"MySQL Enterprise" will not be available for download from MySQL unless you are paying them. Not as a tarball, not from the repositories, not at all.
MySQL assures the community that Enterprise versions of the code will still run on a variety of platforms, not just SUSE and RedHat. However, after extensive discussion between MySQL and the various distros, it will no longer be included in the distros.
If you're using Ubuntu or Debian, for example, you will no longer be able to simply apt-get anything but the community version.
So all the contributions of the community, which includes the various corporations, will only be available if you continue to pay.
Thanks to the GPL, it will be legal to grab a copy off some random torrent you find, sure. If they continue to use the GPL in the future, that is... the transfer-of-ownership conditions in their contribution process means that they can at any time close source the product.
But the free as in low-cost-startup-enterprise and easy as in built-into-your-distro options will no longer be forthcoming.
Think the next big Googlesque garage startup will be using MySQL?
The same guys who lied about the suitability of their code for various purposes from day one
The same guys who maintained that ACID was unimportant until the very moment they had it
The same guys who have been setting this up for years with their Project Mayo/DivX Networks style licensing/contribution scheme
You mean they actually went ahead and tried to use shady shenanigans to force developers who have no need for anything from their organization whatsoever beyond a copy of the community developed codebase to pay for access to the codebase?
Wow. What a surprise.
I made a decision to give preference to PostgreSQL over MySQL in my developments... not because of the technical merits involved, but because of the repeatedly demonstrated lack of trustworthiness of the MySQL team.
I didn't expect to see my decision validated in such a rapid and undeniable fashion though.
Just goes to show... technical skill is no substitute for good character or lack thereof.
The product is the performance. By the talented musicians.
If you don't play guitar, you have no place in the equation.
People and organizations can assert their rights all they want. I won't conform to them.
If I could do so without risk, I would set about having them burned at the stake for daring to make the attempt, starting this very moment.
If any group ever sticks their nose into what I'm doing and try to enforce their so called rights with enough effectiveness to screw up what I've got going on here in my personal life, I will dedicate what is left of my life to destroying them. Preferably with a blowtorch and a pair of pliers.
Clear enough statement of my position I think. No laws or assertions mitigate it in the slightest.
So don't support the Red Cross. Support the St. Johns Ambulance Brigade instead. They can trace their lineage straight back to the Knights Hospitaller in the 11th century... they were the ones who discovered that sharing infected wooden tools between patients causes infection and standardized on metal tools. And, in my opinion, from my personal hands on experience, they give superior training.
On a slightly more serious note, it sounds like they're giving up on having most browsers support CSS styling of XML, and just adding new tags that serve no point other than being CSS targets. Semantically, what's the difference between:
<div class="article">...</div>
And:
<article>...</article>
Answer: Nothing. One is easier to type and less verbose, and the CSS selector rule saves a single character.
The difference is that the first example supports creating powerful css designs that take advantage of inheritance, because the "article" is still a "div", while the second example doesn't take advantage of inheritance, and is thus a step backwards.
US has catastrophic demographic problems... they've been killing too many babies for too many decades, and their Fundies and Unions won't even let them bring in immigrants to keep the lights on.
But it's good that they've eradicated teenage pregnancy and have girls like Winnie to set a good example. You go girl! I'm sure you're going to do something very important with that math stuff some day.
For engineering at least, yes there are things that you learn in the real world that you cannot learn in college, but there is also a large number of things that you cannot learn in the real world but must learn in college.
That is bullshit. Absolute bullshit. As in, it's complete and utter fabrication.
Military engineers shit all over civilian engineers, and the best ones are not the ones that came from university programs. They're the ones that got their engineering experience from practice, not stories, and they're better off for it.
Education for any purpose other than personal self-interest is less than useless, because it doesn't make you competent, and it clutters the field with those who claim to know but do not, making things more difficult for those who really know to stand out from the flock.
There is flat out too much education in this society, and not nearly enough self-sufficient gathering and wielding of power and knowledge for purpose by the common person.
It's a pretty straightforward thing to understand... when education is treated as a business, those who provide the education will provide a financial disincentive to join high paying fields.
That's a big part of why Americans are so damned ignorant. Honestly... who but the pampered few could afford intellectual curiosity in such a place?
This isn't particularly relevant for companies offering a free service, except perhaps inasmuch as how they use the data they collect about you, because they have no contract with you.
It would appear the relevance of this is that you can insist that service providing companies be bound by the contract that you signed up with, rather than whatever their lawyers came up with in the meantime. In other words, that favorite phrase "we reserve the right to change the particulars of this contract" is non-enforceable.
