Even the free one would require that you be on the Mac App store to get it, which requires you to be tracked by having an Apple ID. Far better to bypass the store entirely and get libre office directly.
Which you have always been able to do on OS X and still are able to do.
What this does is open up LibreOffice to a whole new demographic who wouldn't have done that before.
I'm not seeing a downside here, other than "apple bad, lolz". More exposure for large open source projects is a good thing, surely.
It's a serious hole. The update check mechanism can be fooled. It doesn't require that a genuine update is available, just that something that claims it is the server says there is.
It polls the server, the spoof replies and sends a fake hash and the payload and the phone executes it with elevated privileges.
No, it can happen if there's no keyboard update available.
The system periodically polls the server to check for an update, so it can happen as frequently as that check occurs. They don't say how often that is, but that if the keyboard is installed (i.e., if you have a non-rooted Samsung phone) even if you're using a different keyboard, you're vulnerable on an unsecured network to a MITM attack with arbitrary privileged code execution.
I would say it's a very serious problem, albeit one that can only occur when the phone does a periodic update check. It doesn't require that an actual update be available to work.
When the phone tries to update the keyboard, it fails to encrypt the executable file.
Why would the phone be trying to encrypt the executable (? article also says it's a ZIP file) file?
I think what's trying to be said is that the phone fails to verify the signature on the update file - a ZIP file which may contain an executable - which it then unzips without a care.
No, it verifies the hash on the file, but you can trick it by sending a fake hash too.
im not sure that a 30 second ad every few hours is worth 15 bucks a month. for me its not, for most people i know its not.
are we really that short on attention spans than we cant handle a 30 second ad...if it means saving $$180 a year?
It's $10 per month, so unless there are 18 months in a year where you are, it's not quite $180, but to answer the question - yes, there are a lot of people who will pay to remove the adverts.
There will still be a free tier on Apple music - the radio station thing they have - but the (self directed/semi-curated) streaming service will be paid. They've clearly looked at it and decided that the free streaming market is already well supplied - Pandora and Spotify in the US, for example, and want to go after the customers who are willing to pay to be ad free.
It's not about having a "short attention span", it's about perceived value. It's clearly worth it to many since both Pandora and Spotify have paid tiers, although clearly they have a lot more free users than paid ones.
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The file dialog needs some love, or a setting that says "do not poll all disks" - I have an SSD as the boot drive, but I do have connected external and internal storage on spinning drives that is accessed infrequently.
It's a pain in the ass when you open a file dialog box and the system pauses to wait for all the drives to spin up. I would prefer it to only spin the drive up if I click on a folder or volume that is on that drive.
Intel didn't have any quad CPUs that would fit at the time of the update, so they were all dual core.
Assuming it gets updated again (it's been a while) then the CPU selection will be down to whatever Intel has shipping at that time.
This is the same issue that has affected the 15" MBP refresh - the CPU was not updated since there were no quad broadwell CPUs with a suitable TDP, while the 13" was updated with the dual core broadwell chips that were available earlier this year.
It's not just about facts. It's about spirit and essence. Nobody fucks the customer as hard as Apple. No one. It was Steve Job's vision to create a company that was highly desirable and expensive on the outside, yet overrated and mediocre on the inside, all ruled with an iron fist. After all, this is a company that LOVES creating proprietary connectors and purposely making their devices incomparable with non-Apple products. It's been that way since the first Apple computer.
OK this is admittedly a guess but it seems likely from their track record that this service will only work with Apple devices.
Why in the hell would anyone want a single-vendor music steaming service? Music isn't specific to Apple (or Sony or Google). I can outright BUY unencumbered mp3 files for so dirt cheap that streaming doesn't make any sense. Why stream when I can just buy them and copy them to whatever device I want, whenever I want, and use them long after the streaming service goes bust?
It makes no sense.
Sure you can buy music for dirt cheap - you'll still be able to after this launches.
It's almost as if different people have different needs when it comes to products and services. I'm sure there's some sense in there somewhere. Could it be that people are different from each other? Help me out here. This isn't making sense.
It depends on the country. When Apple Pay inevitably launches in the UK it will be an enormous hit - contactless payment is all the rage here and has seen massive growth in the past 2 years.
It doesn't surprise me that the US is lagging behind. You guys don't even have chip and pin.
Spotify has never really advertised because it's never been profitable.
So you should only advertise when you're profitable? If Doug Morris thinks this is a good thing that means it isn't a good thing for the end users.
