Six 9-11's, for fuck sake more people kill themselves driving to work every year than the terorrist could do in 10 years. Wake me when something interesting happens.
Last time I checked Russia already had a nuclear capable missile with independent, multiple warheads.....twenty-five years ago.
And also last time I checked we only fuck with other countries when it is our business, Iraq our business (cleaning up the mess from GW 1), Iran yep still our business (damn revolutionaries kicked out our puppet gov't that was riding herd on all the fundamentalists), Afganastan yep again our business (we trained all those terrosist to fight the Soviets and the bastards wouldn't chill out afterwards so we're cleaning house (our mess)).
The only thing that is a waste of resources are college funds that continue to produce American hating liberal suck-ups too stupid to think for themselves and actually learn a little history so maybe they might realize that nearly all of the Bush Administration's diplomatic and policy "bunglings" that have "dragged" America down to it's current low have actually been in the works for over forty years and can just as easily be layed at the feet of many President's both Republican and Democrat.
I'm trolling for some "-1 Troll"
(This is an experiment to see exactly how much it takes to knock down ones Karma from Excellent.)
That and I'm really tired of the whiny Apple loving, Steve Jobs pole smoking, wanna be neo-hippy cosumeristic, President Bush is a bad bad man hating, brats that live off of their parents dime and then sit on/. spouting their constant dribble over how everything in the world is wrong even though they've never been farther abroad than a two week school trip to France and wouldn't have the first clue about how bad things in the really real world are and how they have absolutley nothing to do with anything the US has ever done and more to do with the ignorant fucked up societies that have populated most of the 3rd world for over the past couple of thousands years.
I'll take "-1 Flamebait" too, honestly I'm not that picky.
You example of accurate GPS and topographics and range finders is a little off base. If you notice most of the "fully automatic" drone systems fly up above 20,000 feet were there is no danger of running into the ground. The ones that do fly close to the ground are all throw away systems and are usually small enough to be carried by a couple of people.
Typically the aircraft I'm familiar with have an INS system with 2x redundancy, a GPS (is used for back-up navigation and to operate moving map systems, otherwise the pilot's cry when they have to navigate and use real maps), a radar altimeter, with an pitot-static (air pressure) system for speed and altitude, on newer aircraft these are digital electronic systems, on older or backup systems they just run air lines to the indicators and the computers. You also have a pair of accelerometers for each axis to measure acceleration and a couple of gyros to measure attitude (a redundant system to the INS). Each flight surface has some sort of position sensor along with a feedback sensor to help control the hydrolic actuators. That mess feeds into a control box which feeds into an air data computer and eventualy into an autopilot which loops back into the control box to put in electonic surface commands. Everything is usually double, tripple, or even quad reduntant but at the same time it only takes a couple of failures in the right spots and this whole thing goes bat shit.
In the case of a human pilot. He goes, huh this doesn't look right and flips a couple of switches shutting off the system or resetting it. This sort of things happens all the time by the way.
The fully automated system can't tell when things are wrong because it only knows what it tells itself, and that's when you watch the auto system buck the plane up and down violently on the runway trying to correct for errors that are not even there.
This is why you only see fully automatic systems on things like drones and bombs since you don't really care if they come back.
You are right though about one thing when I'm flying through the mountains and I look down I do see snow. It's pretty.
Have you seen AI path finding in games lately? How many times have you witnessed the computer running into things at full tilt over and over again, and you want that kind of smarts telling your airplane where to go?
Computers are great for recording and processing data but are absolutely horrible at interperating it or making decisions based on it. The ones operating aircraft are doing very specific, simple actions, based on controlled and limited information. They are only "flying" the aircraft in the most basic sense, about as much as your cruise control is "driving" your car.
Everytime my flight training took me near El Mirage dry lake bed in Southern California, the traffic controllers would warn us to get the hell out of the way when the drones where up and about since none of them had the ability to see or react to us.
I'll stick with the sleep deprived, chemical addicted, emotional unstable, mentally distracted organic flight control stick actuating units to pilot the aircraft I'm own for at least a few more decades before I'm willing to entrust something electronic.
