Swedish Stora Kopparberg and Finnish Enso-Gutzeit Oy merged into Stora Enso. [...] Stora Kopparberg [...] is probably the oldest existing corporation in the world.
Your melting my brain here.. err.. I think it's partly because flamebait and factually weak stories here are still interesting; perhaps because the stories here whilst occasionally astroturf-y are generally tech focussed rather than politcally or morally focussed.
I used to be quite an active member of a site called ParentDish. They turned to posts which were basically just flamebait, often untrue and contradicting factually the linked sources they gave. I didn't leave, just visited less.
They turned to ads that flashed pink + yellow and told you you'd "definitely won". I quit and never went back. (ok I visited once in the last couple of months).
I use adblock and on some systems noscript but unblock sites that I use.
Lol, almost the next site I visited was digg "KDE 4.2 is out!"... it's better again than the last iteration. They've fixed a few of my grievances, for example size information for PNGs (but not JPEG?) in the info pane of Dolphin.
This effect of course is amplified in KDE which has in the past been highly configurable. Plus KDE4 (at least for the initial release) forced a paradigm change, a desktop environment without the desktop metaphor... curious!
From my few brief experiences KDE developers _seem_ to have an attitude of "if it affects me I'll fix it" which is fine, they're mostly working for free. But that does kinda make me not bother reporting bugs + if I was reporting all my bugs/crashes I wouldn't have time to read Slashdot.*
The bug in question sounds like the effect I was getting which appears to have been fixed in 4.1.96 (RC1) but was present in 4.1.80.
This was not, as other posters in the thread appear to want to claim, due to that users incompetence. His comments weren't totally unreasonable.
KDE has had major problems with font support on the desktop until recently; incidentally there are currently no settings to alter the size of the date text. The date and time font sizes are set by the height of the panel - clearly this is a sensible and neat feature, but it was broken. I hesitated to say "horribly broken" but the clock is one of the main visible elements in most peoples kicker/panel/application bar and as such is one of those "first impressions" features that are really important to get right if you want your interface to appear professional. Changing the font used by KDE seemed to help before.
<rant>P.S. Not to mention that somebody at kde decided that konqueror should be a web browser and not a file manager. I'll never understand this... from my perspective they had some software that was a very mediocre web browser but what was in my opinion, the best file manager in existence and they threw out the file manager. For one thing, those two functions should never be in the same software, you can thank Microsoft and leveraging its monopoly for that particular monstrosity, but something is obviously wrong with the kde development process if they're making decisions like this. It's no wonder that kde4 turned out so badly.*grumble grumble*</rant>
You didn't mention the worst part - they chucked out Konqueror FM and put Dolphin in its place. No problem you say, Konq is still there, just that all the file manager views have been ripped out and hidden to try and stop you using it.
We're on the verge of 4.2 (I've got 4.2 RC1 on Kubuntu 8.10) and I can't have filesizes in icon view, I can't get image dimensions without opening an image, can't view meta-data in the information pane, don't have bookmarks (no "Places" don't count), don't have a visual filesize view (either filelight or that funky squares view from Konq-KDE3), don't have view templates or memory of previous view properties.
And there are good reasons to have the FM able to open web pages, like being able to drag-drop a download. I use to love being able to right-click a zipped folder on a website (think Wordpress / Joomla templates, etc.) choose "open with ark" then output the unzipped files to an ftp/fish site. You certainly can't do that now.
There's some progress for sure, but Dolphin isn't to 1.0 yet IMO depite being labelled 1.1.80.
And before the apologetics claim I'm resistant to change, I'm not. I just like features to be available; more features in higher versions.
All that said, kudos to the programmer dudes, just please try not to listening to the marketing demons when adding your version labels.
Liquid helium is alittle more expensive (about 2x AFAICT) per litre than Milk.
Not sure if it has a full weeks shelf life under normal fridge temperatures though? How good are dewar flasks nowadays?
What's the recycling part supposed to mean. I understand the trash and retrieving from the trash metaphor.. but recycling?
Does some crawler come around and take your files away and turn them into new documents??
