How long would it take to Google "Solid-State Disk" and link the first company that comes up? Not long, I think. Maybe for you, but for humans...
Your ilk are the reason Bob Dobbs had to point out that the realm of subgenius is not simply the realm just beneath the genius but actually extends *far below* it.
Sorry to take so long to get back, but I was tring to find the info for *both* the kinds of SSD we've tried here. But I could only find the one. Funny, if you Google SSD, it'll be the first thing you'll find, so I'm sure you'll claim that's where I got it. It was the TMS RAM-SAN.
Can't seem to find the info on the other...it was like Armadillo Systems or something like that. Ultimately doesn't matter much. Didn't perform very well.
OH, you total fuckwad. I've been waiting for you to show your hand. And now, you have, you little troll, you. Of course I remember Moon Unit's Valley Girl. But then again, I remember FRANK Zappa and the Mothers. I've even performed on the same bill as one of the musicians -- Col. Bruce Hampton (Ret.) -- who recorded on Lumpy Gravy. That was a little before Moon Unit hit the scene tho:)
If you think remembering Moon Unit or even Dweezil is the measure of having been on the scene long emough, I think I grandfather clause that by quite a bit.
And my comments about error handling had to do with LiZard, not Caldera's admittedly poor distro or the kernel that propped it up. At a time when I was trying to use some packages like Squid, I wanted something a little easier to configure, and a friend (who I think has some minute bit of his code in a kernel printer driver) suggested I try Caldera. I think he did it because he thought text-mode was too much for me at my level of inexperience, and he probably was right. Because then I was still pretty new to Linux and to anything not MS. But LiZard was not the ticket.
Now, even a dipshit like you can put two and together and figure out how long I've been learning Linux if you figure out when LiZard first hit the scene and match that with my saying I was "pretty new" to Linux at that time. While that by no means makes me a wizened kernel hacker, it should at least clear the air from you n00b FUD. Not that it matters. I had sworn to myself not to respond to you anymore, but the Moon Unit bit pissed me off. My guitar wants to kill yer mama!
His itinerary includes a brief stop-over in Utah, during which time he will hunt down Darl McBride and maul his body beyond recognition. His court defense will be temporary sanity and David Boies will merrily defend him to acquittal.
Uhh... whatever. I tried using their graphical installer its first time around (don't laugh... I was trying out the distro as I never had before -- only knew Debian and Slack up till then. It did not pass muster.) and it sucked big time. I tried it on four different HW configs and it failed each in new and disgusting ways. The error handling was absolutely non-existent. What a total piece of shite.
"...all they can do is try and sell us more hardware at marginal discounts, and pressure us to migrate our application to WebSphere."
I have to second this. My experiences with their "business integration services" team has left me feeling like they just wanted to sell some kit and get us to develop for thier platform exclusively. I also couldn't help but get the feeling as they delved into our business model that they were just a little too keen on the specifics of a few of our major annually-renewable development contracts. Six months after our initial sessions, two out of our four top contracts had been approached by large project managemet firms like Lockheed-Martin's integration management division, each aligned with IBM about getting top-level control of these contracts. It made me wonder if our PMs hadn't been a little too forthcoming with some details. No matter, we retained the contracts.
OTOH, in all fairness, we did buy a little bit of the kit they were pimping and, while at times a little finnicky to set up, the models we've tried (x325, x345) have out-perfomed similar kit from other vendors. But then again, the IBM kit costs more for similar spec too. I personally would like to try some of their larger, more scalable/partitionable kit.
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Well, let me daemonstrate my ignorance, then.
Do you have to have every sentence that uses diction above the fourth-grade level explained to you? When I spoke about when to use fsck and when to use CHKDSK, I was talking about when to run Redmond OSes and when to run *nix-like OSes, you complete retard. It's a literary device -- using the part to represent the whole. It's called litotes and has been around since before the days of the Roman republic, for crying out loud. Be sure to lick the spoon clean.
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Ironic, that the one implying the other has no real identity is the same one (ipse ipsum!) who is too pusillanimous to post using his, if, in truth, he has any! AC indeed.