You seem to be rambling about something, but I'm not sure what your point is.
The video is the video and the physics is the physics. Currently right now all the physics is handled by the CPU or by the PPU if you have it and software supports it.
I think you are going on about how "game physics" is not the same as real physics, which is pretty obvious to anyone that's been following the tech. Fully blown real material physics simulations couldn't run in real time on any machine currently known to man and probably not anything that will exist in the next 20 years to be usefull.
I could give a shit less where the game physics runs, as long as it's being developed. In an extra card, then so be it. Integrated into something else, cool. Running on an unused core on a multi-core CPU, bonus.
I could care less if ATI get's left out in the cold. They've been going on for years how physics could run on their video cards with nothing to show for it. AMD has been promising vaporware for a while too. Maybe Nvidia snapping up Ageia will light a fire under their ass and get them to move some hardware and software out the door.
I wouldn't get too excited about Valve, last I read they are skipping over support for 2 and 3 core CPU's and going straight to 4 for all their future goodness, so it's going to be a while before that hits the mainstream.
I still like the idea of a PPU, but it would be nice if it were intergrated straight into the GPU or the CPU, or a chip on the Mobo, just like so many other dedicated devices that have come before it.
I just wish Nvidia and ATI and 3rd party software and start seeing some neat GPU based things that would make things other than games scream.
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Actually the thing you are missing is the bridge pieces bending before it collapses, the barrel being dented as it rolls down the hill, or the rag doll limbs breaking or being ripped off with the proper application of force. Those things cannot be done in real time on a CPU.
Unfortunately most of those things are only avialable in demos atm. UT3 has a couple of special maps that do some neat stuff, but then you start running into problems with the video card trying to keep up with the 100 or so bricks that just came crashing down from the wall you just demolished.
In the main game the only physx I noticed was the cloth simulation of the flags, and the main characters outfit, of course you don't exactly have a whole lot of time to take this all in since everyone is trying to kill you.
Ageia is not just hardware physics the software they make does a pretty good job. The vehicles in UT3 are some of the best I've every seen. I started laughing during one game because I managed to get a small vehicle wedged under my tank and kept going, dragging it along, verses instantly getting stuck while the CPU sits there trying to figure out the clipping and collosion detection.
The premium idea in my book would be for Nvidia to integrate the function into their video cards, but keep it dormant, so that it is only used as a video card at the time, and then when you upgrade your video card, the new one takes over the video and the old one moves over a slot and becomes a dedicated PPU in the second SLI slot.
On some of the government chartered flights after 911, the screeners were making soldiers give up their personal tools and pockets knives, but the M16's they had slung on their shoulders were ok to take on board.
Personally I think they should do like they do with the seat cushions in case of a water landing.
In case of a terrorist highjacking your armrest converts into a blunt weapon. To use just raise it above your head and with a swift downward motion bash the highjacker in the head. Repeat as necessary.
Why do we go to where the big buck's are. The whole the military is bleeding us dry routinue is getting old. It hardly compares to the amount of waste and theivery in other sections.
100billion, that's about a month and a half's worth of public welfare programs at the Federal level.
If we stopped paying all the drug addicts, bums, and the baby makers for a at the state level too well we probably could rap up the whole upgrade costs in two weeks.
If we chucked in farming subsidies I bet we could get it down to one weeks worth of cash.
That's a crock. A Text message is nothing more than a very short email, somehow email has managed to chug along just fine, for free no less.
SMS is just like just about anything from Apple, really good marketing of an old product at premium prices and a large audience of people that don't know any better.
Personally I'm looking forward to all the new places in the ocean to sail and scuba dive, such as Florida, Georgia, Nebraska, etc.
All we are doing is returning the Earth to it's natural state before all those meddlesome plants inprisoned all the poor helpless carbon in the ground. That's what all the tree huggers seem to long for anyway, a return to the days of the Earth without people. Well those days included things like, no winter, and the ocean being considerably farther inland than it is now, so what are you all crying about then?
California is starting to get worried about that as well and want to put GPS odometers in everyone's car for the tax.
