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Robert Fripp to Compose Vista's Soundtrack
brainstem writes "Recently, King Crimson founder, guitar master, and all around eccentric musical genius Robert Fripp spent a few days at the MS Campus recording soundscapes for Vista. Fripp, who has been at the forefront of electronic guitar composition for more than 35 years, first using analog tape delays, then with digital effects. He infused his unique brand of Frippertronics on the MS crowd. The Channel 9 site has posted a 25 minute video, chronicalling the event. Now I guess I finally have a reason to leave the default Windows sounds enabled."
I'll use it for my KDE start sound...
who is fripp
If something exists that does not need a creator (god) then why must the cosmos need one?
do they run linux?
"This is Zombo Com, and welcome to you who have come to Zombo Com" - www.zombo.com
I don't see a point in having a Soundtrack? I turn it off all system sounds anyway because I've heard them way too many times to even count.
of the Redmond King?
What does this button do...
Where gnu/linux people would spend all that money and time on coding applications that work MICROSOFT will spend it on making 'soundscapes' and other kind of marketing things.
No wonder it won't run on anything less than a 1GHz cpu
hmm, imagine hearing the windows startup sound, system beep, intel chime, aim message/buddy door, you've got mail, and various other wacky sounds we easily recognize in technology all in one!!!
Same time roughly when a game music dir was measured in kilobytes not install cd's.
First game to break the trend was I think Tomb Raider wich in a move I will never understand used actually audio tracks on the CD for both music and cutscene sound. Wich on my machine created horrible stuttering as the CD had to switch operating modes.
Oh, sorry, I guess my old grumpy guy who doesn't like the future personality has slipped through again.
YEAH, some unknown idiot gets to load a ton of mp3's in an already bloated OS to make sure yet another few cpu cycles are wasted and used to annoy everyone else in the office because people with funny desktop sounds never heard of headphones.
Sorry that is as positive as I can get.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
You mean with all of the billions Microsoft has in the bank they couldn't get John Williams to compose the score. I think Vista: The Muscial is going to be a flop on the C# scale.
HA HA HA HA!
Guitarists take their little jingles so seriously.
While having actual guitar riffs sounds cool, but as cool as a blaring guitar might sound anything that's not melodic will soon begin to sound very annoying after a few hundred repetitions.
I've gone through a lot of sound schemes, and while the initial concept is cool most of them get really redundant and annoying after awhile. Also, one of the nicest things about KDE is the ability to set the 'theme sounds volume' accordingly, so that at normal they're a dull whisper, and when I turn up to hear my quiet DVD or VOIP conversation my speakers don't blow up at the next exclamation error sound... (hopefully this might be a Vista feature, as well?). Maybe a few nice strums of the guitar for starting or stopping windows will help, but an all-out guitarfest might be a bit overboard.
Then again, some of the music such as the background during the windows install I found very well indeed... it's just the effects that were a bit annoying.
I just lost 25 minutes of my life... can i have them back? What a boring video
This is truly the Lark's Tongue in Bill Gates' ass.
Multiplayer Gaming (defined): Sitting around, discussing single-player games with my friends, at the bar.
...as someone under the age of 40, I'll turn the sounds off, and listen to more of "that electronic racket".
Ballmer to Fripp: If you don't compose in the key C#, perhaps this flying chair will help you to B-flat!
I do not accept czechs.
...considering the Windows 95 startup sound was created by Brian Eno, a one-time frequent collaborator with Fripp.
That they'll spend on this guy and just record the sounds of broken glass! :D
The sea changes color, but the sea does not change.
As long as they don't put out "Vista: The Soundtrack". That would rip a hole in space time... or something equally not good.
gimmick on this one.
Jonathanjk.com
...but has anyone used the Axim? I might get an x51v. Any reactions or suggestions for alternate products, either Windows Mobile-based or Palm?
(It needs Wi-Fi, very preferably integrated. I like the idea of a 640x480 screen. The main reason I'm leaning toward Windows Mobile instead of Palm is because from what I can figure out, if I want to write programs for it, that platform will be far easier. The drawback is I don't know how well or if ActiveSync would work with a 3rd party tool.)
