" He removed anyone from receiving the emails if they asked to be removed. "
by doing this, he may not be sued by individual recipient. however, when the company asked him to remove everyone from the list, he didn't do so and hence he kept himself open to being sued by the company for harassment. he obtained the list in an unauthorized manner and sent unsolicited mails to those people on the list. this is surely an abuse.
in my college, i used to maintain list of emails in one of the organization. another person in the organization committee, got hold of email addresses and started sending out offending jokes to them. i took the action against that person on the basis that his compilation of list was an unauthorized copy. my college admins agreed with me and asked the other person to stop sending emails to people without explicit prior approval (unlike opt-out offered by hamid).
" Are people tresspassing if they phone you without your permission?"
yes, if you obtained telephone number in an unauthorized manner. if you work at telephone company and take away list of 35k people who are otherwise unlisted and call them for some solicitation, you are surely going to jail.
hamid did exactly that. he took 35k email addresses from intel which is no where available publicly and send them email with his personal agenda.
if he copied the entire mailing list from intel system while he was still at intel, then he indeed committed theft by stealing company property. if on the other hand, he compiled the list himself from the emails that he had recd over the period of time while still at intel, then it is okay.
given the fact that he sent emails to as many as 35k employees, he mostly copied the list and i think that might put him in trouble. i for sure don't want an email from some ex-employess of my company whom i don't know at all. i would call that as a spam and i would surely support my company taking action against such employee.
if on the other hand, if someone i know sends me an email, either i would ask the person to remove me from the list or i would just ignore the mails but would strongly discourage my company from taking any action against the person. hamidi's biggest crime was that he used company's list and initiated communication to people who had never shown any interest in his activity nor he knew them personally. this is classic spam.
SCO has said, it won't sue SCO Linux customers. Can they afford to this? I think no. It is in catch-22 situation.
If SCO sold the SCO Linux to its customers legally then that sell is governed by GPL and SCO loses right to its proprietary code. If it didn't sell them under GPL, then SCO had no right to sell at all and its customers are using illegal copies and now anyone can sue SCO Linux customers. In truth, the SCO Linux customers are doomed. Either SCO must recall the product or they can be sued by Linux developers. SCO wants to sell SCO Linux but without GPL and it can't do it.
The SCO case against IBM is altogether a different matter. That is between IBM, SCO and let them figure out in court. But if SCO tries to sue Linux customers, it is in deep trouble.
the business softwares sit at the highest end of the food chain and hence they command the highest price. there are no government of institutional research in this area, so r&d has to be picked up by developer and eventually by customer. the buyers are typically manager and they don't understand technicality, so everything needs to be simplified which adds to more cost. the legal implications means that lots of certification, testing, trial runs. each business operates differently and huge amount of customization is needed. eventually the field is dry and has no inherent interest which means that people write for money alone which reduces efficiency. i can go on and on to explain why business softwares cost so much, but the fact is, they will remain that way for the near future.
with all the buffs that we are hearing about internet, xml etc; EDI still operates on its private network where the charges are per byte and the data format is more obscured than obfuscated perl programs.
stores which sells items in which intangibles have more value than tangibles are the most likely to be affected by internet. Thus books (what is in it costs more than the printing and paper), CD, Software etc are going to be affected first.
The second affectees are those whose products are bought on basis of properties which can be quantified easily. This includes computer, digital camera, MP3 players etc.
Third are those items which people don't buy for themselves but are gifted (outside family). This includes toys etc.
Next would be items which have only functional use. Electronics, stationeries etc.
Next would be items which can be externally appraised.
Last would be personal items. Clothes, cooking utensils, food and drinks etc.
Now FireWire proponents can say that the standard FireWire is 35x faster than USB 2 Full Speed. Also, FireWire-800 already available is about 75x faster than USB 2 and FireWire-3200 to be available soon would be about 300x faster than USB 2 Full Speed.
Sontag is wrong if he thinks that US govt will help because Linux is used by terrorists, since Linux is also used by NASA, Pentagon etc. It would have been different matter if he had said that Linux is used by Al Gore....
when would BSA raid IBM premises? Looks like they are the biggest software pirates.
useful for intranet too
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many intranet connections are less than 1000 ft from the router. so now the chip could be used for intranet connections too. since most people have office phone, they can share the same line for data too and no need to worry about laying lots of ethernet cable. can i get one of those at decent price for my home networking? i have telephone connections in all rooms but no ethernet wires.
earlier, companies used to make devices which will enable users to do things they wanted. now they are providing "upgrade" which will take away those features. does anyone know why the economy is so bad?
so how come the sales of writing instruments (pen, pencils etc) is increasing steadily? According to WIMA, the sales have increased every year from 1995-2000 (all of the years for which the site has data).
