However, the roots (pach = 50, pan = 5) follow the same order as in English
No its the other way around (do you know your Hindi?). Pan (or Van) means 50 and Pach (panch) = 5. See ChhaPan is 56 and TraPan is 53. All numbers in Hindi are like that. Take ChouBees (24), Pachees (25) as examples -
Chou = 4, Bees = 20
Pach (Panch) = 5, (B)ees = 20
So here its the opposite of English in the sense that it is "four and twenty" and "five and twenty". There are some shades of Roman numbers also. For example for all niners are one minus the next tenner, say for 49 the base isn't Forty but rather something like "one less fifty" there fore instead of nouthalees its unchaass
Take a look at more examples here -
http://www.myhinditeacher.com/hinditeacher/speakin g_l14.htm
You'll understand a lot by that table.
Couldn't have said it better about the absolute PITA that Real is for just installing it to look at some Real only content that for some strange reason some websites prefer.
I totally agree with what he is saying instead of plain zealous folks. Do you really want Linux to win by being in such a one sided field? Linux should stand on its own merit as should any commercial software.
Using Microsoft's IDEs - I have VC++ both 6 and 7 - is like pounding nails with my fists.
Have you used Metrowerks Codewarrior? Now there's an IDE. It's a joy to use.
While IDEs can be quite a personal preference thing, you don't quite mention anything specifically about what is so good about the Metrowerks IDE other than it being cross platform and easy to author web pages in(!). I mean come on neither of those are core IDE functionality. I would have given you more credit if you had any pointed things to say about how the Metrowerks IDE is better but as it stands now you aren't very convincing.
If you prefer makefiles, there are command line tools that provide the same compiler.
Huh? This is not a big deal. Almost every compiler in the world can do this including VC++.
Visual C++ can't compile it because of its poor compliance to the standard.
Its quite obvious that you haven't tried VC++ 7.1 (Visual Studio.Net 2003). Its has close to 95% plus ISO C++ compliance. The only major feature missing is "export" which has now been almost officially labelled as a misfeature by the C++ gurus on the standards comittee and no major compiler will implement it. You mentioned having VC++ 6 and 7 and yet you being totally unaware of the fact the most VC++ programmers were long aware that VC++ 7.1 would have close to full compliance, leads me to think that you aren't much a VC++ user and perhaps only use it because you have to.
Microsoft has already done this with Outlook 2003 (Office 11 now in Beta) and in hotmail. Now you can easily block images in HTML email with both of them. And like others suggested if you want to read it as plain text then such an option has existed since a long time.
"He said Veritest used gcc for both platforms, instead of Intel's compiler, simply because the benchmarks measure two things at the same time: compiler, and hardware. To test the hardware alone, you must normalize the compiler out of the equation -- using the same version and similar settings -- and, if anything, Joswiak said, gcc has been available on the Intel platform for a lot longer and is more optimized for Intel than for PowerPC."
What a predictable response. Of course the bechmark measures hardware+compiler since that it the point! You see after all you have to compile most software with a compiler of some sort. Just hardware can give you squat performance. Compilers matter and if Apple doesn't have one good enough to for their CPU then they should know better and stay out of serious things like SPEC.
You know what his argument sounds like? He is trying to compare a Honda Civic to a Corvette saying that the performance of the cars depends on the car mechanicals/engine plus driver and since we don't have good drivers we are going to use 13 year olds to drive both cars so that the driver isn't the issue! Okay this might be a stretch but you get the general idea. Clue to Apple: You need good compilers for getting the best out of your CPU and if you cannot then please stay away from dumbing down your competitors score.
As for GCC being avaliable for longer for x86 than PPC, this is classic Apple trying to mislead. GCC's internal architecture is based on 32 register RISC CPU and hence trying to shoehorn x86isms on it has always been tough. GCC naturally takes to RISC CPUs and in that sense PPC code generation would be more natural for it than x86. He is trying to muddy the water by saying irrelevent things here. Moreover till GCC version 3.1 (which is fairly recent) and above GCC has been pretty pathetic at code generation.
"He conceded readily that the Dell numbers would be higher with the Intel compiler, but that the Apple numbers could be higher with a different compiler too."
