It's reasonable for an artist to expect to be able to profit from their work for a period of time. Protecting that right encourages others to spend the time to create similar work.
The problem is that now that "period of time" is effectively forever, which is bullshit. Those works become a part of the collective culture of a society and it's not right for corporations to continue to hold an intellectual monopoly on those works, long after the original artists have died.
It's faintly conceivable that he may be attempting to assert that p2p distribution provides a positive benefit to the copyright holder in the form of increased exposure.
In other words, that P2P is the worlds most efficient viral marketing campaign.
The plus is, p2p is non-commercial, and non-commercial use is usually considered favorably. The minus is, the entire product (which has a monetary value) is being distributed against the express wishes of the copyright holder. That's usually considered a bad thing.
It's more accurate to say "Climate Change"; unusually cold years are also possible.
I'm not sold on the doomsayers, but most climate scientists agree that SOMETHING is going on, and CO2 levels are a strong possible cause. I'm trying to be open-minded in the face of the media frenzy.
If you dig in Windows, there are functions and 3rd party apps that fill a lot of those niches.
Still, file handling and process management are far far cleaner in Unix/Linux. The problems come in with commands that you don't use very often. There are a lot of commands in Unix that make things extremely simple: but figuring out what those commands are is the work of a lifetime.
Well, it is reasonable to look to other planets for comparison when events happen on a planetary scale.
However, looking at a gas giant is a bit of a stretch. There are basically no points of congruence between a supermassive ball of gaseous, liquid, and metallic hydrogen, and a tiny ball of rock with a thin scrim of water on the top.
It's a fricking storm. It's subject to entropy like everything else. Eventually, it will go away.
It's the scale that's messing with your head. That storm is about the same diameter as the entire Earth. It only seems permanent because it's so big that change happens slowly.
Says that the OSS community doesn't really care about Groupware, which is something I've been saying for years and years.
How I'd love to drop Exchange for good. Wow, what a dream. And people always go nuts when you say something like, "I had to have Exchange."
They say stupid shit like, "D00d U shuld use Evolution," which just misses the entire point of Exchange...
Sigh. Old rant. Anyway, I agree with you. To throw stones at another sacred cow, fricking OpenOffice still needs a lot of work. Exchange, Office, and a good web browser are the three things we have to have, and we've only really got 1 of 3.
I change things occasionally. This instantly creates what I'll call a "dead fork".
You send the code back, maybe it gets incorporated into the project, but maybe not. If not, then your custom addition is a perpetual pain in the ass, because you'll have to add it back in every time you update the software.
God help you if you move on, because all the people trying to support your stuff will have more trouble with those changed apps than anything else you leave.
Unix and Linux are different, but it's not enough to mindjob you. Logs are in/var/adm instead of/var/log. ps has different flags. Old unix systems don't have commands like "less" (though, at least with old Solaris, they do have "more". Go figure.) Everything is still piled in/etc. All the userspace stuff is still in/usr/local/. Unless you're using MPE/iX, you're probably going to be okay.
I've had plenty of bad forum experiences though. Sometimes even educated users need help, and the Unix learning curve is such that you can use it for years and still not know some things.
Still, I've had crap experiences on Windows forums as well, and Mac forums are of little practical use.
Unix and Linux are just hard. You have to dig in, and work at it. You gotta ditch the GUI, because the GUI isn't reliable (especially in Linux) for managing and configuring daemons (I don't think it's that reliable in Windows either (Fuck you IIS 7), but there isn't a good alternative.)
The only way to do it is to sit and play with it. I've never had a really really good unix course; they're all so short, it's just a bare taste.
Agreed. You see tons and tons of screenshots, and yea the "user experience" videos on youtube and ubuntu fan sites. What does that have to do with anything? If all you were selling was something that looked cool, those might be useful.
I have to admit, the fanbois are making me homicidal.
I LOVE Linux. I love plain old Unix. I love the command line, and the cryptic commands, and man pages, and lynx and apt/yum. I like X windows and MC. I love building from source. The whole environment is clean, somehow. It's got a sort of serenity for me that I don't see very often in my job.
And yet...It's just a tool. It's a good tool. It's my favorite tool. But it's just a tool. There is room for improvement, and, like any tool, there are places where it's not useful.
The thing that drives me nuts is the pure unthinking zealotry. I got started on old proprietary unix, and while linux has more zest and more wild features, there are things that were worthwhile in the old systems. But if you say that, then you get slapped down as a heretic.
