If governments began to regulate the internet, you would more than likely see the days of old revived. Bulliten Board Services (Bobcat, PowerBBS, etc) would begin to spring up, but, of course, they would be more advanced and more accessible. I think that now people have gotten a taste of the internet they will not give it up with a nod and a wink. The underground would flourish - peer to peer connections would soar, thus cutting out the middle men, and evading regulation. Either way, it is my belief that the government can do what they will, but the people will find a way around it.
It's common. And it's going to get worse in all major metropolitan areas over the next 10-20 years. Get used to it.
It may be common, but really, does saying "get used to it" solve anything? No. It is not a constructive way to deal with problems. What we need to do is find a solution, not just "get used to it."
1. How do you get people/organisations to share their disk space, clock cycles, and bandwidth for other people's data? I'm not interested.
I think the real problem is insuring its reliability. Look at the current "big" distributed programs running now... SETI, Distributed.net, Processtree (the free ones), et al.. There are some very dedicated users who do it for no reason other than to help a cause; you will find this in nearly every project. However, this does not make for a *very* stable and reliable "backbone", as it were.
2. How do you index this thing? Centralised or distributed? Who controls it if central?
Distriubted with a series of "central" directory servers would probably be the best bet. That is not really a great problem - all it needs is a few hours (days) of good thinking, and a little testing and a good system would be worked out quickly.
3. How do you clean up old stuff no one wants? Once your file(s) are copied numerous times, you are going to have extra overhead everywhere. Or can you send a command to all computers connected to delete said file?
Files that no one wants? I don't think they exist. People (read: some people) will generally find uses for the most obsolete things (I.e. look at all the interest in old (read: vintage) games that companies won't release to the public. There is demand, just not huge. That does not nullify the fact that the demand exists. Also, several locations of the same file will not be a bad thing, per se, like Napster, it will make it easier to get it more quickly, and without worry about downloading it from some server in the middle of Russia. The more the merrier.
Maybe in their hubris of thinking that their servers were unhackable they lacked the foresight to have backups of the characters and *really* good log files. Talk about putting one's foot in one's mouth. It happens to so many people/companies..... get really good in one area, and let all the others wane. Shame.
Dear World,
Thanks for all you have allowed the human race to experience! It has truly been a spectacular ride this far. I could wax philosophical feelings right now - but I won't. Instead, I would like to say hello to all the people in my life who mean the most to me. My few friends, and my many enemies - for they too make up a part of me. I love you all. Happy New Year: Mom, Dad, Jim, Mr. Maloy (greatest physics teacher ever) Mrs. Teagarden, Mr. Volek, Katy, Jessica, Anthony, Joey, Kacey, and everyone else in the world. Let's make life a little better every day.
Exactly. And this almost ties in with the fundamentals of modern technology. Sure, the lightbulb was (and is) fantastic, but more importantly it gave way to things that are now implemented in current technologies. Perhaps the writer of the article errs when he defferentiates between the two. One merely plays off of the other - no single era's produtcs can then be considered greater than another's.
... that internet companies are bloated and full of hubris. Whose ego is fueling these fires? I really do not comprehend how people think they have any right to patent something as universal as a thumbnail gallery. That is no different than claming to have created the photo album or any other convienent image bank. What a joke. What needs to be seen is the Patent Office of the United States to crawl out of their shallow hole and discover the world out there is teeming with dynamic ideas, and that somtimes (read: most of the time) patents are entirely uncalled for. They do little but symie the world at large. *sigh* I feel sad and depressed all over again. Will humans never learn?
This sounds great to me - I am a huge proponent of the space program, and I truly hope that someday [soon] we have humans living among the stars. However, I think that President Clinton needs to be asked the question "What about private organizations?" I think very highly of NASA, and other government funded space agencies, but in earnest, I feel the private sector would take great strides in space development. After all - they are after profit. What better fuel to feel the money hungry? Fierce competition will instantly sprout up, and soon, costs will be reduced so drastically that people will be able to celebrate Christmas on the moon. The private sector has always done great things for technology/economy in the past and I believe it is time to let that private sector go as far as it wants.
Now we know why NASA has been screwing things up lately! The map (linked above) is clearly an indication that NASA (and other space agencies) are using Windows. The problem: they play Minesweeper instead of the "Mission Control" game. *grin*
There was also that time that they posted the story for the (fasle) comapny who claimed to be manufacturing SETI "expansion boards" and selling them to the public. Turns out that due to the huge amount of people/. directed to the (false, but VERY convincing) site, the people who ran the site collected sensitive credit card information. People actually placed orders. Of course, the next day the (false) site confessed that it was a joke. Interesting though, how people took/. with such high regard.
I do agree that algorthim development is greatly important, but that is not to say that we should discount the idea of making the physical drvies more massive. Both are important.
The same principle I mentioned in my (above) post can be likened to modern medicine. If some british scientists hadn't asked what a certian green fungi was, we would today not have penicillin. The same idea can be applied to many many things - progress is good. Understanding more is good - not "pointless."