Does anyone remember desktop themes in windows 95? Uhm. This reminds me of those, frankly, crappy desktop themes that came out with windows 95, I believe with Microsoft PLUS (also not that great, and a waste of money).
All they did was slow your computer down, make a lot of noise, and annoy your co-workers when your speakers were turned on.
And to top that off, what I couldn't originally stand about Windows XP, which is why I stuck with Windows 2000 till this last year, was when you pushed the start menu button (a flaw they did get around to fixing) it took forever to load it up. I like instant gratification. I like cause and effect. I want something to happen, at least on my computer, when I tell it to. And desktop themes did not let that happen.
And anything bloated for that matter does not let that happen. I hope Vista doesn't turn out to be Microsoft PLUS Desktop Themes on steroids...
My page.
watching the video, anyone else get flashbacks of the scenes of the future in bill and ted's excellent adventure? i can just see the air guitaring now.
Are the sound files protected by DRM?
w00t
http://www.boltthrower.com/
aahh, that's the stuff
kill hippies, you know it makes sense
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Composed the Windows '95 startup sound. I always get this image of him wearing a sparkly cape thinking hard in front of a modular Moog while staring hard at a PC. The image is accentuated by the long hair and bald patch.
Task Mangler
See above...
Wow. I'd pay $200 for Vista: The Green/Blue Album.
:)
People who think you have to be old to appreciate him should pick up ThrakkAttack.
At any rate, I am sure it will be available on Urge ...
...that they're trying to make it sound like a clunker
Why not just rip the soundtracks from Halo and Halo 2 then slap them into Vista?
... I'm still listening to the Quake sound track on my iPod, it's just great ;-)
This sig is stolen from someone who had a much better idea than I had.
And now Fripp works with Microsoft...
Q E D
Karma: Excellent (My Karma? I wish...:-( )
So the fit is mutual; that being the projected average required duration for the Vista startup chime.
Fripp uses a Powerbook, so he won't have to listen to it.
Fripp, who has been at the forefront of electronic guitar composition for more than 35 years, first using analog tape delays, then with digital effects.
wow, nice composition there brainstem...
The League of Crafty Guitarists is "the performance wing of Guitar Craft", and Guitar Craft is Robert Fripp's guitar school-thingy. So, the circle is complete.
Anyway. Now at least we know that the sounds in Vista will be nice. That's good. I'm a little worried though, that perhaps the Blue Screen of Death will become Red and "One More Red Nightmare" is blasted out your speakers every time an error/BSOD occurs!
What's scarier is the fact that Robert Fripp's soundscape album from 1997 (not his only soundscape album, no) is so aptly titled "The Gates of Paradise"! amazon link
And perhaps the song titles of that album can give us a hint as to how Fripp feels about mr. Gates:
"The Outer Darkness"
"Abandonment to Divine Providence"
"In Fear And Trembling Of The Lord"
"Acceptance"
I mean, since Microsoft/Gates does rule the universe, or at least one might think that Fripp believes so, we here have a possible explanation to why he agreed to make this Vista "soundtrack"/soundscape/whatever... The other possible explanation is obvious: Fripp likes money.
There's nothing too profound behind this sig.
They should use Drive-By Truckers tune "Never Gonna Change"..
"Ain't Never Gonna Change"
Zoid.com
MS sure likes to spend its money where its worth. I can see it now "Hackers exploit newly discovered flaw in SrvSoundScape service on Windows Vista to take over the world"
--gks
...out one ear and in the other!
let me be the first to say... NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gotta change my sig sometime soon.
The perfect sig is a lot like silence, only louder
They're paying this guy how much money to play three friggen notes on a guitar!?!!?! HAHAHAH, any idiot can do that shit. FUCK!
I looked 3 or 4 minutes into the video... honestly, what kind of credentials does this guy have? Here's how to do it: take any up-to-date synthesizer, select a spherical pad sound and press three white keys simultaneously. This will provide you with the basic 'soundscape'. The take a guitar, throw 4 or 5 effects (chorus, delay etc.) at it, all turned up to 100%. Again, play 5 notes in slow progression. Voila - your done, or at least that was what the guy in the video did.
