Simply put an EMP blast would toss ecomonies into havoc if all these crazy ideas that/.ers are talking about ever took place. So combine these crazy ideas about invalidating money if the chip is disabled with the do it yourself HERF gun.
"We feel strongly that those who encourage, facilitate and profit from piracy should be held accountable for actions," MPAA spokeswoman Marta Grutka said. "We're hoping that people aren't taking this as an invitation to continue along the path of what is clearly illegal activity."
If we lived by these laws all the time, then producers of guns, cars, knives, computers, software, etc.. etc.. etc.. should be liable.
Picture this:
Hypothetically speaking of course.. Let's say I purchase a gun and a knife with the intent to rob a bank. I purchase a car because at some point I need to get away from the scene. I purchase a computer and W1nd0ze because I need to download information about the area and how to plan my best escape route. Clearly then, the bank that I rob should sue all the producers of these goods because they are obviously encouraging, facilitating, and profiting from this piracy (robbing a bank is closer to the true meaning of the word), and they should be held accountable.
Isn't this as ridiculous as fat people suing McD's because they just can't seem to stop eating?
But in reality I purchased that gun to protect my family. The knife is to cut tomato's since I'm a chef, and the car takes me back and forth to work. The computer allows me to update my on-line cookbook and W1nd0ze just makes it so fun and friendly!
I'm not an original pioneer, but I have to say it over since people like Marta Grutka can't make the connection.... All tools can be used for illegal purposes. Does that fact make it necessary to ban or allow suits of the makers of tools? Hell no!
So what would it take to introduce the same issue to Verizon by someone that is against the DMCA? Let's say I make a song.. and a terrible song it would be. I could then sell one CD of this crappy song to my wife for $1 and then she could then rip it to MP3 and place it on a P2P network via a verizon pipe. Once the first person downloads the file, I then go to verizon and demand the name of the person that downloaded the song. They would refuse and then we could take it to the USSC, with the intent of the ruling in favor of Verizon. I wouldn't drop the case, nor could anyone prove that this was a setup. Since the person that posted the item was my wife, she can't be forced to testify against me, nor I against her.
Probably wouldn't work; however, I don't want the RIAA to pull out of this one when they finally realize how unconstitutional this is.
The DMCA was brought forth by a ~72 (present age) year old representative from North Carolina. This old man named Cobble, probably can't even figure out how to log onto windows, much less understand the digital world. He has never held a position in the IT or MIS world. Clearly he was just a puppet. Check out his website at:
http://www.house.gov/coble/
Also, the DMCA was signed by into law by a Democrat. Keep that in mind.
Either way it's a bad law. The world knows it. Simply put; the old farts that have the power, either D or R, simply don't understand the digital world. They never will. Only when younger blood moves to DC will things ever change.
Some days when I return a movie to Netflix, I noticed that it seems to take quite a long time to get back to them. My center is in MD and when the center was first out, I would have my movies checked back in after only 2 days. Now it seems to take 4. My post office service has only gotten better over the years and this seems a little strange. I was thinking about asking for a return receipt on the next couple of movies to see exactly when they receive the item back and when they send me the e-mail stating that they have the movie back. For all we know, they could hold the movie out for 24 hours or more and we wouldn't have a clue!
While this would work in most cases.. the fact is that you are just going to take it because you will put up with it?
The problem with corporations these days is that they will continue to dish it out until the customer gets so sick of taking it, says.. "I can't fucking take it anymore!"... and drops the service that the company is providing. Just like my cable bill, which just seems to always go up, and up and up each month. $1 here,.50c here.. soon I'll be paying $200 just to have cable modem and HBO! Eventually the consumer needs to seed a message and live without the service, since it's sucking you dry!
The point is that they filed suit against people that don't do anything more than index the content, just like the poster above said about google, yahoo, etc....
You must work for the RIAA to even spread such propagana.
No it doesn't make any of it right. You're speaking of events 30 years old, after many treaties have been agreed to by the United States and the world.
So that means it's ok for that soverign nation to kill the citizens of there own country in the name of a dictator that doesn't allow you to speak out with your own voice?
Now that's sick irony.
I pray that if the American government ever started to kill it's own citizen's for speaking out that someone would come and liberate us. It's clear it won't be France or Germany.
