Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep meet to decide who is for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has a gun.
Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep meet to decide how to co-operate on the food supply as free wolves and sheep. Tyranny is when the sheep has a gun, controls the food supply utterly, creates a legal structure that doesn't allow the wolves to go anywhere near it, and offers to allow the wolves to have some food if they find some way to make themselves useful, and he'll let them know when and if he thinks that they are.
I'm sorry- How is an author's desire to get paid for his sweat, labor, and time "obsolete"? On the contrary, I consider that progressive.
Certainly more progressive than the 10,000-year-old practice of "shackling a man" and forcing him to work for free (slavery). The Romans built a whole culture around "educated slaves" who produced written documents and other useful arts. Caesar himself had several enslaved writers. That doesn't mean the American and European Unions should follow down the same path.
When you steal a book, and keep it permanently without compensation, that makes you no better than the Plantation Masters. IMHO.
You mean, where a patron funds you and allows you to live an idle life dedicated to artistic and intellectual pursuits, and you don't need to be responsible for your own welfare, but can live your life in a gilded cage that you built by laboriously fashioning yourself into a creature that doesn't even know how to be self-reliant, let alone want to?
If you want to be paid for your sweat and labour, learn to use a hoe and a hammer. Then you won't need a patron anymore. Bitching about your entitlement to your gilded cage doesn't really evoke the sympathy you think it does.
I don't know about Ubuntu 8.10, but in 8.04 this only leads to changing the desktop background and window styles. I indeed changed those immediately, but was still bothered by the earth tones at the login stage before the main desktop loads.
Your problem isn't technical. It's psychiatric. Go see a shrink about that obsessive disorder, and then everything will seem better.
That's why you immediately install Ubuntu Studio right after installing the base distro. Then it doesn't look so dorky, and you've got all your multimedia needs covered.
Also, you're shoving huge world-wide changesets into single steps here. First, we get EVERY CONSUMER DEVICE IN THE WORLD moved to a trusted computing platform. Note that TC has utterly no foothold in commodity PCs or laptops currently.
Trusted Computing has been built into most desktop PCs since 2004. It's been built into most Laptops since 2006. Intel is integrating TPM into their southbridge this year. It's also installed on every Classmate PC. It's just been sitting there like a landmine, waiting to be enabled.
In Vista, it IS enabled. Bitlocker uses it. That's why Vista has bad driver support. It's not because they suddenly forgot how to interoperate with the drivers after decades of experience. It's because it's locking down non-secure paths and analog holes and that makes things break.
Aside from this, it's also ALREADY integrated into all those set top boxes, and has been for years. When you get a digital cable box, it's got TC and support for the broadcast flag. And they're cutting off analog television broadcasts this year.
This stuff is already in the end game. The time for discussion of "stealing movies and music" is long past.
We'd be missing the point if DRM was primarily (or even AT ALL) used as a censorship tool currently. But it's not.
First, you put the hardware on peoples machines. Trusted Computing module in everyones chips, everyones Set Top Boxes. Then you add software support. That's Windows Vista, and the reason behind the driver flakiness. The set top boxes, they've already got the software, just not enabled yet because the broadcast flag is turned off. Next step, get rid of analog gear, get rid of analog broadcasts. Once you've done all of this, the locks and keys are all set up and can't be replaced, because there aren't any devices to replace em with. THAT is when you start using it in a draconian fashion, when you're already got em locked up tight.
Like I said before, if you think this is about protecting music and movie revenue, you're totally missing the point.
Line-out, line-in, patch cord. What's so difficult?
A rebellious reporter releases non-government-approved-news. The license gets revoked, now you can't play it back, even though you recorded it.
A corporation is engaging in illegal activities that place the public at risk. Someone leaks the documentation. The license gets revoked, now you can't look at the documentation.
A hospital is using proprietary software that uses DRM and phones home. Through error, the licenses don't get renewed. Or, the vendor demands a larger amount of money, and they can't pay it, and they can't move off to another software package because everything is locked up in the vendors software. Suddenly, the whole hospital shuts down. You die in the waiting room.
