I think the points should still be given, but they're not really buying the virus, they're buying the DVD and the virus is just an unexpected "freebie".
Kinda like the TV ad where the guy is buying some car insurance, and at the checkout the clerk gives him a huge armful of extra stuff he didn't even know he was getting. In this case it'd just be like if in addition to concierge service and what not, the clerk lady also hands the man an irate badger trained to attack groins.
Are you sure you're not referring to svelte oak, leather upholstered executive chairs?
Sure, he'd probably love those.
Also, there are some seriously heavy office chairs, like those made by Steelcase.
I'm sure Ballmer picks MS' chair vendors based on their suitability as weapons. He probably only buys Aerons for when he wants to express only minor dissatisfaction.
Clearly you and I have different views of HUGE. he B-52 is HUGE, a 747 is HUGE.
Yes. Mine is with respect to supersonic air craft, the thing under discussion, you know with regard to whether or not you will hear one or two sonic booms? A B-52 is tiny compared to an oil tanker, and neither will break the sound barrier, and thus are about equally relevant to the discussion. A B-52 is only 50% longer than an SR-71 anyway; which would make some people, normal people, say that the SR-71 is huge for a supersonic plane.
So either you've never seen an SR-71 in person and are full of shit or you have a very very different understanding of "huge" than the rest of the population. I'd recommend you stop by one of the many air force museums around the country that contain SR-71's and inspect their real size because they aren't a HUGE plane.
I've seen a SR-71 in person, fuck you very much, the museum in my home town acquired one. It dwarfed the F-14 sitting right next to it, which non-dipshits think is pretty damn big for a supersonic plane. Which makes the SR-71 huge.
"The rest of the population" knows that words like "huge" are relative. And when you're talking about something that does Mach 3, most people don't put that in the same category as a 747. So I recommend you remove the stick from your ass.
Well TFA suggests that if Atta's bench warrant information had been availible to the officer issuing the second citation, then Atta could have been arrested and his vehicle impounded. And then, "At the impound yard, a curious investigator might have seen certain drawings, diagrams, blueprints, and notes. He might have seen flight manuals and textbooks and gotten more curious." So that would be the expected impetus for the query.
Yeah, that was a decent argument for how better communication between law enforcement agencies, combined with real police work, would improve their work. There's a ton of "mights" in applying it specifically to Atta's case, but the motivation is clear.
How this MATRIX nonsense was supposed to deduce the fact that Atta was in fact a terrorist from publicly available information prior to him being plastered all over the news as one of the 9/11 hijackers is what I'm getting at. They weren't just suggesting that a data mining/sharing program could aid law enforcement, they were suggesting that this program did in fact identify the 9/11 hijackers correctly.
I live in the Edwards Air Force Base restricted air space, so we here many sonic booms in any given week, mostly from small fighter jets. In every instance the double boom is clearly audible, unless it's a tail-less spacecraft like SpaceShipOne. Whenever we hear a single boom, it is blasting going on at the nearby CalPortland Cement Plant limestone quarry or the gold mine.
You're only hearing one boom from the fighter jet. The second boom is caused by the experimental invisible flying saucer made from area 51 technology that is following all of the "conventional" planes. They do it that way so that all you observant but non-clearanced folks on the base won't be suspicious.
Also, while everyone knows that UFOs don't create sonic booms, they haven't figured out that part of the technology yet. That's why NASA is pre-announcing this technology, so that when they finish it people won't be alarmed that suddenly all the super-sonic jets are silent.
The boom was quite loud and clearly double, and I was impressed at how much energy was wasted by it, given that I was 30-40 km away, and that it made the same boom across the entire country.
The SR-71 is also huge. Though a poster above says they live on Edwards Air Force Base and it's not true that you can only hear one boom most of the time.
But yeah, sound is a form of wasted energy. Pretty inconsequential though in comparison to everything else going on in that amazing flight I would imagine.
That's why, unless there is some real drag breakthrough, I think that rocket planes are the way to truly fast passenger travel.
Agree. That's the real promise of "space planes" like Space Ship 1-2. Who cares if they can't get to orbit, if they can get to Tokyo from London in a couple hours that'll be good enough.
Ballmer would never stoop to throwing some measly cheap-ass metal folding chair. That would be like General MacArthur using Red Ryder wagons as armored cavalry and Roman Candles as artillery. No, CEO Monkeyboy only uses high-priced adjustable office chairs as ordinance.
Well, they said they're trying to increase the accuracy of global warming predictions. I'd think that if that's what they wanted, using low power processors is exactly the wrong idea. I say use the least efficient, highest-power-sucking processors they can find, and guarantee that their results are accurate. "Global warming is a sure thing! And it's centered around our data center..."
You know what? I was going to try to tell you how wrong you were, and how you basically don't have any idea what you are talking about (or you do, so you know how to make sure everything you say is wrong).