And I still don't get the reason why people are blind to the fact that the US is doing this for the good of the world.
If Saddam came out and showed us the nuke he had stuck up his ass, the likes of France, Germany, and the anti-war morons would swear up and down that somehow we are to blame.
Here's more irony for your list... Anti-Americanism breeds anti-France/Germany/Russia/EU-ism in turn. Don't be surprised when you find the general American public beginning to hate you.
The media has no given right to be on those ships or with those marines. The military grants them permission and protection after they agree to play by the rules that protect the marines lives.
Pretty simple to understand.
Again, somehow people keep thinking that life is all about the good of the individual, and not the good of many.
Hitler was killing the jews in his own country for years, much like Saddam kills the kurds.
You just need to pray that you live in the United States, and if you don't, pray that the aid checks keep coming to help increase stability in your little world. Those checks come out of my tax money.
"Of course, all these things would be *good*, not *evil* especially for the US. It will help them to get even richer and help enlarging the stockpile of those weapons which they first sold to Iraq, then fight a war to get them fully destroyed. But then - if they wouldnt destroy them, you could not sell new ones to them..."
All the WMD that you claim the US will 'enlarging' is nothing but bullshit. We have treaties that are going the other direction. We don't make any new WMD's, and we are in the process of taking apart our nukes and those of the former USSR at the expense of the US taxpayer. I don't see France or German writing the checks to take the weapons apart.
Why would anyone mod this up even a point?
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It has NO VALUE at all, and it get's a 2? How many 'all your base' posts will it take for the mods to stop modding them up past anything but zero for redundant and USELESS?
slashdot is starting to suck ass.
The security council has been useless in this entire situation. They passed 17-18 resolutions that Iraq said fuck off too.
the US has missles, that we are taking apart over time due to the fact that we created them first, then we had a build-up of arms to counter USSR.
Also you dope, we used them against Hiroshima and Nagasaki to end the World War. You know that little war that killed somewhere around 50 million people?
How can the people that don't stand up for the right path sleep at night? Again, let's just all hold hands and pretend everything will be alright. sheesh..
I'm ashamed to be a slashdot reader..
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I can't believe how many of you anti-war idiots have been sold the bullshit from the left. Don't accidentally kill the Iraqi people, but go ahead and kill unborn American babies. Don't worry about the fact that for the past 20 years that Saddam has been killing untold scores of people that speak out against him.
Or the bullshit of how the US is responsible for killing thousands of poor Iraqis. Umm none of this would have happened if Saddam wasn't invading other countries and was a civil human being.
Listen to the actors... yeah.. they get paid $10M to lie each film, makes a bunch of sense. Some how they are soooooooo much smarter than us because their agents are able to rip off the world through ticket sales to their stupid ass movie. If they are so fucking moral, then why do they demand $10M a film, when they know that the average working American only brings home 38k a year? Do you really need $10M to lie?
Damn, I forgot, the majority of/. readers have access to CIA, FBI, NSA, etc reports; therefore, you guys must know EXACTLY what's going on in the world.
Shit, I forgot about the fact that Clinton sent cruise missles into Iraq, Afghanistan, and Serbia.. but the leftists didn't bitch then. It's popular to hate the conservative point of view.
If we all just hold hands and kiss, then maybe the ravages of the world will all just go away. Yeah, peace and love man...
You are all fucking wimps. Keep your shitty little tech job and thank the leaders of this great country that protect you, no matter what the cost. It's the same people that protect you every day from having your wife raped in your own house, or your kids tortured just so you profess how you are guilty against the regime.
You know how many tech job there are in Iraq? Not many, since all access to media and internet is controlled.
You people make me sick.
France, due to it's own trade agenda, they ruined the diplomatic process. They voted for 1441 which clearly stated that if Iraq had any items that they didn't declare to start with, then they were in material breach. Chem/Bio warheads, rockets, drones. all of these items were not declared, and then found. MATERIAL BREACH YOU NUMBSKULLS! But no, France had to keep dragging the facts down into the red tape of process.
Who in the fuck actually thinks that 300 inspectors are going to find a 2 liter bottle of anthrax in a country the size of CALIFORNIA? Are you kidding me? I could hide that in my house for eons and no one would ever know. Bury it in the sand.. anything.. sheeshh.