The summary is oddly worked but it means that it has not been a net benefit financially to advertise. They would spend more in advertising costs than they would gain in income.
Nothing requires Apple to carry everything in their store. They can deny any app for whatever reason they want.
This is definitely not true, even if you only count the US. When you are in a position of market dominance you have to obey antitrust laws. If US law applies to this case or not is somewhat debatable as Apple has less than half the smartphone market, but I don't think it would be legal in Europe for example.
So what market are they dominant in? The sale of Apple-branded products?
Or are we forgetting that Apple is only a "dominant monopolist" when it suits slashdot, and the "failing has been" when talk abut how Android has so much market share?
This is not going after Pandora users, it's going after people who don't currently have a streaming service.
If it launches in the UK then it also might be for me since we can't get Pandora and while I like Spotify well enough, it didn't seem to work as well as Pandora did when I tried in in the US.
Either way, more competition in the streaming space will be good, surely.
Well, it was no different to the way the hit piece was worded - it considered money that Tesla *customers* could receive as tax breaks for Tesla in order to inflate the numbers and make it sound worse.
Understanding is a three-edged sword: your side, their side and the truth. -Kosh
Targeting OS X is tempting because of 99% of all Mac users *knows* that "Macs can't get infected" (the Apple salespeople told them so), and therefore they don't have any kind of antivirus installed.
At work, I daily deal with Mac-users who gets their mailaccounts hijacked because of infections. It takes roughly 10-20 minutes to convince them to download and run Avast or something like that, but it's worth the "oh....".
Out if interest, what "infections"? Do you have any examples. That's clearly a big issue if you're dealing with it daily. What infections are we talking about here?
Not that I'm doubting your story or anything.
(NECESSARY DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT CLAIMING THAT OS X CANNOT GET INFECTIONS)
don't be dense. You don't need 24/7 access to the internet to job hunt. There are lots of places you can go get access for free.
Right, but it's an awfully lot more convenient if you can check from home - especially if you're poor and have a lot of other time commitments (other job, school run, kids etc).
The money is already there, they just need to amend the wording because it was written in the 80s to say "landline or cable/dsl connection" rather than just "land line" as it does now.
You don't need broadband to call 911, or answer a job call-back, or answer a call from your kid's school.
I'd be interested to see your success in a job hunt if you used only your phone and had no access to email or online forms vs having access to the net.
We'll leave out that a lot of school business is also conducted via email now, but we'll assume that they also send home paper copies of things that never get lost in between the kid's hands and the kitchen table.
Obama has been nowhere near this. The phrase "obamaphone" originated in the right wing media sphere as a way to generate outrage fuel for right wingers to throw on the "we hate obama" fire.
However, don't let facts get in the way of a good, baseless Obama bash. Carry on.
"But they closed all the libraries due to public spending cuts. They said everyone already had smartphones!"
"So use your smartphone!"
"While Fox News said Obama was handing out free iPhones the reality is that it's not actually a smartphone"
Also, if you read the article (I know, I know, who has time for that before coming here to lay out their highly informed and expert opinion), you'd see that the money is not an "increased" expenditure, it's just a provision to allow the already allocated funds to be used for more than simply a landline since the legislation was written during the Reagan era and doesn't explicitly mention broadband for some reason. You think they'd have written it in if they meant for your precious taxes to be used for it, but such as it is. I can't think why they'd need to review the documentation.
They want a standard but good USB connector for the laptop and a proprietary port they control for the phone.
That's why they gave USB-C away for nothing.
It's the same reason they gave away the mini-displayport connector for free too - they want it to be a standard.
The phone port though, they want to control because they want to control the peripheral market for the iPhone and iPad. The peripheral market for computers they don't care about, but they would rather that the connector of choice be a good one.
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Even the free one would require that you be on the Mac App store to get it, which requires you to be tracked by having an Apple ID. Far better to bypass the store entirely and get libre office directly.
Which you have always been able to do on OS X and still are able to do.
What this does is open up LibreOffice to a whole new demographic who wouldn't have done that before.
I'm not seeing a downside here, other than "apple bad, lolz". More exposure for large open source projects is a good thing, surely.
I've never had any problems with "fake" power supplies EVER, or anything attached to them.
On the other hand, I do actively avoid Apple products.
You've been lucky. This isn't even an "apple sucks" thing.
Cheap chargers that connect to mains voltage are a serious issue, and it's not limited to knockoff iDevice power supplies.