Everything benefits from criticism, so in that sense, he's right, but really Linux has plenty of critics. Install linux for someone who is used to something else, and you'll get plenty of criticisms. What I think Linux needs is the same thing I think Mac needs and Windows needs: the people on the inside need to start listening to people who aren't already sold on their product. We have just as many fanbois as the Mac and Windows people, and we've got some of that persecution complex that makes the fanbois extra loathesome.
Just calm down, take a breath, go use something different for a while. Get some perspective. The real zealots make it harder for me to sell *nix solutions to the phbs because they're coming to expect a bias.
Yea, but yeast molecules and...Huh. Nvrmind, I just edjumucated myself. (I thought that blood cells played a role in transporting glucose like they do oxygen, which is apparently not the case).
Yeast is about the same size as a red blood cell (~6 micrometers, though some yeasts are as big as 10micrometers) which should be substantially bigger than a mere simple sugar.
I'd prefer "Does not imply causation, which is what they actually mean.
In deductive logic the fallacy would be Affirming the Consequent, which is taking a causal relationship and inverting it to assert the existence of the cause from the existence of the effect.
There is no evidence that he really wants to prosecute on those charges. IIRC he was using the threat of those charges to try and force the kids to enroll in a 6-week course that would "teach" them why their behaviour was self-destructive and wrong.
The defendants and their parents are fighting it because they object to the course, and believe that the behaviour is largely innocent (the course requires a paper to be written by the kids about why what they did was morally wrong, and that paper was mentioned about a zillion times). The objection is framed in terms of the 1st and 14th amendments (not sure if I'm right on the 14th, isn't that civil rights?).
I actually read the pdf of the judges decision, so I'm pretty sure about the prosecution bit. The judge even referenced it in his argument: he said something like, "If the DA hasn't felt the need to file yet, then there is clearly no problem so pressing that he can't wait until we've had an actual hearing."
That was basically what the judge ruled, with the additional point that the statute of limitations on his charges was 12 years, so there was no benefit leaving him free to basically use the threat of prosecution as blackmail.
They're also profiting off of it themselves. Google is not the best example, obviously, because there are no ads on the Google News site, but most other aggregators use ads to drive profit for themselves (including Slashdot).
And, arguably, a deep-linked article removes all the page views for the main page, etc.
It's a grey issue. Obviously newpapers are a bit pissy that their content is basically the business model for everyone else, when they're struggling, and it's not like you think "Wow this is such a good article, I should come to this site again." You think, "Wow, this is such a good aggregator! I should come here more often!"
Just from my own experience, the bulk of our aggregator traffic is blurby weird news. Some huge expose on a regional hospital doesn't compete with the proverbial five-assed monkey article.
Dude, it's sitting around in heavy armor. There aren't a whole lot of options.
But, say I agreed with you. The first thing I'd have to do is go out and kill all their natural predators, because, obviously, a minute in boiling water beats the crap out of being slowly picked to death, or being digested alive, or being picked up and repeatedly dashed against rocks.
Most organisms end their lives in blinding pain. Death usually isn't fun.
Did you know if you dump some instant grits on a fire ant mound the workers will take them in and feed them to the queen, and that she will then die as they slowly expand in her body, leaving her foul spawn to wither and die leaving an empty hellmound full of nothing but silence and despair?
Good stuff.
Incidentally, they kill scallops the same way as lobsters: by dumping them in boiling water. It's quick, and about as humane as it gets for something that can't otherwise be killed without wasting the meat.
Well semantically, the difference between "Experiencing pain" and "Displaying pain behaviours" is so thin as to be non-existent. Might as well assume they're the same thing.
As the same time, I agree with you. Nearly every living thing has a stimulus response to being damaged, including many plants. You have to draw the line somewhere.
Besides, what's the alternative? Whacking the head off with a cleaver first? It'll still flop around. If they didn't want to be killed by immersion in boiling water, they should have skipped the ol' exoskeleton.
News to me. I'm sure it'll be news to the 2 man state capitol bureau I walked through yesterday too that all their content doesn't come from the 5 major papers in the state, but instead from the 4 semi-retired reporters they buy a story a month from.
I'm sure if someone found it in their heart to offer an 8 figure buyout to a CEO of a newspaper corporation, they'd take it. In a heartbeat.
That'll never happen. We're not talking bankers here, we're talking people who work for a living, and while the quality of their work is similarly shitty, the golden parachute has a lot less luster. The only way they're getting paid is if they stay employed, so they'll hold on to their job as tight as they can.
Yea, but that only benefits the users of the site. All it will take to get them shut down (in Sweden) is a judge deciding that they are acting in bad faith to promote IP theft.
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It's reasonable for an artist to expect to be able to profit from their work for a period of time. Protecting that right encourages others to spend the time to create similar work.
