, that is not what we want, only one distribution to be supported by a company. What needs to happen is to have some sort of "Linux Software Support Standard" in which all distributions and software vendors can choose to support.
Can this happen? I hope so. Otherwise it will just be "We only support Red Hat 6.2".
"...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
If I was going to engineer two of my children, one one be a boy, other would be a girl. Here is how I would do it:
Boy: Grows up to be about 6'6", handsome like me (haha), supersmart, atheletic, no eyesight or hearing probs, never go bald, etc.
Girl: Grows up to be about 5'9", blond and cute, blue eyes, thin and toned, supersmart, etc. Maybe I can control her boobsize too.
If we start engineering our children, we are going to have a bunch of "perfect" children. There will be dozens of 6'6" atheletic dudes trying out for the basketball team, and dozens of perfect girls competing for homecoming queen.
Things should not be like that. Eventually there will be a rift between engineered people, and non-engineered people, and it will be chaos.
If I was a kid in high school, and there was all these perfect people getting all the attention, it would probably be Columbine time. I would go nuts. "...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
Haha, yeah. Ada is a good language with strict complilers. Maybe it was ahead of its time, or something, otherwise it might have been more popular. "...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
For the past few years, Scot has been a big BeOS advocate, and he even wrote the BeOS Bible.
This MP3 book is a new and different product from him. I know that he has been working on it for the past several months, so it should be very good if it took all that time.
Overall, Scot is a cool guy.
"...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
If your demands are not that serious, I would look into a local ISP.
The main benefit is that you can personally go over there and kick there ass if something goes wrong. Also, the server will be right there, and you can check out their environment.
"...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
I know Sony has been pushing their Memory Stick technology very hard. Even some of the new Vaios have a Memory stick slot. There is also a Cybershot line to complement the Mavica.
What is a Memory Stick? It is just what the name is, and it is a Sony proprietary thing that works across different devices.
Sony's high-end cameras use Memory Stick, and here there is a floppy adapter for a Memory Stick.
"...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
If you are going to use Mozilla to play around, you will probably want to use a couple of different builds. For example, use M15 and a nightly build. If something don't work in one, it might in the other.
There are progressions and regressions, so watch out!
"...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
Mozilla is 100% standards compliant. It is everything else that isn't, including IE, and super especially Netscape 4 on down.
Hopefully IE will be nearly as compliant as Mozilla already is, and then we don't have to worry about it anymore.
Plus, it all depends on what you are doing. Like Webmin, it is all run my server-side scripts, so it really don't matter what the HTML or whatever else you want.
If you want to do something like a word processor or spreadsheet, Dynamic HTML/XML is not going to do. You would have to use something like XUL on Mozilla, if you are going to going to do something that rich.
What it comes down to is that you want to build for the future. In that respect, I think Mozilla is the only route to go. You can't argue against W3C standards...
"...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
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I will say that KDE and GNOME average out in speed, ever a period of many months.
KDE- takes longer to boot into, and slower response time in some cases.
GNOME- takes hours and hours to configure to work how you want it too, and not look like crap.
There is no apps available for this configuration either. I think there was Notepad and Solitare... and that was about it.
Is there anymore info on the Nokia "feature"?
Run the testcases attached to those bugs, and posted in the bug comments.
The one that shocked me the most was the table cellpadding bug. That is a huge regression. On top of that, the patch is already written, but it is not going to make it into the Netscape 6.0 tree unless something is changed.
The regressions being patched will not hold up the release at all. Apply the patches, Netscape, and we all will be happy.
First off, I don't like michael's comments on how great IE is. IE is a lot farther off on standards than a buggy Netscape 6. In fact, IE 5.5 was WORSE than IE 5.0 in some areas. I doubt IE 6 will be much better.
This will be another addition to a long list of mistakes Netscape has made if they do not take this suggestion and run with it. They are closing the tree too early.
The example of the cellpadding really shocked me. Try the testcases linked from the bug report. That is something that is unacceptable of a software product like Netscape 6. It is a regression, and MUST be fixed.
Personally, I will be using Mozilla instead of Netscape 6, but for 99% of time it will be the other way around. Please sign the petition, and add your comments to those bug reports.
It's time that we gave Netscape some hell instead of Netscape giving us hell with a buggy browser.
"from the what-happened-to-ip-over-powerlines?! dept"
Does anyone know if this has become any more viable?
thanks for the link
Also, we would have a much greater chance of terraforming Venus than Mars.
I don't understand why Mars is such a draw of attention when there is Venus, our "sister planet".
What about recursive functions? Are they possible in JCL?
So, what else can Perl 6 do that is new as far as applications go? I assume there is more new functionality.
BTW, why doesn't he just use the term 'macro' for that 'great' new capability of looking like other languages? IMHO, if I want to do Perl, I will write Perl.
It seems stupid to write Perl with a Java look-a-like because features of the Perl syntax are what makes it good at what it does. For example, just how much spring processing do you do in a Java program? Probably none.
With everyone bashing C and C++ here, maybe they should *upgrade* to C#?
Haha, maybe not. I am hoping for the second coming of Java though.
