Yes, and the problem is a company (or a government entity like a school district) buys this software to block "porn", sees these other categories, and decides to activate them as well.
I've done projects at a number of places like this, and have noted the strangest sites blocked. I mean, sites on finite state machines blocked, mainly because they were affiliated with a non-US university domain (my best guess).
What is scary here isn't the blocking but the fact the blocking list is proprietary and undisclosed. The blocking companies can restrict whatever they want, get use of their software mandated by the government, and suddenly we find environmental organizations' Web sites are unreachable by a huge part of the population.
I am very uneasy with government money spent on secret content filters censoring public resources.
If libraries want to block sites - fine. They should acquire blocking software with an open, published blocking list and be prepared to publicly defend each site they are blocking. Heck, why not just set up a "Censorship Board" and have it meet periodically to get citizen input on what is being blocked?
If the sites you are blocking are so evil, then you should have no problem with ordinary citizens reviewing the ENTIRE blocking process in the open.
Or, why should a company like Websense be allowed to make public policy in secret?
Game's over. A way to definitively stop music piracy has been found. Note the following:
Music Industry Unveils New
Piracy-Proof Format:
A Black, Plastic Disc With Grooves On It
Music bosses have unveiled a revolutionary new recording format that they
hope will help win the war on illegal file sharing which is thought to be
costing the industry millions of dollars in lost revenue.
Nicknamed the 'Record', the new format takes the form of a black, vinyl
disc measuring 12 inches in diameter, which must be played on a specially
designed 'turntable'.
"We can state with absolute certainty that no computer in the world can
access the data on this disc," said spokesman Brett Campbell. "We are also
confident that no-one is going to be able to produce pirate copies in this
format
without going to a heck of a lot of trouble. This is without doubt the best
anti-piracy invention the music industry has ever seen."
As part of the invention's rigorous testing process, the designers gave some
discs to a group of teenage computer experts who regularly use file swapping
software such as Limewire and gnutella and who admit to pirating music CDs.
Despite several days of trying, none of them were able to hack into the
disc's code or access any of the music files contained within it.
"It's like, really big and stuff," said Doug Flamboise, one of the testers.
"I couldn't get it into any of my drives. I mean, what format is it? Is it,
like, from France or something?"
Teenage computer hackers struggled to access the new disc. In the new format,
raw audio data in the form of music is encoded by physically etching grooves
onto the vinyl disc. The sound is thus translated into variations on the
disc's surface in a process that industry insiders are describing as
'completely revolutionary' and 'stunningly clever.'
To decode the data stored on the disc, the listener must use a special
player which contains a 'needle' that runs along the grooves on the record
surface, reading the indentations and transforming the movements back into
audio that can be fed through loudspeakers.
Even Shawn Fanning, the man who invented Napster, admits the new format will
make file swapping much more difficult. "I've never seen anything like
this", he told reporters. "How does it work?"
Pirates: Their days are numbered. As rumours that a Taiwanese company has been
secretly developing a 12 inch wide, turntable -driven, needle-based, firewire
drive remain unconfirmed, it would appear that the music industry may, at
last, have found the pirate-proof format it has long been searching for.
Ridiculous. The police aren't elected either, do you think they have no incentive to protect your rights?
Absolutely. This is why many citizens have called from police review boards responsive to elected officials. Consider, for example the Red Squads of the Los Angeles Police Department. Established outside the review and control of elected officials, the LAPD has seen itself as an elite "government within a government", to the point of keeping files on elected officials.
You are damn right I don't trust unelected and unaccountable police officials!
Re:No, you can't get MTV a la cart, read it again.
on
Cable TV A La Carte?
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... the worst that would happen if you did remove it and they caught you, and this happend several times, is they'd come up to the house and tell you to stop taking it off.
You sure the FBI won't come knocking? Not like it hasn't happened before.
And don't ever underestimate the intelligence of a real live dog. You can teach it to sit, speak, heel - pretty soon you will have your adorable canine finding the prime factors of large numbers. All this for love and a biscuit (see how smart dogs are - they know biscuits are worth more than stock options!)
And dogs provide home security, function as an organic garbage disposal, and of course there are those thrilling moments when your dog has gas. All tender moments of affection an Aibo owner will never know.
EAL4 is the level of assurance - how well the product implements the set of security features. Looks like this is a pretty decent level.
The set of features is (I think) the protection profile (PP). Not sure exactly what the PP is here - the press releases were rather vague, but it may be the commercial adaptation of the old military C2 (discretionary access control).
Before passing judgement, we need to know what the evaluated configuration looked like - what other software was included, what networking features were enabled, etc.