But you know what? That's stupid. I'm not going to argue. You're right. You're absolutely right, the GPL will corrupt your code, your people, and your family. You will have to open source your bedroom activities, and invite RMS to watch. It's all true.
Because, frankly, I'm sick of companies who are too dumb to figure it out themselves, or too fucking retarded to hire the cheapest lawyer they can find to explain it to them if they can't figure it out for themselves, what exactly the GPL does and doesn't do. Cus if you can't figure it out, and are going to just assume whatever comes into your crack-damage brain (it'll pollute us all! no wait it's free we can do whatever we want!)... Then I don't want you using GPL code.
I mean seriously. If you can't figure out how maybe modifying the Linux kernel into your product means you have some obligations to follow vis-a-vis this free OS kernel you just picked up, and how this doesn't affect all the code you wrote that has nothing to do with the kernel... Then you are an idiot, your company deserves to fail, and I can only hope that your fear of using GPL software puts you at a competitive disadvantage and thus hastens that day.
Yeah I think it's safe to say that when someone says the word "use" in the context of code, like "if you want to use this code", that the implied "use" is of a kind that would in fact be a copyright violation.
Every skin flautist is a hero in my book.
Is oral sex adultery? YES! That's the end of the fucking argument! If curling is an Olympic sport, then oral sex is adultery. And oral sex should be an Olympic sport. I would like to see that. Ice skating, then blow jobs. I certainly would stay though whatever commercials they had. I think oral sex should be an Olympic sport because it's harder than curling ever has been, and if you're any good at it, you deserve a medal. -- Lewis Black
That's right. It's a tag-team match. And Skype's partner was a brain damaged lawyer who thought anti-trust arguments were worth even mentioning. While Tux pummeled Skype, the Gnu snuck up on the lawyer from behind and bashed him with a folding chair.
The compiler simply converts code from one format (C) to another (object code) - the GPL doesn't contain any clauses regarding the output. gcc _does_ include some of its library code within the resulting object code though, but the licence explicitly states that the GPL does not apply to this.
More accurately, the code that is included within the resulting object code is glibc, which is covered by the LGPL, not the GPL. No part of gcc proper goes into the resulting binary.
But yes, the GPL does explicitly state that the output of a GPLed program is not covered (which is an obvious matter of copyright law, but the GPL likes to make such things clear in the license itself), excepting of course if part of the output is itself GPLed code. Which, in the case of gcc and the resulting glibc-linked object files, it isn't.
Anyway, the poster you replied to obviously knew this, why he asked how the iPhone got "infected" (since it clearly isn't). Which you probably knew too. It's the OP who is the obvious clueless troll.
No. By the time the story appeared on Slashdot, Skype's silly anti-trust claims had been dismissed by the judge, and they abandoned their appeal. In the/. article, someone posted a link to a German site which had the news already.
Coincidence?
It taking some time for the news to cross the language boundary, and still further time to show up on/., isn't very coincidental.;)
Yeah, I've got a mother-fucking perfect Suicide Bomber detector. It never fails. 100% specificity, 100% sensitivity. Here's how it works (it's patented, so my lucrative business is not in danger by sharing my methods):
I stand around a marketplace in Baghdad. When a guy runs up to a crowd, screams "Allah Akhbar", pulls a string on his coat, and fucking explodes all over the place, I point at the spot where he used to be, and say "That was a suicide bomber".
And before you try to horn in on my business, know that I've already sold the DoD enhancements to my algorithm that covers cases where the bomber doesn't scream "Allah Akhbar", or where the bomber is a she not a he, or where the explosives are in a car not a coat. Or combinations thereof.
But seriously, it says that "his query" produced Atta's photo (and 80 others only some of which apparently had anything to do with 9/11). What exactly was this query? "9/11 hijackers"? "terrorists named Atta"? "Arabs who've been pulled over"? So Atta's driving citations means it was theoretically possible for someone to pull his name up. The question is, why would they have done this? What would have motivated someone to perform that query, and how exactly does data mining driving citations lead to the important conclusion that Atta was a terrorist?
The article makes good points that data sharing between law enforcement agencies is a good thing, and helps with such rather mundane things as finding fugitives who skip out on parole, or people who don't show up for court dates. But that MATRIX nonsense is yet another attempt to cash in on post-9/11 anti-terror funding bonanzas. Which, now that I've gotten my slice of the pie, I'm against.:)
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+10 points for SELLING a virus to the target.
I think the points should still be given, but they're not really buying the virus, they're buying the DVD and the virus is just an unexpected "freebie".
Kinda like the TV ad where the guy is buying some car insurance, and at the checkout the clerk gives him a huge armful of extra stuff he didn't even know he was getting. In this case it'd just be like if in addition to concierge service and what not, the clerk lady also hands the man an irate badger trained to attack groins.