I love the fuel tax here in the UK, so exactly what does the government spend it's $4 a gallon tax on? It's not the roads that's for sure. California roads get's by on about $.05 a gallon, they piss the other $.13 of the $.18pg tax on social programs.
I don't see why social programs cost so much. Of course if the parent article is accurate about using any carbon source as feedstock, we can save alot of money on both gas and social programs by converting all the intentionally homeless/unemployed, just go to any popular beach in California and you'll know what I mean, into fuel.
Go get 15 gallons of "The Green" 90 octane from the Soylent gas station on the corner.
It doesn't matter either way, I've already made the jump to a non-optical home system anyway. The disc is just a convient method of transfer not what I use for playback. The only difference in the HD formats is HD DVD I was willing to buy, but anything from SONY is rental only. They won't be seeing too many of my $$, much like they don't from DVD sales now.
Last time I checked the biggest feeding frenzies are right after Thanksgiving and the weeks following Christmas. Of course sales are down to a trickle, everyone has cashed in their gift cards. The local store has moved hardly any 360's, iPods, PS3's, TV, laptops, etc, etc either. Does that mean it's the death knell for all of those products too? Hardly.
Not that many in the US even like the UN. Most of us would be glad to wash our hands of it and use the extra tax money on something worth while like as hookers and blow, instead of pouring money into the pockets of leaches from every butt-crack country on the planet who in turn piss it all away on hookers and blow.
I find Steam's Hardware surveys to be a better count on the number of Vista installs as well as typical user hardware when talking about what the typical PC gamer has. Vista is sitting around 13% atm and XP around 85%.
Some of the hardware reported is pretty interesting as well. Out there somewhere is a guy with a machine with 127 cpu's and another that has a 5" monitor hooked up as the primary display.
Let's see Falcon 1's first flight lasted all of 29 seconds.
The Second test flight lasted 6 minutes and and technically reached space, but considering they lost the craft and the payload, I wouldn't exactly call that a success, maybe a productive failure.
How many people have SpaceX put into space again?
That's is my interest, putting things into orbit is not all that hard at government or megacorp levels. SpaceX looks to be just retracing the same path, minus all the management and government bagage normally is involved. If they can bring the price per kg down good for them, but I don't ever seen them offering a service to you, me, or average Joe other than maybe sending a 1/4 pound container of Grampa to orbit.
Now back to Scaled Composites. When some smart guys with a limited budget in a little shit town in the California desert can build something in a few small hangers and put people into space and bring them back alive then you can color me very impressed.
Here is a perfect geek example as too why it won't collapse.
How much money did George Lucas make off of the Star Wars films directly in comparison to how much he made off of merchandicing and licensing?
I suspect that other than the intial ticket sales money off of the first film, that the grand bulk of it did not come from direct sales of tickets or media copies of the movies.
Some people feel it's natural to shove common house hold items up their asses too, but I don't think it's so outrageous that manufacturers don't make any special efforts to account for this in their designs either.
There's nothing natural about some of the TV cabinet's these days, and it's been more than ten years since home theater equipment, much less computers or counsels ran cool enough to be shoved into a box without expecting it to be damaged by heat. So I think people have had more than enough time to figure that out.
ummm... SpaceX has barely gotten off the pad much less into space. I don't see why you have such a hard on for them. So far all they've got are spred sheets with projections. Until they light the fire and send some metal into space all they are is talk.
To say Scaled Composites is not "contributing" is incorrect. Who do you think came up with and has built and flown a throttleable solid rocket engine? (I'll give you a hint, It wasn't SpaceX.) They've also come up with some interesting canopy (window) designs that are fairly novel and structurally as well as visually better than what is commonly used today.
There is also the little detail that you seem to be missing, Scaled Composites isn't interested in the Space Joyride Industry, that would be Virgin Atlantic. They are interested in building inovative aircraft which they do with startling regularity. I doubt a very small contract supplying some souped up versions of their prototype aircraft is going to distract them much.