I suspect the reason Linux (or OpenBSD or FreeBSD...) have not applied for this is that it costs money. I'm sure MS paid SAIC a nice bundle for this work. A BIG difference between the Common Criteria and the old Orange Book evals. Under the Orange Book (the old C2), the gov't paid, the trade-off being that they took their sweet time doing the eval. Now we have private labs doing the work - more quickly, but there is always the issue of whether the payment biases the results.
EAL4 - methodically designed, tested and reviewed
EAL4 permits a developer to maximize assurance gained from positive security engineering based on good commercial development practices. Although rigorous, these practices do not require substantial specialist knowledge, skills, and other resources. EAL4 is the highest level at which it is likely to be economically feasible to retrofit to an existing product line. It is applicable in those circumstances where developers or users require a moderate to high level of independently assured security in conventional commodity TOEs, and are prepared to incur additional security-specific engineering costs.
An EAL4 evaluation provides an analysis supported by the low-level design of the modules of the TOE, and a subset of the implementation. Testing is supported by an independent search for vulnerabilities. Development controls are supported by a life-cycle model, identification of tools, and automated configuration management.
West coast scene (whiskey a go-go) takes off after the British invasion: Dead Kennedys, Bad Religion, Black Flag, Minor Threat, Minutemen, Suicidal Tendencies, and a cast of thousands.
Minor nit - "Minor Threat" was actually from Wash DC, not west coast. Fugazi formed from Minor Threat.
Also, when speaking of Black Flag, don't forget the essential role SST Records played in the West Coast punk scene and later 1980's indi scene. Bands like Sonic Youth, Husker Du, all initially recorded for SST.
Not mentioned in other posts and very significant to the whole punk thing was the influence of glitter rock/glam rock, with the NY Dolls being a bridge between the two.
Hard to imagine that before Patti Smith/Sex Pistols/X I actually listened to Peter Frampton. Music before punk was terrible, overwrought, unoriginal (my god, Robin Trower!!).
I wouldn't give the whole credit to Sex Pistols. There really was a movement on many levels - in their own way, Lou Reed, Devo, Television, Pere Ubu, etc. were just as influential.
From my own recollection, between 1975 and 1977, the face of rock music changed radically.
No. Rent The Decline of Western Civilization . A much better film, an attempt at a documentary of the Los Angeles punk scene. SLC Punk is a rather poor movie, more fantasy than anything (though the best scene is at the end when the 2 long haired '70s teenagers discover The Germs and their life is forever changed).
Edgar Varese did some very strange, percussion-based music in the 1920's inspired by mathematics - such as Hyperprism and Integrales. Not 12-tone in the sense that Schoenberg did, but very different in its own way.
He was incredibly an early influence on Frank Zappa.
I'm not a music student, just an educated listener. Maybe someone better versed in 20th century music than I am can comment on the relevance of Varese to mathmatically-inspired music.
Yes, freedom of the press should mean that. Yes I even almost *remember* the Pentagon Papers. Ellsburg actually went to trial on that one (I think). This was in the late 1960's, a very very different time. In the current political climate, I would place some money that he would be convicted, or that the NY Times would be too terrified of the consequences to publish. I mean, we now have the FBI threatening elected representatives with lie detector tests for information leaked to the press. The "sensitive but unclassified" stuff really *is* keeping information out of the public's hands.
So they "purchased" Intellectual Property fair-and-square, and are now aggressively going after anyone who is "stealing" their property?
So tell me what makes them different from the RIAA? If they are successful, will they get Congress to pass laws extending the life of patents indefinitely? Will famous celebrities (Britney, etc.) do public service announcements telling people not to violate these patents by patronizing the evil scofflaws that run e-commerce sites? Will we see ISPs forced to provide customer information, as they track down violators? Will sites providing free open source ecommerce software be taken down?
If you did something illegal you may have to face the consequences.
Being a member of the press does not allow nor should it permit you to violate laws that apply to all other people.
This is not a matter of reporter's violating a law unrelated to news gathering - this has to do with laws with the specific effect of making news gathering difficult. The security lines referred to here are (likely) not simply ones that even-handedly protect public safety, but more likely refer to those designed to prevent public knowledge of facts some in the government would rather keep private. Restricting access to government facilities is a very convenient way of preventing the public from knowing what goes on in these facilities. A bit like the "sensitive but unclassified" label that is now preventing all sorts of information from public review (e.g., basic scientific research, workplace injuries in chemical plants, etc.)