What do you mean "What's the point?" The point is, we must continue to go for higher densities, otherwise storage technology (one facet of it at least) would stagnent - and that is rarely a good thing. What if, several years ago, looked at a nice floppy disk and said "What's the point? We've got plenty of hard drive space already."? Would we today have the 70GB drives we have? No, I don't think so. The idea is not to look at technology and say it is good enough - the idea is to keep on pushing the envelope, testing the limites of the world as we know it, in hopes of constnatly making things better.
Like other have said, other organisms can (and many do) have more base pairs than we do - just like they have more chromosomes. For instant, a fern plant has something in the ballpark of 1200 chromosomes! Compared to us, you would think the fern is a super-being. However, there is much less information per chromosome in the fern, whereas in a human chromosome, the information is much more dense. It is nature's way of making things more efficient perhaps. Just because there is more "Stuff" there, that doesn't mean there is more information in the stuff. Remember, quality, not quanity.:)
But what about the logo? Sorry for the lack of thought, or a more detailed reply, but I am in school getting ready for a presentation in my Humanities class.:) Maybe I'll catch up with the thread when I get home.
First of all, what rights are you refering to? The right to use copyrighted material for your own cause, without permission from the owner of the copyright? Oh yeah, I forgot about that right. Regardless of the money factor, Apple does have a right to things that originated from them. I don't care if it aligns them with open source or not - the fact remains, you don't (nor does anyone else) have a RIGHT to their material. If they decide to let you use it/have it, that is ther prerogative, but for the time being, they are not letting that happen.
You also have to understand this fact: Apple is a BUSINESS. Last time I checked, businesses were in the business (ha ha, pun!) of making money. Sure, a side effect of that may be that the consumer is elated, but it is by no means a requirement of the company to please every person on the earth - or give away their material. Sure, it would be nice, but they don't have to, and you (or anyone else) certianly do not have a RIGHT to anything of that nature.
Silent encroachments of those in power and sudden usurpations? What a joke. They just don't want people to steal their thunder, and rightly so. Most people don't.
Since when does NSI own ALL the domain names? Sure, they claim their legal rights to the ones they register, but have you not noticed all the other registrars out there? There are hundreds, and some of them are pretty DAMN good. Like, my personal favorite Domain Monger (www.domainmonger.com).
So, NSI really does not own ALL the domains - they simply have legal rights (as in the agreement) to any domain they register; this is why I don't register with them - well, that and because they cost twice as much, and give half the service, as Domain Monger.
Ahhh yes, I can see it now. At the testing launch millions will die because several billion magnents will be flying all over the place. Cryogen solution will also stream out, and cover the onlookers.:-) Of course "The crucial thing, says Millis, is whether Goodwin's magnet would produce any net motion at all--it might just sit there and vibrate."
One can beleive in the Constitution and still condemn what some people say.
Whoever first put them in old car radio sets... probably. That is where the word came from.
The real question is: What good is a site that sells dog shit?
I did.
*Backs away in shame*
If governments began to regulate the internet, you would more than likely see the days of old revived. Bulliten Board Services (Bobcat, PowerBBS, etc) would begin to spring up, but, of course, they would be more advanced and more accessible. I think that now people have gotten a taste of the internet they will not give it up with a nod and a wink. The underground would flourish - peer to peer connections would soar, thus cutting out the middle men, and evading regulation. Either way, it is my belief that the government can do what they will, but the people will find a way around it.
It may be common, but really, does saying "get used to it" solve anything? No. It is not a constructive way to deal with problems. What we need to do is find a solution, not just "get used to it."
I think the real problem is insuring its reliability. Look at the current "big" distributed programs running now... SETI, Distributed.net, Processtree (the free ones), et al.. There are some very dedicated users who do it for no reason other than to help a cause; you will find this in nearly every project. However, this does not make for a *very* stable and reliable "backbone", as it were.
2. How do you index this thing? Centralised or distributed? Who controls it if central?
Distriubted with a series of "central" directory servers would probably be the best bet. That is not really a great problem - all it needs is a few hours (days) of good thinking, and a little testing and a good system would be worked out quickly.
3. How do you clean up old stuff no one wants? Once your file(s) are copied numerous times, you are going to have extra overhead everywhere. Or can you send a command to all computers connected to delete said file?
Files that no one wants? I don't think they exist. People (read: some people) will generally find uses for the most obsolete things (I.e. look at all the interest in old (read: vintage) games that companies won't release to the public. There is demand, just not huge. That does not nullify the fact that the demand exists. Also, several locations of the same file will not be a bad thing, per se, like Napster, it will make it easier to get it more quickly, and without worry about downloading it from some server in the middle of Russia. The more the merrier.
Cheers,
Fran
Maybe in their hubris of thinking that their servers were unhackable they lacked the foresight to have backups of the characters and *really* good log files. Talk about putting one's foot in one's mouth. It happens to so many people/companies..... get really good in one area, and let all the others wane. Shame.
Here is arguably the best MUD site on the internet. It has listings for thouands of fantastic games. http://www.mudconnector.com
Happy New Year!
