Not that I'm against underaged drinking, have engaged in that myself decades ago, but she is obviously the kind of kid who has no issue posting incriminating evidence of her crimes. That is at least a little insight into who she is. Plus, Busch Light? That should grant further insight:
That deserves some +5 informative mods. I've heard about Roman devaluation of coinage to a small extent, but this really put that into perspective with the dark ages' reliance on metals.
Christ man -- it's a parallel. That was my whole point -- that this case will end up being applied like Smith is now. I really don't think I was that unclear.
BTW, the guy in Smith was an asshole too. There's a saying in the legal profession: "Bad facts make bad law."
You're last paragraph is epitomizes how that happens.
Holy moly what were they thinking when they let someone waive their fourth amendment rights? How could any of the sheep we've created be able to make such an important decision?
That is the thinking behind Smith v. Maryland (*) -- if you share information with a 3d party, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy (think about that the next time you talk to your doctor -- HIPPA be damned, the 3d party doctrine has already been applied to medical records (*)).
Smith was rooted in a set of facts where the police were investigating a single person for a specific crime in a situation where they could have definitely got a warrant.
However, by quote mining Smith v. Maryland for that 3d party doctrine, and divorcing that quote from its factual matrix, we end up with an interpretation where the NSA gets anything it wants with respect to information shared with a 3d party. This is true even if the factual basis is the complete antithesis of Smith -- the info the NSA collects is outside a specific investigation, unrelated to any specific person, and gathered in situations where a warrant most certainly would _not_ be granted.
This is how it works in the law. Take some fairly reasonable set of facts and enunciate a principal based on those. Next, divorce the principal from the facts. Profit (if you are fascist).
If you don't think this case will be quote mined, and this principal (that 3d party occupants can override the decision of a 1st party occupant) will become unhinged from its factual underpinnings, then applied to anyone anywhere anytime no matter how innocent -- you don't understand how law works in America. With this case, and your "hmmm -- makes sense" attitude -- you just got robbed, and you don't even know it.
Clairvoyant much? I've seen people get arrested, but never had any idea why. Did the secondary occupant know why?
This is a dangerous case. Like Smith v. Maryland has been blown out of all proportion and stripped from its particular factual roots in order to justify NSA masspionage, twenty years from now, it is very likely people will look back on this case and think -- "Holy Moly -- WTF were they thinking when they did that."
Maybe I got a little carried away by telling religious groups to suck it up but it makes so unhappy to hear about people who oppose gay marriage and homosexuality in general....
Your solution is elegant and simple and you did not get carried away. Never apologize to bigots who are willing to apply one part of the bible out of hate, but not others. We don't see non-virgin women who get married, being stoned to death do we? We don't see divorcees getting stoned to death either. And you don't see Christians turning up their nose at shellfish out of some type of moral indignation? Shellfish are an abomination: http://www.godhatesshrimp.com/
So please. Don't apologize to selective reading bigoted assholes. Ever. They have a right to their opinion, but they have no right to your respect.
Imagine glasses that discretely display your speed to the side of your field of view -- instead of looking down to check your speed, you don't have to take your eyes off the road. Other data about the road ahead could be displayed too. More awesome, the device could black out the intense points of oncoming headlights. I would love that, rather than having to look off to the side of the road (which is fine for staying in the lane, but not for seeing hazards ahead), I could continue to watch the road without being blinded.
Plus, your bill is too broad. Why should a GPS unit attached to the dash be treated differently from one built into the dash. The one on the dash is better from a usability standpoint because the driver doesn't have to look down as far, thus keeping more of the road in view. Of course, there are other things too -- a pacemaker is an electronic device. On the silly end, so are heated socks.
So far, Cold Fjord ( http://slashdot.org/~cold+fjor... ) has posted 17 comments to this 200 comment thread. Almost 10% of the comments. And while he/she/they ("it" hereafter) are bitching about the mod system, only 4 of those comments are rated 0. That means that someone not familiar with Cold Fjord's shilling and reading Slashdot, will be exposed to its BS and could very well be influenced by its misinformation and lies. That makes Cold Fjord and its bosses in JTRIG, successful.
I used WhatsApp for a short time -- that thing you saw as a feature? I saw it as an intrusion. I don't necessarily want any and all contacts entered into the phone showing up in WA -- I want to pick and choose exactly what data I share with different companies -- and for an IM client, I want to add users myself, not simply let it harvest them.
Umm... preventing a cozy relationship between corps and govt is fascism?
Exactly where did you go to school? People should know because you're education is staggeringly inadequate.
Just so you know, a regulation forbidding ISPs from being content providers is 180 degrees from fascism. The system we have now, where there's a revolving door between Comcast and the regulatory bodies, where laws are enacted to prevent competition (laws that Comcast purchases) -- that's what fascism looks like. When you can't really see the difference between the govt and the corps (oh, and some blind nationalism in the general populace (no deficit there in America)) -- that's fascism.
Regulatory burden? WTF? The only regs Comcast and its ilk adhere to are those that they purchase.
Here's what real regulation would look like -- no ISP may be a content provider of any type, nor can a parent company own both an ISP and a content provider/producer/etc. You can own one or the other, but not both.
The ONLY reason Comcast has a hardon for Netflix is because it is a content provider and Netflix threatens their model.
Maybe, or maybe Five Eyes is just a way to reunite with its colonies. In America, British people get a lot of attention socially, I'm guessing that is true in other former colonies. There's an entire genre of literature loosely based on feudal England (fantasy) and it even breaks into the mainstream every now and then (game of thrones) to sort of soften up attitudes toward the recombination. Anyway, that's enough conspiracy BS, but it is something that could eventually occur if interests aligned sufficiently, and with American apathy toward our political rulers shredding the Constitution as fast as possible, it isn't exactly impossible.
It might be better to go with cat pictures than vile porn -- a clever prosecutor might figure out a way to harass you with some legal BS over porn. Cat pics though -- as long as they are public domain or ones you took, no issues.
If Obama really wanted to help the country, he'd roll back the Executive branch's usurpation of legislative and judicial powers. Except he's just a member of the New GOP (formerly known as the DNC) and thus, has no interest in rocking the gravy boat.
Shit, they way you were talking spy-skills, I thought the USSR was alive and well considering how vastly awesome their spy apparatus is -- I mean, that they could manipulate so many random world events just to make it LOOK like Snowden got grounded in the USSR.... and you and I both know the USSR didn't go away -- it still exists and only PRETENDS to be Russia. It's all just like the face on mars, perpetual energy, and now "Snowden -- Soviet Spy" -- those fuckers are really good and behind it all. Probably even behind Beta.
In Smith, the police targeted a specific individual for telephone metadata, they most certainly could have gotten a warrant based on the information they had about that person (too lazy I guess), the pen register on Smith's phone was for a short period of time, the pen register was removed right away.
It would be extremely easy for the SCOTUS to limit Smith to its facts and find that a program which was not targeted, for which there was no probable cause, and was unlimited in duration, violates the Constitution.
Let's hope, then bootlickers such as yourself can suck it.
That Heritage Foundation stuff comes directly from the plan Nixon offered -- yeah, Tricky Dick. Obama's plan is essentially the same thing with the liberal parts stripped out.
He's either a total backbirth who somehow manages to type, or being paid by the NSA to troll. I'm guessing the latter, in which case, CF will be hooking up electrodes to other people's nuts without probable cause while exhorting them on the virtues of American values.
We can take the word of people like you that all is well in the Government, like we've been doing for decades... or the word of a conservative federal judge who called the programs Orwellian and almost certainly unconstitutional.
We would not be having this discussion without Snowden. Snowden was the only person who took his oat to the Constitution seriously.
As for the GOP and DNC, we basically have two neocon parties, one largely pro-abortion and gay-marriage, the other largely anti-abortion and gay-marriage. If they agreed on those issues, they'd be identical. Interestingly, those two issues don't matter if you get due process free murdered or gulaged.
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In case you're wondering "Sequim" is pronounced "skwim" excatly like "swim" with a "K" after the "S".
Not that I'm against underaged drinking, have engaged in that myself decades ago, but she is obviously the kind of kid who has no issue posting incriminating evidence of her crimes. That is at least a little insight into who she is. Plus, Busch Light? That should grant further insight:
http://www.everyjoe.com/2014/0...
