From where I am now (suburbs of a UK city) I can get to Starbucks (by Scooter) in about 8 mins. It will take me about 45 mins to download OOo via a domestic "broadband".
OpenOffice is a about 80 MB which is pretty big in terms of the applications I have installed. Inkscape is 8 MB which I thought was big enough to qualify - there were smaller files (O(1MB)) on the torrent sites.
As my post caused you to generate humour... does that mean it was a good post??!;0)>
I came to Inkscape from Sodipodi for the same reason - the GUI.
Have been using it extensively on WinXP and Slackware Linux (now on v.10). It does have some instabilities but I haven't found it any less stable than Firefox.
When 0.41 came out with patterns and text-on-a-curve I was actually excited - I use Inkscape for doing advertising stuff and for designing pngs for my websites.
>>> "why doesn't MS hire people who do these elementary steps"
Of course they do. Just they hire others to calculate cost benefits versus court costs. They probably factor in the cost of buying some alterations to trademark law while they are about it.;0)>... for the curious OHIM is at http://oami.eu.int/en/default.htm
Yeah, IE7 will probably have border-radius without using the CSS "standard".
It will support a new png-like graphics format that isn't png but works almost as well.
It will crash on any site with -moz in the styles.
Clippy will help you browse the internet.
You'll get warnings like "this site is not authorised by Microsoft, viewing this site may cause your computer to lose data files and stop responding or allow an authorised user access, are you sure you want to continue to 'google.com'".
For me the extensions are what keeps me with FF. The webdeveloper extension justifies the choice of browser by itself.
Then there's adblock!
Last I heard Opera didn't have the community extensibility which leaves the way open for innovation _and_ allows many cool Opera features to be integrated such as properly working tabs and mouse gestures.
Someone I'm sure can correct me and tell me where Opera got these from?! And in any case "there is nothing new under the sun"... Opera (or whoever) just used a metaphor: tabs from filing cabinets, gestures from people making signs.
standards compliance ... drag and drop in Gallery
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You may be interested to know that Gallery the wonderful OSS php gallery (which I'm using to let my family see pics of our new baby, btw) has a Java based system for enabling drag and drop of images into the galleries. It's non-native styling but works quite well for me on WinXP with FF.
I'm just not quite sure how to pronounce it. "Mind-awn" presumably a type of awning for covering your mind? Or, "min-dawn" which seems to be like dawn only less so!?
Perhaps they meant "Minddawn"?
But then finding good names - that carpet baggers haven't grabbed the domain for and aren't RTM - is very hard.
I'm so happy you punched me in the nose... it allowed me to demonstrate that I wouldn't get angry!!
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Seriously, that's not predicatbility, you're prediction could be wrong. Something is predictable when it's known that A(t=now) -> B(t=now + 1 unit), so when we have A we know B will follow at the appointed time.
The results from LHC are interpreted to create a picture of reality. They don't demonstrate the nature of reality itself (I guess you're a copenhagen kinda guy?).
Incidentally the hadron bootstrap is a theory of hadrons that discounts the existence of quarks whilst, from what I recall, still account for the strong interactions that are supposed to require baryonic and mesonic (sp?) matter to be non-elemental. It's probably been falsified, but it's not very mainstream so I don't know.
So if LHC shows that brane theory is consistent. What of your "belief" in quarks?
>>> "When experiences match theory closely"
How closely? Not a very scientific statement... and do you believe in the higgs boson, it doesn't fit current experimental data, in fact IIRC the theory has had to be tweaked a few times to account for not yet having found it. Incidentally, higgs fields are a cool idea.
>>> "Science is not faith-based but fact-based"
So what of the non-logical axioms that underpin (for example) relativity and quantum mechanics. What truths were used to establish the postulates? And if truths were used, why have postulates??
>>> "Confidence in one's experiments or theory is only confidence and has to be tested to be considered valid."
Define valid. Newtonian mechanics was once believed to be valid. At best any theory is not yet falsified.
Elsewhere in this thread someone was talking quite wisely about repeatability. I take quite a Popperian view on science, that science is about showing what is not logically consistent and not about showing what is true. Someone responded by noting that repeatability over time can be used to establish a firm scientific truth. My question then is what of the view held by most physicists that the "laws of physics" break down at singularities. Singularities are thus the equivalent of that one time in a million that the sun doesn't rise in the East (the stereotypical example used in philosophy books of old); or the ball doesn't fall under gravity.
It was a special case where the eigenvalues mapped to the zeta-function. You obviously weren't listenting to corollary to the normalised recapitulation of equation 33 b (ii)... duh!
Damn, if only I hadn't fallen asleep at the wheel I'd be building quantum computers by now instead of being dead.
NASA were bound to do it though as they couldn't alter the future. Given that the universe is predictable - NASA were forced to take that action from the original state given to the universe.
Or perhaps predicatbility and determinisim are divergent. I don't know, my brain wants to reboot just approaching thinking about that question.
Like quarks... where's the objective verification.
What about the hadron boot-strap? Branes?
