Look up the taxi cartels in any major city for a great example that's easy to understand. If you want to get more specific, look at Nashville TN and the recently passed law setting rate limits on sedan and limo services. Not only are they blocking entry to the market, they're actively trying to destroy a particular business that I have used in the past.
Ok, so you might have found an example of a good regulation to cut. Of course, you're going to have to fight against the corporations who want the regulations to begin with, so good luck with that. Making government smaller probably wouldn't help, since the cartel would probably just use other means to enforce its power.
That last statement was where you tried to move the goalposts. FYI.
Actually, I do understand the fallacy. But its application is limited severely by the fact that a "Scotsman" is easily defined by a birth certificate.
The double fallacy comes in to play when someone tries to apply it in a case where the definition isn't as cut and dry. Almost invariably the person pushing the NTS angle has some gripe with whatever group they're trying to paint as "evil" or whatever, and they're pushing their agenda by relating a fringe element of said group with the group itself. If you try to point out that the fringe element has nothing to do with "the group" and is in fact opposed to the general beliefs of "the group", they pull out the NTS. I've seen this *many* times. That's the NTSFF.
As I said, if Joseph Hazelwood comes out as an environmentalist, that doesn't mean that we suddenly all like to do things like him. It would mean that *he* was wrong.
Such as? Let's go at this another way, name a company that has been shut down or kept out of a market because of regulations?
Look up the taxi cartels in any major city for a great example that's easy to understand. If you want to get more specific, look at Nashville TN and the recently passed law setting rate limits on sedan and limo services. Not only are they blocking entry to the market, they're actively trying to destroy a particular business that I have used in the past.
I can come up with other examples in other industries if you'd like, but I'm guessing that you'll attempt to move the goalposts and claim you still got a touchdown....
Is it a NTS though if the alleged fallacy-rebuttal is in fact part of the definition of something? If by definition fear of change truly is contrary to the genuine nature of capitalism then it is not a fallacy to genuinely assault the legitimacy of claiming the title "capitalist" applies.
That's what I call the "No True Scotsman Fallacy Fallacy". The fact is that a Scotsman is one by birth, and so there's an easily described definition of a Scotsman. You are or you aren't, and a simple birth certificate check will ell.
"Capitalist" also has a definition, but it's not as cut and dry as "Scotsman". Still, it's pretty obvious that while anyone can claim to be a capitalist, some people are so far outside the definition that they clearly aren't. That's not a fallacy.
Here's how I usually handle it. It seems that most people who use the NTSFF are lefties. Fine. If Joseph Hazelwood claims to be an environmentalist that means that some environmentalists like to get drunk and trash wildlife refuges by spilling millions of gallons of oil in them, right? No, it would mean that he's a crackpot.
Oddly, Nobody pulls out the NTSFF when you put it in those terms.
While it's nice that Comcast is standing up to them, if you read through you'll find that it's four porn companies. In other words, they're not standing up (in this case, at least) to any of the MAFIAA members.
The biggest single group of victims of Islamic terrorism and militantism is, by a long shot, Muslims. Even Palestinian suicide bombers are/were very indiscriminate and would often kills as many Arabs as Jews in the attacks.
I just came in here to recommend the Citizen Eco-Drive and I see I'm not the only one. Listen, I bought mine about 3 weeks before Service Merchandise liquidated in 2002. The lady there didn't know how to resize the band so mine fell off about 5 times (hitting pavement) before I finally took it to get the band fixed. It was unaffected by the trama. The watch simply kicks ass and takes names.
So, mine is now 10 years old and still looks sharp. The slide rule still works, the battery still works, and I've never changed the battery since it recharges itself with the built-in solar panel. It's a geeky watch that doesn't look geeky. It has all the time zones in it and does day light savings time (manually) so I can easily tell what time it is when traveling. It has alarms and stopwatches and all that, too.
It's also a joy to read how it's programmed to save battery. At the bare minimum, if it's totally dark the second hand will simply park at 0 and quit moving. When exposed to light, it will race around to catch up.
Did I mention the slide rule?
Lastly, my wife - who is an asian babe - loves it. That alone should do it for you.
