On the flip side.... Microsoft could spend their hordes of cash, and get 51% ownership for $11.781 billion.
In all actuality, seems a decent price for them to flat buy google.
What must be really annoying, is that.NET has borrowed so many classes from Java so they should call it J--.
Well I don't think Microsoft has ever denied it --- but they do what they do. They hired the then head of Borland's Delphi devision, and molded Delphi, C++, and Java. And I think it put together an excellent language, platform independence
Has anyone used either in a tech-support area? We write windows desktop software, and I'd like to give users the ability to double click on the computer they want to open. Then (here's the tricky part), I want all changes to the computer wiped clean -- no ability for the user to choose to save the changes.
Anyone created something like that using this (or other) products?
Well all that might be true (about the MSI), but with.NET you can have an installation that is no more than x-copy. You just copy over the directory structute, and there's no registry changes or dll registration. (once the.NET is installed)
There are exceptions, but if you design it that way, it really will work that way.
I think this is what you meant by F#, right? Fortrant.NET wasn't written by microsoft, they just used the specs to write to IL (or so I think).
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... was missing the trajectory (batting) half.
Actually, there was a lot of trajectory -- in perfect games the fielders are as much to congratulate as the pitcher. There are 27 outs in a game if you pitch the 9th inning. He did not have 27 strike outs; there was a majority of outs made by the batters hitting the ball
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I would say Microsoft's profits in the UK are in the order of serveral billion dollars.
But it has to be future profits. and there are both a hard cost of selling that $100 per pc (manuals, cd, etc) and then other costs, such as:
Distribution
Supporting it
Keeping a physical presence in Europe
Sales force, development on local version
I don't see them pulling out, but I don't think its an open and shut case either. They can come up with a new product line and claim its a competitor to Windows and then start this decade-long charade all over again
Now we are being told to accept that the EU now decides how US companies do business WITH ONE ANOTHER.
Getting a little too big for their britches.
Hey, I hate Europe as much as the next necent human being, but they're not telling microsoft how to sell their product in America / Lagos / Indonesia / insert_random_place_here. They're saying, if you're going to sell in Europe, you will follow europe's rules.
Because europeans would simply pirate their software
Even so, they are still better off than paying a billion dollar fine. This conclusion is based on the assumption that the profits for the Windows Product Line being sold in Europe is less than one billion US dollars.
If the government should pick from a list of, let's say, murder, famine, and disease, which ones would you support?
Asking me if I support murder is like asking me why I want grandmothers to die when I say social security should be abolished.
Our government was not formed to prevent murders, or famine, or disease. The local authorities do not prevent murders, they punish them. As for famine and disease, private enterprise can handle them far better than the public.
I've never heard of the US called "The Great Society", but if you think things like education, healthcare, social security, and pensions are the makings of an authoritarian regime, then you really need to reconsider your perspective in a worldwide context.
Education is handled on the State/Local level, or at least, should be. The most advanced and best healthcare is available to every person in the US -- FREE Healthcare is not. As for social security and pensions -- those are investments, and the government has no right telling you that you have to save for retirement.
The Great Society is a socialist state. We need less government, less welfare, less projects, less help.
The government does not exist to help people. It exists to protect people. But protection, in my opinion, does not mean protection from the realities of life.
If Microsoft cared about SPAM......allowed a user to disable a the javascript popup function in the browser
I think that's a pretty expansive definition of SPAM. Does everything annoying become SPAM? I see popups as advertising (and something that mozilla effectively killed for me), and SPAM as fraud.
I don't love microsoft, but I think this article makes several claims without backing them up or offering any explanation as to their merits. Such as:
.NET, on the other hand, is Microsoft's chosen successor to Visual BASIC, and effectively exposes source code at the very heart of Microsoft consumer and enterprise applications.
If.NET is Such a Security Nightmare (It Is)...
And "You can write a program in C# or Visual Basic.NET." while factually accurate, ignores Delphi.NET, C++ managed code using the CRL, and other implementations of the CRL (COBOL, etc).
I think the basic premise of the article, where if someone is using your objects it is obviously a bad thing/security breach, is flawed. If you need to secure your objects, SECURE them! Seal them, see who is calling you, etc.
Lastly, As shown by previous posts, Obfuscation is not the end-all panacea to security. In my opinion, it's barely a detour. Otherwise, Open Source literally could not be secure.
Other than selling services to corporations and little text ads, how does Google make money?
They also sell a nice intranet searching device, and I forsee customized searches for niche applications. Don't cound them out because they give several services away for free. They've been profitable for a while.
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if you need to search, you can press F3 on almost any application or the desktop. Firefox seems to be an exception -- F3 finds text on that page.
ohhh, ok. Then I agree with you (I think). As a webdeveloper, its FAR better for javascript to have control over the entire DOM.