What different compiler does Apple have? So then why didn't it show that compiler SPEC scores? Wanna know why? Coz then Intel would have creamed Apple in SPEC scores. Let there be no doubt that Apple chose GCC for one reason only. BTW most serious commercial applications on the Mac are compiled with the Metrowerks Code Warrior compiler and not Apple's GCC. I guess Motorola now owning Metrowerks might also have something to do with Apple's new found love for GCC.
"The scores were higher under Linux than under Windows, and in the rate test, the scores were higher with hyperthreading disabled than enabled. He also said they would be happy to do the tests on Windows and with hyperthreading enabled, if people wanted it, as it would only make the G5 look better."
Of course the score would be higher on Linux since GCC is pretty pathetic on Windows since it has been written with UNIX in mind and not Windows. If Apple has the guts then let me see them compare against the new VC++ 7.1 (with SSE2 support) on Windows. That would lay their claims hollow.
All in all thier whole argument sounds hollow and unconvincing due to the fundamental issue of using GCC for P4. They cannot complain and whine like a sissy that Intel has a better compiler. Apple: Deal with it. Read my analogy about drivers and cars above. Just cars and just drivers don't matter. Its the combination of the car and driver that really wins races. And sometimes a good driver makes up for an okay car and sometimes a good car makes up for an okay driver. So in the end it is the combination that matters and not either of them in isolation. Its a similar thing with CPUs and compilers in computers and if the Apple VPs do not get it then perhaps it might make sense for them to take a Computer Science 101 class in a University.
And I've already run into race conditions in the event handling for C#.
What nonsense! What race conditions are you talking about? Care to give any examples? Note that Event Handling by itself has nothing to do with race conditions. Its probably your own multithreaded code that has race conditions and blaming that onto C# will not get you anywhere. If the C# event handling had such an obvious race probelm it would be known by now. Reminds me of that old saying - "A bad workman blames his tools".
Linux (also in win) you have many different ways to protect your partitions:
None of those ways are very easy to do for a normal user. But 2K/XP make that trivial to do using Properties->Advanced->Encrypt contents... That uses public key cryptography and as long as you protect and save your key no one can easily steal your data.
I think that the difference is important; in Linux everybody know the way to mount partitions and retrieve/change the info inside them. In windows it's suppossed you can't do that.
Huh? You think its that hard to achieve something equivalent on Windows? It is trivial to get around the same thing in 2K also. Here is one simple way - just install another parallel install of 2K and boot into that as Admin, then you have access to all un-encrypted files on the other install (So how come none of the supposed/. alpha geeks could not figure that simple thing out?). So the CD protection is nothing at all. Most likely MS realised how futile all this was and made the XP CD simpler to do troubleshooting.
Yes, which is why this flaw supposedly exists in XP. It does not exist in W2K.
It is trivial to get around the same thing in 2K also. Here is one simple way - just install another parallel install of 2K and boot into that as Admin, then you have access to all un-encrypted files on the other install. So the CD protection in 2K is nothing at all. Anyone who thinks for 5 mins can get around that (I'm amazed none of the supposed/. alpha geeks figured that one out). Most likely MS realised how futile all this was and made the XP CD simpler to do troubleshooting.
India is practically a communist country, and let me tell you their taxes and government restrictions are far more oppressive than in the US.
Huh?! Just what exactly do you know about India other than your general cluelessness about it? Lets see what your American encyclopaedias have to say about India:-
"India's federal political system, a democracy for more than 50 years, has demonstrated a remarkable resilience in resolving domestic and international crises."
"The Republic of India is a federal republic, governed under a constitution and incorporating various features of the constitutional systems of the United Kingdom, the United States, and other democracies. The power of the government is separated into three branches: executive, parliament, and a judiciary headed by a Supreme Court. Like the United States, India is a union of states, but its federalism is slightly different. India's constitution went into effect in 1950, providing civil liberties protected by a set of fundamental rights. These include not only rights to free speech, assembly, association, and the exercise of religion--echoing the United States Bill of Rights--but also rights such as that of citizens to conserve their culture and language and to establish schools to aid this endeavor. The constitution also lists principles of national policy, such as the duty of the government to secure equal pay for men and women, provision of free legal aid, and protection and improvement of the environment. India has universal voting rights for adults beginning at age 18."
