Ok, so, we've known for awhile that our landline infrastructure really doesn't make sense for data. I believe we have some of the oldest phone infrastructure still in use on earth.
...and I understand what an endeavor it is to lay new infrastructure. That said, I don't think the answer is DSL. To fix long local loops means more COs and a lot of rewiring. If you've got to do that, why not lay fiber and be done with it?
According to one article, on average people consume 42 pounds of bacon a year. I figure a good freezer in the garage should hold enough for 3 or 4 years. Time to start stocking up.
> Where you or I may be OK paying extra for a bulb that lasts twenty years, perhaps the poor you're talking about, the ones that do count pennies, will be fucked at the register when they can't replace something that used to be less than a buck.
That's a point you'll never get across to the people who stood in line to trade their 4s for a 5.
Personally, I'm a leeeetle worried about mercury in our landfill, eventually getting into the water supply, because I don't think there's a chance in hell that the great unwashed public will dispose of CFLs properly. That's what an externality is.
Yeah, I know, "a cfl doesn't have any more mercury than a thermometer". According to energystar.gov, over a quarter million are bought every year in the US alone. Thassa lotta thermometers. And you know that the majority of them are the cheapest ones available, which don't last as long as the good ones. Because most people tend to go for price over performance, especially for things they are required by the government to buy. And you know that most people will throw them in the trash when they burn out. Because most people don't understand, or don't care about, the ramifications. I suspect we're going to be experiencing a significant externality in the next few years. I wouldn't be surprised at all if future generations don't look back and wonder what were we thinking?
All electric heaters are 100% efficient. Now, sometimes, some of the energy gets (temporarily) stuck as visible light, or sound or something else, but it all, eventually ends up as heat. It's just as efficient to heat your house with incandescent light bulbs (or even compact florescent light bulbs) as traditional baseboard heaters -- as long as you keep your curtains shut.
Now you tell me. I replaced all my incandescents with CFLs years ago. I heat my house with a wood stove. And I have been asked, would I chop down trees if they screamed? Yes, if I were cold enough.
I'm actually depending on the ban on incandescents excluding incandescents for *lighting* in industrial applications. I'm already using 100 watt outdoor floods from an industrial supplier because consumer 100 watt indoor floods are getting so hard to find.
Yes, but the CFLs that can be had for under $5, suck. We have this discussion here every time the topic comes up. "CFLs are so much better" "but they're expensive" "No they're not, you can get them at costco for less than $5" "but the cheap ones don't last any longer than incandescents" "well that's your fault for buying the cheap ones. The premium ones are great" "but the premium ones are expensive". Lather, rinse, repeat.
I see your problem.
You're over-thinking things.
You're supposed to just STFU, not question your betters, and accept it and feel good about "saving the planet". The rocket-surgery types in government have scientifically determined what is best for you.
Why do you hate America and the Earth?
You're absolutely right. I'm so ashamed.
But what about the environmental mercury poisoning in China... ok I'll shut up now. Obviously I just don't get it.
Yes, but the CFLs that can be had for under $5, suck. We have this discussion here every time the topic comes up. "CFLs are so much better" "but they're expensive" "No they're not, you can get them at costco for less than $5" "but the cheap ones don't last any longer than incandescents" "well that's your fault for buying the cheap ones. The premium ones are great" "but the premium ones are expensive". Lather, rinse, repeat.
...but you should be thankful that he's driving the technology for you by being an early adopter. I agree that LEDs don't pencil out yet, but perhaps some day they will.
On the other hand, by the time they are affordable, they maybe made so cheaply that they don't last any longer than incandescents.
In all fairness, they *used* to last for years. I was an early adopter, and of the four I bought in the nineties, two are still working today. But the blister pack 12-count CFLs at Costco, which is where regular people buy them, don't last any longer than incandescents. Value engineering at its best.
How does a targetted email from public info instantly transform into a "government list". You really think there's a secret gay list that your names are on now? Is Santa checking it twice?
Ok, that was funny. But... the meaning I'm getting from his response is that (a) people respond to an online petition, and (b) the government then uses the compiled list of emails for targeted spam. How is that *not* a government list? It's the government... they have a list... it's a government list. Quod erat demonstratum.
I get penis enlargment emails all the time. I don't wonder "How did he know I have a small dick?"
> Not only they don't take you seriously, they also harvest your email address and put it in the SPAM list.
I'd make the argument that they *do* take you seriously, (IE participating in a mailing list gathering scheme, which is important to them) just not in the way you had hoped (IE, actually interested in your opinion).
Ok. And he can do that because he's Woz. This appears to fly in the face of "I’m not going to pull strings to get them to do something special for me".
So how is nationalizing broadband access *not* a monopoly? What does he think, the government is going to provide stellar customer service? Has he tried calling a government agency lately?
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For an increased cost of roughly .05%, the pilot gets to breathe. Seems like money well spent.
This will be a faster way to get pwned than connecting an unpatched Windows box directly to the raw internet.
"These are your search results for naughty nurses in armadillo boots. How will you be pwned today?"
Don't you mean the interface formally known as Metro?