Dear World, Thanks for all you have allowed the human race to experience! It has truly been a spectacular ride this far. I could wax philosophical feelings right now - but I won't. Instead, I would like to say hello to all the people in my life who mean the most to me. My few friends, and my many enemies - for they too make up a part of me. I love you all. Happy New Year: Mom, Dad, Jim, Mr. Maloy (greatest physics teacher ever) Mrs. Teagarden, Mr. Volek, Katy, Jessica, Anthony, Joey, Kacey, and everyone else in the world. Let's make life a little better every day.
Exactly. And this almost ties in with the fundamentals of modern technology. Sure, the lightbulb was (and is) fantastic, but more importantly it gave way to things that are now implemented in current technologies. Perhaps the writer of the article errs when he defferentiates between the two. One merely plays off of the other - no single era's produtcs can then be considered greater than another's.
... that internet companies are bloated and full of hubris. Whose ego is fueling these fires? I really do not comprehend how people think they have any right to patent something as universal as a thumbnail gallery. That is no different than claming to have created the photo album or any other convienent image bank. What a joke.
What needs to be seen is the Patent Office of the United States to crawl out of their shallow hole and discover the world out there is teeming with dynamic ideas, and that somtimes (read: most of the time) patents are entirely uncalled for. They do little but symie the world at large. *sigh* I feel sad and depressed all over again. Will humans never learn?
This sounds great to me - I am a huge proponent of the space program, and I truly hope that someday [soon] we have humans living among the stars. However, I think that President Clinton needs to be asked the question "What about private organizations?" I think very highly of NASA, and other government funded space agencies, but in earnest, I feel the private sector would take great strides in space development. After all - they are after profit. What better fuel to feel the money hungry? Fierce competition will instantly sprout up, and soon, costs will be reduced so drastically that people will be able to celebrate Christmas on the moon. The private sector has always done great things for technology/economy in the past and I believe it is time to let that private sector go as far as it wants.
Now we know why NASA has been screwing things up lately! The map (linked above) is clearly an indication that NASA (and other space agencies) are using Windows. The problem: they play Minesweeper instead of the "Mission Control" game. *grin*
There was also that time that they posted the story for the (fasle) comapny who claimed to be manufacturing SETI "expansion boards" and selling them to the public. Turns out that due to the huge amount of people /. directed to the (false, but VERY convincing) site, the people who ran the site collected sensitive credit card information. People actually placed orders. Of course, the next day the (false) site confessed that it was a joke. Interesting though, how people took /. with such high regard.
I do agree that algorthim development is greatly important, but that is not to say that we should discount the idea of making the physical drvies more massive. Both are important.
The same principle I mentioned in my (above) post can be likened to modern medicine. If some british scientists hadn't asked what a certian green fungi was, we would today not have penicillin. The same idea can be applied to many many things - progress is good. Understanding more is good - not "pointless."
What do you mean "What's the point?" The point is, we must continue to go for higher densities, otherwise storage technology (one facet of it at least) would stagnent - and that is rarely a good thing. What if, several years ago, looked at a nice floppy disk and said "What's the point? We've got plenty of hard drive space already."? Would we today have the 70GB drives we have? No, I don't think so. The idea is not to look at technology and say it is good enough - the idea is to keep on pushing the envelope, testing the limites of the world as we know it, in hopes of constnatly making things better.
Like other have said, other organisms can (and many do) have more base pairs than we do - just like they have more chromosomes. For instant, a fern plant has something in the ballpark of 1200 chromosomes! Compared to us, you would think the fern is a super-being. However, there is much less information per chromosome in the fern, whereas in a human chromosome, the information is much more dense. It is nature's way of making things more efficient perhaps. Just because there is more "Stuff" there, that doesn't mean there is more information in the stuff. Remember, quality, not quanity. :)
But what about the logo? Sorry for the lack of thought, or a more detailed reply, but I am in school getting ready for a presentation in my Humanities class. :) Maybe I'll catch up with the thread when I get home.
First of all, what rights are you refering to? The right to use copyrighted material for your own cause, without permission from the owner of the copyright? Oh yeah, I forgot about that right. Regardless of the money factor, Apple does have a right to things that originated from them. I don't care if it aligns them with open source or not - the fact remains, you don't (nor does anyone else) have a RIGHT to their material. If they decide to let you use it/have it, that is ther prerogative, but for the time being, they are not letting that happen.
You also have to understand this fact: Apple is a BUSINESS. Last time I checked, businesses were in the business (ha ha, pun!) of making money. Sure, a side effect of that may be that the consumer is elated, but it is by no means a requirement of the company to please every person on the earth - or give away their material. Sure, it would be nice, but they don't have to, and you (or anyone else) certianly do not have a RIGHT to anything of that nature.
Silent encroachments of those in power and sudden usurpations? What a joke. They just don't want people to steal their thunder, and rightly so. Most people don't.
So, NSI really does not own ALL the domains - they simply have legal rights (as in the agreement) to any domain they register; this is why I don't register with them - well, that and because they cost twice as much, and give half the service, as Domain Monger.
*grin* Hehe, you shouldn't have posted AC - you could have gotten some karma! hehehe
So heck, I could be wrong. *grins*
I meant to type "South WEST" sky. My bad! :)