I don't see how any sane and educated person can call that "practically a communist country". Let me also tell you something. While govt's in India aren't perfect, taxes in India aren't at all anything unreasonable. In fact I paid about the same %age of tax in India as I now do in the US. And what govt restrictions are you talking about? India is a pretty free country where you can pretty much do anything (other than own guns easily & shoot people like in the US) Dude you are so clueless about India that it seems you have some particular axe to grind bad mouthing India. I thought Americans had more character and value (assuming you are one) than that, having given one of the best forms of democracy to the world, and not make stupid comments calling a democratic country communist. Whats more surprising is that you got modded up so high. What kind of clueless souls modded you up?
> It's dead now, save for use as a microcontroller.
You wish that was true. Its not quite. There are millions of other devices that still use it. Almost all Palm PDA's use it and most of the installed base of set top boxes use it. The AT&T set top box with TV Guide in it uses M68K. And even now most TV software companies are still developing software for the 68K boxes since in TV land (at least in the US) 68K has somewhat of an x86 like installed base. And those cable companies move so slowly that its going to be ages before they replace those boxes what with the downturn. So if you count the installed base of Palm plus TV set top boxes there is big community of developers and software out there for 68K. I call it the revenge of the 68K:) That is one spce where it totally threw out x86.
Okay I'll say it, I've been trying out PressPlay for a while now... Which is pretty decent in many respects (nice interface, convenience, unlimited listening to new songs, unlimited downloads etc) and not so decent in some respects like - downloads are DRM protected and they don't have all the titles etc. But hey for $10 a month it seemed worth while enough to try it compared say XM radio. And this is how they reward me? I personally have a problem with piracy at a moral level when I can afford to buy music, so when I get a half decent legal way to download and listen to music, I have to pay a tax for the piracy that I don't do?! What kind of nut cases are these guys? What kind of message are these twisted sickos sending by doing these things? Do they want to really increase the already intense hatred that people have for RIAA. Why can't these guys do something constructive like having a real nice alternative by enhancing PressPlay to better levels? Even if they manage to get a quarter of the supposed pirate folks to try it out, their revenues would increase many fold. A lot of people probably don't feel very nice about doing the occasional piracy, but where is the godamn alternative? The RIAA should quit whining and cutting a sorry figure and work on having a real alternative to Kazaa and Napster. And no you RIAA idiots you need to put work more into PressPlay in terms of content and rights.
"I Wonder if some of the Indian exports assisted in DPRK weapons systems development?"
This is such a naive statement that shows you really know very little about India! First of all India is a responsible sensible democratic nation that unlike much of the sillyness of the cold war never aligned itself with either side and was a leader of the Non Aligned Movement (NAM) (Which was an organization that thumbed its nose at NATO and Warsaw pact). India has a history of never sharing sensitive technology with rogue nations. India has been doing space/nuclear/computer technology for a long time now (many decades) never mind that most common westerners are getting to hear about it now only (e.g. Did you know we first exploded a nuclear bomb in 1974?) On top of all this DPRK is an ally of Pakistan having supplied the Paki's rockets in return for Nuclear bomb tech. The Paki's can't make a thing on their own. They stole most of nuclear tech from Europe on the sly and got all their missile tech from DPRK. India would never even have decent relations with countries so much in bed with undemocratic islamic radicalists and terrorist infested Pakistan. Please read a bit more of a background research about India and South Asia before wondering such silly things. Is that too much to expect from a Pullitzer Prize winning professor?;) Sometimes the American ignorance about India appalls me.
but they are willing to pass on the source code to a country in the midst of a volatile conflict with a growing nuclear weapons program...
It sickens me to hear this from such holier than thou racist americans. Okay so who thrust the Nuclear genie upon the world? Which is the only country in the world to use a nuclear weapon (against a country that had almost lost the war) and affect millions of inncoent people? And just what Godly right do the americans have of being the only country with a right to nuclear technology? Listen dude, we Indians are smart enough to make nuclear technology on our own. We did it in the 1970's itself but just never flaunted it till recently. And that too we did it when Pakistan's stolen nuclear technology (which the US pussyfootedly turned a blind eye to) forced us to.
And what volatile conflict are you talking about? Oh you mean our tiff with Pakistan? Have you guys forgotten your own cold war with USSR so easily? What was all that for so many years? At least in our case Pakistan was once part of us and who knows me might unite in future like Germany. And don't tell me there isn't any violence in the US. Puhleeze at least in India you don't have to worry about any crazy crackpot being able to buy a gun and kill anyone or school kids getting easy access to guns and killing all classmates. Some people may be poor in India but they sure don't face such silly fears. So buddy the moral of the story is stop bad mouthing other countries and take a look at yourself okay.
