Nah. If no-one consumed the products or services or scams that spammers offer, then it would dry up. Then make it an criminal offense to respond to spam.:-)
My Azureus 2.3.0.6 install without extra plugins and not including the Sun Java is 9.4MB. The azureus.exe itself is 725kb,.dlls are 380kb and.jar files over 8MB. Where do they get the 151kb figure from?
Don't flame me if I have my facts wrong here, but I heard somewhere that early Christianity did believe in reincarnation, but that it got suppressed after awhile. And it's the The Church Of The Latterday Saints, or something (again, don't flame me for factual inaccuracy), that believe that Jesus was reborn in North America. Not that I'm trying claim that this "proves" reincarnation, you understand.
Don't worry, you are not flaming. Many people of old had various beliefs differing from christianity. The problem with these pseudo-christian religions is that they overlook historical facts. For example it is historically documented that the risen Christ appeared in the flesh to multitudes over a period of about 40 days after his crucifixion. There were 500 eye-witnesses at one time. He ascended in front of witnesses in bodily form into the sky. He did not die a second time, so logically cannot reincarnate. Jesus Himself also claimed that He would return in the exact same bodily form, another fact the refutes the reincarnated Christ idea.
When you weigh the historical facts between christian religion and pseudo-christian, the evidence is overwhelmingly in support of the biblical view. Here is a good reference if you are interested in the evidence.
The groups that teach a reincarnated christ deviate from true christianity and are based heavily on occult. Regarding Joseph Smith of the Mormons, many of the claims he made about his religion are easily refused by historic evidence and logic. Many were fraud.
Even before Christ, some jews strayed from Judaism into the occult (e.g. the kabbalah). The Christian bible is a collection of Jewish and Christian writings. Of course other opposing religions would not be incorporated into the mainstream. Reincarnation was never mainstream in Judaism or Christianity, therefore it would have been outright rejected as opposed to suppressed like a dirty secret.:-)
And in that, I concede defeat. According to Buddhism, there is no soul, no permanent self. So the age-old question is "if there is no soul, then what gets reincarnated". No clearcut answers are usuallly forthcoming from monks, though.
Apparently there do exist, or did exist, people who could determine the fate of people after they died. Alas, there does not appear a way to determine the veracity of their claims.
Still, that's no reason why any of this should prevent one seeking Nirvana in this life. And since vipaka operates in this life, it is definitely worthwhile developing good karma. No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
That concept actually pre-dates Buddha. I guess that Buddha added the reincarnation to the concept. Although it seems you don't believe in Buddhism in it's purest sense.
I still don't see how quokkapox's reference to karma and buddhism helps a trauma or rape victim in the now. His comment would be very inflamatory and insensitive to such readers. No hope whatsoever in that message.
Your comment does not contradict the principle of karma. Karma is about causes and effects. If an event has a result, then ipso facto it is related.
" In religions that incorporate reincarnation, karma extends through one's present life and all past and future lives as well.
"ref: karma
A little more than simply "cause and effect". How can you cause something to happen in a next life? Can you prove that there is a next life? Nope.
The rotation of the earth perhaps could be the force behind gravity?
BTW, unlike reincarnation, gravity is observable and testable. The concept of karma where people reap what they sow in their next life is not. Reaping what you sow in this life might be realized i.e. smoking all your life might cause cancer. However the idea that you reap from unrelated events via karma is not observable.
Not all Buddhists believe in the karma/reincarnation bit.
You might want to check up on such things before you make yourself look quite so ignorant, and quite so, um, prejudiced.
The OP was proclaiming Nirvana. In Buddhism how exactly is Nirvana reached? Do enlighten me? What exactly is it a release from? Hmmm..... the cycle of death and rebirth perhaps? The scope of my comment wasn't all encompassing, but in reference to the concepts preached by the OP.
BTW, how in this situation is Nirvana going to help a rape victim? This life is screwed, what until the next one?