Who really gives a flying fuck about music and movies? People who think this is about protecting Britney Spears from Bluebeard the Pirate are missing the point....
One of the benefits of this arrangement is securing the existence of the project by involving commercial interests and their money in the process... this is also one of the downsides; having commercial entities charter and lead features of a platform that their own commercial offerings provide 'enhanced' versions of, sometimes leaving the free offering always lacking in one obvious way or another.
In our office, we use Subversion, PHPUnit, Selenium, Xinc and Phing.
Every developer has their own subdomain and associated folder on the LAMP server, and we each check out from the trunk into our web root. We work on our own tasks on our own copy of the web application through sftp or sshfs, and whenever we have a particular piece of work done or a particular bug fixed, we check our work back into Subversion, which immediately kicks off a suite of Selenium tests that takes a couple of hours to finish and emails the whole team a report. If there is already a test suite running, it re-runs the suite again immediately once it's concluded and sends another email.
New versions of the software mean a brand new repository, and the only time we branch is when we want to create a snapshot that we allow clients using the older version to preview and test for usability (as opposed to functionality).
Looks like the reason he likes Git is because he's used to thinking of the other people he develops with as idiots, and it makes it easy for him to deal with them.
The talking down at you attitude is supporting evidence....
yea both totalitarian and communistic ideals are tough. Whether the government is forcing you through physical force or your economic system is starvation you they both go together like pb&j.
At least with Capitalism you are free to tell the second to F-off and either go somewhere else or start your own thing. You are free to feed yourself.
Yeah, you've got it backwards. With Capitalism, everything is already someone elses private reserve, and if they don't want to part with it, you're shit out of luck. With Communism, the bounty of the land is partly yours, and the system has a responsibility to ensure you get what you need.
It's not much of a mangle. "Do what you are told or you will be shot" and "Do what you are told or you will not be fed" are not very far removed from each other.
Considering that one of the central tenants of the Jewish religion is economic exploitation of outsiders, considering that Christianity explicitly allows for the economic exploitation of its adherents and defends the rights of its adherents to economically exploit each other, and considering that the Muslims have had a successfully operating economic system for ages that explicitly disallows the economic exploitation of and by its adherents, I would say it's more likely that Allah will show us the way than the LORD you are referring to.
The evidence lies in the pairing. When you see a political system that has an inherent nature that allows self-determination and involvement, it is paired with an economic system that subverts it. When you see an economic system that does the same, it's paired with a political system that subverts it. In our world, it's Democracy that gives you freedom and Capitalism that subverts your freedom. In eastern countries, it's Communism that gives you freedom and Totalitarianism that subverts your freedom. Free people follow leadership, and are discerning in how they do it. But none of us on this planet live in systems that would allow that to occur.
The problem is money. If we lived in a world where you gained power through the trust and esteem of your fellow man, no one would publish things they weren't confident in. But we don't. We live in a world where you gain power through the accumulation of leverage that allows you to dominate your fellow man despite their wishes and opinions. In this world, who gives a shit if you were wrong or not? Who gives a shit if anyone knows? It doesn't matter, as long as you got paid before they find out. Then you can trample over them either way.
You want to fix it, you move the power basis from economics to politics. Then, people will actually start caring about their reputation. Without addressing this fundamental problem, nothing will change in the slightest.
Need a revolution to do that though... the incumbents will without a doubt use any and all forces that their disposal to prevent a fair and equitable system from ever coming into existence.
Careful, we're talking about lawyers here. By now, someone has probably patented "a method whereby a human is elevated off the ground be means of large vegetable structures for the purposes of punishment".
Try it and you'll be in a world of hurt.
Oh well, gas chambers might be more efficient anyways...
IAAPL (I am a Patent Lawyer)... as an engineer, I loved Slashdot. As a lawyer, I now know better and just come on here for laughs. It's like watching Sarah Palin discuss patent law.
