I suggest you take 15 minutes out of your life (vs > 45 min for Win X) & do an Ubuntu installation. The only potential user hurdles are because it has to be installed- it it came on the machine there wouldn't be much difference between it & Windows. I say this because I've installed it for Joe non-technical user and they're fine with it.
This is the case now- not some nebulous prediction.
Make the spamfiltering function somebody elses problem- either a service (Mailwise) or appliance.
Software? Cyrus IMAP + Postfix.
Hardware? Something high density... perhaps opteron based IBM blades? Clustered on some linux distro that IBM would provide a support contract for. I've also been looking at 64bit HPC stuff from Terrasoft solutions on Mercury HW- very intriguing.
Odd that this comes on the tail of hydrogen fuel pellets & laptop supercomputers... Come on, we know you're out there- go ahead- post the perpetual motion machine plans.
Is it just me or is/. teetering on the brink of being inconsequential? Anybody want to bet the #1 referrering page at snopes.com is/.?
I'm not so sure that's necessarily true. The last couple of decades has seen significant evolution int he way systems are architected. Linear procedural programming on mainframes is a far mindset from the client/server, n-tier, object oriented environments of today.
The vast majority of users will only ever use the operating system that came installed on their PC. It's my understanding that MS uses it's clout to discourage vendors from shipping systems with anything but MS o/s'. That is how Linux, or other o/s', are locked out.
I don't believe that's the way it will go. If history has taught us anything, it has taught us that the solution with the largest marketing budget will win.
Jeeze- a quick scan of the top of the list didn't show any of these gargantuan boxes running Windows. There were however a significant number running Linux. (4 of top 6). Not taking sides or anything (smirk), just an observation.
I suggest we all let know what we think of this kind of journalism. While there journalists may not care about responsibile journalism, the editors are intelligent enough to make it easy to send them feedback.
If you're painting a fairy tale world for those who consume press releases as news, why not espouse the demise of Linux & OSS as well?
I think he's just grumpy because some voices have said the same thing about MS. His response seems more like playground politics.
I've submitted my patent application for storing addresses in a varchar(255). I suggest if anybody's storing a certain type of data in a certain data structure they act quickly.
I'm an Italian-American. I just wanted to point out a parallel between a potential MS' conflict of interest and some historically undeniable business models adopted by some of our less than honorable countrymen.
Does anybody else feel like they're being visited by italian-americans with baseball bats, strongly urging they pay their dues to a community association that ensures they're windows and legs don't get broken?
I was in the military for 8 years- I didn't love sporks. But your point is taken- it's more efficient. My point was that efficieny aside, sometimes people like to have functions in separate boxes. As some of the posted responses here bear out.
I'm not sure they'd care if 95% of the existing linux users would never use their distro. It would just be what they'd ship their boxes out with- creating more new linux users. What's the down side of a Dell distro being open source? Yes, it would be a drain on resources, but it would be supplanting the cost of paying for MS lic's. It also might be easier for them to tailor their own distro to The Dell Way then to coordinate with another vendor.
Couldn't $100M just as easily have bought him the infrastructure to launch his own distro? Dellinux, Dellibian, Dellux(e), etc... That would have been an interesting precedent to set.
That timing will work out great. W/in the next three years Google should just about have completed their global database containing everything about everybody. They'll be an ideal service provider for the federal gov't in producing these ID's.
Shouldn't there be some level of accountability for the company though (ala guns, cigs, alcohol, etc)? Don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge fan of bigGov and legislation creeping into everything but IMHO its unrealistic to expect average users to be reponsible for their own security.
I think shipping a product that, taken out of the box and connected to the internet as is, stops working in very short order is negligent. If I bought a toaster I think I should be reasonable able to make toast with it for at least a few weeks before it spontaneously combusted without buying any toaster protection devices or having to read tomes of information about toaster security theory.
I concur. Along the same line, it seems to me that three dimensional desktop models (zoomable, pannable, etc) should also be able to leverage the increased RAM. ref: The 'Angel' interface from Crichton's Disclosure being the sci-fi view into the future of where several current prototypes are headed.
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I suggest you take 15 minutes out of your life (vs > 45 min for Win X) & do an Ubuntu installation. The only potential user hurdles are because it has to be installed- it it came on the machine there wouldn't be much difference between it & Windows. I say this because I've installed it for Joe non-technical user and they're fine with it.