Oh also there is the little thing I bet you didn't know. Scaled Composites helps build the Pegasus air launched vehicle which regularly puts 1/2 ton satalites into low orbit, yes that's orbit with a capital "O" and have been part of building two more proof of concept lifters that have flown, along with a dozen new unique aircraft, several of which hold world records.
So yes we should be focusing of companies starting from "scatch" as you put it instead of companies that still think EXTREME/X marketing is worth a turd and a few simulated launch videos and a few ground test as achievements.
:) You have a very valid point, the local village down the road has a tree in town that is something like 200 years older that the US. The Church in town is two hundred years older than the tree.
Yes I agree completely with that statement. The power companies, more like the power brokers have been playing a game for years in the US to keep prices up.
The truly sad thing is even with all the criminal behavior by the companies the prices are still a alot less in the States than I've found in the various places in Europe I've lived. In the States they have to be sneaky to rip us off, in Europe it's written right into the government regulations to rip people off.
I'm looking forward to heading back to the US when my time is up and putting solar and wind up at the house and start getting a check in the mail from the power company instead of a bill.
And has been for 2000 years, according to the summary. Why would it only begin melting in modern times, if the volcano is the cause ?
Yeah with all that data we have colected by scientists during the days of the Roman Empire makes it easy to see those long term ice melting trends.....
....oh wait that's right you are a git and you are talking out your arse.
Now for proper insults and arguments when you saying raining all the time, you haven't identified where you from. I'm assuming Europe. I've only spent a real amount of time in England, Norway, and Cyprus so my knowledge of weather is limited to those places.
England does nothing but piss rain and rarely ever gets cold enough for snow, so you can hardly blame that on the US.
Norwary rarely get's warm enough for anything but snow (I've only been there during the winter, froze my ass off.) so you can't be from there.
Cyprus was nice and warm, and if that is what the world is going to be like after global warming then let's go for a drive in my SUV to go buy stuff that has alot of plastic packaging.
The more I travel the more I realize that people are full of it, and can hardly lay all the worlds problems at the US's feet. I haven't seen anything in Europe that impresses me of your Green life style.
You don't have any better driving habits than in the US. The only reasons you drive less (as in distance not in frequency, is your sky high taxes, shitty roads, and that you are willing to live shoulder to shoulder in town with barely any parking, is the only reason you guys drive small cars.
Mild winters and summers also let's you off the hook for cooling and heating bills and the fact that you guys are willing to again be gouged by the utility companys. I can see why you use less. I'm still paying twice as much here in the UK (without AC) than I did while living in the California desert(with AC) which supposedly is supposed to be in the middle of a power crisis and having raised rates drastically in the last few years.
Now the only point I'll conceed to you is the war in Iraq is pretty much a waste of time. The money would have been better spent buying everyone Priuses and solar panels for their homes and a nice candygram telling the Middle East to go fuck their mothers.
Of course if we want to look at who has really caused all the problems in the Middle East and just about every other corner of the world all we have to do is take a look European history book. 400 years of European global policies and Empire building has made a real mess of things. The US has hardly had enough time to be blamed for much of it, but man does everyone scream bloody murder when we try to clean it up.
Too many people take their 360, PS3, media center PC home and the first thing they do is shove it into the empty spot in their entertainment center usually on top of another component and then shut the door. It's like leaving your kid in your car on a nice hot sunny day, while they go inside to buy beer.
Infanty mortality is a perfect description how many pieces of electronics die these days.
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Last time I checked Russia already had a nuclear capable missile with independent, multiple warheads.....twenty-five years ago.
And also last time I checked we only fuck with other countries when it is our business, Iraq our business (cleaning up the mess from GW 1), Iran yep still our business (damn revolutionaries kicked out our puppet gov't that was riding herd on all the fundamentalists), Afganastan yep again our business (we trained all those terrosist to fight the Soviets and the bastards wouldn't chill out afterwards so we're cleaning house (our mess)).
The only thing that is a waste of resources are college funds that continue to produce American hating liberal suck-ups too stupid to think for themselves and actually learn a little history so maybe they might realize that nearly all of the Bush Administration's diplomatic and policy "bunglings" that have "dragged" America down to it's current low have actually been in the works for over forty years and can just as easily be layed at the feet of many President's both Republican and Democrat.