That deserves some +5 informative mods. I've heard about Roman devaluation of coinage to a small extent, but this really put that into perspective with the dark ages' reliance on metals.
Christ man -- it's a parallel. That was my whole point -- that this case will end up being applied like Smith is now. I really don't think I was that unclear.
BTW, the guy in Smith was an asshole too. There's a saying in the legal profession: "Bad facts make bad law."
You're last paragraph is epitomizes how that happens.
That is the thinking behind Smith v. Maryland (*) -- if you share information with a 3d party, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy (think about that the next time you talk to your doctor -- HIPPA be damned, the 3d party doctrine has already been applied to medical records (*)).
Smith was rooted in a set of facts where the police were investigating a single person for a specific crime in a situation where they could have definitely got a warrant.
However, by quote mining Smith v. Maryland for that 3d party doctrine, and divorcing that quote from its factual matrix, we end up with an interpretation where the NSA gets anything it wants with respect to information shared with a 3d party. This is true even if the factual basis is the complete antithesis of Smith -- the info the NSA collects is outside a specific investigation, unrelated to any specific person, and gathered in situations where a warrant most certainly would _not_ be granted.
This is how it works in the law. Take some fairly reasonable set of facts and enunciate a principal based on those. Next, divorce the principal from the facts. Profit (if you are fascist).
If you don't think this case will be quote mined, and this principal (that 3d party occupants can override the decision of a 1st party occupant) will become unhinged from its factual underpinnings, then applied to anyone anywhere anytime no matter how innocent -- you don't understand how law works in America. With this case, and your "hmmm -- makes sense" attitude -- you just got robbed, and you don't even know it.
* http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/...
** http://www.mdd.uscourts.gov/Op...
Clairvoyant much? I've seen people get arrested, but never had any idea why. Did the secondary occupant know why?
This is a dangerous case. Like Smith v. Maryland has been blown out of all proportion and stripped from its particular factual roots in order to justify NSA masspionage, twenty years from now, it is very likely people will look back on this case and think -- "Holy Moly -- WTF were they thinking when they did that."
Your solution is elegant and simple and you did not get carried away. Never apologize to bigots who are willing to apply one part of the bible out of hate, but not others. We don't see non-virgin women who get married, being stoned to death do we? We don't see divorcees getting stoned to death either. And you don't see Christians turning up their nose at shellfish out of some type of moral indignation? Shellfish are an abomination: http://www.godhatesshrimp.com/
So please. Don't apologize to selective reading bigoted assholes. Ever. They have a right to their opinion, but they have no right to your respect.
What state do you live in? I want to make certain never to drive there.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=shou...
Seriously, you have some evidence for that statement?
That's kind of myopic.
Imagine glasses that discretely display your speed to the side of your field of view -- instead of looking down to check your speed, you don't have to take your eyes off the road. Other data about the road ahead could be displayed too. More awesome, the device could black out the intense points of oncoming headlights. I would love that, rather than having to look off to the side of the road (which is fine for staying in the lane, but not for seeing hazards ahead), I could continue to watch the road without being blinded.
Plus, your bill is too broad. Why should a GPS unit attached to the dash be treated differently from one built into the dash. The one on the dash is better from a usability standpoint because the driver doesn't have to look down as far, thus keeping more of the road in view. Of course, there are other things too -- a pacemaker is an electronic device. On the silly end, so are heated socks.
Honestly, you're law is terrible.
So far, Cold Fjord ( http://slashdot.org/~cold+fjor... ) has posted 17 comments to this 200 comment thread. Almost 10% of the comments. And while he/she/they ("it" hereafter) are bitching about the mod system, only 4 of those comments are rated 0. That means that someone not familiar with Cold Fjord's shilling and reading Slashdot, will be exposed to its BS and could very well be influenced by its misinformation and lies. That makes Cold Fjord and its bosses in JTRIG, successful.
So mods -- you see the problem. Do your duty.
I used WhatsApp for a short time -- that thing you saw as a feature? I saw it as an intrusion. I don't necessarily want any and all contacts entered into the phone showing up in WA -- I want to pick and choose exactly what data I share with different companies -- and for an IM client, I want to add users myself, not simply let it harvest them.
