There are two problems with this. (1) Space is pretty big and something big enough to hurt us is relatively small. We're unlikely to spot it until it's too late to do anything but rape the nearest moderately attractive person. (2) What are you going to do about it anyway? We have exactly zero realistic options for dealing with something like this other than raping the nearest moderately attractive person.
To be fair, there is a pretty strong history in Scottish politics that leads to replies like that. The Conservatives literally destroyed themselves in Scotland for life during the 1980s; it is unlikely they wil return in any numbers until my kids are of voting age. And do bear in mind that voters who stop and give a considered rationale for their voting decisions are unlikely to be good fodder for a sound-bite.
This has more to do with the structure of the media than it's ability to provide useful information. Rolling 24-hour news has an insatiable demand for new content in order to be the network that's first with the next big thing. Back when Clinton was first elected and I was eleven, the papers had pages and pages discussing the published policy positions of candidates, not replay after replay of off-the-cuff soundbites ("spread the wealth", anyone?).
Oh dear. Take a course in Newtonian mechanics, will you, before you post any more of this stuff? Things orbiting the earth are falling. Chucking something off the ISS in the opposite direction to your direction of travel will just change its orbital height very slightly. Try throwing something up in the air. Does it hit you on the head a few seconds later? It's just the same in space, it's just that you also happen to be moving sideways very quickly.
During the Poll Tax palaver in the UK in the late eighties, people delighted in finding more and more ridiculous things to write checks on. IIRC, the government was presented with cheques painted on scrap vans, carved into gravestones, engraved onto a tombstone, and on one occasion written on the side of a cow. HMRC being humourous types, they cashed them all.
I just did a little bit of Googling; it's so easy it's embarrassing. The printers are in the hundreds of pounds range, the holograms can be run off for pennies in a large run, the embossing can be done with easily purchased tools. Magstripe readers and writers are a couple of hundred quid.
Heh. I think OP was just venting. I know how he feels. An 8.04 update a month ago broke noapic on my install. If I try to boot noapic, kernel panic. If I boot without it, my mouse doesn't work and my wireless is dead. Despite lots of help from the forums and IRC, nobody has gotten to the bottom of it, and after a month I am feeling OP's pain.
True. In general, you don't need to be really secure, you just need to be more secure than your next door neighbour. Generally, planting a rose bush under your window and leaving some lights on accomplishes that.
Someone who knows what they are doing is a bit more difficult - I speak from experience. I grew up in riding schools, which generally have a lot of very expensive tack sitting in very insecure tackrooms, which often contain a dog. More than once I've seen or heard of an empty tackroom with a dead dog lying on the floor with a stoved-in skull.
By definition, a non-musician doesn't have a clue what it means to play one. If you ever do manage to climb out of your cultural hole, I can assure you that at the top of the hill lies an experience better than sex or drugs. It's worth the climb.
I won't even mention what someone might find worthwhile in someone who has dedication and inter-personal skills.
There was a time on/. (before tabbed browsing) when the entire contents of TFA would show up in the first few comments, obviating the tedious necessity of clicking a link. I miss those days.
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Metal parts can potentially crack, any components with liquids in them (batteries, capacitors, etc) can freeze and split. Certainly they will be keeping their fingers crossed that it might come back to life next year, but the odds are low.
Usually in these cases there isn't any doubt about what's involved. Most people who have a collection of maybe-underage girls also have plenty of definitely underage.
Erm, because any law enforcement organisation with an ounce of clue has very strict procedures on evidence handling and chain of custody so that this approach doesn't work. It's been tried, and succeeded on several occasions, until the cops learnt their lesson.
You mean Britain. Our public transport system was dreamt up by the Monty Python team after being mistaken for sensible people. Oh no, it only seems like that.
As an enforced IE6 (aaargh) user at work, I can confirm that whatever the hell they are coding the front page for, it sure ain't IE. It seems ok in FF3 for me, though. I would still like the option for it to look like it did back in 2001; keep it the same long enough, and it will become a classic.
On the face of it, it looks pretty good, and perhaps for certain types of application it might make sense. However, sit and work out what you're getting for your money - it is pretty expensive compared to a dedicated server.
My understanding was the original theory was to provide virtualisation in such a way that you could easily add or subtract the services you required, with an API to control them, etc, meaning you could reduce your fixed costs but have the capacity to handle major load events (so, say, CNN.com doesn't fall over on the next 9/11, etc). Then the marketers got hold of it and reduced it's usefulness to the point where it basically means "the internet".
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There are two problems with this. (1) Space is pretty big and something big enough to hurt us is relatively small. We're unlikely to spot it until it's too late to do anything but rape the nearest moderately attractive person. (2) What are you going to do about it anyway? We have exactly zero realistic options for dealing with something like this other than raping the nearest moderately attractive person.
Do you know, I really can't tell if this is funny, spam, or clever.