Poor PCB design, cheap construction methods and no quality control create a fire and electrocution hazard.
That's exactly what it's doing, according to Ars.
It's a serious hole. The update check mechanism can be fooled. It doesn't require that a genuine update is available, just that something that claims it is the server says there is.
It polls the server, the spoof replies and sends a fake hash and the payload and the phone executes it with elevated privileges.
No, it can happen if there's no keyboard update available.
The system periodically polls the server to check for an update, so it can happen as frequently as that check occurs. They don't say how often that is, but that if the keyboard is installed (i.e., if you have a non-rooted Samsung phone) even if you're using a different keyboard, you're vulnerable on an unsecured network to a MITM attack with arbitrary privileged code execution.
I would say it's a very serious problem, albeit one that can only occur when the phone does a periodic update check. It doesn't require that an actual update be available to work.
When the phone tries to update the keyboard, it fails to encrypt the executable file.
Why would the phone be trying to encrypt the executable (? article also says it's a ZIP file) file?
I think what's trying to be said is that the phone fails to verify the signature on the update file - a ZIP file which may contain an executable - which it then unzips without a care.
No, it verifies the hash on the file, but you can trick it by sending a fake hash too.
im not sure that a 30 second ad every few hours is worth 15 bucks a month. for me its not, for most people i know its not.
are we really that short on attention spans than we cant handle a 30 second ad...if it means saving $$180 a year?
It's $10 per month, so unless there are 18 months in a year where you are, it's not quite $180, but to answer the question - yes, there are a lot of people who will pay to remove the adverts.
There will still be a free tier on Apple music - the radio station thing they have - but the (self directed/semi-curated) streaming service will be paid. They've clearly looked at it and decided that the free streaming market is already well supplied - Pandora and Spotify in the US, for example, and want to go after the customers who are willing to pay to be ad free.
It's not about having a "short attention span", it's about perceived value. It's clearly worth it to many since both Pandora and Spotify have paid tiers, although clearly they have a lot more free users than paid ones.
The file dialog needs some love, or a setting that says "do not poll all disks" - I have an SSD as the boot drive, but I do have connected external and internal storage on spinning drives that is accessed infrequently.
It's a pain in the ass when you open a file dialog box and the system pauses to wait for all the drives to spin up. I would prefer it to only spin the drive up if I click on a folder or volume that is on that drive.
Where are the free legal equivalents that don't have adverts?
I know -- from Quad Core down to Dual Core. :-(
Guess the profit margins are just high enough ...
Intel didn't have any quad CPUs that would fit at the time of the update, so they were all dual core.
Assuming it gets updated again (it's been a while) then the CPU selection will be down to whatever Intel has shipping at that time.
This is the same issue that has affected the 15" MBP refresh - the CPU was not updated since there were no quad broadwell CPUs with a suitable TDP, while the 13" was updated with the dual core broadwell chips that were available earlier this year.
Dear Tim,
the last Mac mini update was incredibly lame. Seriously, what was that?
Dear AC.
Ask Intel.
Regards,
Tim
Perhaps, it is odd though, I don't stream or even go looking for streaming yet I hear and read about Spotifiy constantly.
That's the point.
It's like Pizza Express, whose first advert was "word of mouth since 1936" or something.
Spotify haven't used traditional advertising because it's expensive and they are already getting a lot of exposure as it is.
It's not just about facts. It's about spirit and essence. Nobody fucks the customer as hard as Apple. No one. It was Steve Job's vision to create a company that was highly desirable and expensive on the outside, yet overrated and mediocre on the inside, all ruled with an iron fist. After all, this is a company that LOVES creating proprietary connectors and purposely making their devices incomparable with non-Apple products. It's been that way since the first Apple computer.
Cool story bro.
OK this is admittedly a guess but it seems likely from their track record that this service will only work with Apple devices.
Why in the hell would anyone want a single-vendor music steaming service? Music isn't specific to Apple (or Sony or Google). I can outright BUY unencumbered mp3 files for so dirt cheap that streaming doesn't make any sense. Why stream when I can just buy them and copy them to whatever device I want, whenever I want, and use them long after the streaming service goes bust?
It makes no sense.
Sure you can buy music for dirt cheap - you'll still be able to after this launches.
It's almost as if different people have different needs when it comes to products and services. I'm sure there's some sense in there somewhere. Could it be that people are different from each other? Help me out here. This isn't making sense.