If suddenly reporting on discussions of certain goverment agencies were made illegal, this would be an abridgement of the ability of the press to operate, even though the law would "apply to all other people" as well. The issue isn't whether the press should be able to disobey laws "that apply to other people", but whether these laws create a huge obstacle to basic information getting out to the public.
True enough... but using logic like "I trust banks, so why not trust MS" is pure lunacy..
Banks are required (by law) to be FDIC insured. There is none of this "we take no responsibility for your money - if we get robbed, you'll lose it, even if it was our fault" mentality that MS seems to have (read your EULA some time)
And keep in mind that banks weren't always so trustworthy, and that it has taken centuries of bank failures resulting in economic slowdowns before we have reached the current state of "trust". The first central bank in the US was chartered in 1791. Nationally chartered banks were established in the mid 19th century, to ensure a stable consistent national currency. The current Federal Reserve system was established in 1914. Bank failures during the great depression of the early 1930's resulted in more regulation under the New Deal.
Banks were once not considered trustworthy - hence the tales of old folks with their life's savings hidden under their mattress. The current state of trust in banking institution results from a long painful history of experiments, failures (and lost savings) and government regulation. Banks are perhaps the most regulated and most audited commercial organizations in the country.
Banks have had to earn their trust in ways Microsoft never has (and likely never will)
Once again/. gets news AFTER it happens. Mixing human and pig genetic material has been around for a while - in fact one of the early experiments ended up as a roommate of mine.
My question is: Is this a coincidence, or is their a link between your music (and spoken word) and this electronics experimentation? And did this encounter with Greg Ginn's business prepare you in any way for JYW?
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Yes, and the problem is a company (or a government entity like a school district) buys this software to block "porn", sees these other categories, and decides to activate them as well. I've done projects at a number of places like this, and have noted the strangest sites blocked. I mean, sites on finite state machines blocked, mainly because they were affiliated with a non-US university domain (my best guess). What is scary here isn't the blocking but the fact the blocking list is proprietary and undisclosed. The blocking companies can restrict whatever they want, get use of their software mandated by the government, and suddenly we find environmental organizations' Web sites are unreachable by a huge part of the population. I am very uneasy with government money spent on secret content filters censoring public resources. If libraries want to block sites - fine. They should acquire blocking software with an open, published blocking list and be prepared to publicly defend each site they are blocking. Heck, why not just set up a "Censorship Board" and have it meet periodically to get citizen input on what is being blocked? If the sites you are blocking are so evil, then you should have no problem with ordinary citizens reviewing the ENTIRE blocking process in the open. Or, why should a company like Websense be allowed to make public policy in secret?
BR
If so, who won?
L.A. Secret Police: Inside the Lapd Elite Spy Network by Mike Rothmiller, Ivan G. Goldman (Mass Market Paperback - August 1992)
Absolutely. This is why many citizens have called from police review boards responsive to elected officials. Consider, for example the Red Squads of the Los Angeles Police Department. Established outside the review and control of elected officials, the LAPD has seen itself as an elite "government within a government", to the point of keeping files on elected officials.
You are damn right I don't trust unelected and unaccountable police officials!
You sure the FBI won't come knocking? Not like it hasn't happened before.
I'm sure this feature will be available as a future firmware upgrade...
And dogs provide home security, function as an organic garbage disposal, and of course there are those thrilling moments when your dog has gas. All tender moments of affection an Aibo owner will never know.
The set of features is (I think) the protection profile (PP). Not sure exactly what the PP is here - the press releases were rather vague, but it may be the commercial adaptation of the old military C2 (discretionary access control).
Before passing judgement, we need to know what the evaluated configuration looked like - what other software was included, what networking features were enabled, etc.
I suspect the reason Linux (or OpenBSD or FreeBSD...) have not applied for this is that it costs money. I'm sure MS paid SAIC a nice bundle for this work. A BIG difference between the Common Criteria and the old Orange Book evals. Under the Orange Book (the old C2), the gov't paid, the trade-off being that they took their sweet time doing the eval. Now we have private labs doing the work - more quickly, but there is always the issue of whether the payment biases the results.
FYI, here is what the Common Criteria says about EAL4:
EAL4 - methodically designed, tested and reviewed EAL4 permits a developer to maximize assurance gained from positive security engineering based on good commercial development practices. Although rigorous, these practices do not require substantial specialist knowledge, skills, and other resources. EAL4 is the highest level at which it is likely to be economically feasible to retrofit to an existing product line. It is applicable in those circumstances where developers or users require a moderate to high level of independently assured security in conventional commodity TOEs, and are prepared to incur additional security-specific engineering costs. An EAL4 evaluation provides an analysis supported by the low-level design of the modules of the TOE, and a subset of the implementation. Testing is supported by an independent search for vulnerabilities. Development controls are supported by a life-cycle model, identification of tools, and automated configuration management.