Keep laughing. One day, someone like me is going to string you up in a tree by your neck.
Good god, man. To be rich is to have the freedom to pursue whatever dreams you care about, not worrying that worldly needs will hinder you. To be rich is to be able to influence the world with your pocketbook. And you seem to think that all the rich are evil, having gained their share by evil? I wish I thought you were joking.
Not at all. When this societal meltdown finally comes to fruition, I intend to go on a bloody mass murdering rampage and leave a string of bodies hanging from trees in my wake. I'm really looking forward to it.
Identity theft causes a breakdown in the system that allows a few very rich to wield excessive and arbitrary power while the majority struggles to meet their needs while surrounded by plenty.
I'm not rich. I don't expect to be rich, I don't desire to be rich. To be rich is to stand on the neck of your fellow man and steal his share, and to spend each day ensuring that the exploitation isn't disrupted.
I hope we see more identity theft. This system shouldn't exist, and the sooner it shatters due to its own inherent nature, the happier I will be.
I've got an idea for a much better law. All data must be placed on public servers, like Wikileaks, where anyone can examine it at any time. Anyone attempting to conceal information under any circumstances is guilty of conspiracy and treason. That would make it pretty hard to steal someones identity; you'd be caught for sure.
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Singletons are the loneliest objects that I've ever seen... Factories can be as bad as a Singletons They're the loneliest objects since the Singleton
False is the saddest value that you'll ever know, True, it's the saddest value that you'll ever know...
Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep meet to decide who is for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has a gun.
Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep meet to decide how to co-operate on the food supply as free wolves and sheep. Tyranny is when the sheep has a gun, controls the food supply utterly, creates a legal structure that doesn't allow the wolves to go anywhere near it, and offers to allow the wolves to have some food if they find some way to make themselves useful, and he'll let them know when and if he thinks that they are.
I'm sorry- How is an author's desire to get paid for his sweat, labor, and time "obsolete"? On the contrary, I consider that progressive.
Certainly more progressive than the 10,000-year-old practice of "shackling a man" and forcing him to work for free (slavery). The Romans built a whole culture around "educated slaves" who produced written documents and other useful arts. Caesar himself had several enslaved writers. That doesn't mean the American and European Unions should follow down the same path.
When you steal a book, and keep it permanently without compensation, that makes you no better than the Plantation Masters. IMHO.
You mean, where a patron funds you and allows you to live an idle life dedicated to artistic and intellectual pursuits, and you don't need to be responsible for your own welfare, but can live your life in a gilded cage that you built by laboriously fashioning yourself into a creature that doesn't even know how to be self-reliant, let alone want to?
If you want to be paid for your sweat and labour, learn to use a hoe and a hammer. Then you won't need a patron anymore. Bitching about your entitlement to your gilded cage doesn't really evoke the sympathy you think it does.
I don't know about Ubuntu 8.10, but in 8.04 this only leads to changing the desktop background and window styles. I indeed changed those immediately, but was still bothered by the earth tones at the login stage before the main desktop loads.
Your problem isn't technical. It's psychiatric. Go see a shrink about that obsessive disorder, and then everything will seem better.
that really looks like shit. what's the codename for this release, Barfy Shitstain?
First I laughed. Then I looked at the screenshot. Then I cried. Because, it was all true...
That's why you immediately install Ubuntu Studio right after installing the base distro. Then it doesn't look so dorky, and you've got all your multimedia needs covered.
sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video linux-rt
Also, you're shoving huge world-wide changesets into single steps here. First, we get EVERY CONSUMER DEVICE IN THE WORLD moved to a trusted computing platform. Note that TC has utterly no foothold in commodity PCs or laptops currently.
Trusted Computing has been built into most desktop PCs since 2004. It's been built into most Laptops since 2006. Intel is integrating TPM into their southbridge this year. It's also installed on every Classmate PC. It's just been sitting there like a landmine, waiting to be enabled.