The OP was making assertions, is it prejudiced to even question these simply because they are a religious world-view? Good grief! I am not convinced about Nirvana and the Buddhist world-view. Lets see some evidences. Show us someone who has reached "Nirvana" and lets interview him/her. Does it even exist? How do you know?
uhh.... dude, what is Nirvana and how does one achieve it?
"It is the ultimate goal of Buddhist practice and implies a release from the cycle of deaths and rebirths" ref: Parinirvana
"When a person who has realized nirvana dies, his death is referred as his parinirvana, his fully passing away, as his life was his last link to the cycle of death and rebirth (samsara), and he will not be reborn again" ref: Nirvana
"The aim of Buddhist practice is to end the cycle of rebirth called samsara (Pli, Sanskrit), by awakening the practitioner to the realization of true reality, the achievement of liberation (nirvana). To achieve this, one should purify and train the mind and act according to the laws of karma, of cause and effect: perform positive actions, and positive results will follow." ref: Buddhism.
What part of "cycle of deaths and rebirths" and "laws of Karma" do you not understand? OP mentioned both Nirvana and Buddhism. In the Buddhist world-view, how does one reach Nirvana exactly?
What a load of crap. Ever met anyone who reached "nirvana"? I think not. Then how do you know it exists? None of your 4 so-called points bear any resemblance to fact.
The whole karma / reincarnation concept is a total crock. Who setup and administers the reincarnation process? Buddhists don't believe in a personal god, but an inpersonal force. However, to orchestrate reincarnation, such a force requires by necessity intelligence and the ability to reason, remember and observe. Said force would need to be omni-present and have a personal interest in justice and human life. Basically what you need for this to actually be real is a personal, ever-present, all-powerful deity..... which buddhists don't believe in. Sheesh!!!
Exodus does NOT teach a literal six day creation in the way you mean, especially seen as the dividing the light from the dark into day and night was one of the creative acts.
"For in six days Jehovah made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore Jehovah blessed the Sabbath day, and sanctified it." - Exodus 20:11
"It is a sign between Me and the sons of Israel forever. For in six days Jehovah made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested, and was refreshed. - Exodus 31:17
Here God was speaking to common people in common language..He was not speaking figuratively. The message was meant to be understood by all. They had approximately 2500 years of 24 hour days up until that point. The average person knew what a "day" ("yom" in Hebrew) was. In the Genesis creation account, every day ended with "And the evening and the morning were the [x] day". Very clear, that is was not a period of many days or millenia. BTW, light was divided from darkness on the very first day.
I say again, the Christian Bible and evolution are incompatible. Evolution has death coming before sin, and the Bible has death entering the world only after the first man sinned. You can try and twist the Genesis and Exodus writings as much as you like but the New Testament is also very clear.
"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin: and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned." - Romans 5:12
"Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses" - Romans 5:14
"For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive." - I Corinthians 15:21-22
I am also not making any statement on "ID". I for one can see how evolution would be used as a driver for Creation as a whole.
Not if you believe the bible though. The bible teaches that death entered the world because of the sin of the first man Adam. Whereas evolution teaches that death has been occuring for billions of years prior to the first man's existance. To the bible believer this is heresy. Additionally, Exodus 20:11 teaches a 6 literal day creation. These two world views are mutually exclusive.
I'm getting sick of the quality of journalism on slashdot
You must be new here. Quality, Journalism, Slashdot. 3 words that do not belong in the same sentence together. Why you even have an expectation of this is beyond me.:-)
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... until they officially discontinue support for them? With the exception being XBox games and keyboard/mice hardware.
Nah. If no-one consumed the products or services or scams that spammers offer, then it would dry up. Then make it an criminal offense to respond to spam. :-)
FTA: Azureus, to be fair, takes up only 151KB
.dlls are 380kb and .jar files over 8MB. Where do they get the 151kb figure from?
My Azureus 2.3.0.6 install without extra plugins and not including the Sun Java is 9.4MB. The azureus.exe itself is 725kb,
When you weigh the historical facts between christian religion and pseudo-christian, the evidence is overwhelmingly in support of the biblical view. Here is a good reference if you are interested in the evidence.
