The PATCO people deserved to be fired. Reagan was right. They thought they could paralyze the country's air transport and dictate contract terms. Guess they were wrong, huh? For 48 hours they stayed on strike, after being told their jobs were forfeit if they continued on.
Assert your rights, but don't be an idiot. That's the lesson here. No nation is going to bow down to 13,000 people.
Agreed, the proxy warfare happened there under lesser and greater levels of subterfuge. To the objective (and cynical) observer it was obvious who backed whom in those countries.
I was thinking more of the major combat forces on the North German Plain, which was expected to be the focus of any theoretical Third World War.
The French were doing lots of illegal and immoral things in Iraq pre-2003. Our troops were getting shot at with a fair amount of French hardware dating from 2001.
True friends don't supply armaments to people that were shooting at US and British warplanes daily years before ground hostilities commenced. France is not the US's friend.
WWI - the Belgian mistreatment was deplorable, but what drove the US into this war was the unrestricted submarine warfare and such stupidity as the Zimmermann note. There were no mutual interests really - Wilson tried to be almost quaintly fair in his peace terms which were summarily rejected by the rest of the Allies with their millions of corpses. Wilson came back, had his stroke, and that was it for internationalism in the US. Back to sleep...
WWII - We stayed out of the war for three years. I'm not going to say there was no sympathy for Britain, but there was no desire to get embroiled in a war anywhere. Even the sinking of US ships in the North Atlantic was insufficient: it required the attack at Pearl Harbor to drive us to war. Even then, there was no real solidarity with Europe. There was a job to be done, an danger to be eradicated. We did this, and formed the UN in an attempt to deter future war. Based upon formulae agreed upon at Yalta and elsewhere, we occupied the former Axis and maintained some troop strength there, which would not previously have been a normal American thing to do.
Cold War - The Cold War was once again fed by fear of Soviet aggression rather than any kind of solidarity with Europe. We assumed that fighting the Communists would be better done in Europe than on our own shores.
Now, please note that these events were similarly perceived elsewhere -i'm sure no British patriot thinks that us taking a pass on WWII for 3 years while they got pounded was a good idea, for instance.
My point simply is that US interests are not congruent with those of Europe and very likely never will be. Immediacy of threats has masked this for a long time , but it should not be mistaken. There never has been any kumbaya singing going on at either side of the Atlantic.
Then the government is either going to have to lay the lines itself, or pay someone to do them. No one will do it on their own if they aren't going to own them.
Sitting here in 2004 with tons of unused fiber laid cross-country already, you may find it easy to say that, but when I was sitting there in 1994 wanting to get connectivity for 160 offices across the US, I was damn glad that wasn't the case.
Companies like the original WilTel (who were originally natural gas and oil providers who laid the fiber in the right-of-way of existing pipelines (SPRINT did the same thing with railroad right-of-ways) made it possible to have high speed digital connectivity at a time when the government regulated monopoly of RBOCs and their artifically drawn LATA boundaries made supposed 'public' lines completely unavailable. Yes, this all happened because of the AT&T breakup. Still, we'd be glad to have an ISDN connection right now if private industry hadn't filled the need.
Then again, you might be talking about the last mile, as the article was. Once again - why lay the infrastructure if you aren't going to own it? No one will. If you are going to wait for the government to do it, you are going to be waiting a long, long time.
The fundamental problem is that the existing copper local loop is 'good enough' to provide some access. Therefore, there is no drive for the government granted monopoly of local telephone providers - technically the owners of the local loop - to improve it. In this case, the granting of monopoly powers works against us - but it is still necessary to provide service on the local loop and at the CO.
There is no real solution to the problem that doesn't involve losing something. Pick 2 out of 3 - service, speed, low price. Most people aren't willing to compromise on #3 or #1, that's why you have shitty lines.
Dude, my geek sport is getting drunk. I tie one on, and then screw chicks that I wouldn't pay attention to when sober - through disinterest in their nattering or just not very good looks.
Doing this periodically is the best stress relief imaginable. I recommend straight tequila. You can choose your own poison, however.
Utilize the social benefits of alcohol techonology - don't be a luddite.
Your OTH launch platform was just shot down by a Block III SM-2 MR, since it needed to get within 65 km - meanwhile the SM-2 MR shot it down while it was still 100km out.
Start talking about AS-6 and you might be closer to the mark, though the SM-2 MR will shoot down that missile as easily as it toasted your launch platform just now.
You need to conduct a massive attack on an AEGIS platform if you expect to take it out.
