and you are a corp's wet dream. good little WORKER BEE.
"pick up that can, citizen."
Hahahaha! Nope.:) I am now well into that age were people say you can not get a job in IT anymore. (And yet still do easily)
And yes, I am a dream, because by the time the contract with me they have burned a lot of time and money on a project and still do not have what they need. So they cough up my bill rate, and are often surprised by how fast I finish, and how much less they spent then they thought.
My grandfather used to say "You can make excuses or you can make money, but you have to choose one.":) I prefer money.
So you make work your life for nothing other than to gain "things"
Some of us work hard because we like what we are doing.
This right here! If you love what you do, it is not really "work" in the sense that McBurger flipper is. Personally, I get to play with really cool toys and do interesting things, and they also give me money! Way cool!
However, I expect this is more directed towards those who have email on their phones and alerts set to chime every time they get an email. (Which, with the volume of junk mail I receive every day, makes me question the sanity of anyone who would do this.)
You can turn this off, or schedule it to only alert during working hours. If you do not, that is both your choice, and your problem.
I am very unproductive in an open office and I will say so. Quite a few times I have leveraged that into working from home.:) They get less office space and less cost, and I get to work in my slippers. Win, win!
This ( and the responses ) are a perfect example of the lack of communication going on over this issue. "The Boss" said one thing, and "the employees" heard another. It looks like bosses need to be a lot more clear in what the expectations are. And how compensation will work for specifically defined "emergencies." Or, people get upset over potential abuses, because some bosses will abuse them.
FYI: My personal practice is that my response depends on the medium. If you e-mail or text me, I will get back to you at my convenience. If you need me right now, you need to call (or something else directly interactive) and know that I have answered.
Seeing as how they set the price for their OS as "free" that will not work. And if they try and pull that, enough people may opt out of the class and sue individually.
Linux on the desktop is getting better, but it's still things like this that torpedo adoption. And trying to pretend it's sunshine and puppies is not helping either.
Well it is sunshine and puppies when you use native apps.:) Especially apps like the free pdf-shuffler that is so much easier (and cheaper) then anything from Adobe! (for example)
Much as I hate to, I agree. With the new Spybot Anti-becon, https://www.safer-networking.o... it is actually reasonable other then the ugly phone UI which should go away now. But I still the the options will look better in 4 years when Win7 support ends.
Yes, because in 4 years when support ends they will be buying a new computer. And at that point there may be other options then Windows 10, be it Windows 11, Mac, Linux, or Droid for Desktops.:) Who know what the future may hold.
As I was being handed a check from one of my clients for un-fucking his computer, he was talking about the possible class action against MS. If it happens, it may end Microsoft as we know it.
They listed in the article how many times it was un-hidden... May 3, March 23, Feb. 23, and Dec. 15 and then in 2015 on Oct. 5, Oct. 1, July 9, May 14, April 3, or March 27
Yeah except no. People choose Windows because Linux doesn't run the software they want (at least not without Wine hackery or other such nonsense).
Really? FaceBook, Twitter, and Instagram all seem to work fine. Netflix too with a tiny bit of effort. And my Steam has a backlog of games I bought on sale and have not even downloaded yet! The bigest holdouts I had seen consulting were Exchange (now onliine and works in Linux) and Quickbooks (Which has now gotten just as good with the online version) So which software are you speaking of?
Get angry - but for years idiots like yourself screamed about Microsoft not being security conscious.
Name calling is your argument? OK, poopie head.
Well this is what security is - you FORCE people to take updates, because otherwise idiots (like yourself) don't update and then holler when some malware comes out and exploits security holes that were patched months back.
Because updates and patches never break things, and should never be tested. Like those odd one off applications that are no longer supported but your business needs and you can't make run in WINE.
I'm not being a troll or whatever - I literally think some of you people are freaking morons.
Just read that out loud and see if you can see anything wrong with that statement.
Windows 7/8 is nearing its end of life and instead of updating with a FREE upgrade, you refuse.
So are 2020 and 2023 really that close for you? And do you really think there will be no other options then Windows 10 in the next 4-7 years? And do you refuse to use that MRI machine that is run by Windows XP?
