1. Tracking bracklets for parolies 2. Tracking for traveling employees 3. They are aready using it in cars, It won't be long before you will find them in radios for ad use. 4. Cell phones for kids that track their movements.
"Now it is my belief that anyone who engages in any criminal acts should not be praised for what they did, and they certainly shouldn't be allowed to make any money from it. After all, look at the outrage when a serial killer or murderer writes a book and publishes it. But when it's Kevin Mitnick, "information hero",/.ers are full of outrage when he's not allowed to make money from his infamy."
I agree that Kevin needed to be punished for his crimes. But it is not right to compare him to serial killers. He has something to add to socity and should be permited to do that.
Kevin will go back to working in the computer field when he has competed his probation (he has said that himself)
It does not appear to me that they are forbiding him from lecuring because he is a threat or because of the "son of sam laws" but simply to punish him more.
Think about this a minute. Kevin is trying to make himself productive the only way he (legaly) knows how to. If you forbid ex-crimminals from becoming productive citizens what do you think they are going to do? He is not going to work at a meanial job very long before he starts looking at ways to make money though more questionable means.
I think the whole idea of not allowing him access to computers after his release was kind of silly in the first place. This will just make his resolve to get back into the tech field stronger.
Kevin was not a great hacker but now he has a reputation as one because of his crimminal convicion. People tend to rise to greatness because they feel driven to. Kevin has that drive now. Give him a chance
I just took a job with a company this week that is currently a microsoft house. I had the same debate you did.
(Apache vs IIS)
The company desided it was in thier best interest to have both and hired me. I think even most die hard M$ companies are starting to at least look at unix style solutions.
With all the legal stuff happining to M$ right now M$ does not appear as "stable" for bussiness solutions as it did a few years ago. I know the courts won't do anything to change M$ dramaticly ( even if they do appeals will keep it from happening for years) but bussinesses that depend on M$ are starting to hedge there bets.
When I went to school the question was about calculators.
A lot of the most inovative software has been writtin by very young people. Their minds are more open.
Every kid needs a computer while in school. Some kids need it to learn how to function in bussiness and some kids need it to write the next generation of software that makes bussiness function.
Corporations are in bussiness to make money, thier stock holders demand it. This makes it hard for them to compete if they are paying more for labor than their competitors. (i.e paying a fair wage)
I think a lot of the companies based around OSS are a little better at "giving back to the community" but as that segment matures they will start cutting costs. (or they will be put out of bussiness by their competitors)
I as a consumer of computer products would "perfer" to buy my products from companies that "give back" but I am not willing to pay a premium for it.
I think it is easier to boycott companies that are really bad (ie slave labor) than to support companies that are "giving back".
"and release the source code for their Starships' OS."
Then you would have to release the source to Gene Rodonberry's wife (shes the voice of the computer)..... and I don't think you really want to see that.
Please keep in mind that the laws that allow the police to basicly get away with what they to me were created to "protect" the police department personal and witnesses from harm.
They just also happen to allow the police to do searches without having to justify them unless they charge someone.
This allows our police (and maybe yours) to raid a whole block or several homes to find an ileagal activity.
Police are trained to push all laws to the limit to help him stop crime (they are the "good" guys after all and criminals don't follow the laws so the police need all the tools and tricks they can find, just ask one.)
Any time you give the police any way to make their job easier they will take it.
You want to be VERY carefull when giving the police ways to make thier jobs easier.
BTW had the press forced the police to disclose the information about the raid on my house I would probably be able to sue them (the police) and had my employer required me to take a drug test or I was denied credit it would be even easier.
"Just as it's not my job to make it easier for the police to investigate a crime, it's not the police's job to make it easier for reporters to cover stories."
That's exactly what a cop's job is. That's one of the things that seperate us (The US) from countries like China. The Police in the US are public servants. They are accountable to the pubic .
I know from personal experince what can happen when we lose rights to make our police publicly accountable.
In Florida (as in some other states) we are at "war" with drugs. I did not fully understand what that ment till my local police department did an armed raid on my house. Because they they did not arrest or charge anyone (or find anything ilegal) we cannot force them to release the search warrent info. We could force them only if they charged me or my family with a crime because only then would they have to prove grounds for a search warrant
Because no one was hurt (although getting thrown to the ground and a shotgun put to your head is a little trumatic) We cannot sue them for damages.
Police not having to report and account for what they do is a BAD THING.
It seems to me that if you allow people to post with (almost) total ananomity then freenet will will become the defacto standard for accessing warez, child porn, illegal MP3's etc. [insert your favorite illegal thing here].
I read your FAQ's "1.5. Won't Freenet be a haven for criminals and pirates?"
It does touch on this but does not cover the problem of Freenet becoming over run with warez, porn, etc.