There was a guy around here who they tried to charge with bomb-making. As a prank he had put vinegar and baking soda in a 2-liter jug and blew it up in front of someone's house. Now, tell me again, is the original poster being hyperbolic? Or is "the crown"?
Right. If you're going to use a number, it would have to be market cap. As others have pointed out, it also helps to not make your "baseline" in the middle of a crazy bubble....
Isn't this what the MPAA and RIAA have been trying to do with SOPA/PIPA and all these other bills? I guess it's only ok when they do it though.
More to the point: This is what they did with the DMCA. The irony here is that the MPAA's lawyers are arguing against the law that they or their cronies wrote.
I have had whohasesp.com up for maybe 8 years now. It uses the standard five cards. The punch line is that the visitors have made under 20% over the years, about 19.90% consistently. It's likely a bias in the random number generator, but still funny.
Further, it's the submitter's OPINION that this person was being arrested "illegally". That's something the courts will now decide. The troubling part is that the video would probably be the key evidence in such a case, I agree.
That's also the officer's opinion, or he wouldn't have illegally deleted the recording. Period.
Now with something like medical weed you have an outright conflict.
Constitutionally, there is no conflict. The federal government has no Constitutional legal authority over a product that never crosses state lines. Their powers for regulating commerce very specifically are for INTERSTATE commerce via Article I, Section 8. Therefore, if a state wants to allow marijuana they can.
As for the TSA, again, they have no legal authority. States may very well restrict TSA goons with statutes if they wish. Whether the federal government wants to obey is another story, but the local sheriff still has the authority to arrest pretty much anybody in his county.
And, in fact, the article to which the "to defend his standing as email's creator" link takes you [internetevolution.com] quotes him as saying "I did not claim that I created electronic communications," so at least give him credit for that.
He owns the domain "inventorofemail.com" - surely that alone is enough for you to consider withdrawing the credit...
Whenever a story like would come across/. 4 years ago, we would have endless posts about Bush being an idiot, etc. Now, I can't find a single one saying anything about Obama.....
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On port 82, too! Hopefully you'll get some comments over there...
Ok, so you might have found an example of a good regulation to cut. Of course, you're going to have to fight against the corporations who want the regulations to begin with, so good luck with that. Making government smaller probably wouldn't help, since the cartel would probably just use other means to enforce its power.
That last statement was where you tried to move the goalposts. FYI.
Actually, I do understand the fallacy. But its application is limited severely by the fact that a "Scotsman" is easily defined by a birth certificate.
The double fallacy comes in to play when someone tries to apply it in a case where the definition isn't as cut and dry. Almost invariably the person pushing the NTS angle has some gripe with whatever group they're trying to paint as "evil" or whatever, and they're pushing their agenda by relating a fringe element of said group with the group itself. If you try to point out that the fringe element has nothing to do with "the group" and is in fact opposed to the general beliefs of "the group", they pull out the NTS. I've seen this *many* times. That's the NTSFF.
As I said, if Joseph Hazelwood comes out as an environmentalist, that doesn't mean that we suddenly all like to do things like him. It would mean that *he* was wrong.
Such as? Let's go at this another way, name a company that has been shut down or kept out of a market because of regulations?
Look up the taxi cartels in any major city for a great example that's easy to understand. If you want to get more specific, look at Nashville TN and the recently passed law setting rate limits on sedan and limo services. Not only are they blocking entry to the market, they're actively trying to destroy a particular business that I have used in the past.
I can come up with other examples in other industries if you'd like, but I'm guessing that you'll attempt to move the goalposts and claim you still got a touchdown....
As opposed to the communists where it's one person no vote vs one dollar one million votes. You can't win.
Is it a NTS though if the alleged fallacy-rebuttal is in fact part of the definition of something? If by definition fear of change truly is contrary to the genuine nature of capitalism then it is not a fallacy to genuinely assault the legitimacy of claiming the title "capitalist" applies.
That's what I call the "No True Scotsman Fallacy Fallacy". The fact is that a Scotsman is one by birth, and so there's an easily described definition of a Scotsman. You are or you aren't, and a simple birth certificate check will ell.