White people go nuts for electric guitar. This is great for Redmond! But for Latinos you need percussion, a piano, and someone shouting Spanish gibberish into a megaphone.
Personally i'd rather they were concentrating on putting some of the features people actually WANT back into Vista, like WinFS, rather than twatting around recording nice guitar riffs for system events! I still feel that Microsoft will never learn to get its priorities right.
"Hey! Unless this is a nude love-in, get the hell off my property!!"
B. Gates: Hello there, Mr. Fripp.
R. Fripp: Please, call me Robert.
B. Gates: Okay, Robert. Call me Bill. I'd like to make you a proposition.
R. Fripp: Sure, Bill, fire away.
B. Gates: I'd like you to make a number of various sounds for our latest OS, and in exchange for less work than it would take for you to make one of your many albums, we will hand you this enormous pile of money. How does that sound?
R. Fripp: That... uh, that actually sounds rather nice.
Speaking as a King Crimson fan of more than 20 years, I'm a bit gutted about this. Apart from anything else, Fripp has shown interesting signs of 'getting it' with regard to copyright and the Pigopolists. See eg. this article on the company he started to buy back his copyrights, and indeed this previous post on a previous Slashdot article.
I love the sound of the creaky chair in that video - would suit as a backdrop to the BSOD ! - now that's blue. Perhaps Microsoft will make it green and blue, with yellow text ?
A slashdotting - you get the stick first and then the carrot !
Yeah, but don't forget that on the other hand, Microsoft saves some money by using a warez version of SoundForge to edit its wave files:m l
http://slashdot.org/articles/04/11/13/0036243.sht
Give it to me! I'll get ten times the notes in there whatever Robert plays.
It's cool and all to have a soundtrack, but what about start-up lyrics? "Wooooo.... Windows has started! Yeahaahhhhhh! owww!" "Come on! break it down!" - and then it blue screens.
READY.
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As someone who disables all Windows sounds, desktop themes, screensavers and other junk the second they get a new computer with Windows on, this is probably going to sound trash but:
:-)
I spent £200 on an operating system so they can waste the money spending god-knows-how-much to get some guitarist I've never heard of to create some Windows theme sounds? Granted, the current Windows sounds have reached a sort of notoriety in that I can tell the version of Windows from 50 feet by it's boot up and clicking sounds but I'd hardly call it a good thing.
All you need is some basic sound effects, not music or anything along those lines, to be able to know what's going on. The Windows start sound does nothing more than tell you that you've now just got to wait another 30 seconds for your taskbar icons to load up, same for the Windows exit sound.
I **KNOW** Windows is shutting down, I clicked the button! I don't need a little tune to play before it can shut down. I know Windows is starting, there's a bluey-green screen with a mouse cursor on it waiting for the damn thing to carry on loading, why do I need a jingle to tell me that?
I'd much rather someone spent £1,000,000 on making the interface more human friendly, or the startup 30 seconds faster than £10 on all this junk. At the very least, replacing all the boot/startup screens with ONE semi-accurate status bar which, when it goes, shows the desktop fully drawn, and fully operational, is something that needs work much more than a friendly jingle.
If I wanted rubbish like this, I'd buy the PLUS pack.
Brilliant, I can picture the scene now. I shut down windows only to be greeted by a 35 minute piece incorporating 13 minutes of silence (interrupted by the occasional triangle, or burst of bassoon) and incorporating works by Holst playe on the mellotron.
I think it would be more appropriate for there to be some King Crimson inspired wallpaper
What is it about using a few MB of Microsoft's bandwidth to download their .WMV file to play in XINE on my Fedora Core 3 laptop that makes me, eh, happy????
Not that I care all that much, but THEY set up some goofy "mms" protocol that makes me download their entire !@#!@ movie before playing it, instead of streaming over HTTP like any other sane person... so I'll download the entire thing before watching 10-20 seconds of their 20 minute video...
