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I find it highly humorous that the first article posted on/. I read when I boot up Solaris 10 on VMware is an article about VMware and virtual appliances.
I used to run OpenBSD on my router/firewall, and I quickly grew to love it. Installing OpenBSD was one of the most painless installs I have ever experienced, although there is no graphical installer. The FAQ located on the OpenBSD web site is a very thorough and priceless guide, and there are quite a few books on OpenBSD that have been released recently, so the old argument that there's no documentation for OpenBSD to be found doesn't hold any water anymore.
Eventually, I ditched it for FreeBSD, because that's what I use on my desktop machine and on my notebook, and it feels more familiar. Also, I find patching and keeping the system up to date easier on FreeBSD than on OpenBSD. But don't let that discourage you, OpenBSD can be fun to use, just try it.
What exactly makes you call this a "half-hearted attempt"? As far as I know, the author of DesktopBSD has been working on this project for months now with only little help from a few others, and he's been a victim of flames like yours above trying to ridicule his efforts several times now.
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Until you've installed and tested it yourself, your post above is nothing more than a half-hearted attempt at a comment.
What I'm really looking forward to is the graphical WLAN configuration tool, which apparently will allow for different profiles to be saved (not quite sure on that one, though). Also, the author told me that he'll additionally release most of his stuff as ports, so it can be used on stock FreeBSD installations too. I am very happy with that.
Things must really have changed then. Back when I still used SuSE, I found YaST awesome and extremely helpful. I didn't make use of all its modules, but I never ran into problems. And quite often I hear others ask for YaST to be ported to their distro because they found it great when they saw it in action.
The FAQ is a bit weird, though - calling YaST a "standard" is a total exaggeration.
despite the growing maturity of Linux as a desktop operating system
I would have agreed if I hadn't seen that Slashdot article about X.org being available on Debian. Now that I've "upgraded" and messed up my X config, I'm not so sure about that...
I know you from other posts, many of which I have found myself to agree with often, but I am not sure what you were trying to say with your statement above. Firstly, I don't see how your messing up your system speaks against Linux' maturity. If anything, this single incident you mentioned just means that you probably made a mistake. Or maybe the fine people over at Debian made a mistake. My point is: there's no conlcusion as to the maturity of Linux to be drawn from the information you gave us.
Secondly, the (rather unkind) ability to mess up one's system should be no indication for the maturity of any operating system in general. When I still was a Windows user, I messed up all the time, even on more stable Windows versions like 2000 and XP. Yet, Windows has been the dominant desktop OS for years. So I am wondering what your point is.
There's an interesting discussion over at OSNews about this very topic. It seems like OS/2 still has a relatively big fan base, someone mentioned three or four native Mozilla/Firefox ports alone!
To everyone jumping down my throat because I said I would have fired her too:
She made a mistake that cost the company she worked for $251 million and resulted in a total loss of $12 million. I didn't say that it was her fault only, or that she was the only one who made a mistake. As other posters pointed out, the system was probably badly designed and should have caught such a blatant error. However, she was the one who decided to make a purchase while being unfamiliar with the system, so yes, I would indeed have fired her - along with everyone else involved in this disaster.
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I find it highly humorous that the first article posted on /. I read when I boot up Solaris 10 on VMware is an article about VMware and virtual appliances.
Your sense of humor needs better virtualization.
Can I get the cash now?
Slut.
Go on - someone make a joke about porn pop-ups, please!
I'd pay for those!
I run Gentoo Linux, how does this affect me?
Allow me to compile an answer for you. Please check back in 7 hours.
I used to run OpenBSD on my router/firewall, and I quickly grew to love it. Installing OpenBSD was one of the most painless installs I have ever experienced, although there is no graphical installer. The FAQ located on the OpenBSD web site is a very thorough and priceless guide, and there are quite a few books on OpenBSD that have been released recently, so the old argument that there's no documentation for OpenBSD to be found doesn't hold any water anymore.