And I don't care two hoots if you typical american moderators moderate me to -1 or whatever. You guys are sickos for moderating this guy to 4 in the first place.
Any end user can download Java phone apps from http://www.handango.com/Java.jsp. All you need to have is a browser in your phone that is MIDP (Java J2ME) compliant (and most Java phones are). After you buy an app there normally you'd get an SMS message with a download link. But you don't even need that for trying it out on your own. All you need is the URL to the.jad (MIDP file containing app info) that you can type into your browser and then you'll be able to download it into your phone. I've done this with my Sprint PCS Samsung A-500 phone. For example you can try this expr calc app on your phone http://wapindustrial.com/eval.jad (at your own risk I'm not responsible if it hangs your phone). In fact for any Java app all you need is a link to the.jad file which has valid link info for the app.jar file. You could even create your own apps and upload it to some website to download onto your phone.
Actually export has turned out to be a sort of misfeature. Most C++ gurus have now realised that it doesn't really do what it was hoped it would do. See this -
http://www.cuj.com/current/index.htm?topic=current (Scroll down to bottom) "Sutter's Mill -- 'Export' Restrictions, Part 2
Until further notice: the tariffs on export are too high for everyday use." (The whole article is only available in the print version)
In fact the very first implementation of export has turned out to be a very pyrrhic victory as said by the developers themselves. Turns out that export will need some serious redisign before any of the other C++ vendors will use it. Certainly the intent was good and one needs something like export. But export as it stands today doesn't quite cut it. The basic problem. Its too complex to implement and use and it breaks some other very basic C++ rules when you use it. Also its implementers say that it would be very difficult to give the users a consistent set of rules/advice on how to use it without getting shot in the foot. So looks like we can all forget export for a while. No need to worry about GCC or others not supporting it. Lets all wait for export v2 for that. In any case the C++ comittee agrees that they did too much of an invention with that feature without having the requisite expereince inspite of C++ compiler vendors warnign against it.
Well as quite a few people probably know, its today possible to build a PC for $199 if you get the right components. And it looks like some enterprising souls have already done that. You can buy a brand new $199 PC (Yeah yeah minus the monitor) from this place and website -
http://www.softwareandstuff.com/h_dsk_asusme99700. html
Of course this one doesn't come with an OS but hey there are so many alternatives for that. Its a very decent configuration with an ASUS motherboard and can be easily upgraded later to a higher speed Pentium III CPU and you can also disable the onboard video card and add a better one. Though only PCI video card is possible but you can easily add a cheap PCI version of nVidia GeForce MX cards. All in all pretty good for the price. And if you happen to live in the Bay Area you can drive up to the shop and check it out for yourself before buying it. I intend to see if it is really that well built as it sounds.
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However, the roots (pach = 50, pan = 5) follow the same order as in English
n g_l14.htm
You'll understand a lot by that table.
No its the other way around (do you know your Hindi?). Pan (or Van) means 50 and Pach (panch) = 5. See ChhaPan is 56 and TraPan is 53. All numbers in Hindi are like that. Take ChouBees (24), Pachees (25) as examples -
Chou = 4, Bees = 20
Pach (Panch) = 5, (B)ees = 20
So here its the opposite of English in the sense that it is "four and twenty" and "five and twenty". There are some shades of Roman numbers also. For example for all niners are one minus the next tenner, say for 49 the base isn't Forty but rather something like "one less fifty" there fore instead of nouthalees its unchaass Take a look at more examples here - http://www.myhinditeacher.com/hinditeacher/speaki
Couldn't have said it better about the absolute PITA that Real is for just installing it to look at some Real only content that for some strange reason some websites prefer.
I totally agree with what he is saying instead of plain zealous folks. Do you really want Linux to win by being in such a one sided field? Linux should stand on its own merit as should any commercial software.
Microsoft has already done this with Outlook 2003 (Office 11 now in Beta) and in hotmail. Now you can easily block images in HTML email with both of them. And like others suggested if you want to read it as plain text then such an option has existed since a long time.
"He said Veritest used gcc for both platforms, instead of Intel's compiler, simply because the benchmarks measure two things at the same time: compiler, and hardware. To test the hardware alone, you must normalize the compiler out of the equation -- using the same version and similar settings -- and, if anything, Joswiak said, gcc has been available on the Intel platform for a lot longer and is more optimized for Intel than for PowerPC."
