Don't get me wrong, you're entitled to use whatever OS you want for whatever reasons you want. I don't have any issues whatsoever with people who *choose* to use Windows. I do have issues with *forcing* people to use Windows -or- Linux for that matter. My exception to your post was not that your switched but that some of the agreements for switching you made didn't apply anymore. As for the Roblimo article, agreed, it's hard to take it seriously, I sure hope he didn't intend for it to be taken seriously.
Well, GnomeMeeting works with Netmeeting quite nicely, StarOffice is just as good if not superior to Office, and Mozilla renders pages faster than IE. Things have changed a bit since November 2002. The one thing I will give you is that XP does have more extensive hardware support but that's easily overcome by doing a little homework before buying any periphs. I don't know about XP having a "superior experience" to Linux, it's all about what you do with your OS, but it's certainly a different experience.
JavaScript isn't evil, but FrontPage jockeys who use it to create a non-standard web pages are going straight to hell, do not pass Go, do not collect $200.
Hell, I don't know any pages that don't work fine in Mozilla (but do in IE)
The only time I ever problems with Moz is when the page authors use JavaScript trickery to handle things differently between IE and NS/Moz. Much as I used to like JavaScript, I now firmly believe that it's an Evil (tm) technology
Well, it's primarily due to a group of individuals I dealt with there over a period of time between 1992 and 1994. We didn't have what you'd call a great working relationship. It's probably unfair to pigeon hole the whole company based on the people I dealt with, I can't even remember their names, but they left me with one hell of an unfavorable impression.
I've been using JFS exclusively for about a year. Performance is good but more importantly startup times from hard resets are great and I've yet to lose a JFS partition (knocks on wood). The only negative I can think of is that SCO, in it's delusional state, seems to think they own JFS.
I reluctantly agree with you here, my distaste for SCO is unequaled in my long and distinguished disgust of certain tech companies in my lifetime. Here's my top 5 most tech companies ever:
1. SCO
2. MS
3. IBM
4. Compaq
5. NEC
It's ironic that IBM which I used to hate pretty vehemently has managed to work it's way back into my good books over the course of a decade. It would take a minor -no- major miracle for SCO to do the same now. Regardless, I'll be a much less hately person come April of 2005 when SCO finally gets what's coming to them.
Right. It doesn't mean I like the Eolas patent or the state of patent system (I don't) but MS's two-faced approach on this subject needs to be shown for what it is.
What's funny to me is how MS is all about IP IP IP when this SCO Linux thing is being discussed but as soon as they're on the receiving end of the IP theft finger it's a whole different ball game. MS is without a doubt the biggest bunch of hypocrites on the planet.
The two big ones for me are ACPI/APIC and IDE burner support. There are some other lesser features like UML and the new scheduler but most of these have equivalent patches for 2.4. APIC has been a significant problem ever since the > 2.4.18 releases, I pretty much have to boot noapic for now. I'm just waiting for the SuSE 9.0 Pro which I've preordered to get here and then I'm going straight for the 2.6 setup. Hopefully it'll be out of the box ready for 2.6 rather than the hack job (many things stopped working) I had to do to get 2.6 up on a SuSE 8.2 install.
Mozilla doesn't have any parts of it written in Java, I think you're thinking of XUL. Apart from that, I like the idea of OpenOffice integrating Java even more tightly. Once thing I'd like to see OO support is Java based macros rather than that basic-like crap that's in there right now.
I'll readily admit that setting Linux up can be difficult. However, once Linux is set up, it's very very difficult to break that setup. Contrast this to Windows where setups are relatively easier but they routinely break due to OS patches and DLL conflicts. If you have to redo a setup 6 times over the course of a year, your maintenance advantage over Linux is long gone. That doesn't mean there isn't room for Linux distros to improve, in fact there's plenty of room for improvement.
As for Linux being out of the woods, you're right. I definitely see pricing structures being affected. In the not too distant future I can see $50 full boxed versions of Windows with something like 5 host runtimes. At this price point, the Linux cost advantage would be eroded to such an extent that it would really be a non-factor. The big question is how Microsoft would make up for the $8B/year revenue shortfall. Conceivably, they could double the price of their Office and tools suites up to make up the difference. It's going to get interesting by 2010.
Makes you wonder why they don't. It MUST be cheaper to master a single DVD-ROM than 3 CD-ROMs, like for NWN. Only thing I can think of is people who don't have DVD-ROMs but that has to be a a minority of the game buying public by now. I'm actually curious if ANY games have been released on DVD-ROM. Hmmmmm.
Agreed... I seems some people have either forgotten or never lived through the DOS gaming era. We used to have to have to "boot" into games many moons ago (circa 1989). This sucked royally and I really don't want to see it come back. Besides, even if it started to happen, you can bet MS would be right there with "BootCD.NET" before any kind of Linux momentum ramped up.
That's not a perfect analogy, Transgaming forked their Wine tree when Wine was still under the X11 license. There was a pretty big fuss when Wine moved under the LGPL. Transgaming still releases some of their code under an X11 license project named Rewind. Forgetting about all that for a minute, Transgaming still submits patches to the Wine moderators so you have to wonder if they're being 100% honest about not using the now off limits LGPL Wine sources.