I guess they can afford the $0.01 or two this download will cost them.
I have no problem with your religion until you decide it's reason to deprive others of the truth.
Vista will be more interesting if Toyah Wilcox will be there too :-)
So now you'll not only get sued by the BSA for using a copied Windows, but also by the RIAA ?
I prefer this one:
Armydark2.wav
Unfortunately, PETA stepped in and protested.
It's a concept album. Don't you get it, dude?
Or how about using the geddup noise?
This site is becoming "News form Lamers" more and more each day...
I wonder if they will use warezed software to record it again?
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http://slashdot.org/articles/04/11/13/0036243.sht
People capable of making interesting musical statements are unlikely to be MS supporters, why don't Microsoft just use some Wagner?
...but they still make me use this strange piece of software...
So much money spent on chroming up a project, and allowing an experianced musician to be berated by a walking blob of marketing catch phrases and yuppie stupidity, just so I can keep my comptuer making no noise when it starts up. Oh and keep it running gentoo. =)
"My heart is in the work." - Andrew Carnegie
Yes, it's just a gimmick. But, it's a gimmick designed to cooperate with many other gimmicks as a way of keeping a monopoly in power. Sadly, artists like Fripp and Justin Timberlake are being drawn into battles they don't understand, and therefore they don't get to properly choose a side. If only they knew that MS will destroy the industry they love.
...Easy Money.
Did he spend two weeks appeasing the Almighty (evil)?
It will just be Steve Ballmer chanting maniacally "I repeat myself when under stress! I repeat myself when under stress!" over and over until you restart the machine.
When Windows 95 came out, the big joke was, Windows '95 = Mac '84 ... back in 1984, what wasn't produced by Brian Eno?
Actually, I don't have Windows anymore, so Sosumi.aiff will have to do.
-Rob
Biblical fiscal responsibility
I looked her up, and found some pictures. She looks hagged-out. I thought to myself, "She might've been hot about 10 years ago."
Then I found photos on her official site that are dated 1994, and no, she wasn't even hot 13 years ago.
To each his own, I guess.
Robert Fripp is a very talented guitar player, he played a lot with Brian Eno and also with David Bowie during his Berlin period.
While he is technically a very good guitar player he is also somebody that did a lot of technological experimentation. He did invent the concept of frippertronic where you play a few notes of music and loop them in real time, you then continue to add new material to your loop at each new iteration. Because he was using analog tape to do this at first the oldest iteration where fading away while the new material was added on top.
If you are curious I recommend his abum "Soundscapes 2: Blessing of Tears"
Maybe because he is a friend of Brian Eno that already composed some sounds for Windows 95 this is how he was contacted by Microsoft.
Apple should do the same and I would find it more logical if Fripp would work for Apple while Microsoft could just hire Justin Timberlake for his music
In cyberspace nobody knows you're a cat!
This just reeks of the win95/98 (whatever it was) that had the Weezer video for "Buddy Holly" on it.
Should be used for their speech startup sound
He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
21st Century Schizoid Man
Cat's foot iron claw
Neuro-surgeons scream for more
At paranoia's poison door
Twenty first century schizoid man.
Blood rack barbedwire
Politicians' funeral pyre
Innocents raped with napalm fire
Twenty first century schizoid man.
Death seed blind man's greed
Poets' starving children bleed
Nothing he's got he really needs
Twenty first century schizoid man
Whenever you start your computer will this guy get royalty payments? After all, Microsoft support the right of artists to profit from their work via their DRM infrastructure right? Maybe you'll have to buy pre-pay card with 10 boots on. I wonder if you'll get a credit back when you see a RSOD?
Who are all the court jester schmucks in the video standing around doing nothing, do the get to do that all day, why aren't they sitting on the funky red couch, and how much do they get paid?
Download my free songs!
No accounting for taste.
They want to "brand" the experience. It's a little appetizer to fancy up the meal of fish sticks and macaroni and cheese.
I get the feeling they want something along the lines of their "hit", "Air". That's a very pleasant sounding lite-rock ditty that would enhance any pointless experience.
"Now I guess I finally have a reason to leave the default Windows sounds enabled."
Great. Also be certain to keep spellcheck enabled.
That deleting all media files is not part of everyones cleanup after installing Windows?
Professional Politicians are not the solution, they ARE the problem.
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All that fighting with the record companies and you do a deal with the computer devil himself!?!
I am pretty sure that the AHRA actually says "it's still illegal but we agree not to prosecute you". I'll try to find a real reference for that.
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BG: "Alright fella's, it's been a couple of generations and ever since that Damn Internet showed up we've been unable to significantly improve the security of our O/S's. With Vista, this will all change. I'd like to introduce Mr. Fripp who assures me that he'll be able to provide us with several options that will enable Vista to at least SOUND safe & secure, completely reassuring the user that their computing and internet experience is without risks to identity, credit rating, or confidential material. Mr. Fripp, if you please...."
Also put in a cameo on Satriani's "Strange Beautiful Music" on "Sleepwalk". Desert island.
Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
No, he's a personal friend of Steve Ball (who used to work with him), Steve's the guy at Microsoft responsible for the startup sound.
Fripp wasn't the only choice though, apparently they had a half a dozen well known artists competing and Fripp won the competition.
...they could have used "Wipe Out".
...and a nifty hibernate mode as well that saves your system state (probably to the HD) and completely powers everything down.
Ummm, you do realize that hibernation has been a feature of Windows since 98, right? That is unless they've completely overhauled how it's done. Since this is MS we're talking about, I highly doubt that...
Be a real patriot: Question authority. Think for yourself. Formulate your own conclusions.
Room full of MS employees staring at Robert Frip telling him to go ahead and do that "creativity" thing.
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon, Marshal of France - speaking truth to power
Sounds like the soundtrack to whales fucking slowly. No Digg.
Sometimes at night I imagine the darkness is filled with horrible things with too many teeth, like Julia Roberts.
People might have heard Fripp or Crimson music in a Gilette commercial, on The Maxx cartoon on Liquid Television, or in some porn movie that stole the music. (Fripp sued them to get royalties) With regards to the commercial, I know he said something to the effect of "Why not? I use their razors, and people will get to hear something a lot better than the music they ordinarily use in those things. And I can use the money."
As a Fripp fan who will probably end up using Vista at some point I'm cautiously optimistic about this. I'm also skeptical that the little noises an OS makes can have any musical quality whatsoever.
Now before I get modded down, I be to remind whoever might read this that what I am saying is FACT. - bogaboga
If you want to do the same in Linux look up "sleep to RAM" and "sleep to disk".
It's not a complete boot though, you only reload the last state the computer was in. So if your PC is getting cranky (leaky programs and such) then this quick boot method probably won't fix it for you.
BTW, one of the reasons WindowsXP is so quick to boot is that it does things in parallel. You can do this in Linux as well, look up "make boot" for that.
"Vista, I feel for you..."
Modern copyright is theft of culture from everyone and it retards the progress of the useful arts and sciences.
I also have been a King Crimson fan since 1969. Mr. Fripp has developed many interesting guitar sounds and styles over the course of his career.
I doubt that this innovation could be compensated through the music industry. Awarding a Microsoft grant for adding unique sound textures to the new OS is an excellent idea. It gives exposure to Mr. Fripp's work. It helps make up for all the years of touring around Northern Europe in a small van, playing for small but appreciative audiences.
My favorite Fripp sounds are the aforementioned 'Exposure' from 1979, the brilliant screaming twisted lead guitar on David Bowie's 'Fashion' from 1980, King Crimson's 'Frame By Frame' (1981), and 'Darshan' (1990's) with David Sylvain. All available from the Kazaa, the world's music library.
Creative already did this to demonstrate the Voyetra software they included with their sound cards
(Posted to the old batman theme) Nanananananana DRM DRM nanananananananaann DRM DRM.. and so on and so forth..
Is the person responsible for the rockin' theme music to the last Star Trek series. That would be cool. Or at least a soundscape with some vocals: You are using Microsoft Windows, Yay! Is this a happy day? But don't copy stuff 'Cuz crime don't pay.
Except the Hibernate mode in prior versions of Windows does not seem to be as fast/effective as the one described here. Generally, instad of "right back to the desktop," it involved a bit of a wait time. This sounds a bit more like what Apple has done with (at least) OSX.
Eno... I can understand him after going with U2, but Fripp... this is disturbing.
And the name of the secret Microsoft department responsible for choosing Herr Fripp ?
The polishing the turd department.
Vista: More of the same insecure Microsoft bloatware as usual but now with nice eye candy and nice sounds.
And, of course, he is married to that great 80s singer and actress Toyah Willcox. One of her hits could be used to accompany the Vista Blue Screen of Death..
"It's a Mystery...."
Apple hasn't particularly done anything special with their low power/suspend mode (which also worked more or less the same under OS 9). It's just that they can ensure that the hardware supports all the calls and methods they want to use. This leads to a product that works as advertised. This is something that people repeatedly simply do not get when saying they want to use generic hardware to run OS X on. The moment you start using generic hardware that doesn't support everything properly, you end up with a situation like Windows, where different sleep/suspend/hibernation modes work with different results/expectations on different machines.
Be a real patriot: Question authority. Think for yourself. Formulate your own conclusions.
am i the only one who thinks an operating system should simply operate the system?
i must say this is the first time i've heard of an operating system having a "sound track". will amazon soon be offering "Windows: The OST"?
personally i'd rather them spend that money on debugging.
I am going to have to run out and buy a copy of Windeers for the first time since 3.11. Microsoft schur has some gym-dandy marketin' types.
Computer nerds like the worst music
"Fripp, who has been at the forefront of electronic guitar composition for more than 35 years, first using analog tape delays, then with digital effects"
HOLY COW ANALOG TAPE DELAY AND THEN DIGITAL EFFECTS????
MY MIND IS BEING BLOWWNNNNNNNNNNNN AWAY
It sounds like most people on this board don't have a fucking CLUE who Robert Fripp is or what he means to music.
This guy was one of the true PIONEERS of progressive rock back in the late 60s early 70s. And his music still sounds fresh and original today. He's always innovating.
His work with King Crimson is more rock like, but thats not whats going into Vista. These will be his soundscapes.
Soundscapes, and I recommend people go out and buy a cd of them, because they're good (note I said buy a CD. Don't be a fucking pirate), don't really sound like guitar at all. Its AMBIENT music. Think Brian Eno. No rhythm. No Melody. Its to create mood and atmosphere, and Fripp does it very well. These will be perfect for windows, and I'm guessing quite understated.
I can't wait to get Vista.
Frippertronics is _highly_ melodic as well as harmonic, and is more like whirling swaths of inter-related sound than anything you'd recognize as a guitar riff. When he does this stuff in solo live performance it's just amazing. Definitely not guitar hero stuff; more like going centuries into a future where humanity has become calm, meditative and wise, while gazing out across ... um ... wider vistas than anything we now can imagine.
"with their freedom lost all virtue lose" - Milton
So then, Windows XP just works, and with Linux, you have to Google something (which didn't even return anything useful). Where's this supposed ease-of-use that hte Linux are always screaming about? Just make the damn thing boot fast without me having to do anything at all. What's so hard about that?
I don't respond to AC's.
Crash by the Dave Matthews Band?
...have no fracking idea who this guy is, or even more to the point, care?
Why not just bring in Justin Timberlake since he's already signed up for Urge.
(No, I cannot tell you who he is either, I guess I'm just too old or too smart, one of the two)
I highly doubt there will be any harsh guitars or really anything that resembles King Crimson. While Fripp is known for King Crimson, I'm sure MS brought him aboard for his solo efforts in ambient music. He has recently been touring as the opening act for a band called Porcupine Tree. He only does ambient music with guitar loops layered to create a peaceful ambience suited quite well for an OS. If anyone has ever seen Victor Wooten (Bela Fleck) solo, you will see similarities in how they produce the music. I am very excited to hear that an experienced progressive rock musician will be ushering in the next generation of Windows with a modern twist.