Minor nit - "Minor Threat" was actually from Wash DC, not west coast. Fugazi formed from Minor Threat.
Also, when speaking of Black Flag, don't forget the essential role SST Records played in the West Coast punk scene and later 1980's indi scene. Bands like Sonic Youth, Husker Du, all initially recorded for SST.
Not mentioned in other posts and very significant to the whole punk thing was the influence of glitter rock/glam rock, with the NY Dolls being a bridge between the two.
Hard to imagine that before Patti Smith/Sex Pistols/X I actually listened to Peter Frampton. Music before punk was terrible, overwrought, unoriginal (my god, Robin Trower!!).
I wouldn't give the whole credit to Sex Pistols. There really was a movement on many levels - in their own way, Lou Reed, Devo, Television, Pere Ubu, etc. were just as influential.
From my own recollection, between 1975 and 1977, the face of rock music changed radically.
No. Rent The Decline of Western Civilization . A much better film, an attempt at a documentary of the Los Angeles punk scene. SLC Punk is a rather poor movie, more fantasy than anything (though the best scene is at the end when the 2 long haired '70s teenagers discover The Germs and their life is forever changed).
It looks like Richard James
He was incredibly an early influence on Frank Zappa.
I'm not a music student, just an educated listener. Maybe someone better versed in 20th century music than I am can comment on the relevance of Varese to mathmatically-inspired music.
Yes, freedom of the press should mean that. Yes I even almost *remember* the Pentagon Papers. Ellsburg actually went to trial on that one (I think). This was in the late 1960's, a very very different time. In the current political climate, I would place some money that he would be convicted, or that the NY Times would be too terrified of the consequences to publish. I mean, we now have the FBI threatening elected representatives with lie detector tests for information leaked to the press. The "sensitive but unclassified" stuff really *is* keeping information out of the public's hands.
Yeah, I have a copyright on the letter "e". You owe me big time!
Proving that you (Germany) still remember what that war was fought over, and that the US has completely forgotten.
So tell me what makes them different from the RIAA? If they are successful, will they get Congress to pass laws extending the life of patents indefinitely? Will famous celebrities (Britney, etc.) do public service announcements telling people not to violate these patents by patronizing the evil scofflaws that run e-commerce sites? Will we see ISPs forced to provide customer information, as they track down violators? Will sites providing free open source ecommerce software be taken down?
PanIP, meet Hillary Rosen
This is not a matter of reporter's violating a law unrelated to news gathering - this has to do with laws with the specific effect of making news gathering difficult. The security lines referred to here are (likely) not simply ones that even-handedly protect public safety, but more likely refer to those designed to prevent public knowledge of facts some in the government would rather keep private. Restricting access to government facilities is a very convenient way of preventing the public from knowing what goes on in these facilities. A bit like the "sensitive but unclassified" label that is now preventing all sorts of information from public review (e.g., basic scientific research, workplace injuries in chemical plants, etc.)
If suddenly reporting on discussions of certain goverment agencies were made illegal, this would be an abridgement of the ability of the press to operate, even though the law would "apply to all other people" as well. The issue isn't whether the press should be able to disobey laws "that apply to other people", but whether these laws create a huge obstacle to basic information getting out to the public.
Why? It's the most powerful substance known to humanity.
And keep in mind that banks weren't always so trustworthy, and that it has taken centuries of bank failures resulting in economic slowdowns before we have reached the current state of "trust". The first central bank in the US was chartered in 1791. Nationally chartered banks were established in the mid 19th century, to ensure a stable consistent national currency. The current Federal Reserve system was established in 1914. Bank failures during the great depression of the early 1930's resulted in more regulation under the New Deal.
Banks were once not considered trustworthy - hence the tales of old folks with their life's savings hidden under their mattress. The current state of trust in banking institution results from a long painful history of experiments, failures (and lost savings) and government regulation. Banks are perhaps the most regulated and most audited commercial organizations in the country.
Banks have had to earn their trust in ways Microsoft never has (and likely never will)
Not a very neat fellow by the way.
My question is: Is this a coincidence, or is their a link between your music (and spoken word) and this electronics experimentation? And did this encounter with Greg Ginn's business prepare you in any way for JYW?
Will your band ("Marine Research") be touring anytime soon? Can we expect to see them in USA?
Has anyone ever asked you if "Full Metal Challenge" was a sequel to "The Osbournes"?