I think if you don't want the browser to have control over the browser, you should write server side code
Are you saying that you can't use another browser because of javascript?
Article IX: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
No, its one gigabyte per library of congress
That's hilarious. Although I'm opposed to all Satan programs that take away our Christmas, I might learn to like this one.
Well, I don't know if it's funny or not, but it was an oversite on my part. Also, the poster who talked about there being 271 million shares and only offering 19 million is right on the money.
I .... was... wrong. (yes, it's very hard to say)
On the flip side.... Microsoft could spend their hordes of cash, and get 51% ownership for $11.781 billion. In all actuality, seems a decent price for them to flat buy google.
Well I don't think Microsoft has ever denied it --- but they do what they do. They hired the then head of Borland's Delphi devision, and molded Delphi, C++, and Java. And I think it put together an excellent language, platform independence
Has anyone used either in a tech-support area? We write windows desktop software, and I'd like to give users the ability to double click on the computer they want to open. Then (here's the tricky part), I want all changes to the computer wiped clean -- no ability for the user to choose to save the changes.
Anyone created something like that using this (or other) products?
Well all that might be true (about the MSI), but with .NET you can have an installation that is no more than x-copy. You just copy over the directory structute, and there's no registry changes or dll registration. (once the .NET is installed)
There are exceptions, but if you design it that way, it really will work that way.
The .NET runtime works on Windows 95 -> XP. So unless you meant Windows 3.1....
Also, this would probably run under linux for mono
Lahey has a Fortan for .NET Compiler
I think this is what you meant by F#, right? Fortrant.NET wasn't written by microsoft, they just used the specs to write to IL (or so I think).
Actually, there was a lot of trajectory -- in perfect games the fielders are as much to congratulate as the pitcher. There are 27 outs in a game if you pitch the 9th inning. He did not have 27 strike outs; there was a majority of outs made by the batters hitting the ball
http://www.paypalsucks.com/
According to PayPal accepting their ToS (Terms of Service) in effect means you waive your rights to credit card consumer protection laws, and that you may not issue a chargeback for unauthorized use of your credit card and PayPal account. Is this legal? We don't know. But it's how Paypal operates.
I would say Microsoft's profits in the UK are in the order of serveral billion dollars.
But it has to be future profits. and there are both a hard cost of selling that $100 per pc (manuals, cd, etc) and then other costs, such as:
I don't see them pulling out, but I don't think its an open and shut case either. They can come up with a new product line and claim its a competitor to Windows and then start this decade-long charade all over again
Now we are being told to accept that the EU now decides how US companies do business WITH ONE ANOTHER. Getting a little too big for their britches.
Hey, I hate Europe as much as the next necent human being, but they're not telling microsoft how to sell their product in America / Lagos / Indonesia / insert_random_place_here. They're saying, if you're going to sell in Europe, you will follow europe's rules.
Because europeans would simply pirate their software
Even so, they are still better off than paying a billion dollar fine. This conclusion is based on the assumption that the profits for the Windows Product Line being sold in Europe is less than one billion US dollars.
Asking me if I support murder is like asking me why I want grandmothers to die when I say social security should be abolished.
Our government was not formed to prevent murders, or famine, or disease. The local authorities do not prevent murders, they punish them. As for famine and disease, private enterprise can handle them far better than the public.
Education is handled on the State/Local level, or at least, should be. The most advanced and best healthcare is available to every person in the US -- FREE Healthcare is not. As for social security and pensions -- those are investments, and the government has no right telling you that you have to save for retirement.
The Great Society is a socialist state. We need less government, less welfare, less projects, less help. The government does not exist to help people. It exists to protect people. But protection, in my opinion, does not mean protection from the realities of life.
That might be a joke, but if you've got standard machines, then you should have the programs written down, and if you don't, then that's either:
and yes, microsoft's fault too...
I think that's a pretty expansive definition of SPAM. Does everything annoying become SPAM? I see popups as advertising (and something that mozilla effectively killed for me), and SPAM as fraud.
I don't love microsoft, but I think this article makes several claims without backing them up or offering any explanation as to their merits. Such as:
And "You can write a program in C# or Visual Basic.NET." while factually accurate, ignores Delphi.NET, C++ managed code using the CRL, and other implementations of the CRL (COBOL, etc).
I think the basic premise of the article, where if someone is using your objects it is obviously a bad thing/security breach, is flawed. If you need to secure your objects, SECURE them! Seal them, see who is calling you, etc.
Lastly, As shown by previous posts, Obfuscation is not the end-all panacea to security. In my opinion, it's barely a detour. Otherwise, Open Source literally could not be secure.
They also sell a nice intranet searching device, and I forsee customized searches for niche applications. Don't cound them out because they give several services away for free. They've been profitable for a while.