Right. Which is written as an incomprehensible collection of primary colored squares.
Microsoft would be a good name for a microfiber cloth company, lol
Perhaps, some day that's all they will be known for.
Ok, so, we've known for awhile that our landline infrastructure really doesn't make sense for data. I believe we have some of the oldest phone infrastructure still in use on earth.
Dr Seuss's ABCs. How is it that you do not know this? I can recite most of the book from memory.
> Stacking. You can do this at home with a little scope and a CCD. Obviously this is an art requiring extensive signal processing expertise.
I'm pretty sure Photoshop will stack images for you mostly automatically.
People still use DSL?
> W..w..W - Willy Waterloo washes Warren Wiggins who is washing Waldo Woo.
Awww. I used to read that to my daughter. She's too old to read to now. Camel on the ceiling! C C C. Now I'm depressed.
No wonder americans are fat and have cardiac problems.
According to one article, on average people consume 42 pounds of bacon a year. I figure a good freezer in the garage should hold enough for 3 or 4 years. Time to start stocking up.
> Where you or I may be OK paying extra for a bulb that lasts twenty years, perhaps the poor you're talking about, the ones that do count pennies, will be fucked at the register when they can't replace something that used to be less than a buck.
That's a point you'll never get across to the people who stood in line to trade their 4s for a 5.
> Do you know what an externality is?
Oh oh oh! I do! I do! Pick me!
Personally, I'm a leeeetle worried about mercury in our landfill, eventually getting into the water supply, because I don't think there's a chance in hell that the great unwashed public will dispose of CFLs properly. That's what an externality is.
Yeah, I know, "a cfl doesn't have any more mercury than a thermometer". According to energystar.gov, over a quarter million are bought every year in the US alone. Thassa lotta thermometers. And you know that the majority of them are the cheapest ones available, which don't last as long as the good ones. Because most people tend to go for price over performance, especially for things they are required by the government to buy. And you know that most people will throw them in the trash when they burn out. Because most people don't understand, or don't care about, the ramifications. I suspect we're going to be experiencing a significant externality in the next few years. I wouldn't be surprised at all if future generations don't look back and wonder what were we thinking?
All electric heaters are 100% efficient. Now, sometimes, some of the energy gets (temporarily) stuck as visible light, or sound or something else, but it all, eventually ends up as heat. It's just as efficient to heat your house with incandescent light bulbs (or even compact florescent light bulbs) as traditional baseboard heaters -- as long as you keep your curtains shut.
Now you tell me. I replaced all my incandescents with CFLs years ago. I heat my house with a wood stove. And I have been asked, would I chop down trees if they screamed? Yes, if I were cold enough.
I'm actually depending on the ban on incandescents excluding incandescents for *lighting* in industrial applications. I'm already using 100 watt outdoor floods from an industrial supplier because consumer 100 watt indoor floods are getting so hard to find.
(Life finds a way.)
I see your problem.
You're over-thinking things.
You're supposed to just STFU, not question your betters, and accept it and feel good about "saving the planet". The rocket-surgery types in government have scientifically determined what is best for you.
Why do you hate America and the Earth?
You're absolutely right. I'm so ashamed.
But what about the environmental mercury poisoning in China... ok I'll shut up now. Obviously I just don't get it.
Tissue has rights too!
> CFLs can be had for under $5.
Yes, but the CFLs that can be had for under $5, suck. We have this discussion here every time the topic comes up. "CFLs are so much better" "but they're expensive" "No they're not, you can get them at costco for less than $5" "but the cheap ones don't last any longer than incandescents" "well that's your fault for buying the cheap ones. The premium ones are great" "but the premium ones are expensive". Lather, rinse, repeat.
On the other hand, by the time they are affordable, they maybe made so cheaply that they don't last any longer than incandescents.
In all fairness, they *used* to last for years. I was an early adopter, and of the four I bought in the nineties, two are still working today. But the blister pack 12-count CFLs at Costco, which is where regular people buy them, don't last any longer than incandescents. Value engineering at its best.
How does a targetted email from public info instantly transform into a "government list". You really think there's a secret gay list that your names are on now? Is Santa checking it twice?
Ok, that was funny. But... the meaning I'm getting from his response is that (a) people respond to an online petition, and (b) the government then uses the compiled list of emails for targeted spam. How is that *not* a government list? It's the government... they have a list... it's a government list. Quod erat demonstratum.
I get penis enlargment emails all the time. I don't wonder "How did he know I have a small dick?"
Maybe he's reading your slashdot posts.
> Not only they don't take you seriously, they also harvest your email address and put it in the SPAM list.
I'd make the argument that they *do* take you seriously, (IE participating in a mailing list gathering scheme, which is important to them) just not in the way you had hoped (IE, actually interested in your opinion).
Ok. And he can do that because he's Woz. This appears to fly in the face of "I’m not going to pull strings to get them to do something special for me".
So how is nationalizing broadband access *not* a monopoly? What does he think, the government is going to provide stellar customer service? Has he tried calling a government agency lately?
Sadly, the younger members here won't get the references. Good try, though.