> It should be noted that no updates will go out to regular users until they have been vetted through several rings of testing,
Yeah, but they always say that. In fact, if there weren't words to that effect documented somewhere, someone at Microsoft would probably lose their job.
If I was running 8 or 8.1 and could not conveniently or inexpensively go back to 7, then I'd upgrade the machine to 10. Or put Linux on it, maybe, depending on what I was using it for.
I have a copy of 8, upgraded a win7 laptop to it, fought with it for a month, upgraded to 8.1, fought with that awhile longer, and ended up restoring back to Win7. And that's where it sits now. And my copy of Windows 8 sits on the shelf. Had I bought the laptop with 8 already on it, yeah, I'd move to 10. 8 is such a dog that it would be worth time and energy to work through the teething problems with a 10 upgrade.
On the other hand, a stable system running Windows 7, on which I do actual work, yeah, that's not going to get upgraded to 10 anytime soon. More than anything else, there's no *reason* to do so.
...you don't own an xbox (or a surface for that matter) and have absolutely no intention of getting one? How does that change Valve's position on the Steam machine?
Given that even numbers suck, I am sure they will be skipping odd numbers from now on.
I'll stick with Win 7
As will I. They'll need to pry Win 7 from my cold dead fingers. I read a few reviews on 10 yesterday, and the general consensus is that it's almost as good as 7, (better in some parts, worse in others) if you replace that hybrid start menu thingy with Classic Shell and get used to where they've moved things. Yeah. No.
Well, seeing how its an extension of Windows 7/8 and there is nothing missing that is in 7 really. Although if new interfaces bother you, it could be a reason to stick with Win3.1
You need to read reviews from professionals, not friends on Facebook;)
See, this is the real problem. Back in the 3.1 days, we were on the steep end of the curve, and there were things that really needed to be added, changed and fixed. Now we're up on the flat end of the curve, and there really isn't a lot that needs to be improved, assuming that we're still using a keyboard and a mouse and the peripherals haven't changed substantially.
So people went to 95 because the ideas (not necessarily the implementation) really were needed, and to 98SE because 95 kinda sucked, and 2000 because it was stable, and xp for things that 2000 didn't support, and 7 because its 64 bit version was a lot more mature and stable than xp's 64 bit version. There's no *reason* to go to 10, and so no reason for me to muck with live tiles on the start menu and figure out which admin applets are still in control panel and which have been moved elsewhere. It's just not necessary.
We need to remember, Windows is not the application. The applications are the applications. Windows just runs them.
Given that even numbers suck, I am sure they will be skipping odd numbers from now on.
I'll stick with Win 7
As will I. They'll need to pry Win 7 from my cold dead fingers. I read a few reviews on 10 yesterday, and the general consensus is that it's almost as good as 7, (better in some parts, worse in others) if you replace that hybrid start menu thingy with Classic Shell and get used to where they've moved things. Yeah. No.
Back in the seventies, working for a military contractor, we built microwave communications and countermeasures equipment using GaAs devices. Later, working for the cell phone industry in the early nineties, I seem to remember that at least some manufacturers were switching to GaAs-based radios in cell phones. It's my impression that even today they're used often for high frequency devices. Seems like the only news here is the improved method of manufacture, as the technology has been around for decades.
I will never allow any software that tries to take control of MY machine away from ME. If Windows 10 doesn't let me configure when I update, then I'm not updating to Windows 10... even if Microsoft pays me.
I thought I read the other day that this was one of the issues M$ backtracked on. I believe you can now choose not to have updates installed automatically.
This was a show stopped for me also (a single bad update could take out a large section of the computing public? Who thought this was a good idea?) but was not the only reason for not adopting. The main reason is that I'm tired of my machine, the one I use to perform work for which I get paid, being a test bed for whatever Microsoft thinks is this year's good idea. So no. I may look at 10 in a year or so, after the inevitable early thrashing has died down.
Oh goodie, another standard keyboard layout. Because getting rid of the "esc" key and putting an additional key in the bottom row worked so well for DEC.
But getting used to yet another keyboard layout... I'll leave that to the keyboard experimenters. I have actual work to do.
What I want is all video, sound, script playing in all tabs to be always suspended, except when I explicitly permit them to operate. Just confining them to a tab is not sufficient, because you can be watching a video in a tab and have the sound cluttered up by one to three commercials auto-running on the same page. (And I'm not talking about pr0n sites -- certain news sites have been especially annoying lately.)
The machines that receive pop cans and bottles and (if you're *very* lucky) print a receipt that you can use to claim the deposit, found extensively at supermarkets in Oregon, *still* boot up with a Windows 98 (not SE) splash screen. They're so unreliable that people consider the deposit as an additional tax and just throw the cans away instead of trying to get their deposit back.
My last two jobs were both still using 3270 terminal emulators to connect to CICS systems. I understand that's still fairly common in both government and industry.
...and many companies, usually in the billing department. There's a couple reasons for this: (a) the code may have been written as long ago as the 1960's, and there may not be anyone *alive* who still knows how it works. (b) A certain three letter acronym famous for having what is probably the most aggressive customer retention teams in the business world.
(but seriously) my company issues smart phones as work phones, so there's no issue with using them. As long as you're not using them for pr0n.
A relative works for a company where IP is a sensitive issue, and the phone they issue him has no camera. Which, as I understand, is becoming harder and harder to find these days.
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> It should be noted that no updates will go out to regular users until they have been vetted through several rings of testing,
Yeah, but they always say that. In fact, if there weren't words to that effect documented somewhere, someone at Microsoft would probably lose their job.