The problem is that now that "period of time" is effectively forever, which is bullshit. Those works become a part of the collective culture of a society and it's not right for corporations to continue to hold an intellectual monopoly on those works, long after the original artists have died.
It's faintly conceivable that he may be attempting to assert that p2p distribution provides a positive benefit to the copyright holder in the form of increased exposure.
In other words, that P2P is the worlds most efficient viral marketing campaign.
The plus is, p2p is non-commercial, and non-commercial use is usually considered favorably. The minus is, the entire product (which has a monetary value) is being distributed against the express wishes of the copyright holder. That's usually considered a bad thing.
It's more accurate to say "Climate Change"; unusually cold years are also possible.
I'm not sold on the doomsayers, but most climate scientists agree that SOMETHING is going on, and CO2 levels are a strong possible cause. I'm trying to be open-minded in the face of the media frenzy.
If you dig in Windows, there are functions and 3rd party apps that fill a lot of those niches.
Still, file handling and process management are far far cleaner in Unix/Linux. The problems come in with commands that you don't use very often. There are a lot of commands in Unix that make things extremely simple: but figuring out what those commands are is the work of a lifetime.
Yea, I misread. It's the eye, the darker spot in the middle, that's the diameter of earth. Heh.
Well, it is reasonable to look to other planets for comparison when events happen on a planetary scale.
However, looking at a gas giant is a bit of a stretch. There are basically no points of congruence between a supermassive ball of gaseous, liquid, and metallic hydrogen, and a tiny ball of rock with a thin scrim of water on the top.
It's a fricking storm. It's subject to entropy like everything else. Eventually, it will go away.
It's the scale that's messing with your head. That storm is about the same diameter as the entire Earth. It only seems permanent because it's so big that change happens slowly.
Says that the OSS community doesn't really care about Groupware, which is something I've been saying for years and years.
How I'd love to drop Exchange for good. Wow, what a dream. And people always go nuts when you say something like, "I had to have Exchange."
They say stupid shit like, "D00d U shuld use Evolution," which just misses the entire point of Exchange...
Sigh. Old rant. Anyway, I agree with you. To throw stones at another sacred cow, fricking OpenOffice still needs a lot of work. Exchange, Office, and a good web browser are the three things we have to have, and we've only really got 1 of 3.
And yet no.
I change things occasionally. This instantly creates what I'll call a "dead fork".
You send the code back, maybe it gets incorporated into the project, but maybe not. If not, then your custom addition is a perpetual pain in the ass, because you'll have to add it back in every time you update the software.
God help you if you move on, because all the people trying to support your stuff will have more trouble with those changed apps than anything else you leave.
Unix and Linux are different, but it's not enough to mindjob you. Logs are in /var/adm instead of /var/log. ps has different flags. Old unix systems don't have commands like "less" (though, at least with old Solaris, they do have "more". Go figure.) Everything is still piled in /etc. All the userspace stuff is still in /usr/local/. Unless you're using MPE/iX, you're probably going to be okay.
I've had plenty of bad forum experiences though. Sometimes even educated users need help, and the Unix learning curve is such that you can use it for years and still not know some things.
Still, I've had crap experiences on Windows forums as well, and Mac forums are of little practical use.
Unix and Linux are just hard. You have to dig in, and work at it. You gotta ditch the GUI, because the GUI isn't reliable (especially in Linux) for managing and configuring daemons (I don't think it's that reliable in Windows either (Fuck you IIS 7), but there isn't a good alternative.)
The only way to do it is to sit and play with it. I've never had a really really good unix course; they're all so short, it's just a bare taste.
Agreed. You see tons and tons of screenshots, and yea the "user experience" videos on youtube and ubuntu fan sites. What does that have to do with anything? If all you were selling was something that looked cool, those might be useful.
I have to admit, the fanbois are making me homicidal.
I LOVE Linux. I love plain old Unix. I love the command line, and the cryptic commands, and man pages, and lynx and apt/yum. I like X windows and MC. I love building from source. The whole environment is clean, somehow. It's got a sort of serenity for me that I don't see very often in my job.
And yet...It's just a tool. It's a good tool. It's my favorite tool. But it's just a tool. There is room for improvement, and, like any tool, there are places where it's not useful.
The thing that drives me nuts is the pure unthinking zealotry. I got started on old proprietary unix, and while linux has more zest and more wild features, there are things that were worthwhile in the old systems. But if you say that, then you get slapped down as a heretic.
Everything benefits from criticism, so in that sense, he's right, but really Linux has plenty of critics. Install linux for someone who is used to something else, and you'll get plenty of criticisms. What I think Linux needs is the same thing I think Mac needs and Windows needs: the people on the inside need to start listening to people who aren't already sold on their product. We have just as many fanbois as the Mac and Windows people, and we've got some of that persecution complex that makes the fanbois extra loathesome.