"...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
With the introduction of the cube, I was for some reason reminded of my expectations for future Macintoshes of several years ago, when the Power Macs were first introduced.
What I did imagine out of a future Macintosh was that they would be more PC-like, with lower prices and also the ability to run Windows application through either software or hardware emulation. Heck, I even hoped there would be the option to run the now defunct Windows NT for PPC.
If I were shown the future of the Mac, maybe a picture such as displayed here, I would have been so awestruck that I would have expected that the Mac had already taken back marketshare, as a product like that could only come out of success.
I became a PC user when Apple cut the clones and also the PowerPC Platform. I thought that Apple was killing themselves, going in the wrong direction, towards disaster.
When I look at the Mac now, such as the cube, it is almost alien to me. I see it online, and in magazines, but I will probably never see one in real life. I have only seen a couple of iMacs, a G3 or two, no G4s, iBooks, and now probably no cubes. Apple is more worried about their product design than their market share.
In the end, that is how it should be. Apple has always been, and always will be a niche product. That is what makes Apple special.
"...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
CedarNet is a non-profit ISP here in Iowa. It provides low-cost dial-up and also provides community information. CedarNet is starving for QUALITY volunteers.
There might be a similar organization in your area, however, CedarNet is kind of unique.
"...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
A person is only required to work 40 hours a week, unless you have a bad contract or something.
;-)
If you choose not to work overtime, there is nothing the company can do about it. If they try to get rid of you because of it... it's time for a lawsuit, that you will easily win.
My father is a mechanic at a factory. For hours he works > 40, he gets 1.5 of his normal pay. That means he makes $30 per hour instead of $20 for any extra time. Heck, he gets double-time on Sundays.
People that are working overtime in a salary position are getting screwed. If you are gonna work overtime, get a new conract that actually rewards you for your extra work.
If that don't work, get the UAW to help you out
"...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
I know Ada well, and GNAT is pretty flexible on Linux.
Debian is the best distribution anyway, if you want stability.
"...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
I cannot imagine any vendor saying "We support any Linux distro and version".
However, I can imagine them saying, "We support Red Hat 6.2".
As we all know, that is not what we want, only one distribution to be supported by a company. What needs to happen is to have some sort of "Linux Software Support Standard" in which all distributions and software vendors can choose to support.
Can this happen? I hope so. Otherwise it will just be "We only support Red Hat 6.2".
"...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
If I was going to engineer two of my children, one one be a boy, other would be a girl. Here is how I would do it:
Boy: Grows up to be about 6'6", handsome like me (haha), supersmart, atheletic, no eyesight or hearing probs, never go bald, etc.
Girl: Grows up to be about 5'9", blond and cute, blue eyes, thin and toned, supersmart, etc. Maybe I can control her boobsize too.
If we start engineering our children, we are going to have a bunch of "perfect" children. There will be dozens of 6'6" atheletic dudes trying out for the basketball team, and dozens of perfect girls competing for homecoming queen.
Things should not be like that. Eventually there will be a rift between engineered people, and non-engineered people, and it will be chaos.
If I was a kid in high school, and there was all these perfect people getting all the attention, it would probably be Columbine time. I would go nuts.
"...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
Haha, yeah. Ada is a good language with strict complilers. Maybe it was ahead of its time, or something, otherwise it might have been more popular.
"...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
For the past few years, Scot has been a big BeOS advocate, and he even wrote the BeOS Bible.
This MP3 book is a new and different product from him. I know that he has been working on it for the past several months, so it should be very good if it took all that time.
Overall, Scot is a cool guy.
"...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
If your demands are not that serious, I would look into a local ISP.
The main benefit is that you can personally go over there and kick there ass if something goes wrong. Also, the server will be right there, and you can check out their environment.
"...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
You can get a quiet power supply at http://www.pcpowerandcooling.com/home.htm
"...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
I know Sony has been pushing their Memory Stick technology very hard. Even some of the new Vaios have a Memory stick slot. There is also a Cybershot line to complement the Mavica.
What is a Memory Stick? It is just what the name is, and it is a Sony proprietary thing that works across different devices.
Sony's high-end cameras use Memory Stick, and here there is a floppy adapter for a Memory Stick.
"...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
If you are going to use Mozilla to play around, you will probably want to use a couple of different builds. For example, use M15 and a nightly build. If something don't work in one, it might in the other.
There are progressions and regressions, so watch out!
"...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
Mozilla is 100% standards compliant. It is everything else that isn't, including IE, and super especially Netscape 4 on down.
Hopefully IE will be nearly as compliant as Mozilla already is, and then we don't have to worry about it anymore.
Plus, it all depends on what you are doing. Like Webmin, it is all run my server-side scripts, so it really don't matter what the HTML or whatever else you want.
If you want to do something like a word processor or spreadsheet, Dynamic HTML/XML is not going to do. You would have to use something like XUL on Mozilla, if you are going to going to do something that rich.
What it comes down to is that you want to build for the future. In that respect, I think Mozilla is the only route to go. You can't argue against W3C standards...
"...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of
Sounds like you need Mozilla to base this on. Read my comment up above.
"...we are moving toward a Web-centric stage and our dear PC will be one of