...I saw that someone thought it was a waste of money to get Fripp. I guess that shows you that some people have no respect for art. There is a HUGE difference between some hack sitting in a production house cranking out quick riffs and on-hold music and someone who has real talent (like Fripp) making good sounds. Keep in mind that talent != fame. There are some true artists that you will never hear of because they don't have a way for their music to be heard. Fripp, however is a talented guy. So Microsoft did something right with this. System sounds are an essential part of the user experience and people who turn them off only do so because the sounds were poorly produced and are therefore unpleasant, or they don't know any better.
-"...bad old ideas look confusingly fresh when they are packaged as technology" - Jaron Lanier (Digital Maoism on Edge.o
LOL, Zomg dudez! Teh Linux is the easiest. J00 just aint l337 enough for it.
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I do remember one thing.
It took hours and hours,
"Our interests are to see if we can't scale it up to something more exciting," he said.
Makes me wonder who will be next? Pete Sinfield?
A Shadeless room is a brighter room.
Look it up where? If I Google "make boot", all I get are links talking about how to "make boot" disks. I'm really interested, not just trolling. My Linux box takes a couple minutes longer than my Windows box to boot, and I'd love it to be faster.
I am scientifically inaccurate.
I got Weezer in my Windows...
JC
..the majority of the us are going to have to live with these sounds day in and day out for the next several years. Can he really whip something out in a "few days" that won't drive us crazy?
I wouldn't care if Microsoft had Jimmi Hendrix doing their startup sound, let alone Fripp. I have never been able to tolerate any of the Windows startup sounds for more than a few weeks. Every Windows startup sound has an air of grandeur that does not befit an operating system. Every time my computer boots it yells "I AM WONDERFUL" at me, rather than "I am ready" or "welcome", right back from "TA-DAAAAAA" in Windows 3.1. Every time it starts up my OS feels the need to tell me how impressive it is. Every time it starts up, I know that its air of self satisfaction is misplaced. Douglas Adams predicted this.
i ddlewoo', which is too long, slightly sinister, and suggests an air of flakyness, a slightly misplaced attempt to sound impressive. It's certainly not a sound that conveys solidarity or reliability. It suggests that the OS is crap, but we've given it a really impressive boot sound in the hope you won't notice.
Why are Microsoft getting old prog rockers to make their startup sounds? I watched the video and they're all so full of horse shit. I would like to personally inform Microsoft that an operating system should not be an experience, and it certainly should not aim to be one. An OS should generally work so well that the user doesn't even think about it. Talk to any Windows user, and ask them what their experience of Windows is. They'll tell you that it's a bastard when Windows search doesn't find stuff you know is there, they'll tell you that it's annoying when autorun won't remember to take no action on CDs that contain one jpeg, or when popups appear asking you whether you want to run ActiveX controls, or that it's slow to start up, or whatever. They probably won't list anything good about it, and you know why that is? It's because they use it every day, and bad things carry so much more weight than good things.
So, when Microsoft considers what its OS should sound like they should remember one thing: if the user notices the sounds, they're crap. If the user even remembers the sounds easily, they're crap. A six second sample on boot is an exceptionally bad idea.
I'm not a Mac zealot, but they've got it right. Turn it on, and it goes 'bong', and that's it. 'Bong' says it all. It says 'I've turned on, I'm booting, and everything is cool.' It's a simple, reassuring noise. Microsoft's equivalent is 'wooowooowooowoooziiininininintiwiwiwiddlewiddlew
This post has turned out rather long and rambling, especially since it's about something as simple as a windows boot noise, but I'll finish off with some points for Microsoft to follow when considering their Windows Vista soundscape:
1. Keep It Simple, Stupid.
2. Boot/shutdown sound no longer than 2 seconds, informational/alert sounds no longer than a second.
3. When you talk about confident sounds for Windows, please don't try to make Windows Vista sound like it is confident, but try to give me, the user, a feeling of confidence. Reassure me.