Umm ... preventing a cozy relationship between corps and govt is fascism?
Exactly where did you go to school? People should know because you're education is staggeringly inadequate.
Just so you know, a regulation forbidding ISPs from being content providers is 180 degrees from fascism. The system we have now, where there's a revolving door between Comcast and the regulatory bodies, where laws are enacted to prevent competition (laws that Comcast purchases) -- that's what fascism looks like. When you can't really see the difference between the govt and the corps (oh, and some blind nationalism in the general populace (no deficit there in America)) -- that's fascism.
Regulatory burden? WTF? The only regs Comcast and its ilk adhere to are those that they purchase.
Here's what real regulation would look like -- no ISP may be a content provider of any type, nor can a parent company own both an ISP and a content provider/producer/etc. You can own one or the other, but not both.
The ONLY reason Comcast has a hardon for Netflix is because it is a content provider and Netflix threatens their model.
Free Cascadia!
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Maybe, or maybe Five Eyes is just a way to reunite with its colonies. In America, British people get a lot of attention socially, I'm guessing that is true in other former colonies. There's an entire genre of literature loosely based on feudal England (fantasy) and it even breaks into the mainstream every now and then (game of thrones) to sort of soften up attitudes toward the recombination. Anyway, that's enough conspiracy BS, but it is something that could eventually occur if interests aligned sufficiently, and with American apathy toward our political rulers shredding the Constitution as fast as possible, it isn't exactly impossible.
It might be better to go with cat pictures than vile porn -- a clever prosecutor might figure out a way to harass you with some legal BS over porn. Cat pics though -- as long as they are public domain or ones you took, no issues.
If Obama really wanted to help the country, he'd roll back the Executive branch's usurpation of legislative and judicial powers. Except he's just a member of the New GOP (formerly known as the DNC) and thus, has no interest in rocking the gravy boat.
Shit, they way you were talking spy-skills, I thought the USSR was alive and well considering how vastly awesome their spy apparatus is -- I mean, that they could manipulate so many random world events just to make it LOOK like Snowden got grounded in the USSR .... and you and I both know the USSR didn't go away -- it still exists and only PRETENDS to be Russia. It's all just like the face on mars, perpetual energy, and now "Snowden -- Soviet Spy" -- those fuckers are really good and behind it all. Probably even behind Beta.
That was brilliant. The "You sicken me. Scum like you have polluted humanity since time began. During ..." line.
the 1930s you wore a brown shirt
He may or may not be an uber-hacker, I have no idea. That said, if you are handed root, you don't need to be a hacker at all.
Cut him some slack, it's his job to grovel in and shovel shit. Don't blame him for following orders. /sarcasm.
Are you talking about Smith v. Maryland?
Here are some distinguishing characteristics:
In Smith, the police targeted a specific individual for telephone metadata, they most certainly could have gotten a warrant based on the information they had about that person (too lazy I guess), the pen register on Smith's phone was for a short period of time, the pen register was removed right away.
It would be extremely easy for the SCOTUS to limit Smith to its facts and find that a program which was not targeted, for which there was no probable cause, and was unlimited in duration, violates the Constitution.
Let's hope, then bootlickers such as yourself can suck it.
That Heritage Foundation stuff comes directly from the plan Nixon offered -- yeah, Tricky Dick. Obama's plan is essentially the same thing with the liberal parts stripped out.
http://www.kaiserhealthnews.or...
He's either a total backbirth who somehow manages to type, or being paid by the NSA to troll. I'm guessing the latter, in which case, CF will be hooking up electrodes to other people's nuts without probable cause while exhorting them on the virtues of American values.
We can take the word of people like you that all is well in the Government, like we've been doing for decades ... or the word of a conservative federal judge who called the programs Orwellian and almost certainly unconstitutional.
We would not be having this discussion without Snowden. Snowden was the only person who took his oat to the Constitution seriously.
As for the GOP and DNC, we basically have two neocon parties, one largely pro-abortion and gay-marriage, the other largely anti-abortion and gay-marriage. If they agreed on those issues, they'd be identical. Interestingly, those two issues don't matter if you get due process free murdered or gulaged.