Apple sucks, iTunes sucks, and cell phones suck. Who cares about a Hello World program on yet another handheld device among hundreds that makes phone calls, plays music and surfs the web with a uselessly tiny screen?
Guess which two countries were responsible for eliminating the overseas slave trade? The UK and the United States. Not a single other country in the world stepped up and decided to do anything about slavery. So, really, stuff it.
Yeah. Of course, you guys were the ones doing all the buying...
There is a vibrant mostly-black neighbourhood here in Halifax... five minute walk from here. Why are they here? Because during the decades leading up to the US' decision to stop buying slaves, we Canadians helped people escape from the US, and our Mounties forcibly stopped the American slave traders from coming across the border to re-enslave them.
In the end, after pretty much everyone else had stopped keeping slaves long ago, the US leadership finally abolished slavery because they found a more devious way to keep slaves, regardless. They called it Capitalism.
Of course, anyone raised in the thick of the propaganda machine that is the USA can be forgiven for not knowing any of this. You never lost a war either, right?
Personally, I regularly mispronounce words because I've read them a million times and they're what comes to my head when I try to communicate my thoughts, but I've never heard anyone actually use them. It happens at least a couple times a week.
Does a poor vocabulary mean you have a weak intellect?
Not necessarily.
Does it mean you have poor communication skills, that you depend more on other peoples ability to guess the "gist" of what you're saying, that you are crippled when you try to communicate in the written medium where you don't have access to body language?
A computer learns something that a baby can learn, and this supports the extension that it is "Learning like a baby does"?!? What a load of crap.
And what about this "hard wired vs soft wired" stuff? What is this supposed to prove? If I build a virtual machine, does this "prove" that the machine was made of software?
Researchers examined the hardware of a babys brain, mimic it, and argue that it proves the baby learning language is in software.
None of which is to say that I think language is hardwired, but this is such ridiculous logic it makes me feel stupider for having read it.
I've been thinking about this and discussing it for quite a long time. I've got some great ideas, some plans, and a friend who does genetic engineering has some complimentary ideas that seem promising.
But, quite frankly, I'd rather see humanity burn in flames than see the Americans in possession of the technology.
If the headlines of slashdot link to articles that I cannot read without a paid subscription, like this one, then there is no reason to bother to come here at all.
The thing is, my browser is the most vulnerable application I run. I connect to the most disreputable sites with the browser and it just interprets what they send me. Sometimes by accident, sometimes because that's what I'm looking for... doesn't matter.
So if my browser gets owned by someone and they're able to make it dance to their tune, what ramifications will having Pyro installed when it comes to consequences?
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Yes, some people prefer sending messages to talking. Women in their 20s do it a lot... I see them at parties gossiping about other people at the party, it's really annoying.
If you still need access to Adobe products like Photoshop for print production, like my GF does, there's nothing available on Linux that will do the job.
Linux + Xen + W2K lets her leave the windows desktop and still use these tools.
The purpose of all these scary warnings is simple:
Here's a tool. It will empower you. There are lots of you out there who live in fucked up countries where that's illegal. I'm going to show you the power you're not allowed to use, and I'm going to let you choose... respect your laws and sit there powerless, change your laws so they're not grinding you under, or engage in civil disobedience until you're obligated to choose from options 1 and 2.
There's two ways someone can go when they're empowering people.
Look at Google.
One choice, set up the Great Firewall of America, the Great Firewall of China, etc, and don't let the user do anything illegal.
Other choice, have a link that says "Here's all the stuff your government doesn't allow you to see. It's illegal to click it, you probably shouldn't click it cause you'll get into trouble, and we won't protect you if you do click it, but we'll allow you the possibility to act against your government and leave the enforcement to them."
Open source software will generally take the second choice of the two. Let you see what your government is taking away from you, and let you have the tools to resist if you wish.
If you're afraid of your government, that's not the fault of a piece of software.
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Yeah, I read the article and several others.
"MySQL Enterprise" will not be available for download from MySQL unless you are paying them. Not as a tarball, not from the repositories, not at all.
MySQL assures the community that Enterprise versions of the code will still run on a variety of platforms, not just SUSE and RedHat. However, after extensive discussion between MySQL and the various distros, it will no longer be included in the distros.
If you're using Ubuntu or Debian, for example, you will no longer be able to simply apt-get anything but the community version.
So all the contributions of the community, which includes the various corporations, will only be available if you continue to pay.