Maybe they finally realized that by far Windows is used to play Solitaire more than anything else.
If I was running 8 or 8.1 and could not conveniently or inexpensively go back to 7, then I'd upgrade the machine to 10. Or put Linux on it, maybe, depending on what I was using it for.
I have a copy of 8, upgraded a win7 laptop to it, fought with it for a month, upgraded to 8.1, fought with that awhile longer, and ended up restoring back to Win7. And that's where it sits now. And my copy of Windows 8 sits on the shelf. Had I bought the laptop with 8 already on it, yeah, I'd move to 10. 8 is such a dog that it would be worth time and energy to work through the teething problems with a 10 upgrade.
On the other hand, a stable system running Windows 7, on which I do actual work, yeah, that's not going to get upgraded to 10 anytime soon. More than anything else, there's no *reason* to do so.
Given that even numbers suck, I am sure they will be skipping odd numbers from now on.
I'll stick with Win 7
As will I. They'll need to pry Win 7 from my cold dead fingers. I read a few reviews on 10 yesterday, and the general consensus is that it's almost as good as 7, (better in some parts, worse in others) if you replace that hybrid start menu thingy with Classic Shell and get used to where they've moved things. Yeah. No.
Well, seeing how its an extension of Windows 7/8 and there is nothing missing that is in 7 really. Although if new interfaces bother you, it could be a reason to stick with Win3.1
You need to read reviews from professionals, not friends on Facebook ;)
See, this is the real problem. Back in the 3.1 days, we were on the steep end of the curve, and there were things that really needed to be added, changed and fixed. Now we're up on the flat end of the curve, and there really isn't a lot that needs to be improved, assuming that we're still using a keyboard and a mouse and the peripherals haven't changed substantially.
So people went to 95 because the ideas (not necessarily the implementation) really were needed, and to 98SE because 95 kinda sucked, and 2000 because it was stable, and xp for things that 2000 didn't support, and 7 because its 64 bit version was a lot more mature and stable than xp's 64 bit version. There's no *reason* to go to 10, and so no reason for me to muck with live tiles on the start menu and figure out which admin applets are still in control panel and which have been moved elsewhere. It's just not necessary.
We need to remember, Windows is not the application. The applications are the applications. Windows just runs them.
Given that even numbers suck, I am sure they will be skipping odd numbers from now on.
I'll stick with Win 7
As will I. They'll need to pry Win 7 from my cold dead fingers. I read a few reviews on 10 yesterday, and the general consensus is that it's almost as good as 7, (better in some parts, worse in others) if you replace that hybrid start menu thingy with Classic Shell and get used to where they've moved things. Yeah. No.
I think "galactically stupid politicians" is my new favorite term.
Back in the seventies, working for a military contractor, we built microwave communications and countermeasures equipment using GaAs devices. Later, working for the cell phone industry in the early nineties, I seem to remember that at least some manufacturers were switching to GaAs-based radios in cell phones. It's my impression that even today they're used often for high frequency devices. Seems like the only news here is the improved method of manufacture, as the technology has been around for decades.
I will never allow any software that tries to take control of MY machine away from ME. If Windows 10 doesn't let me configure when I update, then I'm not updating to Windows 10 ... even if Microsoft pays me.
I thought I read the other day that this was one of the issues M$ backtracked on. I believe you can now choose not to have updates installed automatically.
This was a show stopped for me also (a single bad update could take out a large section of the computing public? Who thought this was a good idea?) but was not the only reason for not adopting. The main reason is that I'm tired of my machine, the one I use to perform work for which I get paid, being a test bed for whatever Microsoft thinks is this year's good idea. So no. I may look at 10 in a year or so, after the inevitable early thrashing has died down.
Oh goodie, another standard keyboard layout. Because getting rid of the "esc" key and putting an additional key in the bottom row worked so well for DEC.
But getting used to yet another keyboard layout... I'll leave that to the keyboard experimenters. I have actual work to do.
Great. Now put Latitude back in Maps where it belongs!
What I want is all video, sound, script playing in all tabs to be always suspended, except when I explicitly permit them to operate. Just confining them to a tab is not sufficient, because you can be watching a video in a tab and have the sound cluttered up by one to three commercials auto-running on the same page. (And I'm not talking about pr0n sites -- certain news sites have been especially annoying lately.)
People still browse the internet with the sound on? That's so... nineties.
He could also tax them to the point where they all leave. Problem solved.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the mayor who has an industrial air conditioner blowing into his limo so it's nice and chilly when he gets in?
Wait... isn't contacting the cops what they're *supposed* to do?
The machines that receive pop cans and bottles and (if you're *very* lucky) print a receipt that you can use to claim the deposit, found extensively at supermarkets in Oregon, *still* boot up with a Windows 98 (not SE) splash screen. They're so unreliable that people consider the deposit as an additional tax and just throw the cans away instead of trying to get their deposit back.
My last two jobs were both still using 3270 terminal emulators to connect to CICS systems. I understand that's still fairly common in both government and industry.
I'd rather just not bring the phone in the first place.
Back when I did this sort of thing, cell phones were only owned by doctors and hedge fund managers.
But that doesn't stop the phone from recording, or disable the camera and microphone. Or wifi (to break into private networks within the cage).
(but seriously) my company issues smart phones as work phones, so there's no issue with using them. As long as you're not using them for pr0n.
A relative works for a company where IP is a sensitive issue, and the phone they issue him has no camera. Which, as I understand, is becoming harder and harder to find these days.
Sure, I'll give you my name and tell you I violated company policy. That can't end badly.