I'm trolling for some "-1 Troll"
(This is an experiment to see exactly how much it takes to knock down ones Karma from Excellent.)
That and I'm really tired of the whiny Apple loving, Steve Jobs pole smoking, wanna be neo-hippy cosumeristic, President Bush is a bad bad man hating, brats that live off of their parents dime and then sit on /. spouting their constant dribble over how everything in the world is wrong even though they've never been farther abroad than a two week school trip to France and wouldn't have the first clue about how bad things in the really real world are and how they have absolutley nothing to do with anything the US has ever done and more to do with the ignorant fucked up societies that have populated most of the 3rd world for over the past couple of thousands years.
I'll take "-1 Flamebait" too, honestly I'm not that picky.
Typically the aircraft I'm familiar with have an INS system with 2x redundancy, a GPS (is used for back-up navigation and to operate moving map systems, otherwise the pilot's cry when they have to navigate and use real maps), a radar altimeter, with an pitot-static (air pressure) system for speed and altitude, on newer aircraft these are digital electronic systems, on older or backup systems they just run air lines to the indicators and the computers. You also have a pair of accelerometers for each axis to measure acceleration and a couple of gyros to measure attitude (a redundant system to the INS). Each flight surface has some sort of position sensor along with a feedback sensor to help control the hydrolic actuators. That mess feeds into a control box which feeds into an air data computer and eventualy into an autopilot which loops back into the control box to put in electonic surface commands. Everything is usually double, tripple, or even quad reduntant but at the same time it only takes a couple of failures in the right spots and this whole thing goes bat shit. In the case of a human pilot. He goes, huh this doesn't look right and flips a couple of switches shutting off the system or resetting it. This sort of things happens all the time by the way.
The fully automated system can't tell when things are wrong because it only knows what it tells itself, and that's when you watch the auto system buck the plane up and down violently on the runway trying to correct for errors that are not even there.
This is why you only see fully automatic systems on things like drones and bombs since you don't really care if they come back.
You are right though about one thing when I'm flying through the mountains and I look down I do see snow. It's pretty.
Computers are great for recording and processing data but are absolutely horrible at interperating it or making decisions based on it. The ones operating aircraft are doing very specific, simple actions, based on controlled and limited information. They are only "flying" the aircraft in the most basic sense, about as much as your cruise control is "driving" your car.
Everytime my flight training took me near El Mirage dry lake bed in Southern California, the traffic controllers would warn us to get the hell out of the way when the drones where up and about since none of them had the ability to see or react to us.
I'll stick with the sleep deprived, chemical addicted, emotional unstable, mentally distracted organic flight control stick actuating units to pilot the aircraft I'm own for at least a few more decades before I'm willing to entrust something electronic.
The video is the video and the physics is the physics. Currently right now all the physics is handled by the CPU or by the PPU if you have it and software supports it.
I think you are going on about how "game physics" is not the same as real physics, which is pretty obvious to anyone that's been following the tech. Fully blown real material physics simulations couldn't run in real time on any machine currently known to man and probably not anything that will exist in the next 20 years to be usefull.
I could give a shit less where the game physics runs, as long as it's being developed. In an extra card, then so be it. Integrated into something else, cool. Running on an unused core on a multi-core CPU, bonus.
I could care less if ATI get's left out in the cold. They've been going on for years how physics could run on their video cards with nothing to show for it. AMD has been promising vaporware for a while too. Maybe Nvidia snapping up Ageia will light a fire under their ass and get them to move some hardware and software out the door.
I still like the idea of a PPU, but it would be nice if it were intergrated straight into the GPU or the CPU, or a chip on the Mobo, just like so many other dedicated devices that have come before it.
I just wish Nvidia and ATI and 3rd party software and start seeing some neat GPU based things that would make things other than games scream.