You're ignoring the alternative - you're so far to the left Lenin thinks you're radical. I think he rolled over in his glass box - to the right - to make room for you someday.:-)
I see room for a new HID - a joystick shaped like a rifle stock with a trigger to activate the left mouse button. The right button could be keyed to a breech mechanism.
"Hey kids, when you have the choice between doing what's right and making a dollar, remember only the poor can afford a conscience! Pat Tillman chose to follow his principles, and look where he is now!"
It's very unlikely indeed. People who worry about this don't understand IBM very well. IBM makes money - they will continue to make money for time immemorial because their method of doing business is a time-tested and good one. They have little to no interest in Linux software as a product. They are interested in support and ancillary services for large corporate clients. They aren't going to change their focus because they know where the money is.
To them, OSS isn't a stick to beat Microsoft with. It's a means of ensuring their dominance in the delivery of computing power and corporate support. If everyone runs a generic OS, that benefits IBM, as long as that OS isn't proprietary.
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The PATCO people deserved to be fired. Reagan was right. They thought they could paralyze the country's air transport and dictate contract terms. Guess they were wrong, huh? For 48 hours they stayed on strike, after being told their jobs were forfeit if they continued on.
Assert your rights, but don't be an idiot. That's the lesson here. No nation is going to bow down to 13,000 people.
You can hide it with your mod points but it's a well known fact.
Got a lot of press play in Summer 03 and won't be forgotten in the very near future.
So much for French altruism.
Perhaps we should have supplied weapons to the Algerian rebels in the 50's and 60's, or maybe to the Vietminh in the 1940s and 50s.
That would have been a little more comparable in terms of a backstab.
Agreed, the proxy warfare happened there under lesser and greater levels of subterfuge. To the objective (and cynical) observer it was obvious who backed whom in those countries.
I was thinking more of the major combat forces on the North German Plain, which was expected to be the focus of any theoretical Third World War.
The French were doing lots of illegal and immoral things in Iraq pre-2003. Our troops were getting shot at with a fair amount of French hardware dating from 2001 .
True friends don't supply armaments to people that were shooting at US and British warplanes daily years before ground hostilities commenced. France is not the US's friend.
In regards the US experience:
WWI - the Belgian mistreatment was deplorable, but what drove the US into this war was the unrestricted submarine warfare and such stupidity as the Zimmermann note. There were no mutual interests really - Wilson tried to be almost quaintly fair in his peace terms which were summarily rejected by the rest of the Allies with their millions of corpses. Wilson came back, had his stroke, and that was it for internationalism in the US. Back to sleep...
WWII - We stayed out of the war for three years. I'm not going to say there was no sympathy for Britain, but there was no desire to get embroiled in a war anywhere. Even the sinking of US ships in the North Atlantic was insufficient: it required the attack at Pearl Harbor to drive us to war. Even then, there was no real solidarity with Europe. There was a job to be done, an danger to be eradicated. We did this, and formed the UN in an attempt to deter future war. Based upon formulae agreed upon at Yalta and elsewhere, we occupied the former Axis and maintained some troop strength there, which would not previously have been a normal American thing to do.
Cold War - The Cold War was once again fed by fear of Soviet aggression rather than any kind of solidarity with Europe. We assumed that fighting the Communists would be better done in Europe than on our own shores.
Now, please note that these events were similarly perceived elsewhere -i'm sure no British patriot thinks that us taking a pass on WWII for 3 years while they got pounded was a good idea, for instance.
My point simply is that US interests are not congruent with those of Europe and very likely never will be. Immediacy of threats has masked this for a long time , but it should not be mistaken. There never has been any kumbaya singing going on at either side of the Atlantic.
Homeless Erectus makes me think of waking up on a sewer grate with a boner.
I'm sorry the mods have abandoned this thread because you deserve some points for that.
Succinctly put.
This depends if you count in the flatulence of the rider or not, and the methane release's greenhouse effect.
Pedaling a bike seems to do much for releasing same.
Then the government is either going to have to lay the lines itself, or pay someone to do them. No one will do it on their own if they aren't going to own them.
Sitting here in 2004 with tons of unused fiber laid cross-country already, you may find it easy to say that, but when I was sitting there in 1994 wanting to get connectivity for 160 offices across the US, I was damn glad that wasn't the case.