You're worried about Microsoft's anonymous tracking system?
You're not? After all the deceptive things they have done over the years, you trust them to be trustworthy, AND to keep them both anonymous and secure? Are you high?
I hope you run EVERYTHING through an encrypted VPN and that you trust your VPN provider. I hope you trust your ISP. I hope you trust your email provider and I hope you trust you cellular carrier.
I do a lot, and I AM my VPN provider, and hell no I do not trust my ISP, and my carrier is Verizon, so I think that answers the last concern.
Because you don't have privacy when it comes to technology - not without limiting what you do and jumping through a ton of loopholes.
Yes, if you want privacy today, you have to work at it. Also, if you want a nice car today, you have to work at it. Some of us want those things.
Don't do illegal things, dont' download CP, and don't be an asshat and no one will care what you do. You're not that important. You're just stupid.
That is also patently untrue. Do you disagree with any political party? Do you have any feelings about immigration, gun rights, abortion rights, capital punishment, police violence, free trade, or taxation? Do you have any money or viable credit? (We already know you are an asshat, so we have that box checked...) Then, yes, some people have a vested interest in knowing what you are doing.
Honestly? Get real. 99.9% of the people who are having Win10 shoved down their throats don't even know what Linux is, let alone would even consider switching to it as a desktop OS.
I guess that is technically true since those who do know what it is are switching. I have had more people ask me about switching in the last 2 weeks then I have in the last 2 years.
I work with it daily and even I don't have Linux as a desktop OS at home by choice for a variety of reasons, and don't have it as a desktop OS at work per corporate policy.
Funny. I work with Windows daily as an independent consultant, and I do not have Windows installed on anything I own other then in a VM. RDP works fine from Linux, and everything else works better.
And 98% of those people who had Win10 foisted on them don't really mind after the initial getting used to it period.
Helsinki syndrome?:) But by the same token, most of the people I have exposed to a modern Linux desktop are THRILLED with it after the adjustment period.
One of the people I work with is one of the biggest technophobes you'd ever meet. One morning several months ago, she came in and was practically in tears after accidentally agreeing to the upgrade, and then almost lost her mind when she asked me if there was some easy way to go back to Windows 8 and I had to tell her no.
So was that an intentional lie, or did you really not know? You see it is things like this that make people question the credibility of the entire Windows ecosystem.
A week later she's telling me how Windows 10 is just as good or perhaps even a bit better and easier to use than Windows 8 and she's glad she upgraded.
I hear the same thing from new Mac and Linux users. Funny how that works.
When you expressly uncheck and hide an update, this is not permission. As a matter of fact, it is explicitly the opposite of permission. And re-enabling it is going directly against your previously expressed intent. Speciffically, expressed on May 3, March 23, Feb. 23, and Dec. 15 and then in 2015 on Oct. 5, Oct. 1, July 9, May 14, April 3, or March 27 which we all times this specific update was unhidden against your wishes.
Of course, even with the apps it keeps installing all the addware and telemitry. Here is a list of things to remove, and remove again, and again and again... http://www.dslreports.com/foru...
And I would pay more for a cheap China knockoff if they would guarantee 5 years of updates. I might pay double since they are so cheap! But I will not pay as I go. And I will NOT pay $600 for something that will be abandoned in 2 years.
Even Microsoft can make an OS that doesn't require the manufacturer's blessing to install updates. Google needs to fix the OS, not the OEMS.
Google (or Microsoft) makes the OS, but HTC (or Gigabite) makes the drivers for the hardware. No drivers, no update. Ask some Windows 10 "upgrade" victims about that. (And Arm hardware is even less standardized then PC hardware!)
FYI, you can download and install the latest Android any time. Just be ready to loose some functionality as the hardware has no drivers.
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you are young. I can tell.
and you are a corp's wet dream. good little WORKER BEE.
"pick up that can, citizen."
Hahahaha! Nope. :) I am now well into that age were people say you can not get a job in IT anymore. (And yet still do easily)
:) I prefer money.