"Capitalist" also has a definition, but it's not as cut and dry as "Scotsman". Still, it's pretty obvious that while anyone can claim to be a capitalist, some people are so far outside the definition that they clearly aren't. That's not a fallacy.
Here's how I usually handle it. It seems that most people who use the NTSFF are lefties. Fine. If Joseph Hazelwood claims to be an environmentalist that means that some environmentalists like to get drunk and trash wildlife refuges by spilling millions of gallons of oil in them, right? No, it would mean that he's a crackpot.
Oddly, Nobody pulls out the NTSFF when you put it in those terms.
While it's nice that Comcast is standing up to them, if you read through you'll find that it's four porn companies. In other words, they're not standing up (in this case, at least) to any of the MAFIAA members.
As an example:
Go to http://www.google.com.hk/
and put in
tiananmen square massacre
It'll show those three words in red everywhere on the page.
I can imagine sending the other vehicles the "signal" to head to my place for unloading. The security implications are tremendous.
The biggest single group of victims of Islamic terrorism and militantism is, by a long shot, Muslims. Even Palestinian suicide bombers are/were very indiscriminate and would often kills as many Arabs as Jews in the attacks.
It is a Skyhawk. They discontinued it at some point, but you can find lots of info on the web:
http://www.princetonwatches.com/shop/jr3000-51f.asp
I just came in here to recommend the Citizen Eco-Drive and I see I'm not the only one. Listen, I bought mine about 3 weeks before Service Merchandise liquidated in 2002. The lady there didn't know how to resize the band so mine fell off about 5 times (hitting pavement) before I finally took it to get the band fixed. It was unaffected by the trama. The watch simply kicks ass and takes names.
So, mine is now 10 years old and still looks sharp. The slide rule still works, the battery still works, and I've never changed the battery since it recharges itself with the built-in solar panel. It's a geeky watch that doesn't look geeky. It has all the time zones in it and does day light savings time (manually) so I can easily tell what time it is when traveling. It has alarms and stopwatches and all that, too.
It's also a joy to read how it's programmed to save battery. At the bare minimum, if it's totally dark the second hand will simply park at 0 and quit moving. When exposed to light, it will race around to catch up.
Did I mention the slide rule?
Lastly, my wife - who is an asian babe - loves it. That alone should do it for you.
There was a guy around here who they tried to charge with bomb-making. As a prank he had put vinegar and baking soda in a 2-liter jug and blew it up in front of someone's house. Now, tell me again, is the original poster being hyperbolic? Or is "the crown"?
Right. If you're going to use a number, it would have to be market cap. As others have pointed out, it also helps to not make your "baseline" in the middle of a crazy bubble....
Not sure what we'd do without it....
We have one better - government may not limit freedom, period.
Unfortunately, it's ignored. What's written is important, but following it is key.
Yes, I totally get that. What the next poster says is correct, too - they're always going to argue in favor of racheting the laws up.
Isn't this what the MPAA and RIAA have been trying to do with SOPA/PIPA and all these other bills? I guess it's only ok when they do it though.
More to the point: This is what they did with the DMCA. The irony here is that the MPAA's lawyers are arguing against the law that they or their cronies wrote.
I have had whohasesp.com up for maybe 8 years now. It uses the standard five cards. The punch line is that the visitors have made under 20% over the years, about 19.90% consistently. It's likely a bias in the random number generator, but still funny.
obesity is at an all-time high.
That's also the officer's opinion, or he wouldn't have illegally deleted the recording. Period.
I could fix this with a $35 payment to someone?
Constitutionally, there is no conflict. The federal government has no Constitutional legal authority over a product that never crosses state lines. Their powers for regulating commerce very specifically are for INTERSTATE commerce via Article I, Section 8. Therefore, if a state wants to allow marijuana they can.
As for the TSA, again, they have no legal authority. States may very well restrict TSA goons with statutes if they wish. Whether the federal government wants to obey is another story, but the local sheriff still has the authority to arrest pretty much anybody in his county.
He owns the domain "inventorofemail.com" - surely that alone is enough for you to consider withdrawing the credit...
Whenever a story like would come across /. 4 years ago, we would have endless posts about Bush being an idiot, etc. Now, I can't find a single one saying anything about Obama.....