It would be sad if any gains you made in promoting freedom of speech were overshadowed by these problems.
It's important to have your facts straight in a well thought up hoax....
"Experts say the recent "break-ins" that paralyzed the Amazon.com, Buy.com and eBAY websites are tame compared to what will happen in the near future."
"breakin"? I thought they were DDOS attacks..
"Computer expert Arnold Yabenson..."
WTF is Arnold Yabenson? Better to use a big name.
"There are brilliant but unscrupulous hackers out there who have developed technologies that the average person can't even dream of."
Sounds like a typical slashdot reader..
"It is already possible for an assassin to send someone an e-mail with an innocent-looking attachment connected to it. When the receiver downloads the attachment, the electrical current and molecular structure of the central processing unit is altered, causing it to blast apart like a large hand grenade. "
Is'nt that what happens when you try to download and install Netscape on Windows 98 SR1?
"Vandalized FBI and U. S. Army websites. "
Script kiddies....
"Broken into Chinese military networks."
Winnuke?
Come within two digits of cracking an 87-digit Russian security code that would have sent deadly missiles hurtling toward five of America's major cities.
How would you know that you came within 2 digits if you did'nt crack it? (don't even go there..)
"Soon it will be sold to terrorists cults and fanatical religious-fringe groups.
windows 2000...
"Instead of blowing up a single plane, these groups will be able to patch into the central computer of a large airline and blow up hundreds of planes at once.
windows 2000 networked
"And worse, this e-mail bomb program will eventually find its way into the hands of anyone who wants it.
Damnit where is there mailling list, I want my copy!
"That means anyone who has a quarrel with you, holds a grudge against you or just plain doesn't like your looks, can kill you and never be found out."
Bill Gates seems to be pulling that of fine right now.
"Also: What makes Linux such a kick-arse dev platform? Isn't win with perl, mysql, httpd and djgpp just as good?"
No...
If it was Mircosoft would would run thier hotmail servers on windows.
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I had the same problem. I sent there tech support an email about as well.
Re:not quite right to compare software to music...
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I disagree Doc..
"Rap music, like all music, is just a fad... something that will go away eventually and only be looked back on with fondness by a select group of people.
You mean like the games for the Atari,DOS..[ put your favoite old game platform/OS Here]?
"Linux, however, is much more than that. It opened up a whole new world for the people that had the patience and knowledge to adopt it."
Sounds just like learning to play Jazz....
"Due to Linux, they didn't have to sit back and take whatever the big software companies threw at them... they could dive right in and tweak to their hearts delight."
Kinda sounds like the same thing musicans say about being able to offer original music over the 'net and not having to go thru a big record company.
I read that it cost about $42 million a month just to maintain these.
Right now they have about 50,000 customers
Do the math... if you double your customers to a 100,000 they would need to each be paying $420 a month before you would even start to cover the maintince costs.
If you increased your customer base to 1,000,000 they would have to paying $42.00 a month to cover maintince.
As I remember the phone is somewhat bulky and only works outside. I think you would have to totaly redesign the phone before you would get a million peple to buy them.
Even then I don't think you could be competitive with regular cell phone companies. Your phone would have more range but would only work outside. Only people who really need to service are going to want it and those 50,000 already have it.
Oh well....
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I am still waiting for it to be emailed to me. Barnes & Noble just sent me this (3 hours later)
"Re: Free Stephen King story
Thanks! Your email address has been received.
Because of the phenomenal response to this offer, we are experiencing a delay in delivering RIDING THE BULLET to you. We are working closely with our partners to resolve issues of capacity, and we ensure that you will receive a free download of the King story as promised.
We'll send you an email with more info as soon as possible."
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Other uses...
1. Tracking bracklets for parolies
2. Tracking for traveling employees
3. They are aready using it in cars,
It won't be long before you will find them
in radios for ad use.
4. Cell phones for kids that track their
movements.
"... that 1.4 million metallica songs were downloaded.. and only 1 unsigned artist mp3 was
downloaded in the span of 48 hrs.. "
14,000,000:1 no sir, don't buy it. More than
one song would have by accident.
"...whose brain-damaged idea was it to make 'new computer' Win95 distributions only install properly if you've re-formatted the C: drive? "
You can use the 'new computer' Win95/98 disk for upgrading if you delete "win.com" from the windows dir and windows/system dir first.
I just posted this to give M$ another post to bitch about.
Can I have the old boxes?
"Now it is my belief that anyone who engages in any criminal acts should not be praised for what they did, and they certainly shouldn't be allowed to make any money from it. After all, look at the outrage when a serial killer or murderer writes a book and publishes it. But when it's Kevin Mitnick, "information hero", /.ers are full of
outrage when he's not allowed to make money from his infamy."