WTF are you talking about? Yeah. All the parties my white ass went to that gut busted always had the cops politely knock on the door and kindly ask me to lower the noise level. Are you out of your damn mind? I, white male, as a teenager have been stopped so many times and harrassed by the police it's not even funny. Let's see, the two k-9 units that were brought in to jump up on my car and scratch it for no reason other than I was parked in a fire lane with the car running and me in it (I was picking up someone). Or when I was pulled over going to speed limit at 2 am and accused of speeding. Or when I was arrested when my X girlfriend lied to the magistrate that I had harrassed her. Or when I was pulled over for having my windows half-way down in winter by a 'black' cop who called me a punk ass white boy./sarcasm
Want out fo the ghetto? Take a bus, get a job, get a new apartment.
I'd also like to point out that up until that point I never had a problem with the "law". Infact until my honorable discharge on Dec 5th 2002 I was an intel analyst for a Military Police Battalion and knew a truck load of police officers. The difference I realize is that I used to live in Suburbia.. Moving to Brooklyn changed the ideologies. Says alot about white people huh?
That does say shit about white people. What is says is that you are like eveyone one else. You are the racist. You just clasified a group of people by their skin color based on behavior. The problem is, people like you only see things with your eyes.
If I tought you as a child that Orange was called Red and Red was ALSO called Red, you would call them both Red as an adult. Or would your human nature force you to clasify it? Clasification lends itself towards racism when people dont have the time to care about details. But the thing you and everyone else keeps forgetting is that they are both colors.
Nothing will change until you stop considering yourself as a insert color here male/female and start considering yourself as an individual.
Or if you wanted to stay warm during winter, stay cool during summer, stay dry during rain, get to work in a snowstorm, go off road, have sex in the back seat, party with your friends, get a little excitement out of driving, or keep all your body parts during the transition to the segway (ever see what happens to a person when hit by a dump truck). The Segway is just a failure.. what's the damn point? A horse is a better method of transportation, it's only by byproduct is the usual #1 and #2.
What happens when all the world is "First World"? Then global inflation occurs correct? Prices skyrocket, and then the Class Wars truly begin. Thoughts?
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3) Company relocates to other country and sells products to all their new workers.
4) 50 years pass and repeat step 1 and 2 and replace American with location of company from step 3.**
**Dependant on world not running out of oil. If this occurs, welcome WWW III and the end of it all.
Those people that are doing this are those that are already financially secure. What do they care? They haven't seen middle class since they were a child, or perhaps even never. They could all quit their jobs right now and live off the interest alone. But that doesn't matter, enough is never enough. They are FUCKING their middle class neighbor and the result will be the middle class becoming the poverty class and rising up against them. History repeats itself AGAIN, unfortunately we don't have an ocean to sail across to find new hope. The faith part is that we, in the United States and the UK will move on to bigger and better things.. that used to work, but not anymore.
BTW, why do you think this is true? "But by the time my kids are college-age, god knows what will be left in the US besides burger flippers, doctors, and lawyers."
Who will have the money to pay for a burger or a job that has health insurance to pay the doctor? And the job of the lawyers can go on out the door as well, as shown by the courts of the world. You don't even have to be in a country physically to be sued these days.
Yeah, but what if the "cancel" button is simply labled cancel, when it performs the "ok" function?
When I got the Xupiter crap, I NEVER clicked "ok".. It was installed on my system through a subversive channel.
Funny thing is that I hear everyone joking around about this Xupiter crap, but I don't hear anyone finding out who is responsible. A spammer was featured on this site not to long ago, and within hours we knew where he lived, who his layer was, and we even had a picture of his newly built house. Why isn't this the case with something just as bad, if not worse. Spam can simply be deleted, to the millions of users that can barely turn their computer on without a call to their computer buddy, this is a horrific.
I'm guessing it has nothing, or very little to do with the actual propulsion of the vehicle, but more the power of the on board systems. Most likey the trip will take such a long time that traditional battery systems will not be able to power the craft. Also weight is a huge consideration.. and battery power would add a lot of mass that takes more to move. Traditional propulsion will be used to further the slingshot approach of spinning off the earth. You have to understand that even when sats are placed in orbit, the people at NASA use not only the gravity of the earth, but the moon, venus, mars, etc...