What a predictable response. Of course the bechmark measures hardware+compiler since that it the point! You see after all you have to compile most software with a compiler of some sort. Just hardware can give you squat performance. Compilers matter and if Apple doesn't have one good enough to for their CPU then they should know better and stay out of serious things like SPEC.
You know what his argument sounds like? He is trying to compare a Honda Civic to a Corvette saying that the performance of the cars depends on the car mechanicals/engine plus driver and since we don't have good drivers we are going to use 13 year olds to drive both cars so that the driver isn't the issue! Okay this might be a stretch but you get the general idea. Clue to Apple: You need good compilers for getting the best out of your CPU and if you cannot then please stay away from dumbing down your competitors score.
As for GCC being avaliable for longer for x86 than PPC, this is classic Apple trying to mislead. GCC's internal architecture is based on 32 register RISC CPU and hence trying to shoehorn x86isms on it has always been tough. GCC naturally takes to RISC CPUs and in that sense PPC code generation would be more natural for it than x86. He is trying to muddy the water by saying irrelevent things here. Moreover till GCC version 3.1 (which is fairly recent) and above GCC has been pretty pathetic at code generation.
"He conceded readily that the Dell numbers would be higher with the Intel compiler, but that the Apple numbers could be higher with a different compiler too."
What different compiler does Apple have? So then why didn't it show that compiler SPEC scores? Wanna know why? Coz then Intel would have creamed Apple in SPEC scores. Let there be no doubt that Apple chose GCC for one reason only. BTW most serious commercial applications on the Mac are compiled with the Metrowerks Code Warrior compiler and not Apple's GCC. I guess Motorola now owning Metrowerks might also have something to do with Apple's new found love for GCC.
"The scores were higher under Linux than under Windows, and in the rate test, the scores were higher with hyperthreading disabled than enabled. He also said they would be happy to do the tests on Windows and with hyperthreading enabled, if people wanted it, as it would only make the G5 look better."
Of course the score would be higher on Linux since GCC is pretty pathetic on Windows since it has been written with UNIX in mind and not Windows. If Apple has the guts then let me see them compare against the new VC++ 7.1 (with SSE2 support) on Windows. That would lay their claims hollow.
All in all thier whole argument sounds hollow and unconvincing due to the fundamental issue of using GCC for P4. They cannot complain and whine like a sissy that Intel has a better compiler. Apple: Deal with it. Read my analogy about drivers and cars above. Just cars and just drivers don't matter. Its the combination of the car and driver that really wins races. And sometimes a good driver makes up for an okay car and sometimes a good car makes up for an okay driver. So in the end it is the combination that matters and not either of them in isolation. Its a similar thing with CPUs and compilers in computers and if the Apple VPs do not get it then perhaps it might make sense for them to take a Computer Science 101 class in a University.
And I've already run into race conditions in the event handling for C#.
What nonsense! What race conditions are you talking about? Care to give any examples? Note that Event Handling by itself has nothing to do with race conditions. Its probably your own multithreaded code that has race conditions and blaming that onto C# will not get you anywhere. If the C# event handling had such an obvious race probelm it would be known by now. Reminds me of that old saying - "A bad workman blames his tools".
Hrm.. I wonder if someone has tried to get the reverse to work yet.
See my reply to your post's parent.
Linux (also in win) you have many different ways to protect your partitions:
... That uses public key cryptography and as long as you protect and save your key no one can easily steal your data.
/. alpha geeks could not figure that simple thing out?). So the CD protection is nothing at all. Most likely MS realised how futile all this was and made the XP CD simpler to do troubleshooting.
None of those ways are very easy to do for a normal user. But 2K/XP make that trivial to do using Properties->Advanced->Encrypt contents
I think that the difference is important; in Linux everybody know the way to mount partitions and retrieve/change the info inside them. In windows it's suppossed you can't do that.
Huh? You think its that hard to achieve something equivalent on Windows? It is trivial to get around the same thing in 2K also. Here is one simple way - just install another parallel install of 2K and boot into that as Admin, then you have access to all un-encrypted files on the other install (So how come none of the supposed
Yes, which is why this flaw supposedly exists in XP. It does not exist in W2K.
/. alpha geeks figured that one out). Most likely MS realised how futile all this was and made the XP CD simpler to do troubleshooting.