I agree that Kevin needed to be punished for his crimes. But it is not right to compare him to serial killers. He has something to add to socity and should be permited to do that.
Kevin will go back to working in the computer field when he has competed his probation (he has said that himself)
It does not appear to me that they are forbiding him from lecuring because he is a threat or because of the "son of sam laws" but simply to punish him more.
Think about this a minute. Kevin is trying to make himself productive the only way he (legaly) knows how to. If you forbid ex-crimminals from becoming productive citizens what do you think they are going to do? He is not going to work at a meanial job very long before he starts looking at ways to make money though more questionable means.
I think the whole idea of not allowing him access to computers after his release was kind of silly in the first place. This will just make his resolve to get back into the tech field stronger.
Kevin was not a great hacker but now he has a reputation as one because of his crimminal convicion. People tend to rise to greatness because they feel driven to. Kevin has that drive now. Give him a chance
I just took a job with a company this week that is currently a microsoft house. I had the same debate you did.
:-)
(Apache vs IIS)
The company desided it was in thier best interest to have both and hired me. I think even most die hard M$ companies are starting to at least look at unix style solutions.
With all the legal stuff happining to M$ right now M$ does not appear as "stable" for bussiness solutions as it did a few years ago. I know the courts won't do anything to change M$ dramaticly ( even if they do appeals will keep it from happening for years) but bussinesses that depend on M$ are starting to hedge there bets.
Looks like FUD can work both ways
I sell services and solutions....not software.
This allows me to use open source software, improve it, (or bastardize it) and give my clients a more cost effective solution.
I make more money.
The customer pays less.
I add to the overall OSS software base.
Life is good.
$30,000 for a palmtop computer, a GPS, Satelite phone and Laser binoculars?
Perhaps whey should add a digital watch and make the cost an even $50,000 per solder.
I guess if you are going to outfit them like borg then Microsoft would be the best software to use.
"If you're compromised, you erase the system, that's easy to do. If worse comes to worse, you could just break it."
It's going to be real hard to erase or break it if your DEAD!
Our military frightens me....
When I went to school the question was about calculators.
A lot of the most inovative software has been writtin by very young people. Their minds are more open.
Every kid needs a computer while in school. Some kids need it to learn how to function in bussiness and some kids need it to write the next generation of software that makes bussiness function.
If you think people were confused about your post look at the way mine was moderated.
Makes good sence to me
Moderation Totals:Flamebait=2, Interesting=2, Funny=1, Total=5.
Perhaps a new tag is needed.
<big clue>
It was a silly joke
</big clue>
Corporations are in bussiness to make money, thier
stock holders demand it. This makes it hard for them to compete if they are paying more for labor than their competitors. (i.e paying a fair wage)
I think a lot of the companies based around OSS are a little better at "giving back to the community" but as that segment matures they will start cutting costs. (or they will be put out of bussiness by their competitors)
I as a consumer of computer products would "perfer" to buy my products from companies that "give back" but I am not willing to pay a premium for it.
I think it is easier to boycott companies that are really bad (ie slave labor) than to support companies that are "giving back".
(although I am open to new ideas)
Microsoft and Christianity have a lot in common.
"Closed source"
We were not meant to understand everything God does.
"FUD"
We were not meant understand god's will but if we don't follow God's will we go to hell.
"Monopoly"
"Worship no other Gods but me"
Need I say more?
"By attaching arrays of spinning organic molecules to the surface of a standard silicon wafer"
Organic..Does this mean we will have "cyborg" computers? This could give "cyber porn" a whole new meaning in a few years.....
"and release the source
code for their Starships' OS."
Then you would have to release the source to Gene Rodonberry's wife (shes the voice of the computer)..... and I don't think you really want to see that.
Please keep in mind that the laws that allow the police to basicly get away with what they to me were created to "protect" the police department personal and witnesses from harm.
They just also happen to allow the police to do
searches without having to justify
them unless they charge someone.
This allows our police (and maybe yours) to raid a
whole block or several homes to find an ileagal activity.
Police are trained to push all laws to the limit to help him stop crime (they are the "good" guys after all and criminals don't follow the laws so the police need all the tools and tricks they can find, just ask one.)
Any time you give the police any way to make their job easier they will take it.
You want to be VERY carefull when giving the police ways to make thier jobs easier.
BTW had the press forced the police to disclose the information about the raid on my house I would probably be able to sue them (the police) and had my employer required me to take a drug test or I was denied credit it would be even easier.
"Just as it's not my job to make it easier for the police to investigate a crime, it's not the police's job to make it easier for reporters to cover stories."
That's exactly what a cop's job is. That's one of the things that seperate us (The US) from countries like China. The Police in the US are public servants. They are accountable to the pubic .
I know from personal experince what can happen when we lose rights to make our police publicly accountable.