This is the case now- not some nebulous prediction.
Make the spamfiltering function somebody elses problem- either a service (Mailwise) or appliance.
... perhaps opteron based IBM blades? Clustered on some linux distro that IBM would provide a support contract for. I've also been looking at 64bit HPC stuff from Terrasoft solutions on Mercury HW- very intriguing.
Software? Cyrus IMAP + Postfix.
Hardware? Something high density
Odd that this comes on the tail of hydrogen fuel pellets & laptop supercomputers ... Come on, we know you're out there- go ahead- post the perpetual motion machine plans.
/. teetering on the brink of being inconsequential? Anybody want to bet the #1 referrering page at snopes.com is /.?
Is it just me or is
I'm not so sure that's necessarily true. The last couple of decades has seen significant evolution int he way systems are architected. Linear procedural programming on mainframes is a far mindset from the client/server, n-tier, object oriented environments of today.
The vast majority of users will only ever use the operating system that came installed on their PC. It's my understanding that MS uses it's clout to discourage vendors from shipping systems with anything but MS o/s'. That is how Linux, or other o/s', are locked out.
is, is this one of the 33% of studies that are inaccurate? c.f: http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/07/1 3/2255243&tid=99&tid=14
I don't believe that's the way it will go. If history has taught us anything, it has taught us that the solution with the largest marketing budget will win.
doesn't it just mean the end of DoubleClick? Won't that be a shame.
Jeeze- a quick scan of the top of the list didn't show any of these gargantuan boxes running Windows. There were however a significant number running Linux. (4 of top 6). Not taking sides or anything (smirk), just an observation.
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If you're painting a fairy tale world for those who consume press releases as news, why not espouse the demise of Linux & OSS as well?
I think he's just grumpy because some voices have said the same thing about MS. His response seems more like playground politics.
I've submitted my patent application for storing addresses in a varchar(255). I suggest if anybody's storing a certain type of data in a certain data structure they act quickly.
I'm an Italian-American. I just wanted to point out a parallel between a potential MS' conflict of interest and some historically undeniable business models adopted by some of our less than honorable countrymen.
Does anybody else feel like they're being visited by italian-americans with baseball bats, strongly urging they pay their dues to a community association that ensures they're windows and legs don't get broken?
I'm not sure I follow your logic.
"Lets face it, a trojan, worm or whatever isn't going to use this obscure method"
Why not?!
"And why would someone target your PC unless you had some really valuable information. They wouldn't."
Some significant % of the millions of potentially vulnerable PC's out there do have really valuable information on them...
I was in the military for 8 years- I didn't love sporks. But your point is taken- it's more efficient. My point was that efficieny aside, sometimes people like to have functions in separate boxes. As some of the posted responses here bear out.
Longhorn will slowly be replaced out by operating system that's are actually released.
Now that's what I call "long division."
I'm not sure they'd care if 95% of the existing linux users would never use their distro. It would just be what they'd ship their boxes out with- creating more new linux users. What's the down side of a Dell distro being open source? Yes, it would be a drain on resources, but it would be supplanting the cost of paying for MS lic's. It also might be easier for them to tailor their own distro to The Dell Way then to coordinate with another vendor.
Couldn't $100M just as easily have bought him the infrastructure to launch his own distro? Dellinux, Dellibian, Dellux(e), etc... That would have been an interesting precedent to set.
That timing will work out great. W/in the next three years Google should just about have completed their global database containing everything about everybody. They'll be an ideal service provider for the federal gov't in producing these ID's.
I think shipping a product that, taken out of the box and connected to the internet as is, stops working in very short order is negligent. If I bought a toaster I think I should be reasonable able to make toast with it for at least a few weeks before it spontaneously combusted without buying any toaster protection devices or having to read tomes of information about toaster security theory.
they left off the radix, it's 191000
Your little sister develops operating systems? That's so cool. Mine works at a donut shop.
I concur. Along the same line, it seems to me that three dimensional desktop models (zoomable, pannable, etc) should also be able to leverage the increased RAM. ref: The 'Angel' interface from Crichton's Disclosure being the sci-fi view into the future of where several current prototypes are headed.