In Vista, it IS enabled. Bitlocker uses it. That's why Vista has bad driver support. It's not because they suddenly forgot how to interoperate with the drivers after decades of experience. It's because it's locking down non-secure paths and analog holes and that makes things break.
Aside from this, it's also ALREADY integrated into all those set top boxes, and has been for years. When you get a digital cable box, it's got TC and support for the broadcast flag. And they're cutting off analog television broadcasts this year.
This stuff is already in the end game. The time for discussion of "stealing movies and music" is long past.
We'd be missing the point if DRM was primarily (or even AT ALL) used as a censorship tool currently. But it's not.
First, you put the hardware on peoples machines. Trusted Computing module in everyones chips, everyones Set Top Boxes. Then you add software support. That's Windows Vista, and the reason behind the driver flakiness. The set top boxes, they've already got the software, just not enabled yet because the broadcast flag is turned off. Next step, get rid of analog gear, get rid of analog broadcasts. Once you've done all of this, the locks and keys are all set up and can't be replaced, because there aren't any devices to replace em with. THAT is when you start using it in a draconian fashion, when you're already got em locked up tight.
Like I said before, if you think this is about protecting music and movie revenue, you're totally missing the point.
Line-out, line-in, patch cord. What's so difficult?
A rebellious reporter releases non-government-approved-news. The license gets revoked, now you can't play it back, even though you recorded it.
A corporation is engaging in illegal activities that place the public at risk. Someone leaks the documentation. The license gets revoked, now you can't look at the documentation.
A hospital is using proprietary software that uses DRM and phones home. Through error, the licenses don't get renewed. Or, the vendor demands a larger amount of money, and they can't pay it, and they can't move off to another software package because everything is locked up in the vendors software. Suddenly, the whole hospital shuts down. You die in the waiting room.
Who really gives a flying fuck about music and movies? People who think this is about protecting Britney Spears from Bluebeard the Pirate are missing the point....
How is this implementation different from any other DRM?
It's the shiniest turd of all!
Reminds me of the Kubler-Ross Grief Cycle.
Shock, Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Testing, Acceptance
This is part of the "Bargaining" phase.
http://changingminds.org/disciplines/change_management/kubler_ross/bargaining_stage.htm
One of the benefits of this arrangement is securing the existence of the project by involving commercial interests and their money in the process ... this is also one of the downsides; having commercial entities charter and lead features of a platform that their own commercial offerings provide 'enhanced' versions of, sometimes leaving the free offering always lacking in one obvious way or another.
What?
In our office, we use Subversion, PHPUnit, Selenium, Xinc and Phing.
Every developer has their own subdomain and associated folder on the LAMP server, and we each check out from the trunk into our web root. We work on our own tasks on our own copy of the web application through sftp or sshfs, and whenever we have a particular piece of work done or a particular bug fixed, we check our work back into Subversion, which immediately kicks off a suite of Selenium tests that takes a couple of hours to finish and emails the whole team a report. If there is already a test suite running, it re-runs the suite again immediately once it's concluded and sends another email.
New versions of the software mean a brand new repository, and the only time we branch is when we want to create a snapshot that we allow clients using the older version to preview and test for usability (as opposed to functionality).
It works well for us.
Looks like the reason he likes Git is because he's used to thinking of the other people he develops with as idiots, and it makes it easy for him to deal with them.
The talking down at you attitude is supporting evidence....
yea both totalitarian and communistic ideals are tough. Whether the government is forcing you through physical force or your economic system is starvation you they both go together like pb&j.
At least with Capitalism you are free to tell the second to F-off and either go somewhere else or start your own thing. You are free to feed yourself.
Yeah, you've got it backwards. With Capitalism, everything is already someone elses private reserve, and if they don't want to part with it, you're shit out of luck. With Communism, the bounty of the land is partly yours, and the system has a responsibility to ensure you get what you need.
I wonder why they compared Firefox 3.1 Beta with IE7, rather than comparing Firefox 3 with IE7 or comparing Firefox 3.1 Beta with IE8 Beta 2.