It is trivial to get around the same thing in 2K also. Here is one simple way - just install another parallel install of 2K and boot into that as Admin, then you have access to all un-encrypted files on the other install. So the CD protection in 2K is nothing at all. Anyone who thinks for 5 mins can get around that (I'm amazed none of the supposed
India is practically a communist country, and let me tell you their taxes and government restrictions are far more oppressive than in the US.
:-
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Huh?! Just what exactly do you know about India other than your general cluelessness about it? Lets see what your American encyclopaedias have to say about India
"India's federal political system, a democracy for more than 50 years, has demonstrated a remarkable resilience in resolving domestic and international crises."
and India's govt
"The Republic of India is a federal republic, governed under a constitution and incorporating various features of the constitutional systems of the United Kingdom, the United States, and other democracies. The power of the government is separated into three branches: executive, parliament, and a judiciary headed by a Supreme Court. Like the United States, India is a union of states, but its federalism is slightly different. India's constitution went into effect in 1950, providing civil liberties protected by a set of fundamental rights. These include not only rights to free speech, assembly, association, and the exercise of religion--echoing the United States Bill of Rights--but also rights such as that of citizens to conserve their culture and language and to establish schools to aid this endeavor. The constitution also lists principles of national policy, such as the duty of the government to secure equal pay for men and women, provision of free legal aid, and protection and improvement of the environment. India has universal voting rights for adults beginning at age 18."
I don't see how any sane and educated person can call that "practically a communist country". Let me also tell you something. While govt's in India aren't perfect, taxes in India aren't at all anything unreasonable. In fact I paid about the same %age of tax in India as I now do in the US. And what govt restrictions are you talking about? India is a pretty free country where you can pretty much do anything (other than own guns easily & shoot people like in the US) Dude you are so clueless about India that it seems you have some particular axe to grind bad mouthing India. I thought Americans had more character and value (assuming you are one) than that, having given one of the best forms of democracy to the world, and not make stupid comments calling a democratic country communist. Whats more surprising is that you got modded up so high. What kind of clueless souls modded you up?
> It's dead now, save for use as a microcontroller.
:) That is one spce where it totally threw out x86.
You wish that was true. Its not quite. There are millions of other devices that still use it. Almost all Palm PDA's use it and most of the installed base of set top boxes use it. The AT&T set top box with TV Guide in it uses M68K. And even now most TV software companies are still developing software for the 68K boxes since in TV land (at least in the US) 68K has somewhat of an x86 like installed base. And those cable companies move so slowly that its going to be ages before they replace those boxes what with the downturn. So if you count the installed base of Palm plus TV set top boxes there is big community of developers and software out there for 68K. I call it the revenge of the 68K
Okay I'll say it, I've been trying out PressPlay for a while now ... Which is pretty decent in many respects (nice interface, convenience, unlimited listening to new songs, unlimited downloads etc) and not so decent in some respects like - downloads are DRM protected and they don't have all the titles etc. But hey for $10 a month it seemed worth while enough to try it compared say XM radio. And this is how they reward me? I personally have a problem with piracy at a moral level when I can afford to buy music, so when I get a half decent legal way to download and listen to music, I have to pay a tax for the piracy that I don't do?! What kind of nut cases are these guys? What kind of message are these twisted sickos sending by doing these things? Do they want to really increase the already intense hatred that people have for RIAA. Why can't these guys do something constructive like having a real nice alternative by enhancing PressPlay to better levels? Even if they manage to get a quarter of the supposed pirate folks to try it out, their revenues would increase many fold. A lot of people probably don't feel very nice about doing the occasional piracy, but where is the godamn alternative? The RIAA should quit whining and cutting a sorry figure and work on having a real alternative to Kazaa and Napster. And no you RIAA idiots you need to put work more into PressPlay in terms of content and rights.
"I Wonder if some of the Indian exports assisted in DPRK weapons systems development?"
;) Sometimes the American ignorance about India appalls me.