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Simply put an EMP blast would toss ecomonies into havoc if all these crazy ideas that /.ers are talking about ever took place. So combine these crazy ideas about invalidating money if the chip is disabled with the do it yourself HERF gun.
"We feel strongly that those who encourage, facilitate and profit from piracy should be held accountable for actions," MPAA spokeswoman Marta Grutka said. "We're hoping that people aren't taking this as an invitation to continue along the path of what is clearly illegal activity."
If we lived by these laws all the time, then producers of guns, cars, knives, computers, software, etc.. etc.. etc.. should be liable.
Picture this:
Hypothetically speaking of course.. Let's say I purchase a gun and a knife with the intent to rob a bank. I purchase a car because at some point I need to get away from the scene. I purchase a computer and W1nd0ze because I need to download information about the area and how to plan my best escape route. Clearly then, the bank that I rob should sue all the producers of these goods because they are obviously encouraging, facilitating, and profiting from this piracy (robbing a bank is closer to the true meaning of the word), and they should be held accountable.
Isn't this as ridiculous as fat people suing McD's because they just can't seem to stop eating?
But in reality I purchased that gun to protect my family. The knife is to cut tomato's since I'm a chef, and the car takes me back and forth to work. The computer allows me to update my on-line cookbook and W1nd0ze just makes it so fun and friendly!
I'm not an original pioneer, but I have to say it over since people like Marta Grutka can't make the connection.... All tools can be used for illegal purposes. Does that fact make it necessary to ban or allow suits of the makers of tools? Hell no!
Down with RIAA and the MPAA!
So what would it take to introduce the same issue to Verizon by someone that is against the DMCA? Let's say I make a song.. and a terrible song it would be. I could then sell one CD of this crappy song to my wife for $1 and then she could then rip it to MP3 and place it on a P2P network via a verizon pipe. Once the first person downloads the file, I then go to verizon and demand the name of the person that downloaded the song. They would refuse and then we could take it to the USSC, with the intent of the ruling in favor of Verizon. I wouldn't drop the case, nor could anyone prove that this was a setup. Since the person that posted the item was my wife, she can't be forced to testify against me, nor I against her.
Probably wouldn't work; however, I don't want the RIAA to pull out of this one when they finally realize how unconstitutional this is.
The DMCA was brought forth by a ~72 (present age) year old representative from North Carolina. This old man named Cobble, probably can't even figure out how to log onto windows, much less understand the digital world. He has never held a position in the IT or MIS world. Clearly he was just a puppet. Check out his website at:
http://www.house.gov/coble/
Also, the DMCA was signed by into law by a Democrat. Keep that in mind.
Either way it's a bad law. The world knows it. Simply put; the old farts that have the power, either D or R, simply don't understand the digital world. They never will. Only when younger blood moves to DC will things ever change.
Some days when I return a movie to Netflix, I noticed that it seems to take quite a long time to get back to them. My center is in MD and when the center was first out, I would have my movies checked back in after only 2 days. Now it seems to take 4. My post office service has only gotten better over the years and this seems a little strange. I was thinking about asking for a return receipt on the next couple of movies to see exactly when they receive the item back and when they send me the e-mail stating that they have the movie back. For all we know, they could hold the movie out for 24 hours or more and we wouldn't have a clue!
Genj
While this would work in most cases.. the fact is that you are just going to take it because you will put up with it?
... and drops the service that the company is providing. Just like my cable bill, which just seems to always go up, and up and up each month. $1 here, .50c here.. soon I'll be paying $200 just to have cable modem and HBO! Eventually the consumer needs to seed a message and live without the service, since it's sucking you dry!
The problem with corporations these days is that they will continue to dish it out until the customer gets so sick of taking it, says.. "I can't fucking take it anymore!"
The point is that they filed suit against people that don't do anything more than index the content, just like the poster above said about google, yahoo, etc....
You must work for the RIAA to even spread such propagana.
And exactly who is going to determine "intent to harm or defraud"???
Do they charge you first with a crime, then force you to defend yourself?
Also, if they decrypt your transmissions, doesn't that violate the DMCA?
No it doesn't make any of it right. You're speaking of events 30 years old, after many treaties have been agreed to by the United States and the world.
http://fletcher.tufts.edu/multi/texts/BH596.txt
Everyone should also read this..
http://fletcher.tufts.edu/multi/texts/BH526.txt
"Iraq is a soverign nation"
So that means it's ok for that soverign nation to kill the citizens of there own country in the name of a dictator that doesn't allow you to speak out with your own voice?