So, seeing as they are becoming competitors, when will Spotify disappear from the Apple App Store?
Has Apple ever removed a major competitor's app from the store? After it was approved?
No, but facts are a very pesky issue for Apple bashing so they're frequently ignored in favour of baseless speculation and fabrication.
It depends on the country. When Apple Pay inevitably launches in the UK it will be an enormous hit - contactless payment is all the rage here and has seen massive growth in the past 2 years.
It doesn't surprise me that the US is lagging behind. You guys don't even have chip and pin.
Spotify has never really advertised because it's never been profitable.
So you should only advertise when you're profitable?
If Doug Morris thinks this is a good thing that means it isn't a good thing for the end users.
The summary is oddly worked but it means that it has not been a net benefit financially to advertise. They would spend more in advertising costs than they would gain in income.
Nothing requires Apple to carry everything in their store. They can deny any app for whatever reason they want.
This is definitely not true, even if you only count the US. When you are in a position of market dominance you have to obey antitrust laws. If US law applies to this case or not is somewhat debatable as Apple has less than half the smartphone market, but I don't think it would be legal in Europe for example.
So what market are they dominant in? The sale of Apple-branded products?
Or are we forgetting that Apple is only a "dominant monopolist" when it suits slashdot, and the "failing has been" when talk abut how Android has so much market share?
It can't be both.
This is not going after Pandora users, it's going after people who don't currently have a streaming service.
If it launches in the UK then it also might be for me since we can't get Pandora and while I like Spotify well enough, it didn't seem to work as well as Pandora did when I tried in in the US.
Either way, more competition in the streaming space will be good, surely.
Well, it was no different to the way the hit piece was worded - it considered money that Tesla *customers* could receive as tax breaks for Tesla in order to inflate the numbers and make it sound worse.
Understanding is a three-edged sword: your side, their side and the truth. -Kosh
Targeting OS X is tempting because of 99% of all Mac users *knows* that "Macs can't get infected" (the Apple salespeople told them so), and therefore they don't have any kind of antivirus installed.
At work, I daily deal with Mac-users who gets their mailaccounts hijacked because of infections. It takes roughly 10-20 minutes to convince them to download and run Avast or something like that, but it's worth the "oh....".
Out if interest, what "infections"? Do you have any examples. That's clearly a big issue if you're dealing with it daily. What infections are we talking about here?
Not that I'm doubting your story or anything.
(NECESSARY DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT CLAIMING THAT OS X CANNOT GET INFECTIONS)
don't be dense. You don't need 24/7 access to the internet to job hunt. There are lots of places you can go get access for free.
Right, but it's an awfully lot more convenient if you can check from home - especially if you're poor and have a lot of other time commitments (other job, school run, kids etc).
The money is already there, they just need to amend the wording because it was written in the 80s to say "landline or cable/dsl connection" rather than just "land line" as it does now.
You don't need broadband to call 911, or answer a job call-back, or answer a call from your kid's school.
I'd be interested to see your success in a job hunt if you used only your phone and had no access to email or online forms vs having access to the net.
We'll leave out that a lot of school business is also conducted via email now, but we'll assume that they also send home paper copies of things that never get lost in between the kid's hands and the kitchen table.
Ahaha. Good one.
Obama has been nowhere near this. The phrase "obamaphone" originated in the right wing media sphere as a way to generate outrage fuel for right wingers to throw on the "we hate obama" fire.
However, don't let facts get in the way of a good, baseless Obama bash. Carry on.
"Use a library!"
"But they closed all the libraries due to public spending cuts. They said everyone already had smartphones!"
"So use your smartphone!"
"While Fox News said Obama was handing out free iPhones the reality is that it's not actually a smartphone"
Also, if you read the article (I know, I know, who has time for that before coming here to lay out their highly informed and expert opinion), you'd see that the money is not an "increased" expenditure, it's just a provision to allow the already allocated funds to be used for more than simply a landline since the legislation was written during the Reagan era and doesn't explicitly mention broadband for some reason. You think they'd have written it in if they meant for your precious taxes to be used for it, but such as it is. I can't think why they'd need to review the documentation.
They want a standard but good USB connector for the laptop and a proprietary port they control for the phone.
That's why they gave USB-C away for nothing.
It's the same reason they gave away the mini-displayport connector for free too - they want it to be a standard.
The phone port though, they want to control because they want to control the peripheral market for the iPhone and iPad. The peripheral market for computers they don't care about, but they would rather that the connector of choice be a good one.