And yes, I am a dream, because by the time the contract with me they have burned a lot of time and money on a project and still do not have what they need. So they cough up my bill rate, and are often surprised by how fast I finish, and how much less they spent then they thought.
My grandfather used to say "You can make excuses or you can make money, but you have to choose one."
Some of us work hard because we like what we are doing.
This right here! If you love what you do, it is not really "work" in the sense that McBurger flipper is. Personally, I get to play with really cool toys and do interesting things, and they also give me money! Way cool!
Jeez, just let people decide if they want to check their work emails. Is no-one an adult any more?
Nope. Or at least is seems that way more and more each day. (Please protect me from the big, bad world!)
However, I expect this is more directed towards those who have email on their phones and alerts set to chime every time they get an email. (Which, with the volume of junk mail I receive every day, makes me question the sanity of anyone who would do this.)
You can turn this off, or schedule it to only alert during working hours. If you do not, that is both your choice, and your problem.
I am very unproductive in an open office and I will say so. Quite a few times I have leveraged that into working from home. :) They get less office space and less cost, and I get to work in my slippers. Win, win!
This ( and the responses ) are a perfect example of the lack of communication going on over this issue. "The Boss" said one thing, and "the employees" heard another. It looks like bosses need to be a lot more clear in what the expectations are. And how compensation will work for specifically defined "emergencies." Or, people get upset over potential abuses, because some bosses will abuse them.
FYI: My personal practice is that my response depends on the medium. If you e-mail or text me, I will get back to you at my convenience. If you need me right now, you need to call (or something else directly interactive) and know that I have answered.
Seeing as how they set the price for their OS as "free" that will not work. And if they try and pull that, enough people may opt out of the class and sue individually.
Linux on the desktop is getting better, but it's still things like this that torpedo adoption. And trying to pretend it's sunshine and puppies is not helping either.
Well it is sunshine and puppies when you use native apps. :) Especially apps like the free pdf-shuffler that is so much easier (and cheaper) then anything from Adobe! (for example)
Much as I hate to, I agree. With the new Spybot Anti-becon, https://www.safer-networking.o... it is actually reasonable other then the ugly phone UI which should go away now. But I still the the options will look better in 4 years when Win7 support ends.
Are people planning to never upgrade?
Yes, because in 4 years when support ends they will be buying a new computer. And at that point there may be other options then Windows 10, be it Windows 11, Mac, Linux, or Droid for Desktops. :) Who know what the future may hold.
Just wait for it to roll out to you.
What the FUCK are they thinking? I'm a paid customer for 20 years now and they think they can fuck with me like this?
Now?
As I was being handed a check from one of my clients for un-fucking his computer, he was talking about the possible class action against MS. If it happens, it may end Microsoft as we know it.
To be fair, both "solutions" will create new problems. But perhaps less problematic then what Microsoft is pushing.
They listed in the article how many times it was un-hidden... May 3, March 23, Feb. 23, and Dec. 15 and then in 2015 on Oct. 5, Oct. 1, July 9, May 14, April 3, or March 27
Yeah except no. People choose Windows because Linux doesn't run the software they want (at least not without Wine hackery or other such nonsense).
Really? FaceBook, Twitter, and Instagram all seem to work fine. Netflix too with a tiny bit of effort. And my Steam has a backlog of games I bought on sale and have not even downloaded yet! The bigest holdouts I had seen consulting were Exchange (now onliine and works in Linux) and Quickbooks (Which has now gotten just as good with the online version) So which software are you speaking of?
Get angry - but for years idiots like yourself screamed about Microsoft not being security conscious.
Name calling is your argument? OK, poopie head.
Well this is what security is - you FORCE people to take updates, because otherwise idiots (like yourself) don't update and then holler when some malware comes out and exploits security holes that were patched months back.
Because updates and patches never break things, and should never be tested. Like those odd one off applications that are no longer supported but your business needs and you can't make run in WINE.
I'm not being a troll or whatever - I literally think some of you people are freaking morons.
Just read that out loud and see if you can see anything wrong with that statement.
Windows 7/8 is nearing its end of life and instead of updating with a FREE upgrade, you refuse.