Now that's sick irony.
I pray that if the American government ever started to kill it's own citizen's for speaking out that someone would come and liberate us. It's clear it won't be France or Germany.
And I still don't get the reason why people are blind to the fact that the US is doing this for the good of the world.
If Saddam came out and showed us the nuke he had stuck up his ass, the likes of France, Germany, and the anti-war morons would swear up and down that somehow we are to blame.
Here's more irony for your list... Anti-Americanism breeds anti-France/Germany/Russia/EU-ism in turn. Don't be surprised when you find the general American public beginning to hate you.
The media has no given right to be on those ships or with those marines. The military grants them permission and protection after they agree to play by the rules that protect the marines lives. Pretty simple to understand. Again, somehow people keep thinking that life is all about the good of the individual, and not the good of many.
More CRAP from the uneducated.
How dare you compare Bush to Hitler.
Hitler was killing the jews in his own country for years, much like Saddam kills the kurds.
You just need to pray that you live in the United States, and if you don't, pray that the aid checks keep coming to help increase stability in your little world. Those checks come out of my tax money.
"Of course, all these things would be *good*, not *evil* especially for the US. It will help them to get even richer and help enlarging the stockpile of those weapons which they first sold to Iraq, then fight a war to get them fully destroyed. But then - if they wouldnt destroy them, you could not sell new ones to them ..."
All the WMD that you claim the US will 'enlarging' is nothing but bullshit. We have treaties that are going the other direction. We don't make any new WMD's, and we are in the process of taking apart our nukes and those of the former USSR at the expense of the US taxpayer. I don't see France or German writing the checks to take the weapons apart.
It has NO VALUE at all, and it get's a 2? How many 'all your base' posts will it take for the mods to stop modding them up past anything but zero for redundant and USELESS? slashdot is starting to suck ass.
The security council has been useless in this entire situation. They passed 17-18 resolutions that Iraq said fuck off too. the US has missles, that we are taking apart over time due to the fact that we created them first, then we had a build-up of arms to counter USSR. Also you dope, we used them against Hiroshima and Nagasaki to end the World War. You know that little war that killed somewhere around 50 million people? How can the people that don't stand up for the right path sleep at night? Again, let's just all hold hands and pretend everything will be alright. sheesh..
I can't believe how many of you anti-war idiots have been sold the bullshit from the left. Don't accidentally kill the Iraqi people, but go ahead and kill unborn American babies. Don't worry about the fact that for the past 20 years that Saddam has been killing untold scores of people that speak out against him.
/. readers have access to CIA, FBI, NSA, etc reports; therefore, you guys must know EXACTLY what's going on in the world.
Or the bullshit of how the US is responsible for killing thousands of poor Iraqis. Umm none of this would have happened if Saddam wasn't invading other countries and was a civil human being.
Listen to the actors... yeah.. they get paid $10M to lie each film, makes a bunch of sense. Some how they are soooooooo much smarter than us because their agents are able to rip off the world through ticket sales to their stupid ass movie. If they are so fucking moral, then why do they demand $10M a film, when they know that the average working American only brings home 38k a year? Do you really need $10M to lie?
Damn, I forgot, the majority of
Shit, I forgot about the fact that Clinton sent cruise missles into Iraq, Afghanistan, and Serbia.. but the leftists didn't bitch then. It's popular to hate the conservative point of view.
If we all just hold hands and kiss, then maybe the ravages of the world will all just go away. Yeah, peace and love man...
You are all fucking wimps. Keep your shitty little tech job and thank the leaders of this great country that protect you, no matter what the cost. It's the same people that protect you every day from having your wife raped in your own house, or your kids tortured just so you profess how you are guilty against the regime.
You know how many tech job there are in Iraq? Not many, since all access to media and internet is controlled.
You people make me sick.
France, due to it's own trade agenda, they ruined the diplomatic process. They voted for 1441 which clearly stated that if Iraq had any items that they didn't declare to start with, then they were in material breach. Chem/Bio warheads, rockets, drones. all of these items were not declared, and then found. MATERIAL BREACH YOU NUMBSKULLS! But no, France had to keep dragging the facts down into the red tape of process.