Even in dollar terms, the sales have mostly increased steadily (only one year shows downward trend).
Looking at the NDA, looks like only people who are friendly with SCO will dare sign it. Then they will tell people that the Linux and IBM violated SCO's IP.
i remember ages ago margaret thatcher had similar idea. instead of property tax as a percentage of property cost, she proposed number of occupants based property tax. thus 4 people living in a slum would pay more than 1 person staying in a palace.
now, a big vehicle which pollutes more air, does more damage to road (per mile driven) will pay the same taxes as small fuel efficient environmental friendly car. gas usage represents combination of how big your vehicle is (how much damage to road per mile driven), how much does it cost (costlier vehicles typically use more gas), and how polluting your vehicle is. so, I guess, the gas tax is much more justified. but i think that is too simple and low tech, and they seem to be looking for some high tech solution, which i can't think of.
we have had ibm 1 gb 1" hd for ages. in that sense 1.5 gb 1" is only an evolutionary. however, the price point may be little attractive. at $65, it would compete with 512 MB compactflash.
samsung video camera using 1.5 gb hd is less interesting in a sense that they don't have comparable optical and video quality specs and if you take history as a reference, it will be a mediocre camcorder. panasonic is working on pro level camcorder with 6 CF cards, each upto 4 GB. a consumer version of this may be more interesting.
hitachi, which took over ibm microdive, plans to make 4 gb version before the end of the year. if they can make price down, it might succeed.
microdrive had only a partial success in the beginning when CF was very expensive. today, it looks like a solution in need of a problem. for mp3, the 1.8" factor is good enough (e.g. iPod) where you can get upto 30 gb. for cameras, you need lot more reliability that many people are dissatisfied with microdrives. for pda, 512 MB CF is more than enough. for camcorders, tapes provide reliability; dvd based camcorder provides direct archive and micro-dv (Sony) provide compactness. as much as i like the technology, i don't see where to fit it.
now if they add 10" or bigger screen, wouldn't it be called PC?
How about a PC with 3.8" screen, without CD/DVD, very few ports..? It should be possible to manufacture one much cheaper than USD 570 (the list price for 20 GB).
It is a cool device but at that price point, it will compete with sub-notebook PC and people will compare with it. Other than small size and touch sensitive screen, it has nothing extra but has lot less than PC.
it was so hard for the bush administration to manupulate all these news sources so that they publish their version of the news stories. hopefully, the Iraq-War III would have better coverage suitable for Bush Jr-III (does such beast exist?) administration. now it will only require 5 phone calls to media head to tell them what to publish.
as for myself, i read domestic media only for domestic news. all international news, i get through foreign sources exclusively which are not tied to any US multinational sources.
many counties and cities have laws which will not allow you to lay a fiber into homes if similar thing already exist (even if it is owned by some monopolist). this means they will keep the prices so high that the total of (price*subscriber - cost) is the highest irrespective of what the price should have been if it were open market. Let us say, their internal research says following:
1) at $300 rate, we can get 10000 subscribers 2) at $30 rate, we can get 100,000 subscribers. 3) the cost per subscriber is $10
Now guess, what route they will take? obviously the first one. if competitors were allowed, you would see about $12-$15 rate, but thanks to monopoly; the rate is now $300!!!
Some cities may have some oversight commission which will prevent such high prices, so they may settle slightly lower price. but they can always lie and say their fiber maintanance cost as $200.
this is not my invention; this is exactly what is happening in local phone and cable market. i have exaggerated the figures in the example but overall the strategy is same. look at how the long distance rates have fallen over time (my per minute cost for long distance is 60% lower than decade ago) while local phone rates are going up (i am paying 40% more).