The problem is that it's out of SCOs hands now. SCO can drop their suit but that would not cause an immediate drop of IBM's countersuits. SCO's going to court whether they like it or not unless they can convince IBM to drop their suits. It's ironic as hell since at first, SCO wanted to make an example out of IBM but now it looks like IBM is going to make an example out of SCO.
Believe me, I don't use those because I want to, it's because I have too, and changing them is out of my control. The Nortel VPN piece is a hardware solution and the WebEx thing is a remote conference server.
This is going to sound ignorant but I didn't think that 2.4 could be run in UML on a 2.6 kernel. Now that I've been educated, I'm definitely going to give it a go!
You can cut-and-paste objects between the OpenOffice apps, no problem. There's no way to do that outside of OO since there's no unified object model like OLE in X. OO implements it's own cut-and-paste internally. Although this falls outside the realm of Linux, I wonder if the topic of adding an extension to X cut-and-paste for objects has ever been looked into. This should be pretty straightforward for images but without a object embedding subsystem, I don't see how it cold work for non-static objects in X. The easiest target is probably to look to implementing it at the desktop level using the existing object models in the KDE and GNOME subsystems. This would leave a freakin tricky gap of getting the same functionality to work between applications using different toolkits though. Yeah well, long way of saying don't look for this in Linux or in X, look towards the KDE and/or GNOME devs.
I'm anxious to move to 2.6 but I have to wait for Netlock (VPN) and Netraverse (Win98 -> Webex) to release 2.6.0 patches for their wares. I've pleaded for beta, alpha whatever patches and consistently get the "it's not production so take off" line. I'll be all over those two like stink on a dog the day 2.6.0 goes stable.
I suppose they'll have uniprocessor version which runs faster?
I'm trying not to read too much into this benchmark. The new kernel preemption in 2.6 will make Linux "feel" faster even though it may be slower given a long running continuous task to chew on.
To counter balance that, I'm assuming that the focus right now is on stability rather than optimization. I'd hope that any performance gap with the 2.4 series would be closed shortly after the 2.6.0 release. What was the situtation like between 2.2 and 2.4?
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c/your switched/you switched
c/agreements/arguements
Don't get me wrong, you're entitled to use whatever OS you want for whatever reasons you want. I don't have any issues whatsoever with people who *choose* to use Windows. I do have issues with *forcing* people to use Windows -or- Linux for that matter. My exception to your post was not that your switched but that some of the agreements for switching you made didn't apply anymore. As for the Roblimo article, agreed, it's hard to take it seriously, I sure hope he didn't intend for it to be taken seriously.
Well, GnomeMeeting works with Netmeeting quite nicely, StarOffice is just as good if not superior to Office, and Mozilla renders pages faster than IE. Things have changed a bit since November 2002. The one thing I will give you is that XP does have more extensive hardware support but that's easily overcome by doing a little homework before buying any periphs. I don't know about XP having a "superior experience" to Linux, it's all about what you do with your OS, but it's certainly a different experience.
That's similar to a pet peeve of mine, sites that allow NS 4 and block you in NS 6. Excuse me??? What the hell is that all about.
Okay, okay, let me try that again:
JavaScript isn't evil, but FrontPage jockeys who use it to create a non-standard web pages are going straight to hell, do not pass Go, do not collect $200.
Hell, I don't know any pages that don't work fine in Mozilla (but do in IE)
The only time I ever problems with Moz is when the page authors use JavaScript trickery to handle things differently between IE and NS/Moz. Much as I used to like JavaScript, I now firmly believe that it's an Evil (tm) technology
Well, it's primarily due to a group of individuals I dealt with there over a period of time between 1992 and 1994. We didn't have what you'd call a great working relationship. It's probably unfair to pigeon hole the whole company based on the people I dealt with, I can't even remember their names, but they left me with one hell of an unfavorable impression.
I've been using JFS exclusively for about a year. Performance is good but more importantly startup times from hard resets are great and I've yet to lose a JFS partition (knocks on wood). The only negative I can think of is that SCO, in it's delusional state, seems to think they own JFS.
I reluctantly agree with you here, my distaste for SCO is unequaled in my long and distinguished disgust of certain tech companies in my lifetime. Here's my top 5 most tech companies ever:
1. SCO
2. MS
3. IBM
4. Compaq
5. NEC
It's ironic that IBM which I used to hate pretty vehemently has managed to work it's way back into my good books over the course of a decade. It would take a minor -no- major miracle for SCO to do the same now. Regardless, I'll be a much less hately person come April of 2005 when SCO finally gets what's coming to them.
Ummm, that's not how I interpret it. To me they both make a stronger endorsement for JFS.
Right. It doesn't mean I like the Eolas patent or the state of patent system (I don't) but MS's two-faced approach on this subject needs to be shown for what it is.