Unfortunately most of those things are only avialable in demos atm. UT3 has a couple of special maps that do some neat stuff, but then you start running into problems with the video card trying to keep up with the 100 or so bricks that just came crashing down from the wall you just demolished.
In the main game the only physx I noticed was the cloth simulation of the flags, and the main characters outfit, of course you don't exactly have a whole lot of time to take this all in since everyone is trying to kill you.
Ageia is not just hardware physics the software they make does a pretty good job. The vehicles in UT3 are some of the best I've every seen. I started laughing during one game because I managed to get a small vehicle wedged under my tank and kept going, dragging it along, verses instantly getting stuck while the CPU sits there trying to figure out the clipping and collosion detection.
The premium idea in my book would be for Nvidia to integrate the function into their video cards, but keep it dormant, so that it is only used as a video card at the time, and then when you upgrade your video card, the new one takes over the video and the old one moves over a slot and becomes a dedicated PPU in the second SLI slot.
Personally I think they should do like they do with the seat cushions in case of a water landing.
In case of a terrorist highjacking your armrest converts into a blunt weapon. To use just raise it above your head and with a swift downward motion bash the highjacker in the head. Repeat as necessary.
Never heard of that motto? What's it from?
I'm more partial to the motto:
If you kick a man while he's down, he'll be motivated to get back up.
If we stopped paying all the drug addicts, bums, and the baby makers for a at the state level too well we probably could rap up the whole upgrade costs in two weeks.
If we chucked in farming subsidies I bet we could get it down to one weeks worth of cash.
SMS is just like just about anything from Apple, really good marketing of an old product at premium prices and a large audience of people that don't know any better.
All we are doing is returning the Earth to it's natural state before all those meddlesome plants inprisoned all the poor helpless carbon in the ground. That's what all the tree huggers seem to long for anyway, a return to the days of the Earth without people. Well those days included things like, no winter, and the ocean being considerably farther inland than it is now, so what are you all crying about then?
I love the fuel tax here in the UK, so exactly what does the government spend it's $4 a gallon tax on? It's not the roads that's for sure. California roads get's by on about $.05 a gallon, they piss the other $.13 of the $.18pg tax on social programs.
I don't see why social programs cost so much. Of course if the parent article is accurate about using any carbon source as feedstock, we can save alot of money on both gas and social programs by converting all the intentionally homeless/unemployed, just go to any popular beach in California and you'll know what I mean, into fuel.
Go get 15 gallons of "The Green" 90 octane from the Soylent gas station on the corner.
It doesn't matter either way, I've already made the jump to a non-optical home system anyway. The disc is just a convient method of transfer not what I use for playback. The only difference in the HD formats is HD DVD I was willing to buy, but anything from SONY is rental only. They won't be seeing too many of my $$, much like they don't from DVD sales now.
Last time I checked the biggest feeding frenzies are right after Thanksgiving and the weeks following Christmas. Of course sales are down to a trickle, everyone has cashed in their gift cards. The local store has moved hardly any 360's, iPods, PS3's, TV, laptops, etc, etc either. Does that mean it's the death knell for all of those products too? Hardly.
Not that many in the US even like the UN. Most of us would be glad to wash our hands of it and use the extra tax money on something worth while like as hookers and blow, instead of pouring money into the pockets of leaches from every butt-crack country on the planet who in turn piss it all away on hookers and blow.
http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html
Some of the hardware reported is pretty interesting as well. Out there somewhere is a guy with a machine with 127 cpu's and another that has a 5" monitor hooked up as the primary display.
The Second test flight lasted 6 minutes and and technically reached space, but considering they lost the craft and the payload, I wouldn't exactly call that a success, maybe a productive failure.
How many people have SpaceX put into space again?
That's is my interest, putting things into orbit is not all that hard at government or megacorp levels. SpaceX looks to be just retracing the same path, minus all the management and government bagage normally is involved. If they can bring the price per kg down good for them, but I don't ever seen them offering a service to you, me, or average Joe other than maybe sending a 1/4 pound container of Grampa to orbit.
Now back to Scaled Composites. When some smart guys with a limited budget in a little shit town in the California desert can build something in a few small hangers and put people into space and bring them back alive then you can color me very impressed.