The groups that teach a reincarnated christ deviate from true christianity and are based heavily on occult. Regarding Joseph Smith of the Mormons, many of the claims he made about his religion are easily refused by historic evidence and logic. Many were fraud.
Even before Christ, some jews strayed from Judaism into the occult (e.g. the kabbalah). The Christian bible is a collection of Jewish and Christian writings. Of course other opposing religions would not be incorporated into the mainstream. Reincarnation was never mainstream in Judaism or Christianity, therefore it would have been outright rejected as opposed to suppressed like a dirty secret.
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I still don't see how quokkapox's reference to karma and buddhism helps a trauma or rape victim in the now. His comment would be very inflamatory and insensitive to such readers. No hope whatsoever in that message.
Care to explain this "metaphor" for the less "enlightened"?
BTW, unlike reincarnation, gravity is observable and testable. The concept of karma where people reap what they sow in their next life is not. Reaping what you sow in this life might be realized i.e. smoking all your life might cause cancer. However the idea that you reap from unrelated events via karma is not observable.
...not the spelling, grammar and urls. IMHO. Keep up the good work tho dude. :-)
BTW, how in this situation is Nirvana going to help a rape victim? This life is screwed, what until the next one?
The OP was making assertions, is it prejudiced to even question these simply because they are a religious world-view? Good grief! I am not convinced about Nirvana and the Buddhist world-view. Lets see some evidences. Show us someone who has reached "Nirvana" and lets interview him/her. Does it even exist? How do you know?
"It is the ultimate goal of Buddhist practice and implies a release from the cycle of deaths and rebirths"
ref: Parinirvana
"When a person who has realized nirvana dies, his death is referred as his parinirvana, his fully passing away, as his life was his last link to the cycle of death and rebirth (samsara), and he will not be reborn again"
ref: Nirvana
"The aim of Buddhist practice is to end the cycle of rebirth called samsara (Pli, Sanskrit), by awakening the practitioner to the realization of true reality, the achievement of liberation (nirvana). To achieve this, one should purify and train the mind and act according to the laws of karma, of cause and effect: perform positive actions, and positive results will follow."
ref: Buddhism.
What part of "cycle of deaths and rebirths" and "laws of Karma" do you not understand? OP mentioned both Nirvana and Buddhism. In the Buddhist world-view, how does one reach Nirvana exactly?
What a load of crap. Ever met anyone who reached "nirvana"? I think not. Then how do you know it exists? None of your 4 so-called points bear any resemblance to fact.
The whole karma / reincarnation concept is a total crock. Who setup and administers the reincarnation process? Buddhists don't believe in a personal god, but an inpersonal force. However, to orchestrate reincarnation, such a force requires by necessity intelligence and the ability to reason, remember and observe. Said force would need to be omni-present and have a personal interest in justice and human life. Basically what you need for this to actually be real is a personal, ever-present, all-powerful deity..... which buddhists don't believe in. Sheesh!!!
OS-X is the reason for buying a Mac. That and uber-sexy overpriced hardware. :-)
100 gmail accounts, GmailFS installed on your PCs, and highspeed innuh-net! ;-)
Glen Phillips is indeed a freakin' awesome wordsmith! :-)
Excellent post from across the ditch!
The exposure latitude of C-41 film is far better than most dSLRs.
Nikon SLR film cameras come with a 5 year warranty.
"It is a sign between Me and the sons of Israel forever. For in six days Jehovah made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested, and was refreshed. - Exodus 31:17
Here God was speaking to common people in common language.
I say again, the Christian Bible and evolution are incompatible. Evolution has death coming before sin, and the Bible has death entering the world only after the first man sinned. You can try and twist the Genesis and Exodus writings as much as you like but the New Testament is also very clear.
"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin: and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned." - Romans 5:12
"Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses" - Romans 5:14
"For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive." - I Corinthians 15:21-22
Or how about using the geddup noise?