Eventually, I ditched it for FreeBSD, because that's what I use on my desktop machine and on my notebook, and it feels more familiar. Also, I find patching and keeping the system up to date easier on FreeBSD than on OpenBSD. But don't let that discourage you, OpenBSD can be fun to use, just try it.
My wish list for Christmas 2005:
- Ending world hunger
- Finding a cure for AIDS
- Making objects brighter by allowing them to use the full brightness capabilities of the monitor
Only two more to go! Thanks, Slashdot, for bringing this to my attention!
Headline: MA Lawmakers Question Move to OpenOffice ...are questioning the move to OpenDocument.
Submission:
You do realize OpenOffice != OpenDocument, Zonkyboy, don't you? And what the hell is a Massachetts?
Apparently, Microsoft has already denied this.
I got that on OSNews.com yesterday.
What exactly makes you call this a "half-hearted attempt"? As far as I know, the author of DesktopBSD has been working on this project for months now with only little help from a few others, and he's been a victim of flames like yours above trying to ridicule his efforts several times now.
. Until you've installed and tested it yourself, your post above is nothing more than a half-hearted attempt at a comment.
I am sure that if those tools/additions prove to be useful and stable, they'll eventually find their way into the official FreeBSD tree.
Please note that this is not a "distro", it's a plain FreeBSD with the addition of a graphical installer and some other nice tools.
What I'm really looking forward to is the graphical WLAN configuration tool, which apparently will allow for different profiles to be saved (not quite sure on that one, though). Also, the author told me that he'll additionally release most of his stuff as ports, so it can be used on stock FreeBSD installations too. I am very happy with that.
Things must really have changed then. Back when I still used SuSE, I found YaST awesome and extremely helpful. I didn't make use of all its modules, but I never ran into problems. And quite often I hear others ask for YaST to be ported to their distro because they found it great when they saw it in action.
The FAQ is a bit weird, though - calling YaST a "standard" is a total exaggeration.
Yes, and how does it compare to OpenSSH and OpenNTPD, which we can also afford to download?
colour me offtopic [...] swanky blowout [...]...homo stylist guys
I'd rather color you pink. Thank you.
oh, I am a moron, already there, didnt see it. oh well. DOH!
I agree.
Though I doubt that that a review of Linspire is going to get slashdotted late on a Friday afternoon.
Because we geeks are busy getting ready for one of those zillion parties we alway get invited to?
2. Do not eat iSpace Shuttle.
I would have agreed if I hadn't seen that Slashdot article about X.org being available on Debian. Now that I've "upgraded" and messed up my X config, I'm not so sure about that...
I know you from other posts, many of which I have found myself to agree with often, but I am not sure what you were trying to say with your statement above. Firstly, I don't see how your messing up your system speaks against Linux' maturity. If anything, this single incident you mentioned just means that you probably made a mistake. Or maybe the fine people over at Debian made a mistake. My point is: there's no conlcusion as to the maturity of Linux to be drawn from the information you gave us.
Secondly, the (rather unkind) ability to mess up one's system should be no indication for the maturity of any operating system in general. When I still was a Windows user, I messed up all the time, even on more stable Windows versions like 2000 and XP. Yet, Windows has been the dominant desktop OS for years. So I am wondering what your point is.
But maybe I just got you wrong.
At least my post was based on researched facts.
/. then?
What are you doing on
There's an interesting discussion over at OSNews about this very topic. It seems like OS/2 still has a relatively big fan base, someone mentioned three or four native Mozilla/Firefox ports alone!
As a *BSD user, I really feel great today!
To everyone jumping down my throat because I said I would have fired her too:
She made a mistake that cost the company she worked for $251 million and resulted in a total loss of $12 million. I didn't say that it was her fault only, or that she was the only one who made a mistake. As other posters pointed out, the system was probably badly designed and should have caught such a blatant error. However, she was the one who decided to make a purchase while being unfamiliar with the system, so yes, I would indeed have fired her - along with everyone else involved in this disaster.
Don't tell me you wouldn't.
What other industry is so stupid as to work for free?
Mothers and housewives?