In Florida (as in some other states) we are at "war" with drugs. I did not fully understand what that ment till my local police department did an armed raid on my house. Because they they did not arrest or charge anyone (or find anything ilegal)
we cannot force them to release the search warrent info. We could force them only if they charged me or my family with a crime because only then would they have to prove grounds for a search warrant
Because no one was hurt (although getting thrown to the ground and a shotgun put to your head is a little trumatic) We cannot sue them for damages.
Police not having to report and account for what they do is a BAD THING.
It seems to me that if you allow people to post with (almost) total ananomity then freenet will
will become the defacto standard for accessing warez, child porn, illegal MP3's etc. [insert your favorite illegal thing here].
I read your FAQ's
"1.5. Won't Freenet be a haven for criminals and pirates?"
It does touch on this but does not cover the problem of Freenet becoming over run with warez, porn, etc.
It would be sad if any gains you made in promoting freedom of speech were overshadowed by these problems.
Do you have any plans to deal with this?
"The space station has been empty since it was placed on autopilot seven months
ago."
I feel sorry for those guys... You know it's got to
smell real funny in there.
It's important to have your facts straight in a well thought up hoax....
"Experts say the recent "break-ins" that paralyzed the Amazon.com, Buy.com and eBAY websites are tame compared to what will happen in the near future."
"breakin"? I thought they were DDOS attacks..
"Computer expert Arnold Yabenson..."
WTF is Arnold Yabenson? Better to use a big name.
"There are brilliant but unscrupulous hackers out there who have developed technologies that the average person can't even dream of."
Sounds like a typical slashdot reader..
"It is already possible for an assassin to send someone an e-mail with an innocent-looking attachment connected to it. When the receiver downloads the attachment, the electrical current and molecular structure of the central processing unit is altered, causing it to blast apart like a large hand grenade. "
Is'nt that what happens when you try to download and install Netscape on Windows 98 SR1?
"Vandalized FBI and U. S. Army websites. "
Script kiddies....
"Broken into Chinese military networks."
Winnuke?
Come within two digits of cracking an 87-digit Russian security code that would have sent deadly missiles hurtling toward five of America's major cities.
How would you know that you came within 2 digits if you did'nt crack it? (don't even go there..)
"Soon it will be sold to terrorists cults and fanatical religious-fringe groups.
windows 2000...
"Instead of blowing up a single plane, these groups will be able to patch into the central computer of a large airline and blow up hundreds of planes at once.
windows 2000 networked
"And worse, this e-mail bomb program will eventually find its way into the hands of anyone who wants it.
Damnit where is there mailling list, I want my copy!
"That means anyone who has a quarrel with you, holds a grudge against you or just plain doesn't like your looks, can kill you and never be found out."
Bill Gates seems to be pulling that of fine right now.
Sorry, It just feels like a M$ bashing day....
"Also: What makes Linux such a kick-arse dev platform? Isn't win with perl, mysql, httpd and djgpp just as
good?"
No...
If it was Mircosoft would would run thier
hotmail servers on windows.
I had the same problem. I sent there tech support an email about as well.
I disagree Doc..
"Rap music, like all music, is just a fad... something that will go away
eventually and only be looked back on with fondness by a select group of people.
You mean like the games for the Atari,DOS..[ put your favoite old game platform/OS Here]?
"Linux, however, is much more than that. It opened up a whole new world for the people that had the
patience and knowledge to adopt it."
Sounds just like learning to play Jazz....
"Due to Linux, they didn't have to sit back and take whatever the
big software companies threw at them... they could dive right in and tweak to their hearts delight."
Kinda sounds like the same thing musicans say about being able to offer original music over the 'net and not having to go thru a big record company.
It says the keyboard is free....I wonder if we can
find another use for the aol buttons....
I read that it cost about $42 million a month
just to maintain these.
Right now they have about 50,000 customers
Do the math...
if you double your customers to a 100,000 they
would need to each be paying $420 a month before
you would even start to cover the maintince costs.
If you increased your customer base to 1,000,000
they would have to paying $42.00 a month to cover
maintince.
As I remember the phone is somewhat bulky and
only works outside. I think you would have to totaly redesign the phone before you would get
a million peple to buy them.
Even then I don't think you could be competitive
with regular cell phone companies. Your phone would have more range but would only work outside. Only people who really need to service are going to want it and those 50,000 already have it.
Oh well....
I am still waiting for it to be emailed to me. Barnes & Noble just sent me this (3 hours later)
"Re: Free Stephen King story
Thanks! Your email address has been received.
Because of the phenomenal response to this offer, we are experiencing a
delay in delivering RIDING THE BULLET to you.
We are working closely with our partners to resolve issues of capacity,
and we ensure that you will receive a free download of the King story as
promised.
We'll send you an email with more info as soon as possible."
I can wait...