I think we take a lot on faith without realising it. Much of that is based on someone elses faith too!
By applying logic, I've never really got beyond the questions of other minds and the existence of external actual reality as an explanation for sense-data. And I don't see Occam's razor as being a logical method.
Bios password isn't got to stop the theft, it's going to stop the laptop being used afterwards... until they hard-reset the bios. It might work against you as it might result in the laptop being trashed. If it's used then you at least have a chance to catch the culprit(s).
If you want to discourage theft I reckon the grunge look (ie case mod it to hell, as others suggest) is the only way.
If you want to inhibit theft a cable lock is a good idea.
If you want to reduce financial loss then get insurance.
>>> "Ah yes, and anyone who clips a coupon out of the newspaper is a criminal too!"
In the UK I expect so! No, whilst there is probably an implied license from the copyright holder to remove a coupon I don't think there's a problem doing it for _yourself_.
However, the parent referred to paying someone else to do it. This wouldn't fall under most interpretations of "fair use" as it's a commercial activity. Most "fair use" exceptions refer to personal, educational or reporting/reviewing. And you rightly mention artistic uses that are derived but not considered copying.
>>> "If I want to hire someone to eliminate the sports section and the fasion section and and move teh siceince section to the front and clip the ads out of a newspaper before I read it, well once they gave me that newspaper that copy is my property and I can hire someone to do as I like with it."
Not true. Under (c)opyright law you can't modify the work without the (c)opyright owners consent. Snipping ads amounts to modification. If you hire someone then its commercial and they at least would be sued.
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Ok already!
... does that mean it was a good post??! ;0)>
Though I do detect just a hint of hyperbole.
From where I am now (suburbs of a UK city) I can get to Starbucks (by Scooter) in about 8 mins. It will take me about 45 mins to download OOo via a domestic "broadband".
OpenOffice is a about 80 MB which is pretty big in terms of the applications I have installed. Inkscape is 8 MB which I thought was big enough to qualify - there were smaller files (O(1MB)) on the torrent sites.
As my post caused you to generate humour
All good points, I guess what I was trying to say was that the tech is awesome. But finding torrents seems rather fragmentary.
I tried google with "filetype:torrent" but of course for zero-day releases that's not likely to be great. I tried several torrent listing sites.
Admittedly I did find full distros and considered that as a route to getting the tar balls!
Thanks for the solidz link (didn't turn up for me). Etree was prevalent though.
>>> "The beauty of bittorrent is that on top of being efficient is that it's easy to use. You find a torrent link, you click it, you're good to go."
Hmm, I decided to try out bit torrents via Azureus as I had a few apps to download. The applications were Inkscape, Scribus and Audacity.
Couldn't find any torrents to use.
It might be excellent if you're after pirated commercial apps or pr0n, but I was suprised I couldn't find torrents for these OS apps.
Oh well. Perhaps I'll try again when OOo 2.0 comes out.
Me too!
I came to Inkscape from Sodipodi for the same reason - the GUI.
Have been using it extensively on WinXP and Slackware Linux (now on v.10). It does have some instabilities but I haven't found it any less stable than Firefox.
When 0.41 came out with patterns and text-on-a-curve I was actually excited - I use Inkscape for doing advertising stuff and for designing pngs for my websites.
Just thought I'd mention it.
Also there's a perl script for transforming ai2svg somewhere.
.ai export at some stage. Or does Illustrator import svg? (Inkscape can export standardised svg).
Which give me some hope that we might get
>>> "why doesn't MS hire people who do these elementary steps"
;0)> ... for the curious OHIM is at http://oami.eu.int/en/default.htm
Of course they do. Just they hire others to calculate cost benefits versus court costs. They probably factor in the cost of buying some alterations to trademark law while they are about it.
Yeah, IE7 will probably have border-radius without using the CSS "standard".
;0)>
It will support a new png-like graphics format that isn't png but works almost as well.
It will crash on any site with -moz in the styles.
Clippy will help you browse the internet.
You'll get warnings like "this site is not authorised by Microsoft, viewing this site may cause your computer to lose data files and stop responding or allow an authorised user access, are you sure you want to continue to 'google.com'".
IE7 will be great!
does Opera have extensions now?
... Opera (or whoever) just used a metaphor: tabs from filing cabinets, gestures from people making signs.
For me the extensions are what keeps me with FF. The webdeveloper extension justifies the choice of browser by itself.
Then there's adblock!
Last I heard Opera didn't have the community extensibility which leaves the way open for innovation _and_ allows many cool Opera features to be integrated such as properly working tabs and mouse gestures.
Someone I'm sure can correct me and tell me where Opera got these from?! And in any case "there is nothing new under the sun"
You may be interested to know that Gallery the wonderful OSS php gallery (which I'm using to let my family see pics of our new baby, btw) has a Java based system for enabling drag and drop of images into the galleries. It's non-native styling but works quite well for me on WinXP with FF.
HTH with your "problem".
pbhj
I'm just not quite sure how to pronounce it. "Mind-awn" presumably a type of awning for covering your mind? Or, "min-dawn" which seems to be like dawn only less so!?