What's funny to me is how MS is all about IP IP IP when this SCO Linux thing is being discussed but as soon as they're on the receiving end of the IP theft finger it's a whole different ball game. MS is without a doubt the biggest bunch of hypocrites on the planet.
The two big ones for me are ACPI/APIC and IDE burner support. There are some other lesser features like UML and the new scheduler but most of these have equivalent patches for 2.4. APIC has been a significant problem ever since the > 2.4.18 releases, I pretty much have to boot noapic for now. I'm just waiting for the SuSE 9.0 Pro which I've preordered to get here and then I'm going straight for the 2.6 setup. Hopefully it'll be out of the box ready for 2.6 rather than the hack job (many things stopped working) I had to do to get 2.6 up on a SuSE 8.2 install.
Mozilla doesn't have any parts of it written in Java, I think you're thinking of XUL. Apart from that, I like the idea of OpenOffice integrating Java even more tightly. Once thing I'd like to see OO support is Java based macros rather than that basic-like crap that's in there right now.
I'll readily admit that setting Linux up can be difficult. However, once Linux is set up, it's very very difficult to break that setup. Contrast this to Windows where setups are relatively easier but they routinely break due to OS patches and DLL conflicts. If you have to redo a setup 6 times over the course of a year, your maintenance advantage over Linux is long gone. That doesn't mean there isn't room for Linux distros to improve, in fact there's plenty of room for improvement.
As for Linux being out of the woods, you're right. I definitely see pricing structures being affected. In the not too distant future I can see $50 full boxed versions of Windows with something like 5 host runtimes. At this price point, the Linux cost advantage would be eroded to such an extent that it would really be a non-factor. The big question is how Microsoft would make up for the $8B/year revenue shortfall. Conceivably, they could double the price of their Office and tools suites up to make up the difference. It's going to get interesting by 2010.
Yeah but technically you'd be talking about analog, not digital so it's not really working around the DRM.
Makes you wonder why they don't. It MUST be cheaper to master a single DVD-ROM than 3 CD-ROMs, like for NWN. Only thing I can think of is people who don't have DVD-ROMs but that has to be a a minority of the game buying public by now. I'm actually curious if ANY games have been released on DVD-ROM. Hmmmmm.
Agreed ... I seems some people have either forgotten or never lived through the DOS gaming era. We used to have to have to "boot" into games many moons ago (circa 1989). This sucked royally and I really don't want to see it come back. Besides, even if it started to happen, you can bet MS would be right there with "BootCD.NET" before any kind of Linux momentum ramped up.
That's not a perfect analogy, Transgaming forked their Wine tree when Wine was still under the X11 license. There was a pretty big fuss when Wine moved under the LGPL. Transgaming still releases some of their code under an X11 license project named Rewind. Forgetting about all that for a minute, Transgaming still submits patches to the Wine moderators so you have to wonder if they're being 100% honest about not using the now off limits LGPL Wine sources.
The problem is that it's out of SCOs hands now. SCO can drop their suit but that would not cause an immediate drop of IBM's countersuits. SCO's going to court whether they like it or not unless they can convince IBM to drop their suits. It's ironic as hell since at first, SCO wanted to make an example out of IBM but now it looks like IBM is going to make an example out of SCO.
Believe me, I don't use those because I want to, it's because I have too, and changing them is out of my control. The Nortel VPN piece is a hardware solution and the WebEx thing is a remote conference server.
This is going to sound ignorant but I didn't think that 2.4 could be run in UML on a 2.6 kernel. Now that I've been educated, I'm definitely going to give it a go!
You can cut-and-paste objects between the OpenOffice apps, no problem. There's no way to do that outside of OO since there's no unified object model like OLE in X. OO implements it's own cut-and-paste internally. Although this falls outside the realm of Linux, I wonder if the topic of adding an extension to X cut-and-paste for objects has ever been looked into. This should be pretty straightforward for images but without a object embedding subsystem, I don't see how it cold work for non-static objects in X. The easiest target is probably to look to implementing it at the desktop level using the existing object models in the KDE and GNOME subsystems. This would leave a freakin tricky gap of getting the same functionality to work between applications using different toolkits though. Yeah well, long way of saying don't look for this in Linux or in X, look towards the KDE and/or GNOME devs.
I'm anxious to move to 2.6 but I have to wait for Netlock (VPN) and Netraverse (Win98 -> Webex) to release 2.6.0 patches for their wares. I've pleaded for beta, alpha whatever patches and consistently get the "it's not production so take off" line. I'll be all over those two like stink on a dog the day 2.6.0 goes stable.
I suppose they'll have uniprocessor version which runs faster?
I'm trying not to read too much into this benchmark. The new kernel preemption in 2.6 will make Linux "feel" faster even though it may be slower given a long running continuous task to chew on.
To counter balance that, I'm assuming that the focus right now is on stability rather than optimization. I'd hope that any performance gap with the 2.4 series would be closed shortly after the 2.6.0 release. What was the situtation like between 2.2 and 2.4?
Yeah it's cool but holy crap at $1245 for the cheapest one it's not THAT cool!!! I guess they're not really targeting the hobbiest with this though.