Companies like the original WilTel (who were originally natural gas and oil providers who laid the fiber in the right-of-way of existing pipelines (SPRINT did the same thing with railroad right-of-ways) made it possible to have high speed digital connectivity at a time when the government regulated monopoly of RBOCs and their artifically drawn LATA boundaries made supposed 'public' lines completely unavailable. Yes, this all happened because of the AT&T breakup. Still, we'd be glad to have an ISDN connection right now if private industry hadn't filled the need.
Then again, you might be talking about the last mile, as the article was. Once again - why lay the infrastructure if you aren't going to own it? No one will. If you are going to wait for the government to do it, you are going to be waiting a long, long time.
The fundamental problem is that the existing copper local loop is 'good enough' to provide some access. Therefore, there is no drive for the government granted monopoly of local telephone providers - technically the owners of the local loop - to improve it. In this case, the granting of monopoly powers works against us - but it is still necessary to provide service on the local loop and at the CO.
There is no real solution to the problem that doesn't involve losing something. Pick 2 out of 3 - service, speed, low price. Most people aren't willing to compromise on #3 or #1, that's why you have shitty lines.
I clicked on it and I was pretty sure it was a candid shot of the NASA accounting department.
NASA's whole budget request for 2004 was 15.5 billion.
At that rate, it'd take them oh, say 40 years to save up 500+ billion.
Something does not compute.
Check it here.
I was going to say something about the editing, but what's the point? Like it's going to change at this late date.
Welcome to being persecuted for _what_ you believe rather than the relative merit thereof. The irony would be delicious if it weren't so sad.
You actually had a point but it doesn't matter with this crowd. Groupthink.
Dude, my geek sport is getting drunk. I tie one on, and then screw chicks that I wouldn't pay attention to when sober - through disinterest in their nattering or just not very good looks.
Doing this periodically is the best stress relief imaginable. I recommend straight tequila. You can choose your own poison, however.
Utilize the social benefits of alcohol techonology - don't be a luddite.
One word: SM-2 MR.
Your OTH launch platform was just shot down by a Block III SM-2 MR, since it needed to get within 65 km - meanwhile the SM-2 MR shot it down while it was still 100km out.
Start talking about AS-6 and you might be closer to the mark, though the SM-2 MR will shoot down that missile as easily as it toasted your launch platform just now.
You need to conduct a massive attack on an AEGIS platform if you expect to take it out.
Umm, this assumes you are talking about huge standoff missiles, the kind the old Backfire and Badger bombers carried for the Soviet Naval Aviation.
Otherwise, if you are within 50nm of the cruiser you are easily within it's envelope.
Your theory fails to take into account surface to air missiles.
I'd like to see your airplanes vs. an AEGIS cruiser.
(splash)
You're ignoring the alternative - you're so far to the left Lenin thinks you're radical. I think he rolled over in his glass box - to the right - to make room for you someday. :-)
Ciao yourself!
I see room for a new HID - a joystick shaped like a rifle stock with a trigger to activate the left mouse button. The right button could be keyed to a breech mechanism.
Microsoft will jump right on this, i'm sure.
Nice to know the cocksucking sack of shit immature mods are on the job yet again.
Try to do the world a favor and get your balls injured in an industrial accident before you reproduce, willya?
Thanks!
Just about every site listed had a tilt to the left.
It's about as egalitarian as Pravda in the old days.
Nice to know that some things never really change.
Petreley is an asshole, just put him on perma-ignore and you're fine.
He's never written anything really worth reading and probably never will.
I've purposely avoided his articles since his OS/2 flaming zealot days back in the mid-90s.
What a proud example you are for your children.
"Hey kids, when you have the choice between doing what's right and making a dollar, remember only the poor can afford a conscience! Pat Tillman chose to follow his principles, and look where he is now!"
Great example i'll make in jail.
You sir, are an asshole.
The US business model sucks.
Patenting a security feature in TCP? Cisco sucks. I won't use another one of their products again if I can possibly help it.
Unfortunately that's probably not going to happen. In fact, I have this CSS 11150 box that i'm going to have to configure. sigh.
When the choice is principles and employment, employment wins. I have child support to pay.
It's very unlikely indeed. People who worry about this don't understand IBM very well. IBM makes money - they will continue to make money for time immemorial because their method of doing business is a time-tested and good one. They have little to no interest in Linux software as a product. They are interested in support and ancillary services for large corporate clients. They aren't going to change their focus because they know where the money is.
To them, OSS isn't a stick to beat Microsoft with. It's a means of ensuring their dominance in the delivery of computing power and corporate support. If everyone runs a generic OS, that benefits IBM, as long as that OS isn't proprietary.