4. Don't hire old prog rockers. They have spent too long trying to be noticed and trying to sound impressive. You can use them for the sound that plays at the start of your keynotes, but not the sound that plays whenever I turn on my computer.
How long did it take you to write out those sounds? I read them back and I can't hear them...even though I have heard the sounds many times as well.
I saw the Sign, and it opened up my eyes
As a fiddle-player, I've played with a band called Los Racketeeros, which starred Charlie Witney from Family, with whom John Wetton played the bass with for a short while, (as shown on the Live at the BBC album), who also played with King Crimson in the early 70's along side Robert Fripp...
'Stupidity is an often fatal disease' - R. A. Heinlein
I don't care because my iPod earbud made me deaf.
Windows sounds and this (and really, region coding in general) are really why I prefer linux.
"There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way of death." Proverbs 16:25 (NKJV)
My favorite song on that album was always Lark's Tongue in Aspic. It's the perfect track to test out a new stereo with, it starts so quiet and then bam, huge bass which fades away into tinkling bells. Covers the whole dynamic range for music.
In a recent announcment, MS has stated that Mr. Fripp will be laid off effective immediately.
In unrelated news, Microsoft has announced that it hire 3,000 new composers in a new 'Windows Media Center' to be built in India.
Now, if only Robert Fripp didn't produce shit music....
After about six minutes with a pop tart it goes BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP...
No, wait. That's my smoke detector. Nevermind.
Please...
They don't last long enough to get boring or repetitive. As long as you don't play them over and over like sample loops that is...
Microsoft sounds are pretty identifiable though. We just started using a new telephone conference system at work and I'll bet money that the software was written by Microsoft, as the "tones" they use to signal when to say your name or enter your conference code sound exactly like the windows sound effects...
Sure beats the old Windows 'ding.wav' !
Seriously, not trying to start a flame war or be a smart-ass, but I will definately be unplugging my speakers. Am I the only one to find the music to be a little annoying?
"Probably" to the HD? Where else is it going to go? (Disneyland?)
They're going to run out of progressive musicians one of these days. Personally I was hoping for David Byrne, he could have done a great Hasta La Vista tune.
insecurity asks the wrong question irritation gives the wrong answer
Robert Fripp dyes his hair.
Mac user mostly. Got $1,000,000 for a few seconds of music for Windows 95. If The Beast of Redmond paid me a million for a few seconds of music, I'd do it.
However, it seems like David Byrne is a Windows Kool-ade drinker. I wouldn't be surprised if Byrne was the one who passed Fripp's contact info to his buddy Bill.
The Crimson song "Dig Me" should factor somewhere in the Windows Vista sound set. It's about a broken down piece of crap car. Perfect for a new OS by a company with a broken down piece of crap business model.
Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power multiplied.
My memory was a bit foggy.
r y/l-boot.html
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/libra
It's an article on how to optimise the Linux boot-process by parallelising the init script. This is done using make.
When I entered "sleep to ram" into google the entire first page was full of relevant hits. Look into the Wikipedia article on ACPI for more info.
;-) You'd know that if you were actually a Linux user and not just trolling.
AFAIK the reason this isn't always turned on in Linux has historically been due to compatability issues. (As in, the kernel coders have had to reverse engineer things and it has sometimes caused unstable behaviour.) Depending on your distro and hardware configuration I'm sure there are plenty of times this works out of the box on Linux too.
Other than that, you're not supposed to turn off a Linux machine.
You're also a fucking retard.
You're always moaning about how Linux makes you learn, and that takes so much time away from your little lemonade stand. Here's a clue: educate your retarded ass instead of posting your trolls.
And by the way:
1. A cash register at a pet groomer and a home computer have very different functions, and are used by people in very different roles.
2. Just because you slobber all over Windows doesn't mean it's Jesus on a hard drive.
3. Your massive Bumfuck, Illinois pet store network is hardly archetypal, and you having no spyware != spyware doesn't exist.
4. Re blaming the victims: do you think "stupid users" were trying to install spyware by looking at a jpeg?
Your are such a blatant, useless piece of shit.