Doesn't really seem like a reasonable comparison...
It's not much of a mangle. "Do what you are told or you will be shot" and "Do what you are told or you will not be fed" are not very far removed from each other.
The LORD will show you the way.
Considering that one of the central tenants of the Jewish religion is economic exploitation of outsiders, considering that Christianity explicitly allows for the economic exploitation of its adherents and defends the rights of its adherents to economically exploit each other, and considering that the Muslims have had a successfully operating economic system for ages that explicitly disallows the economic exploitation of and by its adherents, I would say it's more likely that Allah will show us the way than the LORD you are referring to.
You did know that Islamic banks are not permitted by law to charge interest, right?
In light of where we currently find ourselves, it almost makes you question which group are the barbarians and which are the civilized ones....
The evidence lies in the pairing. When you see a political system that has an inherent nature that allows self-determination and involvement, it is paired with an economic system that subverts it. When you see an economic system that does the same, it's paired with a political system that subverts it. In our world, it's Democracy that gives you freedom and Capitalism that subverts your freedom. In eastern countries, it's Communism that gives you freedom and Totalitarianism that subverts your freedom. Free people follow leadership, and are discerning in how they do it. But none of us on this planet live in systems that would allow that to occur.
The problem is money. If we lived in a world where you gained power through the trust and esteem of your fellow man, no one would publish things they weren't confident in. But we don't. We live in a world where you gain power through the accumulation of leverage that allows you to dominate your fellow man despite their wishes and opinions. In this world, who gives a shit if you were wrong or not? Who gives a shit if anyone knows? It doesn't matter, as long as you got paid before they find out. Then you can trample over them either way.
You want to fix it, you move the power basis from economics to politics. Then, people will actually start caring about their reputation. Without addressing this fundamental problem, nothing will change in the slightest.
Need a revolution to do that though... the incumbents will without a doubt use any and all forces that their disposal to prevent a fair and equitable system from ever coming into existence.
Careful, we're talking about lawyers here. By now, someone has probably patented "a method whereby a human is elevated off the ground be means of large vegetable structures for the purposes of punishment".
Try it and you'll be in a world of hurt.
Oh well, gas chambers might be more efficient anyways...
IAAPL (I am a Patent Lawyer) ... as an engineer, I loved Slashdot. As a lawyer, I now know better and just come on here for laughs. It's like watching Sarah Palin discuss patent law.
Keep laughing. One day, someone like me is going to string you up in a tree by your neck.
Good god, man. To be rich is to have the freedom to pursue whatever dreams you care about, not worrying that worldly needs will hinder you. To be rich is to be able to influence the world with your pocketbook. And you seem to think that all the rich are evil, having gained their share by evil? I wish I thought you were joking.
Not at all. When this societal meltdown finally comes to fruition, I intend to go on a bloody mass murdering rampage and leave a string of bodies hanging from trees in my wake. I'm really looking forward to it.
Identity theft causes a breakdown in the system that allows a few very rich to wield excessive and arbitrary power while the majority struggles to meet their needs while surrounded by plenty.
I'm not rich. I don't expect to be rich, I don't desire to be rich. To be rich is to stand on the neck of your fellow man and steal his share, and to spend each day ensuring that the exploitation isn't disrupted.
I hope we see more identity theft. This system shouldn't exist, and the sooner it shatters due to its own inherent nature, the happier I will be.
I've got an idea for a much better law. All data must be placed on public servers, like Wikileaks, where anyone can examine it at any time. Anyone attempting to conceal information under any circumstances is guilty of conspiracy and treason. That would make it pretty hard to steal someones identity; you'd be caught for sure.
Singletons are the loneliest objects that I've ever seen...
Factories can be as bad as a Singletons
They're the loneliest objects since the Singleton
False is the saddest value that you'll ever know,
True, it's the saddest value that you'll ever know...
They called it Windows 7 because 7 is a lucky number, and they need all the luck they can get.