Thanks to the GPL, it will be legal to grab a copy off some random torrent you find, sure. If they continue to use the GPL in the future, that is... the transfer-of-ownership conditions in their contribution process means that they can at any time close source the product.
But the free as in low-cost-startup-enterprise and easy as in built-into-your-distro options will no longer be forthcoming.
Think the next big Googlesque garage startup will be using MySQL?
Making money is not a crime folks....
Not yet, but we are working on it.
Wow...
The same guys who lied about the suitability of their code for various purposes from day one
The same guys who maintained that ACID was unimportant until the very moment they had it
The same guys who have been setting this up for years with their Project Mayo/DivX Networks style licensing/contribution scheme
You mean they actually went ahead and tried to use shady shenanigans to force developers who have no need for anything from their organization whatsoever beyond a copy of the community developed codebase to pay for access to the codebase?
Wow. What a surprise.
I made a decision to give preference to PostgreSQL over MySQL in my developments... not because of the technical merits involved, but because of the repeatedly demonstrated lack of trustworthiness of the MySQL team.
I didn't expect to see my decision validated in such a rapid and undeniable fashion though.
Just goes to show... technical skill is no substitute for good character or lack thereof.
The product is the performance. By the talented musicians.
If you don't play guitar, you have no place in the equation.
People and organizations can assert their rights all they want. I won't conform to them.
If I could do so without risk, I would set about having them burned at the stake for daring to make the attempt, starting this very moment.
If any group ever sticks their nose into what I'm doing and try to enforce their so called rights with enough effectiveness to screw up what I've got going on here in my personal life, I will dedicate what is left of my life to destroying them. Preferably with a blowtorch and a pair of pliers.
Clear enough statement of my position I think. No laws or assertions mitigate it in the slightest.
So don't support the Red Cross. Support the St. Johns Ambulance Brigade instead. They can trace their lineage straight back to the Knights Hospitaller in the 11th century... they were the ones who discovered that sharing infected wooden tools between patients causes infection and standardized on metal tools. And, in my opinion, from my personal hands on experience, they give superior training.
More tags for browsers to neglect to implement!
On a slightly more serious note, it sounds like they're giving up on having most browsers support CSS styling of XML, and just adding new tags that serve no point other than being CSS targets. Semantically, what's the difference between:
<div class="article">...</div>
And:
<article>...</article>
Answer: Nothing. One is easier to type and less verbose, and the CSS selector rule saves a single character.
The difference is that the first example supports creating powerful css designs that take advantage of inheritance, because the "article" is still a "div", while the second example doesn't take advantage of inheritance, and is thus a step backwards.
US has catastrophic demographic problems... they've been killing too many babies for too many decades, and their Fundies and Unions won't even let them bring in immigrants to keep the lights on.
But it's good that they've eradicated teenage pregnancy and have girls like Winnie to set a good example. You go girl! I'm sure you're going to do something very important with that math stuff some day.
I think they should be doing something useful... go pop out a couple of babies, ladies.
For engineering at least, yes there are things that you learn in the real world that you cannot learn in college, but there is also a large number of things that you cannot learn in the real world but must learn in college.
That is bullshit. Absolute bullshit. As in, it's complete and utter fabrication.
Military engineers shit all over civilian engineers, and the best ones are not the ones that came from university programs. They're the ones that got their engineering experience from practice, not stories, and they're better off for it.
Education for any purpose other than personal self-interest is less than useless, because it doesn't make you competent, and it clutters the field with those who claim to know but do not, making things more difficult for those who really know to stand out from the flock.
There is flat out too much education in this society, and not nearly enough self-sufficient gathering and wielding of power and knowledge for purpose by the common person.
It's a pretty straightforward thing to understand... when education is treated as a business, those who provide the education will provide a financial disincentive to join high paying fields.
That's a big part of why Americans are so damned ignorant. Honestly... who but the pampered few could afford intellectual curiosity in such a place?
This isn't particularly relevant for companies offering a free service, except perhaps inasmuch as how they use the data they collect about you, because they have no contract with you.
It would appear the relevance of this is that you can insist that service providing companies be bound by the contract that you signed up with, rather than whatever their lawyers came up with in the meantime. In other words, that favorite phrase "we reserve the right to change the particulars of this contract" is non-enforceable.
Apple sucks, iTunes sucks, and cell phones suck. Who cares about a Hello World program on yet another handheld device among hundreds that makes phone calls, plays music and surfs the web with a uselessly tiny screen?
Yawn. Who gives a fuck.
Guess which two countries were responsible for eliminating the overseas slave trade? The UK and the United States. Not a single other country in the world stepped up and decided to do anything about slavery. So, really, stuff it.
Yeah. Of course, you guys were the ones doing all the buying...
There is a vibrant mostly-black neighbourhood here in Halifax... five minute walk from here. Why are they here? Because during the decades leading up to the US' decision to stop buying slaves, we Canadians helped people escape from the US, and our Mounties forcibly stopped the American slave traders from coming across the border to re-enslave them.
In the end, after pretty much everyone else had stopped keeping slaves long ago, the US leadership finally abolished slavery because they found a more devious way to keep slaves, regardless. They called it Capitalism.
Of course, anyone raised in the thick of the propaganda machine that is the USA can be forgiven for not knowing any of this. You never lost a war either, right?
Personally, I regularly mispronounce words because I've read them a million times and they're what comes to my head when I try to communicate my thoughts, but I've never heard anyone actually use them. It happens at least a couple times a week.
Does a poor vocabulary mean you have a weak intellect?
Not necessarily.
Does it mean you have poor communication skills, that you depend more on other peoples ability to guess the "gist" of what you're saying, that you are crippled when you try to communicate in the written medium where you don't have access to body language?
Yes. That is precisely what it means.
How about this?
Some of us have a vocabulary.
We use more unusual words because they more precisely express what we're trying to communicate.
We don't think "What's a smarter-sounding word for 'clearly explain'?". We think "elucidate".
We actually think in these "big words" because we thoroughly understand them and they express what we're trying to say.
Why don't you grab a dictionary and educate yourself instead of throwing stones at your betters and revealing that you don't belong among them?
A computer learns something that a baby can learn, and this supports the extension that it is "Learning like a baby does"?!? What a load of crap.
And what about this "hard wired vs soft wired" stuff? What is this supposed to prove? If I build a virtual machine, does this "prove" that the machine was made of software?
Researchers examined the hardware of a babys brain, mimic it, and argue that it proves the baby learning language is in software.
None of which is to say that I think language is hardwired, but this is such ridiculous logic it makes me feel stupider for having read it.
I've been thinking about this and discussing it for quite a long time. I've got some great ideas, some plans, and a friend who does genetic engineering has some complimentary ideas that seem promising.
But, quite frankly, I'd rather see humanity burn in flames than see the Americans in possession of the technology.
Know what MST3K is? Me neither.
Get the gist of it from the summary? Me neither.
See anything on the linked site that lets you know what the hell they're talking about? Me neither.
Are the moderators on crack?
If the headlines of slashdot link to articles that I cannot read without a paid subscription, like this one, then there is no reason to bother to come here at all.
Don't approve this crap.
The thing is, my browser is the most vulnerable application I run. I connect to the most disreputable sites with the browser and it just interprets what they send me. Sometimes by accident, sometimes because that's what I'm looking for... doesn't matter.
So if my browser gets owned by someone and they're able to make it dance to their tune, what ramifications will having Pyro installed when it comes to consequences?
Yes, some people prefer sending messages to talking. Women in their 20s do it a lot... I see them at parties gossiping about other people at the party, it's really annoying.
Didn't everyone agree a long time ago that integrating IE into the OS and using it as a shell was a bad idea?
So what is it that makes this any different?
If you still need access to Adobe products like Photoshop for print production, like my GF does, there's nothing available on Linux that will do the job.
Linux + Xen + W2K lets her leave the windows desktop and still use these tools.
Pretty straightforward.
Yes.
Clearly, this is a great place to begin a multi-year commitment towards higher education.
They clearly place the interests of their customers first and foremost.
I'm going to send that university a letter telling them I'm not hiring any of their graduates because of their asinine behavior.
The purpose of all these scary warnings is simple:
Here's a tool. It will empower you. There are lots of you out there who live in fucked up countries where that's illegal. I'm going to show you the power you're not allowed to use, and I'm going to let you choose... respect your laws and sit there powerless, change your laws so they're not grinding you under, or engage in civil disobedience until you're obligated to choose from options 1 and 2.
There's two ways someone can go when they're empowering people.
Look at Google.
One choice, set up the Great Firewall of America, the Great Firewall of China, etc, and don't let the user do anything illegal.
Other choice, have a link that says "Here's all the stuff your government doesn't allow you to see. It's illegal to click it, you probably shouldn't click it cause you'll get into trouble, and we won't protect you if you do click it, but we'll allow you the possibility to act against your government and leave the enforcement to them."
Open source software will generally take the second choice of the two. Let you see what your government is taking away from you, and let you have the tools to resist if you wish.
If you're afraid of your government, that's not the fault of a piece of software.