How much money did George Lucas make off of the Star Wars films directly in comparison to how much he made off of merchandicing and licensing?
I suspect that other than the intial ticket sales money off of the first film, that the grand bulk of it did not come from direct sales of tickets or media copies of the movies.
There's nothing natural about some of the TV cabinet's these days, and it's been more than ten years since home theater equipment, much less computers or counsels ran cool enough to be shoved into a box without expecting it to be damaged by heat. So I think people have had more than enough time to figure that out.
To say Scaled Composites is not "contributing" is incorrect. Who do you think came up with and has built and flown a throttleable solid rocket engine? (I'll give you a hint, It wasn't SpaceX.) They've also come up with some interesting canopy (window) designs that are fairly novel and structurally as well as visually better than what is commonly used today.
There is also the little detail that you seem to be missing, Scaled Composites isn't interested in the Space Joyride Industry, that would be Virgin Atlantic. They are interested in building inovative aircraft which they do with startling regularity. I doubt a very small contract supplying some souped up versions of their prototype aircraft is going to distract them much.
Oh also there is the little thing I bet you didn't know. Scaled Composites helps build the Pegasus air launched vehicle which regularly puts 1/2 ton satalites into low orbit, yes that's orbit with a capital "O" and have been part of building two more proof of concept lifters that have flown, along with a dozen new unique aircraft, several of which hold world records.
So yes we should be focusing of companies starting from "scatch" as you put it instead of companies that still think EXTREME/X marketing is worth a turd and a few simulated launch videos and a few ground test as achievements.
:) You have a very valid point, the local village down the road has a tree in town that is something like 200 years older that the US. The Church in town is two hundred years older than the tree.
The truly sad thing is even with all the criminal behavior by the companies the prices are still a alot less in the States than I've found in the various places in Europe I've lived. In the States they have to be sneaky to rip us off, in Europe it's written right into the government regulations to rip people off.
I'm looking forward to heading back to the US when my time is up and putting solar and wind up at the house and start getting a check in the mail from the power company instead of a bill.
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Yeah with all that data we have colected by scientists during the days of the Roman Empire makes it easy to see those long term ice melting trends.....
Now for proper insults and arguments when you saying raining all the time, you haven't identified where you from. I'm assuming Europe. I've only spent a real amount of time in England, Norway, and Cyprus so my knowledge of weather is limited to those places.
England does nothing but piss rain and rarely ever gets cold enough for snow, so you can hardly blame that on the US.
Norwary rarely get's warm enough for anything but snow (I've only been there during the winter, froze my ass off.) so you can't be from there.
Cyprus was nice and warm, and if that is what the world is going to be like after global warming then let's go for a drive in my SUV to go buy stuff that has alot of plastic packaging.
The more I travel the more I realize that people are full of it, and can hardly lay all the worlds problems at the US's feet. I haven't seen anything in Europe that impresses me of your Green life style.
You don't have any better driving habits than in the US. The only reasons you drive less (as in distance not in frequency, is your sky high taxes, shitty roads, and that you are willing to live shoulder to shoulder in town with barely any parking, is the only reason you guys drive small cars.
Mild winters and summers also let's you off the hook for cooling and heating bills and the fact that you guys are willing to again be gouged by the utility companys. I can see why you use less. I'm still paying twice as much here in the UK (without AC) than I did while living in the California desert(with AC) which supposedly is supposed to be in the middle of a power crisis and having raised rates drastically in the last few years.
Now the only point I'll conceed to you is the war in Iraq is pretty much a waste of time. The money would have been better spent buying everyone Priuses and solar panels for their homes and a nice candygram telling the Middle East to go fuck their mothers.
Of course if we want to look at who has really caused all the problems in the Middle East and just about every other corner of the world all we have to do is take a look European history book. 400 years of European global policies and Empire building has made a real mess of things. The US has hardly had enough time to be blamed for much of it, but man does everyone scream bloody murder when we try to clean it up.
Infanty mortality is a perfect description how many pieces of electronics die these days.