Just because it's not an officaly army sanctioned activity doesn't mean there's not an army way of doing things.
Mental Image You Didn't Need For Today: A bunch of Privates standing around in a circle-jerk, with their Sargent calling out a cadence.
Hearing that from an AC is hilarious.
Are you sure you're not referring to svelte oak, leather upholstered executive chairs?
Sure, he'd probably love those.
Also, there are some seriously heavy office chairs, like those made by Steelcase.
I'm sure Ballmer picks MS' chair vendors based on their suitability as weapons. He probably only buys Aerons for when he wants to express only minor dissatisfaction.
Didn't you hear? JAXA is not in charge of Gundam.
Yes, bullets make sonic booms, they're just not very loud because a bullet is such a small object.
Clearly you and I have different views of HUGE. he B-52 is HUGE, a 747 is HUGE.
Yes. Mine is with respect to supersonic air craft, the thing under discussion, you know with regard to whether or not you will hear one or two sonic booms? A B-52 is tiny compared to an oil tanker, and neither will break the sound barrier, and thus are about equally relevant to the discussion. A B-52 is only 50% longer than an SR-71 anyway; which would make some people, normal people, say that the SR-71 is huge for a supersonic plane.
So either you've never seen an SR-71 in person and are full of shit or you have a very very different understanding of "huge" than the rest of the population. I'd recommend you stop by one of the many air force museums around the country that contain SR-71's and inspect their real size because they aren't a HUGE plane.
I've seen a SR-71 in person, fuck you very much, the museum in my home town acquired one. It dwarfed the F-14 sitting right next to it, which non-dipshits think is pretty damn big for a supersonic plane. Which makes the SR-71 huge.
"The rest of the population" knows that words like "huge" are relative. And when you're talking about something that does Mach 3, most people don't put that in the same category as a 747. So I recommend you remove the stick from your ass.
Well TFA suggests that if Atta's bench warrant information had been availible to the officer issuing the second citation, then Atta could have been arrested and his vehicle impounded. And then, "At the impound yard, a curious investigator might have seen certain drawings, diagrams, blueprints, and notes. He might have seen flight manuals and textbooks and gotten more curious." So that would be the expected impetus for the query.
Yeah, that was a decent argument for how better communication between law enforcement agencies, combined with real police work, would improve their work. There's a ton of "mights" in applying it specifically to Atta's case, but the motivation is clear.
How this MATRIX nonsense was supposed to deduce the fact that Atta was in fact a terrorist from publicly available information prior to him being plastered all over the news as one of the 9/11 hijackers is what I'm getting at. They weren't just suggesting that a data mining/sharing program could aid law enforcement, they were suggesting that this program did in fact identify the 9/11 hijackers correctly.
I live in the Edwards Air Force Base restricted air space, so we here many sonic booms in any given week, mostly from small fighter jets. In every instance the double boom is clearly audible, unless it's a tail-less spacecraft like SpaceShipOne. Whenever we hear a single boom, it is blasting going on at the nearby CalPortland Cement Plant limestone quarry or the gold mine.
You're only hearing one boom from the fighter jet. The second boom is caused by the experimental invisible flying saucer made from area 51 technology that is following all of the "conventional" planes. They do it that way so that all you observant but non-clearanced folks on the base won't be suspicious.
Also, while everyone knows that UFOs don't create sonic booms, they haven't figured out that part of the technology yet. That's why NASA is pre-announcing this technology, so that when they finish it people won't be alarmed that suddenly all the super-sonic jets are silent.
Duh.
The boom was quite loud and clearly double, and I was impressed at how much energy was wasted by it, given that I was 30-40 km away, and that it made the same boom across the entire country.
The SR-71 is also huge. Though a poster above says they live on Edwards Air Force Base and it's not true that you can only hear one boom most of the time.
But yeah, sound is a form of wasted energy. Pretty inconsequential though in comparison to everything else going on in that amazing flight I would imagine.
That's why, unless there is some real drag breakthrough, I think that rocket planes are the way to truly fast passenger travel.
Agree. That's the real promise of "space planes" like Space Ship 1-2. Who cares if they can't get to orbit, if they can get to Tokyo from London in a couple hours that'll be good enough.
Hehe, ain't it the truth.
"Phonic poo!"
"Ding-dong kick!"
"Sow dookie!"
"High girl uppercut!"
"Testsoshreaouprhoeu!"
*whispers* sonic boom...
GNU secretly employs Ballmer?
Ballmer would never stoop to throwing some measly cheap-ass metal folding chair. That would be like General MacArthur using Red Ryder wagons as armored cavalry and Roman Candles as artillery. No, CEO Monkeyboy only uses high-priced adjustable office chairs as ordinance.
Well, they said they're trying to increase the accuracy of global warming predictions. I'd think that if that's what they wanted, using low power processors is exactly the wrong idea. I say use the least efficient, highest-power-sucking processors they can find, and guarantee that their results are accurate. "Global warming is a sure thing! And it's centered around our data center..."
Not to be pedantic, but the number of the beast is actually 616...
That used to be my area code...
Thanks, good point.
Probably not.
But yes if it is "if you want to use the code to this compiler".
You know what? I was going to try to tell you how wrong you were, and how you basically don't have any idea what you are talking about (or you do, so you know how to make sure everything you say is wrong).
But you know what? That's stupid. I'm not going to argue. You're right. You're absolutely right, the GPL will corrupt your code, your people, and your family. You will have to open source your bedroom activities, and invite RMS to watch. It's all true.
Because, frankly, I'm sick of companies who are too dumb to figure it out themselves, or too fucking retarded to hire the cheapest lawyer they can find to explain it to them if they can't figure it out for themselves, what exactly the GPL does and doesn't do. Cus if you can't figure it out, and are going to just assume whatever comes into your crack-damage brain (it'll pollute us all! no wait it's free we can do whatever we want!)... Then I don't want you using GPL code.
I mean seriously. If you can't figure out how maybe modifying the Linux kernel into your product means you have some obligations to follow vis-a-vis this free OS kernel you just picked up, and how this doesn't affect all the code you wrote that has nothing to do with the kernel... Then you are an idiot, your company deserves to fail, and I can only hope that your fear of using GPL software puts you at a competitive disadvantage and thus hastens that day.
So yes. GPL is viral. Pass it on.
Yeah I think it's safe to say that when someone says the word "use" in the context of code, like "if you want to use this code", that the implied "use" is of a kind that would in fact be a copyright violation.
So the penguin and the gnu are both relevant.
That's right. It's a tag-team match. And Skype's partner was a brain damaged lawyer who thought anti-trust arguments were worth even mentioning. While Tux pummeled Skype, the Gnu snuck up on the lawyer from behind and bashed him with a folding chair.
The compiler simply converts code from one format (C) to another (object code) - the GPL doesn't contain any clauses regarding the output. gcc _does_ include some of its library code within the resulting object code though, but the licence explicitly states that the GPL does not apply to this.
More accurately, the code that is included within the resulting object code is glibc, which is covered by the LGPL, not the GPL. No part of gcc proper goes into the resulting binary.
But yes, the GPL does explicitly state that the output of a GPLed program is not covered (which is an obvious matter of copyright law, but the GPL likes to make such things clear in the license itself), excepting of course if part of the output is itself GPLed code. Which, in the case of gcc and the resulting glibc-linked object files, it isn't.
Anyway, the poster you replied to obviously knew this, why he asked how the iPhone got "infected" (since it clearly isn't). Which you probably knew too. It's the OP who is the obvious clueless troll.
Later that day, the story appears on slashdot.
/. article, someone posted a link to a German site which had the news already.
/., isn't very coincidental. ;)
No. By the time the story appeared on Slashdot, Skype's silly anti-trust claims had been dismissed by the judge, and they abandoned their appeal. In the
Coincidence?
It taking some time for the news to cross the language boundary, and still further time to show up on
Hehe, me too. Nothing clears the head before heading home from work like a good ol' flame.
Yeah, I've got a mother-fucking perfect Suicide Bomber detector. It never fails. 100% specificity, 100% sensitivity. Here's how it works (it's patented, so my lucrative business is not in danger by sharing my methods):
:)
I stand around a marketplace in Baghdad. When a guy runs up to a crowd, screams "Allah Akhbar", pulls a string on his coat, and fucking explodes all over the place, I point at the spot where he used to be, and say "That was a suicide bomber".
And before you try to horn in on my business, know that I've already sold the DoD enhancements to my algorithm that covers cases where the bomber doesn't scream "Allah Akhbar", or where the bomber is a she not a he, or where the explosives are in a car not a coat. Or combinations thereof.
But seriously, it says that "his query" produced Atta's photo (and 80 others only some of which apparently had anything to do with 9/11). What exactly was this query? "9/11 hijackers"? "terrorists named Atta"? "Arabs who've been pulled over"? So Atta's driving citations means it was theoretically possible for someone to pull his name up. The question is, why would they have done this? What would have motivated someone to perform that query, and how exactly does data mining driving citations lead to the important conclusion that Atta was a terrorist?
The article makes good points that data sharing between law enforcement agencies is a good thing, and helps with such rather mundane things as finding fugitives who skip out on parole, or people who don't show up for court dates. But that MATRIX nonsense is yet another attempt to cash in on post-9/11 anti-terror funding bonanzas. Which, now that I've gotten my slice of the pie, I'm against.