Who in the fuck actually thinks that 300 inspectors are going to find a 2 liter bottle of anthrax in a country the size of CALIFORNIA? Are you kidding me? I could hide that in my house for eons and no one would ever know. Bury it in the sand.. anything.. sheeshh.
Fuck France.
-SARCASM
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WTF are you talking about? Yeah. All the parties my white ass went to that gut busted always had the cops politely knock on the door and kindly ask me to lower the noise level. Are you out of your damn mind? I, white male, as a teenager have been stopped so many times and harrassed by the police it's not even funny. Let's see, the two k-9 units that were brought in to jump up on my car and scratch it for no reason other than I was parked in a fire lane with the car running and me in it (I was picking up someone). Or when I was pulled over going to speed limit at 2 am and accused of speeding. Or when I was arrested when my X girlfriend lied to the magistrate that I had harrassed her. Or when I was pulled over for having my windows half-way down in winter by a 'black' cop who called me a punk ass white boy.
Want out fo the ghetto? Take a bus, get a job, get a new apartment.
That does say shit about white people. What is says is that you are like eveyone one else. You are the racist. You just clasified a group of people by their skin color based on behavior. The problem is, people like you only see things with your eyes.
If I tought you as a child that Orange was called Red and Red was ALSO called Red, you would call them both Red as an adult. Or would your human nature force you to clasify it? Clasification lends itself towards racism when people dont have the time to care about details. But the thing you and everyone else keeps forgetting is that they are both colors.
Nothing will change until you stop considering yourself as a insert color here male/female and start considering yourself as an individual.
You're the racist, remember that.
Or if you wanted to stay warm during winter, stay cool during summer, stay dry during rain, get to work in a snowstorm, go off road, have sex in the back seat, party with your friends, get a little excitement out of driving, or keep all your body parts during the transition to the segway (ever see what happens to a person when hit by a dump truck). The Segway is just a failure.. what's the damn point? A horse is a better method of transportation, it's only by byproduct is the usual #1 and #2.
What happens when all the world is "First World"? Then global inflation occurs correct? Prices skyrocket, and then the Class Wars truly begin. Thoughts?
Wrong, 1 and 2 are fine 3) Company relocates to other country and sells products to all their new workers. 4) 50 years pass and repeat step 1 and 2 and replace American with location of company from step 3.** **Dependant on world not running out of oil. If this occurs, welcome WWW III and the end of it all.
Those people that are doing this are those that are already financially secure. What do they care? They haven't seen middle class since they were a child, or perhaps even never. They could all quit their jobs right now and live off the interest alone. But that doesn't matter, enough is never enough. They are FUCKING their middle class neighbor and the result will be the middle class becoming the poverty class and rising up against them. History repeats itself AGAIN, unfortunately we don't have an ocean to sail across to find new hope. The faith part is that we, in the United States and the UK will move on to bigger and better things.. that used to work, but not anymore.
BTW, why do you think this is true?
"But by the time my kids are college-age, god knows what will be left in the US besides burger flippers, doctors, and lawyers."
Who will have the money to pay for a burger or a job that has health insurance to pay the doctor? And the job of the lawyers can go on out the door as well, as shown by the courts of the world. You don't even have to be in a country physically to be sued these days.
Yeah, but what if the "cancel" button is simply labled cancel, when it performs the "ok" function?
When I got the Xupiter crap, I NEVER clicked "ok".. It was installed on my system through a subversive channel.
Funny thing is that I hear everyone joking around about this Xupiter crap, but I don't hear anyone finding out who is responsible. A spammer was featured on this site not to long ago, and within hours we knew where he lived, who his layer was, and we even had a picture of his newly built house. Why isn't this the case with something just as bad, if not worse. Spam can simply be deleted, to the millions of users that can barely turn their computer on without a call to their computer buddy, this is a horrific.
I'm guessing it has nothing, or very little to do with the actual propulsion of the vehicle, but more the power of the on board systems. Most likey the trip will take such a long time that traditional battery systems will not be able to power the craft. Also weight is a huge consideration.. and battery power would add a lot of mass that takes more to move. Traditional propulsion will be used to further the slingshot approach of spinning off the earth. You have to understand that even when sats are placed in orbit, the people at NASA use not only the gravity of the earth, but the moon, venus, mars, etc...