So are 2020 and 2023 really that close for you? And do you really think there will be no other options then Windows 10 in the next 4-7 years? And do you refuse to use that MRI machine that is run by Windows XP?
You're worried about Microsoft's anonymous tracking system?
You're not? After all the deceptive things they have done over the years, you trust them to be trustworthy, AND to keep them both anonymous and secure? Are you high?
I hope you run EVERYTHING through an encrypted VPN and that you trust your VPN provider. I hope you trust your ISP. I hope you trust your email provider and I hope you trust you cellular carrier.
I do a lot, and I AM my VPN provider, and hell no I do not trust my ISP, and my carrier is Verizon, so I think that answers the last concern.
Because you don't have privacy when it comes to technology - not without limiting what you do and jumping through a ton of loopholes.
Yes, if you want privacy today, you have to work at it. Also, if you want a nice car today, you have to work at it. Some of us want those things.
Don't do illegal things, dont' download CP, and don't be an asshat and no one will care what you do. You're not that important. You're just stupid.
That is also patently untrue. Do you disagree with any political party? Do you have any feelings about immigration, gun rights, abortion rights, capital punishment, police violence, free trade, or taxation? Do you have any money or viable credit? (We already know you are an asshat, so we have that box checked...) Then, yes, some people have a vested interest in knowing what you are doing.
Honestly? Get real. 99.9% of the people who are having Win10 shoved down their throats don't even know what Linux is, let alone would even consider switching to it as a desktop OS.
I guess that is technically true since those who do know what it is are switching. I have had more people ask me about switching in the last 2 weeks then I have in the last 2 years.
I work with it daily and even I don't have Linux as a desktop OS at home by choice for a variety of reasons, and don't have it as a desktop OS at work per corporate policy.
Funny. I work with Windows daily as an independent consultant, and I do not have Windows installed on anything I own other then in a VM. RDP works fine from Linux, and everything else works better.
And 98% of those people who had Win10 foisted on them don't really mind after the initial getting used to it period.
Helsinki syndrome? :) But by the same token, most of the people I have exposed to a modern Linux desktop are THRILLED with it after the adjustment period.
One of the people I work with is one of the biggest technophobes you'd ever meet. One morning several months ago, she came in and was practically in tears after accidentally agreeing to the upgrade, and then almost lost her mind when she asked me if there was some easy way to go back to Windows 8 and I had to tell her no.
So was that an intentional lie, or did you really not know? You see it is things like this that make people question the credibility of the entire Windows ecosystem.
A week later she's telling me how Windows 10 is just as good or perhaps even a bit better and easier to use than Windows 8 and she's glad she upgraded.
I hear the same thing from new Mac and Linux users. Funny how that works.
When you expressly uncheck and hide an update, this is not permission. As a matter of fact, it is explicitly the opposite of permission. And re-enabling it is going directly against your previously expressed intent. Speciffically, expressed on May 3, March 23, Feb. 23, and Dec. 15 and then in 2015 on Oct. 5, Oct. 1, July 9, May 14, April 3, or March 27 which we all times this specific update was unhidden against your wishes.
Of course, even with the apps it keeps installing all the addware and telemitry. Here is a list of things to remove, and remove again, and again and again... http://www.dslreports.com/foru...
and get free updates. Thanks
And I would pay more for a cheap China knockoff if they would guarantee 5 years of updates. I might pay double since they are so cheap! But I will not pay as I go. And I will NOT pay $600 for something that will be abandoned in 2 years.
Even Microsoft can make an OS that doesn't require the manufacturer's blessing to install updates. Google needs to fix the OS, not the OEMS.
Google (or Microsoft) makes the OS, but HTC (or Gigabite) makes the drivers for the hardware. No drivers, no update. Ask some Windows 10 "upgrade" victims about that. (And Arm hardware is even less standardized then PC hardware!)
FYI, you can download and install the latest Android any time. Just be ready to loose some functionality as the hardware has no drivers.
And being more effective as a result.
This one is right here!
But using a well documented default password is different from trying to find hidden paths. Not much, but enough to keep the lawyers in money.
My brother in law took a non-stop ... They did stop ...
Do you see anything wrong here?