Again ironic, and for your information, jackass, I was fscking a NetBSD installation at the precise moment, the exact time I wrote that. Using it with a non-trivial SAMBA setup (that was suggested to me by one of the maintainers... uhhh SAMBA, not NetBSD) to keep a private client from using the nasty NT and paying too much for what he wants to do and being insecure at the same time. You see, I know when you can afford to use CHKDSK and when you can't afford not to use fsck. Everybody uses the BSD stack; some are just better at it than others and so admit it.
Also for your edification, I neither pursued nor attained a degree in music; I took the equivalent of three full years of Jazz instruction (and paid for it and my regular tuition from playing with several groups) at the same time I was getting my degree because I wanted to learn/live music, not teach it, dipshit. Some things you do out of necessity (or at least pragmatism), some out of love.
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Actually, I can guaran-fsckin-tee you I know much about this. I studied on it all the way thru high school and several yaers in college. Why? Because I love american music (not just jazz/blues but also appalachian, american folk, bluegrass, true country, gospel etc). It seems all you can do is stand around and bitch about what you suspect others are fakin' or mistakin'. I wasn't totally OT, I was agreeing with another poster who correctly pointed out that the earlier poster made an inaccurate analogy. But I'm sure it was so far above your head it was an honest mistake.
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I was hoping somebody knew that. Most indigenous musics of Africa are semi-toned, having roughtly twice as many subdivisions (more or less, depending on where you go) to the octave. This was half of the magical equation that gave us Jazz and Blues. The other half was Latin and European instruments being made available to African Americans who still knew the modes of the homeland, having passed several generations of slaves and to freedmen. The end of the Civil War saw the breakup of many a military band and suddenly these instruments were available in abundance and cheap.
At the same time they were being taught the songs of the homeland, these African Americans were also being exposed to European music and tonalities in the plantation parlors. When they got their hands on these instruments only designed for twelve-tone octaves, they mimicked the twelve-tone counterpoints they had heard in the parlors. But soon, they began commonly using adjacent half-step tones in interesting places not suggested readily by stacking thirds. On instruments a little less "well-tempered", the use of slurs or bends between these same points in the scales became prevalent. They were trying to play the in-between notes they remembered on instruments that were never meant to make them! This somewhat discordant (to the unaccustomed ear) sound became a staple in popular music and has dominated genre after genre ever since.
Actually, punk, I think I said the majority opinion overall tended to be wrong in this instance.
Can't even RTFC... but what the hell -- any chance to malign me is worth it.
BTW -- I'll consider the opinions of those showing low IDs over those showing low IQs any day. If you think so lowly of the ol'./, I have to wonder why you make it over to harass me every time I post. Do you feel it is your civic duty? If so, please consider time served as having paid off any debt you might owe society. You are now and hereby absolved and may end your hopeless life any time you choose.
Exclude me from this thread, then take the mean average slashID of the responders to your blurt. I mean, we've got some oldies but goodies weighing in here, and they aren't agreeing with you.
Honestly, I'm absolutely floored at the number of people in the larger thread weighing in for Apple and for dilution or complete dissolution of OG's influence in the community. OG is about standards and compatibility. A lot of your newly-converted Free Software lovers don't care that much about it, but it is because they take it for granted. The entire community has evolved in an atmosphere that not only encourages standards compliance but mandates it.
Even if Apple had a point that the UNIX trademark had been nullified (which it surely does not!), advocating the abolition of OG's authority in this arena is a Bad Thing. Sure, the nouveau-freebie generation doesn't understand the need for standards in this arena, and they don't want to be encumbered by that need. But that doesn't mean the need isn't there. If you don't want to be certified UNIX standards compliant, then don't bother. But don't use the UNIX compliance trademark if you aren't. It's really much more simple than everyone is trying to make it. And on this one, Apple is dead-to-rights in the wrong.
OK, nobody here wants to listen to us swap insults and beat our chests. But I'll do my best to accomodate your need you spew bile and recieve feedback for it. I have replied to your comment with a jornal entry. Against my better judgement, I have even enabled comments on it.
No, