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Google Is Dropping Its Google+ Requirement Across All Products Including YouTube
An anonymous reader writes: After years of plugging Google+ into all of its services, today Google announced that your Google+ profile will no longer be your identity in all its products. The company says it will take a few months for all the changes to happen, but the first product to be uncoupled will be YouTube. Bradley Horowitz, Google's vice president of streams, photos, and sharing, says the changes are a response to user feedback: "We've also heard that it doesn't make sense for your Google+ profile to be your identity in all the other Google products you use."
Who will I complain is evil and destroying the world, if they start doing things that aren't evil?
Horray!
All I can say is it is about fucking time.
I still can't get anything through Google Play Store on my Android 2.3.6 phone until I create a gmail account.
I hadn't heard much of it lately.
putting the 'B' in LGBTQ+
This is good. There are many instances where I would've posted a good play review of something I purchased on there but decided not to because it required me to have a google+ account.
Knowing Google, they will usually abort failed projects. They tried really hard with Google+ but it has failed almost as bad as windows phone so it's about time to abandon it.
So the argument all along has been
I don't want to have the same profile across all my google products but I want to login with the same profile across all the products
Which, to put it bluntly, is fucking retarded.
If you want different profiles, create different accounts. Your identity is your identity, its pretty stupid to use the same account across all the platforms but different names, the only person you're fooling is yourself, for everyone else we can still easily link your various google accounts to the same login, but hey, you go ahead and pretend because you can now use a different alias on youtube that no one can figure out who you are when you go trolling.
So big fucking woop, you don't have to give google the 3 lines it requires for a Google+ profile in one place ... now you're going to do it in EVERY place.
If you're one of the people who think this is good, you really are stupid and need to put your tin foil hat away. Its not even hiding you from anything.
Yes, this post is inflammatory, its supposed to be, its targeted at the trolls who think hiding behind their half assed pseudonym is clever even when logging in with the same email address/account everywhere.
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Obligatory comic here: http://owlturd.com/post/730466...
- David A. Wheeler (see my Secure Programming HOWTO)
What will they do instead?
Is this not a thing here anymore?
I never liked the integration... This kept me from embracing Google+ in the past, as much as I would have liked.
Great. Now put Latitude back in Maps where it belongs!
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
One Facebook to rule them all. At least Google gave it a try. I guess the end Facebook's dominance will have to be a long, slow process of attrition like with MySpace. It has a critical mass of users that cannot be overcome with money or other Web presence, as proven by Google. It may also take the young generation growing through it - most people under 20 do not have much interest in Facebook at all. They have accounts of course, but very few are very active.
Better known as 318230.
Does this mean Google didn't make the money they were expecting to by requiring a Google+ signin, or that they've managed to implement user tracking that they'll make money off of by a different means?
Yesterday I just got my first ex-felon to mysteriously add me to his G+ circles via youtube (Before I blocked him), and now they're gonna uncouple youtube from Google +???
Don't worry, we'll ask you again later.
Now they just need to allow people to change the e-mail address their Google account is associated with, even if it is an @gmail.com account (i.e. allow me to change it from @gmail.com go @my.domain) and I will be happy.
But no, they don't allow that. If a google account is an @gmail.com account, that's not changeable. But if a google account is an @not-gmail.com account, you can change the e-mail account associated.
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Thank-you.
I actually started the process of leaving google because of google+. I get about one email a week from stragglers. I'll shut off gmail real soon now. I'll delete my youtube account then. I'll be out of the google ecosystem! Oh wait, I've got android. Drat!
One problem with Google+ in my opinion was that G+ would be like Facebook if Facebook had perfect information on every one of your habits/actions/locations. When you have to use it to sign in to everything, it approaches the creepy line that a lot of people have.
It's similar to how a lot of discussion forums, etc. encourage or force Facebook logins to post. You'd think that would keep people at bay, but all that vitriolic hatred you see on news forums, etc. is right there next to people's pictures and occupations -- "Joe User - 7th Grade Social Studies teacher at Somewhereville Middle School." I once thought, "No one could be that dumb, posting trash like that as a public figure with their real ID." Sure enough, go look for the person on LinkedIn, there he is with a matching picture, etc. People really have zero knowledge about how social media works, what the companies use the data for, or anything about online privacy.
How will my friends know what I'm listening to?!
/Oh right, I don't have any friends. So no problem!
In the future, I would want to not be isolated from my friends in the Space Station.
Presumably you'll still need a google+ id to log into google+
I'm glad to see this change. I have boycotted the google + entirely since its release and hope to see that i can now vote on (at least) youtube again.
One more thing I'd like to see change (back to the way it was) is for image searches. Currently, I can search for "puppy" and there should be millions of hits, but all I ever (lately) see is maybe 2 pages of images... Why does the image search have such a small limitation of results ?
It means that they no longer need to index and associate your use across platforms because they have already developed the capability to link you personally across all their different platforms through Super Cookies, Data Mining, etc. Google+ is now irrelevant and a good bone to throw to the privacy minding minions who will celebrate it as if it accomplished anything.
JP
I can't believe it... Google is doing something "good" for a change? Has hell frozen over? Whoevers stupid idea it was to spread a user account across multiple products should be beaten until a bloody plup! Security issues much?
I hate Google+
AdBlock Plus and Disconnect do wonders for ending the ads in YouTube.
I refused to comment on YouTube because of the whole G+ thing, now I can go back to commenting on the many interesting YouTube videos I see :)
Quite a while ago, Google made the onerous and 100% unnecessary requirement that reviews of Google Play store apps *required* a Google+ account. I very begrudgingly created a Google+ account which I have everything turned off on because I do like to review apps, but hate everything to do with social media garbage.
If they remove the Google+ requirement for Google Play app reviews, my Google+ account is gone. BTW, does this mean that the Google Play Games service doesn't need a Google+ account (unlikely I guess - I loathe that it defaults to sharing everything to the world about your gaming by default and I always have to turn off the options for each game)?
I boycotted using youtube logged in with g+ accounts.
Interestingly, I find myself without any design to go back to youtube as a logged in user.
My cat's name is fluffy, who am I?
A sales lead for every maker of cat food, cat litter, cat medication, cat toys, and other products targeted at cat owners. Sing it with me: Meow meow meow meow, meow meow meow meow...
I'd like to see a responsibility system put in place. Something like Stackexchange where it is easy to have an account, but you have to earn privileges to post or comment
According to this walkthrough of Stack Exchange, you first earn 10 by improving formatting or grammar in five posts. This gives "participate in meta", allowing you to ask for clarification of a site's scope, and "remove new user restrictions", allowing you to cite sources in questions and answers, provide screenshots in questions and answers if necessary, and answer protected questions. Then you earn 40 more by providing useful answers to a couple questions. This gives "comment everywhere".
In your vision of ResponsibleTube, how would a new user go about earning enough points to comment? Would initial reputation be based on an invite tree (like the field trials of Orkut, Gmail, and Google+), a valid enrollment in higher education (like the field trial of Facebook), a valid subscription to mobile phone service (like Yahoo! and current Gmail), or a months-long waitlist (like Google Contributor)?
Android Market in Android 2 required specifically a Gmail account and gave the "aeris@example.com does not use Gmail. Add Gmail to your Google account" registration for a Google account associated to any other email address. Google Play Store in Android 4 or later allows use of any Google account but requires a Google+ profile in order to leave a review of an app.
Yesterday I just got my first ex-felon to mysteriously add me to his G+ circles via youtube
"Ex-felon" means he's not a felon anymore. He's done his time; he's rehabilitated. Why should society give him what amounts to a life sentence?
Wonder how many people gave G+ an instant and permanent dismissal based on just that one overreach?
It's OK Bender, there's no such thing as 2.
I like commenting on Google Play store apps as well. I cherish my privacy and conviction more, though. It makes me genuinely sad now when I find a great app and want to heap my praise on the pile but I can't because of Google+.
I clicked some stuff in a pretty deceptive box which kept coming up on Youtube about my name, not clearly outling what it was about to do (bind my gmail / google account to youtube)
Problem is, uncoupling it (which I've always been able to do) COMPLETELY hides / "damages" my videos. You can no longer view them, they are bound to the G+ account now, NOT the original account.
If I re-activate G+, bam the videos are back.
This has, I admit, made me post significantly more carefully in youtube comments. That being said, I've also held back on a plethora of youtube comments simply as I don't want even my hobbies known / tracked by others. My privacy is pretty important to me, and having my "real" google identity become my youtube comment identity was definitely an issue.
(Before anyone says it, not all youtube comments are ghastly. I'd say quite a good portion are infact, quite good and informative)
So,.......... will this be a FULL reversal? Pull my G+ account away from YT AND restoring my old YT data / profile / videos / views?
First that G+ enforcement.
Second that you did not really log out, you have to manually click the X to remove that account.
Third that 2-page login, with username and passwort on seperate pages.
I'm no longer using google or any google service.
This should have been done a long time ago. Google pushed Google plus way too hard in order to try and get numbers up. Lot of people never even understood
how they got signed up for Google Plus. Its like joining a social club and not even knowing you did. Having a Google account should give you the option of choosing what Google services you want linked to that account. Not default you to having to sign up for one to access another. Google was just trying to cook the numbers overall to make Google + not look like a failure. Of course it was so bad, it still turned out pretty bad.
... how do i check if i'm on google+ and if i am (i never was intentionally but who knows what i clicked wrong) how can i remove myself from this abomination?
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How will my friends know what I'm listening to?! /Oh right, I don't have any friends. So no problem!
No one has any friends. It generally takes people a long time to realize this to any degree though.
By the way the old comment system never went away, example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhK6zTb2HoY
This 4 year old video went from normal comments to the last few years of "WTF old comments system" like comments by those who somehow figured out how to get around the g+ login nag when clicking on the old comment textbox.
This works because the uploader has a Google Aps for Business account with Google+ disabled.
It always sucked, and I'm always happy when Google fails. Fuck Google and fuck Facebook.
First 1) they introduce feature nobody wants then 2) force everybody to use it, and when everyone's adjusted to it, they 3) remove it or "uncouple it"... often the first step to dropping it altogether.. Boy they do that a lot. Why don't they do more pre-release research instead?
I see slashdot people 'bragging' about being able to research people from their internet trail. I don't believe my internet trail is super easily traced, but I wouldn't mind being proved otherwise. I use the name Wootah on a few internet forums and have the same named Gmail Address. Please post what you find.