I seem to recall that stats (released for an anniversary I think) showed that more Win boxen than any other type access./
They should print your browser string in the comment title...
God, I don't know what I'd do without Expose nowdays. [...]
Perhaps use the equivalent features in Gnome/KDE?
I'd never heard of expos/e and spaces before today (I only have 2 friends that use a Mac at home) but now I suspect I know where Kwin took the idea from... yes that's right from Compiz (joking!).
When I first saw the Windows 7 intro talk I thought - why are they harping on about the live previews in the taskbar, I have that in KDE4 now. The Win7 ones are slightly better (being "active" too).
Quarterdeck also had the Sidebar product, a paradigm which has often
been copied in the decade and a half since.
Of course, just because the same feature appears in different places doesn't mean it has been copied from one to the other.
I was searching for font managers for Linux the other day and came up with a list of features I thought would be good and apparently were missing... then the next app I found, the font manager "FontMatrix", had most of those features! If I'd gone away and made an app with those features then everyone would assume I'd just copied them... FWIW, which probably isn't much.
As an experiment I once vandalised an obscure page (very obviously but not profanely) to see how soon it would be reverted. I thought I could go back in half an hour and revert it. One minute.
That's a good wager - http://www.seomoz.org/dp/top-domains - SEOMOZ's linkscape tool (a web crawling tool for SEO metrics) gives Wikipedia the most inbound links of any site at 87Million, 13Million (17.5%) more than the next site Google!
IMO SEOMOZ rocks, perhaps I'll get some Moz-Karma for posting here?
Slashdot Mirror
Swedish Stora Kopparberg and Finnish Enso-Gutzeit Oy merged into Stora Enso. [...] Stora Kopparberg [...] is probably the oldest existing corporation in the world.
Except for the fact that it no longer exists?
Your melting my brain here .. err .. I think it's partly because flamebait and factually weak stories here are still interesting; perhaps because the stories here whilst occasionally astroturf-y are generally tech focussed rather than politcally or morally focussed.
Perhaps I've just fallen for the FUD ....
+1 humormative
I used to be quite an active member of a site called ParentDish. They turned to posts which were basically just flamebait, often untrue and contradicting factually the linked sources they gave. I didn't leave, just visited less.
They turned to ads that flashed pink + yellow and told you you'd "definitely won". I quit and never went back. (ok I visited once in the last couple of months).
I use adblock and on some systems noscript but unblock sites that I use.
Lol, almost the next site I visited was digg "KDE 4.2 is out!" ... it's better again than the last iteration. They've fixed a few of my grievances, for example size information for PNGs (but not JPEG?) in the info pane of Dolphin.
This effect of course is amplified in KDE which has in the past been highly configurable. Plus KDE4 (at least for the initial release) forced a paradigm change, a desktop environment without the desktop metaphor ... curious!
I had the same bug.
From my few brief experiences KDE developers _seem_ to have an attitude of "if it affects me I'll fix it" which is fine, they're mostly working for free. But that does kinda make me not bother reporting bugs + if I was reporting all my bugs/crashes I wouldn't have time to read Slashdot.*
The bug in question sounds like the effect I was getting which appears to have been fixed in 4.1.96 (RC1) but was present in 4.1.80.
KDE teams appear to have known about it: ... etc ...
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166883
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157537
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158762
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163870
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=178840
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=178859
This was not, as other posters in the thread appear to want to claim, due to that users incompetence. His comments weren't totally unreasonable.
KDE has had major problems with font support on the desktop until recently; incidentally there are currently no settings to alter the size of the date text. The date and time font sizes are set by the height of the panel - clearly this is a sensible and neat feature, but it was broken. I hesitated to say "horribly broken" but the clock is one of the main visible elements in most peoples kicker/panel/application bar and as such is one of those "first impressions" features that are really important to get right if you want your interface to appear professional. Changing the font used by KDE seemed to help before.
For those just looking at the RC it's like the [relatively] massive numbers used in the clocks pop-up calendar widget ( https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=178588 ).
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* FWIW I focus on a couple of non-KDE projects and do my best to report bugs and provide user support for them.