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" He removed anyone from receiving the emails if they asked to be removed. "
by doing this, he may not be sued by individual recipient. however, when the company asked him to remove everyone from the list, he didn't do so and hence he kept himself open to being sued by the company for harassment. he obtained the list in an unauthorized manner and sent unsolicited mails to those people on the list. this is surely an abuse.
in my college, i used to maintain list of emails in one of the organization. another person in the organization committee, got hold of email addresses and started sending out offending jokes to them. i took the action against that person on the basis that his compilation of list was an unauthorized copy. my college admins agreed with me and asked the other person to stop sending emails to people without explicit prior approval (unlike opt-out offered by hamid).
on this, i believe, intel was right.
"Clearly, Hamidi's actions didn't damage any equipment, they simply annoyed a lot of people."
i don't agree on this. if you send 35k unsolicited email, you did affect productivity. this is precisely why we have legislation against spam.
" Are people tresspassing if they phone you without your permission?" yes, if you obtained telephone number in an unauthorized manner. if you work at telephone company and take away list of 35k people who are otherwise unlisted and call them for some solicitation, you are surely going to jail. hamid did exactly that. he took 35k email addresses from intel which is no where available publicly and send them email with his personal agenda.
if he copied the entire mailing list from intel system while he was still at intel, then he indeed committed theft by stealing company property. if on the other hand, he compiled the list himself from the emails that he had recd over the period of time while still at intel, then it is okay.
given the fact that he sent emails to as many as 35k employees, he mostly copied the list and i think that might put him in trouble. i for sure don't want an email from some ex-employess of my company whom i don't know at all. i would call that as a spam and i would surely support my company taking action against such employee.
if on the other hand, if someone i know sends me an email, either i would ask the person to remove me from the list or i would just ignore the mails but would strongly discourage my company from taking any action against the person. hamidi's biggest crime was that he used company's list and initiated communication to people who had never shown any interest in his activity nor he knew them personally. this is classic spam.
"but it also takes your body temp average/..."
...?
how long, does it take to measure body temp average? days, months,
under DMCA (what else)?
SCO has said, it won't sue SCO Linux customers. Can they afford to this? I think no. It is in catch-22 situation.
If SCO sold the SCO Linux to its customers legally then that sell is governed by GPL and SCO loses right to its proprietary code. If it didn't sell them under GPL, then SCO had no right to sell at all and its customers are using illegal copies and now anyone can sue SCO Linux customers. In truth, the SCO Linux customers are doomed. Either SCO must recall the product or they can be sued by Linux developers. SCO wants to sell SCO Linux but without GPL and it can't do it.
The SCO case against IBM is altogether a different matter. That is between IBM, SCO and let them figure out in court. But if SCO tries to sue Linux customers, it is in deep trouble.
the business softwares sit at the highest end of the food chain and hence they command the highest price. there are no government of institutional research in this area, so r&d has to be picked up by developer and eventually by customer. the buyers are typically manager and they don't understand technicality, so everything needs to be simplified which adds to more cost. the legal implications means that lots of certification, testing, trial runs. each business operates differently and huge amount of customization is needed. eventually the field is dry and has no inherent interest which means that people write for money alone which reduces efficiency. i can go on and on to explain why business softwares cost so much, but the fact is, they will remain that way for the near future.
with all the buffs that we are hearing about internet, xml etc; EDI still operates on its private network where the charges are per byte and the data format is more obscured than obfuscated perl programs.
stores which sells items in which intangibles have more value than tangibles are the most likely to be affected by internet. Thus books (what is in it costs more than the printing and paper), CD, Software etc are going to be affected first.
The second affectees are those whose products are bought on basis of properties which can be quantified easily. This includes computer, digital camera, MP3 players etc.
Third are those items which people don't buy for themselves but are gifted (outside family). This includes toys etc.
Next would be items which have only functional use. Electronics, stationeries etc.
Next would be items which can be externally appraised.
Last would be personal items. Clothes, cooking utensils, food and drinks etc.
Now FireWire proponents can say that the standard FireWire is 35x faster than USB 2 Full Speed. Also, FireWire-800 already available is about 75x faster than USB 2 and FireWire-3200 to be available soon would be about 300x faster than USB 2 Full Speed.