To be fair, there is a pretty strong history in Scottish politics that leads to replies like that. The Conservatives literally destroyed themselves in Scotland for life during the 1980s; it is unlikely they wil return in any numbers until my kids are of voting age. And do bear in mind that voters who stop and give a considered rationale for their voting decisions are unlikely to be good fodder for a sound-bite.
I use WEP!
This has more to do with the structure of the media than it's ability to provide useful information. Rolling 24-hour news has an insatiable demand for new content in order to be the network that's first with the next big thing. Back when Clinton was first elected and I was eleven, the papers had pages and pages discussing the published policy positions of candidates, not replay after replay of off-the-cuff soundbites ("spread the wealth", anyone?).
What will be over? Have people been making a fuss about this election thing?
Oh dear. Take a course in Newtonian mechanics, will you, before you post any more of this stuff? Things orbiting the earth are falling. Chucking something off the ISS in the opposite direction to your direction of travel will just change its orbital height very slightly. Try throwing something up in the air. Does it hit you on the head a few seconds later? It's just the same in space, it's just that you also happen to be moving sideways very quickly.
During the Poll Tax palaver in the UK in the late eighties, people delighted in finding more and more ridiculous things to write checks on. IIRC, the government was presented with cheques painted on scrap vans, carved into gravestones, engraved onto a tombstone, and on one occasion written on the side of a cow. HMRC being humourous types, they cashed them all.
I just did a little bit of Googling; it's so easy it's embarrassing. The printers are in the hundreds of pounds range, the holograms can be run off for pennies in a large run, the embossing can be done with easily purchased tools. Magstripe readers and writers are a couple of hundred quid.
Heh. I think OP was just venting. I know how he feels. An 8.04 update a month ago broke noapic on my install. If I try to boot noapic, kernel panic. If I boot without it, my mouse doesn't work and my wireless is dead. Despite lots of help from the forums and IRC, nobody has gotten to the bottom of it, and after a month I am feeling OP's pain.
Someone who knows what they are doing is a bit more difficult - I speak from experience. I grew up in riding schools, which generally have a lot of very expensive tack sitting in very insecure tackrooms, which often contain a dog. More than once I've seen or heard of an empty tackroom with a dead dog lying on the floor with a stoved-in skull.
Does your pitbull like playing with a well swung crowbar? Dogs are not a panacea, especially against someone who knows what he's doing.
I won't even mention what someone might find worthwhile in someone who has dedication and inter-personal skills.
There was a time on /. (before tabbed browsing) when the entire contents of TFA would show up in the first few comments, obviating the tedious necessity of clicking a link. I miss those days.
Sorry, last post ate the nicks. Try again:
.nl :) :) ;) :) :)
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19:45 < EugenMayer> Hello
19:46 < EugenMayer> CDot1: are you arround?
19:48 < OliverKrueger> What time is it in London?
19:49 < gmc> 19:42 i guess
19:49 < gmc> its 20:42 in
19:49 < OliverKrueger> so it starts in 10min?
19:49 < gmc> think so yes.. but we just had wintertime.. so it might all be a mess.. lets check the world clock
19:49 < gmc> i believe cdot is having dinner atm btw
19:50 < OliverKrueger> daylight saving just changed here, too. Thats why Im asking.
19:51 < gmc> ah.. ntpd was not running.. it's 8:51 here
19:52 < OliverKrueger> 7 mins,... gone forever...
19:52 < gmc> 19:51 in london indeed, according to the/a world clock
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19:54 < EugenMayer> Hi Tom
19:55 < EugenMayer> Hi Marcus
19:55 < OliverKrueger> Hi Tom.
19:55 < TomBarton> Hello
19:57 < EugenMayer> So the meating starts in some minutes or am i wrong?
19:58 < gmc> you're not wrong, unless i am too
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19:58 < EugenMayer> i used the "meating" word again
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19:59 < gmc>
19:59 < PeterThoeny_> hi andre, crawford, eugen, koen, kenneth, oliver, sopan, sven, tom, markus
19:59 < EugenMayer> i mean, whats wrong? it sounds the same
19:59 < EugenMayer> Hi Peter
19:59 < OliverKrueger> Hi Peter.
19:59 < PeterThoeny_> who is actually at the keyboard?
19:59 < Lavr_> Kenneth is
19:59 * gmc <==
19:59 < OliverKrueger> Markus is set to "away".
20:00 < OliverKrueger> so as CDot
20:00 < gmc> i'll be mostly in lurking mode though, i've caught a bug again
20:01 < OliverKrueger> Im busy with some kinosearch issues, too. Please shout, if you want me to comment on something.
20:01 -!- will_t1 [n=wii_t1@63.146.69.17] has joined #twiki_release
20:01 < PeterThoeny_> hi will
20:02 < PeterThoeny_> who will be facilitating? who will be taking notes?