Perhaps they meant "Minddawn"?
But then finding good names - that carpet baggers haven't grabbed the domain for and aren't RTM - is very hard.
I'm so happy you punched me in the nose ... it allowed me to demonstrate that I wouldn't get angry!!
&:{}p>
Seriously, that's not predicatbility, you're prediction could be wrong. Something is predictable when it's known that A(t=now) -> B(t=now + 1 unit), so when we have A we know B will follow at the appointed time.
PS: I thought you'd say that .
The results from LHC are interpreted to create a picture of reality. They don't demonstrate the nature of reality itself (I guess you're a copenhagen kinda guy?).
... and do you believe in the higgs boson, it doesn't fit current experimental data, in fact IIRC the theory has had to be tweaked a few times to account for not yet having found it. Incidentally, higgs fields are a cool idea.
Incidentally the hadron bootstrap is a theory of hadrons that discounts the existence of quarks whilst, from what I recall, still account for the strong interactions that are supposed to require baryonic and mesonic (sp?) matter to be non-elemental. It's probably been falsified, but it's not very mainstream so I don't know.
So if LHC shows that brane theory is consistent. What of your "belief" in quarks?
>>> "When experiences match theory closely"
How closely? Not a very scientific statement
>>> "Science is not faith-based but fact-based"
So what of the non-logical axioms that underpin (for example) relativity and quantum mechanics. What truths were used to establish the postulates? And if truths were used, why have postulates??
>>> "Confidence in one's experiments or theory is only confidence and has to be tested to be considered valid."
Define valid. Newtonian mechanics was once believed to be valid. At best any theory is not yet falsified.
Elsewhere in this thread someone was talking quite wisely about repeatability. I take quite a Popperian view on science, that science is about showing what is not logically consistent and not about showing what is true. Someone responded by noting that repeatability over time can be used to establish a firm scientific truth. My question then is what of the view held by most physicists that the "laws of physics" break down at singularities. Singularities are thus the equivalent of that one time in a million that the sun doesn't rise in the East (the stereotypical example used in philosophy books of old); or the ball doesn't fall under gravity.
It was a special case where the eigenvalues mapped to the zeta-function. You obviously weren't listenting to corollary to the normalised recapitulation of equation 33 b (ii) ... duh!
Damn, if only I hadn't fallen asleep at the wheel I'd be building quantum computers by now instead of being dead.
Oh well.
That's QM for you!?!
NASA were bound to do it though as they couldn't alter the future. Given that the universe is predictable - NASA were forced to take that action from the original state given to the universe.
Or perhaps predicatbility and determinisim are divergent. I don't know, my brain wants to reboot just approaching thinking about that question.
Like quarks ... where's the objective verification.
What about the hadron boot-strap? Branes?
I think we take a lot on faith without realising it. Much of that is based on someone elses faith too!
By applying logic, I've never really got beyond the questions of other minds and the existence of external actual reality as an explanation for sense-data. And I don't see Occam's razor as being a logical method.
Well said!
I welcome our new analogue processing overlords.
;0)>
Or was that done already.
PS: In American that's "anal-og pro-sess'ng o-vr-lds"
Bios password isn't got to stop the theft, it's going to stop the laptop being used afterwards ... until they hard-reset the bios. It might work against you as it might result in the laptop being trashed. If it's used then you at least have a chance to catch the culprit(s).
If you want to discourage theft I reckon the grunge look (ie case mod it to hell, as others suggest) is the only way.
If you want to inhibit theft a cable lock is a good idea.
If you want to reduce financial loss then get insurance.
If you want to reduce data loss, get backing up.
>>> "Ah yes, and anyone who clips a coupon out of the newspaper is a criminal too!"
:0p>
In the UK I expect so! No, whilst there is probably an implied license from the copyright holder to remove a coupon I don't think there's a problem doing it for _yourself_.
However, the parent referred to paying someone else to do it. This wouldn't fall under most interpretations of "fair use" as it's a commercial activity. Most "fair use" exceptions refer to personal, educational or reporting/reviewing. And you rightly mention artistic uses that are derived but not considered copying.
So there
>>> "If I want to hire someone to eliminate the sports section and the fasion section and and move teh siceince section to the front and clip the ads out of a newspaper before I read it, well once they gave me that newspaper that copy is my property and I can hire someone to do as I like with it."
Not true. Under (c)opyright law you can't modify the work without the (c)opyright owners consent. Snipping ads amounts to modification. If you hire someone then its commercial and they at least would be sued.
there are lots of free web hosts, I used to use Lycos for php+mysql , there are lots of wikis that you could use.
Perhaps we could get America to support a civil uprising in favour of bringin democracy to Europe.
I'm not sure if I'm joking here or not.
Could be the driver(s). Whether you consider that part of the OS or not is probably debateable (sp?).
>>> how does a small company become a large one
By being the least crap.
Seriously, I'd go +3, about one third of the comments. You can always drill down if you need to see more.