<rant>P.S. Not to mention that somebody at kde decided that konqueror should be a web browser and not a file manager. I'll never understand this... from my perspective they had some software that was a very mediocre web browser but what was in my opinion, the best file manager in existence and they threw out the file manager. For one thing, those two functions should never be in the same software, you can thank Microsoft and leveraging its monopoly for that particular monstrosity, but something is obviously wrong with the kde development process if they're making decisions like this. It's no wonder that kde4 turned out so badly.*grumble grumble*</rant>
You didn't mention the worst part - they chucked out Konqueror FM and put Dolphin in its place. No problem you say, Konq is still there, just that all the file manager views have been ripped out and hidden to try and stop you using it.
We're on the verge of 4.2 (I've got 4.2 RC1 on Kubuntu 8.10) and I can't have filesizes in icon view, I can't get image dimensions without opening an image, can't view meta-data in the information pane, don't have bookmarks (no "Places" don't count), don't have a visual filesize view (either filelight or that funky squares view from Konq-KDE3), don't have view templates or memory of previous view properties.
And there are good reasons to have the FM able to open web pages, like being able to drag-drop a download. I use to love being able to right-click a zipped folder on a website (think Wordpress / Joomla templates, etc.) choose "open with ark" then output the unzipped files to an ftp/fish site. You certainly can't do that now.
There's some progress for sure, but Dolphin isn't to 1.0 yet IMO depite being labelled 1.1.80.
And before the apologetics claim I'm resistant to change, I'm not. I just like features to be available; more features in higher versions.
All that said, kudos to the programmer dudes, just please try not to listening to the marketing demons when adding your version labels.
la-fout-laude
Am I close enough?
As close as I'll get .. you'll do!
But the changes must fly past pretty quickly .. like hundreds per minute. This was an obscure provincial page about an unimportant backwater.
Suddenly my whole life makes sense. Thanks.
Liquid helium is alittle more expensive (about 2x AFAICT) per litre than Milk. Not sure if it has a full weeks shelf life under normal fridge temperatures though? How good are dewar flasks nowadays?
Yeah, nuking it from orbit is the only way to be sure ...
[wish I new what that meme referred to]
I figured undelete was similar to recycling a file [...]
Because you break it down into its component parts and make something else from it?
What's the recycling part supposed to mean. I understand the trash and retrieving from the trash metaphor .. but recycling?
Does some crawler come around and take your files away and turn them into new documents??
I seem to recall that stats (released for an anniversary I think) showed that more Win boxen than any other type access ./
They should print your browser string in the comment title ...
Awesomebar!?!?
KDE4 is KDE4 for windows though, QT4 is available for Windows now.
God, I don't know what I'd do without Expose nowdays. [...]
Perhaps use the equivalent features in Gnome/KDE? I'd never heard of expos/e and spaces before today (I only have 2 friends that use a Mac at home) but now I suspect I know where Kwin took the idea from ... yes that's right from Compiz (joking!).
When I first saw the Windows 7 intro talk I thought - why are they harping on about the live previews in the taskbar, I have that in KDE4 now. The Win7 ones are slightly better (being "active" too).
Quarterdeck also had the Sidebar product, a paradigm which has often been copied in the decade and a half since.
Of course, just because the same feature appears in different places doesn't mean it has been copied from one to the other.
I was searching for font managers for Linux the other day and came up with a list of features I thought would be good and apparently were missing ... then the next app I found, the font manager "FontMatrix", had most of those features! If I'd gone away and made an app with those features then everyone would assume I'd just copied them ... FWIW, which probably isn't much.
Has Mark Russinovich's wife tried turning it off and on again?
As an experiment I once vandalised an obscure page (very obviously but not profanely) to see how soon it would be reverted. I thought I could go back in half an hour and revert it. One minute.
Witness the power of the INTAR-WEBS ....
That's a good wager - http://www.seomoz.org/dp/top-domains - SEOMOZ's linkscape tool (a web crawling tool for SEO metrics) gives Wikipedia the most inbound links of any site at 87Million, 13Million (17.5%) more than the next site Google!
IMO SEOMOZ rocks, perhaps I'll get some Moz-Karma for posting here?
I see what you did there ... ... better get some curtains.