20:03 < PeterThoeny_> proposed agenda items are posted at http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/GeorgetownReleaseMeeting2008x10x27
20:03 < PeterThoeny_> # 1. Review Urgent Bugs - for TWiki 4.2.4
20:03 < PeterThoeny_> # 2. Feature requests for Georgetown Release
20:03 < PeterThoeny_> i would like to start with a new agenda item
20:03 < PeterThoeny_> ---++ Relaunch TWiki.org Project
20:04 < PeterThoeny_> http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/RelaunchTWikiOrgProject
20:04 < PeterThoeny_> please review, i also sent this content to twiki-dev and twiki-announce
20:05 < OliverKrueger> Did you change the default skin?
20:05 < PeterThoeny_> yes
20:05 < PeterThoeny_> that is one of the changes
20:05 < EugenMayer> looks a lot better. Not perfect, but years be
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19:45 Hello
19:46 CDot1: are you arround?
19:48 What time is it in London?
19:49 19:42 i guess
19:49 its 20:42 in
19:49 so it starts in 10min?
19:49 think so yes.. but we just had wintertime.. so it might all be a mess.. lets check the world clock
19:49 i believe cdot is having dinner atm btw
19:50 daylight saving just changed here, too. Thats why Im asking.
19:51 ah.. ntpd was not running.. it's 8:51 here
19:52 7 mins,... gone forever...
19:52 19:51 in london indeed, according to the/a world clock
19:52 -!- TomBarton [n=TomBarto@63.146.69.17] has joined #twiki_release
19:54 Hi Tom
19:55 Hi Marcus
19:55 Hi Tom.
19:55 Hello
19:57 So the meating starts in some minutes or am i wrong?
19:58 you're not wrong, unless i am too
19:58 -!- Lavr_ [n=donotlik@cpe.atm2-0-103309.0x3ef3d076.albnxx13.customer.tele.dk] has joined #twiki_release
19:58 i used the "meating" word again
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19:59
19:59 hi andre, crawford, eugen, koen, kenneth, oliver, sopan, sven, tom, markus
19:59 i mean, whats wrong? it sounds the same
19:59 Hi Peter
19:59 Hi Peter.
19:59 who is actually at the keyboard?
19:59 Kenneth is
19:59 * gmc Markus is set to "away".
20:00 so as CDot
20:00 i'll be mostly in lurking mode though, i've caught a bug again
20:01 Im busy with some kinosearch issues, too. Please shout, if you want me to comment on something.
20:01 -!- will_t1 [n=wii_t1@63.146.69.17] has joined #twiki_release
20:01 hi will
20:02 who will be facilitating? who will be taking notes?
20:03 proposed agenda items are posted at http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/GeorgetownReleaseMeeting2008x10x27
20:03 # 1. Review Urgent Bugs - for TWiki 4.2.4
20:03 # 2. Feature requests for Georgetown Release
20:03 i would like to start with a new agenda item
20:03 ---++ Relaunch TWiki.org Project
20:04 http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/RelaunchTWikiOrgProject
20:04 please review, i also sent this content to twiki-dev and twiki-announce
20:05 Did you change the default skin?
20:05 yes
20:05 that is one of the changes
20:05 looks a lot better. Not perfect, but years better.
20:06 once arthur's twiki.org specific skin is ready we can change it to his
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20:07 PeterThoeny_: just to get one point, t.n. is not heading to follow the debian licence model for projects, because there are believes, the trademark can then not be protected by t.n?
20:08 just one question peter, this is it now? either go with t.n or not?
20:08 Are there any news related to the "negotiations" between t.n. and "us"?
20:08 here now; was eating supper, sorry
20:08 Hi CDot.
20:09 hi crawfo
Metal parts can potentially crack, any components with liquids in them (batteries, capacitors, etc) can freeze and split. Certainly they will be keeping their fingers crossed that it might come back to life next year, but the odds are low.
And that's Godwin in four posts! Fair play to you, sir, a swifter effort I have not seen for many a day.
Usually in these cases there isn't any doubt about what's involved. Most people who have a collection of maybe-underage girls also have plenty of definitely underage.
Erm, because any law enforcement organisation with an ounce of clue has very strict procedures on evidence handling and chain of custody so that this approach doesn't work. It's been tried, and succeeded on several occasions, until the cops learnt their lesson.
You mean Britain. Our public transport system was dreamt up by the Monty Python team after being mistaken for sensible people. Oh no, it only seems like that.
Eh? My Canon printer has offered me the ability to purchase new inks from the printer driver since forever.
As an enforced IE6 (aaargh) user at work, I can confirm that whatever the hell they are coding the front page for, it sure ain't IE. It seems ok in FF3 for me, though. I would still like the option for it to look like it did back in 2001; keep it the same long enough, and it will become a classic.
On the face of it, it looks pretty good, and perhaps for certain types of application it might make sense. However, sit and work out what you're getting for your money - it is pretty expensive compared to a dedicated server.
My understanding was the original theory was to provide virtualisation in such a way that you could easily add or subtract the services you required, with an API to control them, etc, meaning you could reduce your fixed costs but have the capacity to handle major load events (so, say, CNN.com doesn't fall over on the next 9/11, etc). Then the marketers got hold of it and reduced it's usefulness to the point where it basically means "the internet".