Just calm down, take a breath, go use something different for a while. Get some perspective. The real zealots make it harder for me to sell *nix solutions to the phbs because they're coming to expect a bias.
Yea, but yeast molecules and...Huh. Nvrmind, I just edjumucated myself. (I thought that blood cells played a role in transporting glucose like they do oxygen, which is apparently not the case).
Yeast is about the same size as a red blood cell (~6 micrometers, though some yeasts are as big as 10micrometers) which should be substantially bigger than a mere simple sugar.
I'd prefer "Does not imply causation, which is what they actually mean.
In deductive logic the fallacy would be Affirming the Consequent, which is taking a causal relationship and inverting it to assert the existence of the cause from the existence of the effect.
A->B
B
Therefore A
There is no evidence that he really wants to prosecute on those charges. IIRC he was using the threat of those charges to try and force the kids to enroll in a 6-week course that would "teach" them why their behaviour was self-destructive and wrong.
The defendants and their parents are fighting it because they object to the course, and believe that the behaviour is largely innocent (the course requires a paper to be written by the kids about why what they did was morally wrong, and that paper was mentioned about a zillion times). The objection is framed in terms of the 1st and 14th amendments (not sure if I'm right on the 14th, isn't that civil rights?).
I actually read the pdf of the judges decision, so I'm pretty sure about the prosecution bit. The judge even referenced it in his argument: he said something like, "If the DA hasn't felt the need to file yet, then there is clearly no problem so pressing that he can't wait until we've had an actual hearing."
That was basically what the judge ruled, with the additional point that the statute of limitations on his charges was 12 years, so there was no benefit leaving him free to basically use the threat of prosecution as blackmail.
I kinda like mouse gestures. I don't know, does that make me weird? Maybe I played too much Black and White?
Yea! They should let you browse anonymously! Maybe they could set up a special anonymous user name, or something?
They're also profiting off of it themselves. Google is not the best example, obviously, because there are no ads on the Google News site, but most other aggregators use ads to drive profit for themselves (including Slashdot).
And, arguably, a deep-linked article removes all the page views for the main page, etc.
It's a grey issue. Obviously newpapers are a bit pissy that their content is basically the business model for everyone else, when they're struggling, and it's not like you think "Wow this is such a good article, I should come to this site again." You think, "Wow, this is such a good aggregator! I should come here more often!"
Just from my own experience, the bulk of our aggregator traffic is blurby weird news. Some huge expose on a regional hospital doesn't compete with the proverbial five-assed monkey article.
Dude, it's sitting around in heavy armor. There aren't a whole lot of options.
But, say I agreed with you. The first thing I'd have to do is go out and kill all their natural predators, because, obviously, a minute in boiling water beats the crap out of being slowly picked to death, or being digested alive, or being picked up and repeatedly dashed against rocks.
Most organisms end their lives in blinding pain. Death usually isn't fun.
Did you know if you dump some instant grits on a fire ant mound the workers will take them in and feed them to the queen, and that she will then die as they slowly expand in her body, leaving her foul spawn to wither and die leaving an empty hellmound full of nothing but silence and despair?
Good stuff.
Incidentally, they kill scallops the same way as lobsters: by dumping them in boiling water. It's quick, and about as humane as it gets for something that can't otherwise be killed without wasting the meat.
Well semantically, the difference between "Experiencing pain" and "Displaying pain behaviours" is so thin as to be non-existent. Might as well assume they're the same thing.
As the same time, I agree with you. Nearly every living thing has a stimulus response to being damaged, including many plants. You have to draw the line somewhere.
Besides, what's the alternative? Whacking the head off with a cleaver first? It'll still flop around. If they didn't want to be killed by immersion in boiling water, they should have skipped the ol' exoskeleton.
News to me. I'm sure it'll be news to the 2 man state capitol bureau I walked through yesterday too that all their content doesn't come from the 5 major papers in the state, but instead from the 4 semi-retired reporters they buy a story a month from.
I'm sure if someone found it in their heart to offer an 8 figure buyout to a CEO of a newspaper corporation, they'd take it. In a heartbeat.
That'll never happen. We're not talking bankers here, we're talking people who work for a living, and while the quality of their work is similarly shitty, the golden parachute has a lot less luster. The only way they're getting paid is if they stay employed, so they'll hold on to their job as tight as they can.
Yea, but that only benefits the users of the site. All it will take to get them shut down (in Sweden) is a judge deciding that they are acting in bad faith to promote IP theft.