This is such a naive statement that shows you really know very little about India! First of all India is a responsible sensible democratic nation that unlike much of the sillyness of the cold war never aligned itself with either side and was a leader of the Non Aligned Movement (NAM) (Which was an organization that thumbed its nose at NATO and Warsaw pact). India has a history of never sharing sensitive technology with rogue nations. India has been doing space/nuclear/computer technology for a long time now (many decades) never mind that most common westerners are getting to hear about it now only (e.g. Did you know we first exploded a nuclear bomb in 1974?) On top of all this DPRK is an ally of Pakistan having supplied the Paki's rockets in return for Nuclear bomb tech. The Paki's can't make a thing on their own. They stole most of nuclear tech from Europe on the sly and got all their missile tech from DPRK. India would never even have decent relations with countries so much in bed with undemocratic islamic radicalists and terrorist infested Pakistan. Please read a bit more of a background research about India and South Asia before wondering such silly things. Is that too much to expect from a Pullitzer Prize winning professor?
but they are willing to pass on the source code to a country in the midst of a volatile conflict with a growing nuclear weapons program ...
It sickens me to hear this from such holier than thou racist americans. Okay so who thrust the Nuclear genie upon the world? Which is the only country in the world to use a nuclear weapon (against a country that had almost lost the war) and affect millions of inncoent people? And just what Godly right do the americans have of being the only country with a right to nuclear technology? Listen dude, we Indians are smart enough to make nuclear technology on our own. We did it in the 1970's itself but just never flaunted it till recently. And that too we did it when Pakistan's stolen nuclear technology (which the US pussyfootedly turned a blind eye to) forced us to. And what volatile conflict are you talking about? Oh you mean our tiff with Pakistan? Have you guys forgotten your own cold war with USSR so easily? What was all that for so many years? At least in our case Pakistan was once part of us and who knows me might unite in future like Germany. And don't tell me there isn't any violence in the US. Puhleeze at least in India you don't have to worry about any crazy crackpot being able to buy a gun and kill anyone or school kids getting easy access to guns and killing all classmates. Some people may be poor in India but they sure don't face such silly fears. So buddy the moral of the story is stop bad mouthing other countries and take a look at yourself okay.
And I don't care two hoots if you typical american moderators moderate me to -1 or whatever. You guys are sickos for moderating this guy to 4 in the first place.
Any end user can download Java phone apps from http://www.handango.com/Java.jsp. All you need to have is a browser in your phone that is MIDP (Java J2ME) compliant (and most Java phones are). After you buy an app there normally you'd get an SMS message with a download link. But you don't even need that for trying it out on your own. All you need is the URL to the .jad (MIDP file containing app info) that you can type into your browser and then you'll be able to download it into your phone. I've done this with my Sprint PCS Samsung A-500 phone. For example you can try this expr calc app on your phone http://wapindustrial.com/eval.jad (at your own risk I'm not responsible if it hangs your phone). In fact for any Java app all you need is a link to the .jad file which has valid link info for the app .jar file. You could even create your own apps and upload it to some website to download onto your phone.
Actually export has turned out to be a sort of misfeature. Most C++ gurus have now realised that it doesn't really do what it was hoped it would do. See this - http://www.cuj.com/current/index.htm?topic=current
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"Sutter's Mill -- 'Export' Restrictions, Part 2 Until further notice: the tariffs on export are too high for everyday use."
(The whole article is only available in the print version)
In fact the very first implementation of export has turned out to be a very pyrrhic victory as said by the developers themselves. Turns out that export will need some serious redisign before any of the other C++ vendors will use it. Certainly the intent was good and one needs something like export. But export as it stands today doesn't quite cut it. The basic problem. Its too complex to implement and use and it breaks some other very basic C++ rules when you use it. Also its implementers say that it would be very difficult to give the users a consistent set of rules/advice on how to use it without getting shot in the foot. So looks like we can all forget export for a while. No need to worry about GCC or others not supporting it. Lets all wait for export v2 for that. In any case the C++ comittee agrees that they did too much of an invention with that feature without having the requisite expereince inspite of C++ compiler vendors warnign against it.
Well as quite a few people probably know, its today possible to build a PC for $199 if you get the right components. And it looks like some enterprising souls have already done that. You can buy a brand new $199 PC (Yeah yeah minus the monitor) from this place and website - http://www.softwareandstuff.com/h_dsk_asusme99700. html
Of course this one doesn't come with an OS but hey there are so many alternatives for that. Its a very decent configuration with an ASUS motherboard and can be easily upgraded later to a higher speed Pentium III CPU and you can also disable the onboard video card and add a better one. Though only PCI video card is possible but you can easily add a cheap PCI version of nVidia GeForce MX cards. All in all pretty good for the price. And if you happen to live in the Bay Area you can drive up to the shop and check it out for yourself before buying it. I intend to see if it is really that well built as it sounds.