Sontag is wrong if he thinks that US govt will help because Linux is used by terrorists, since Linux is also used by NASA, Pentagon etc. It would have been different matter if he had said that Linux is used by Al Gore....
now you have to be careful when someone points watergun at you.
seems like noone cares. Even Sun hasn't made any comment on it.
when would BSA raid IBM premises? Looks like they are the biggest software pirates.
many intranet connections are less than 1000 ft from the router. so now the chip could be used for intranet connections too. since most people have office phone, they can share the same line for data too and no need to worry about laying lots of ethernet cable. can i get one of those at decent price for my home networking? i have telephone connections in all rooms but no ethernet wires.
having a potluck everyday!!!
now you can get virus and anti-virus software from the same company.
earlier, companies used to make devices which will enable users to do things they wanted. now they are providing "upgrade" which will take away those features. does anyone know why the economy is so bad?
so how come the sales of writing instruments (pen, pencils etc) is increasing steadily? According to WIMA, the sales have increased every year from 1995-2000 (all of the years for which the site has data).
Even in dollar terms, the sales have mostly increased steadily (only one year shows downward trend).
Looking at the NDA, looks like only people who are friendly with SCO will dare sign it. Then they will tell people that the Linux and IBM violated SCO's IP.
i remember ages ago margaret thatcher had similar idea. instead of property tax as a percentage of property cost, she proposed number of occupants based property tax. thus 4 people living in a slum would pay more than 1 person staying in a palace.
now, a big vehicle which pollutes more air, does more damage to road (per mile driven) will pay the same taxes as small fuel efficient environmental friendly car. gas usage represents combination of how big your vehicle is (how much damage to road per mile driven), how much does it cost (costlier vehicles typically use more gas), and how polluting your vehicle is. so, I guess, the gas tax is much more justified. but i think that is too simple and low tech, and they seem to be looking for some high tech solution, which i can't think of.
we have had ibm 1 gb 1" hd for ages. in that sense 1.5 gb 1" is only an evolutionary. however, the price point may be little attractive. at $65, it would compete with 512 MB compactflash.
samsung video camera using 1.5 gb hd is less interesting in a sense that they don't have comparable optical and video quality specs and if you take history as a reference, it will be a mediocre camcorder. panasonic is working on pro level camcorder with 6 CF cards, each upto 4 GB. a consumer version of this may be more interesting.
hitachi, which took over ibm microdive, plans to make 4 gb version before the end of the year. if they can make price down, it might succeed.
microdrive had only a partial success in the beginning when CF was very expensive. today, it looks like a solution in need of a problem. for mp3, the 1.8" factor is good enough (e.g. iPod) where you can get upto 30 gb. for cameras, you need lot more reliability that many people are dissatisfied with microdrives. for pda, 512 MB CF is more than enough. for camcorders, tapes provide reliability; dvd based camcorder provides direct archive and micro-dv (Sony) provide compactness. as much as i like the technology, i don't see where to fit it.
now if they add 10" or bigger screen, wouldn't it be called PC?
How about a PC with 3.8" screen, without CD/DVD, very few ports..? It should be possible to manufacture one much cheaper than USD 570 (the list price for 20 GB).
It is a cool device but at that price point, it will compete with sub-notebook PC and people will compare with it. Other than small size and touch sensitive screen, it has nothing extra but has lot less than PC.
it was so hard for the bush administration to manupulate all these news sources so that they publish their version of the news stories. hopefully, the Iraq-War III would have better coverage suitable for Bush Jr-III (does such beast exist?) administration. now it will only require 5 phone calls to media head to tell them what to publish.
as for myself, i read domestic media only for domestic news. all international news, i get through foreign sources exclusively which are not tied to any US multinational sources.
many counties and cities have laws which will not allow you to lay a fiber into homes if similar thing already exist (even if it is owned by some monopolist). this means they will keep the prices so high that the total of (price*subscriber - cost) is the highest irrespective of what the price should have been if it were open market. Let us say, their internal research says following:
1) at $300 rate, we can get 10000 subscribers
2) at $30 rate, we can get 100,000 subscribers.
3) the cost per subscriber is $10
Now guess, what route they will take? obviously the first one. if competitors were allowed, you would see about $12-$15 rate, but thanks to monopoly; the rate is now $300!!!
Some cities may have some oversight commission which will prevent such high prices, so they may settle slightly lower price. but they can always lie and say their fiber maintanance cost as $200.
this is not my invention; this is exactly what is happening in local phone and cable market. i have exaggerated the figures in the example but overall the strategy is same. look at how the long distance rates have fallen over time (my per minute cost for long distance is 60% lower than decade ago) while local phone rates are going up (i am paying 40% more).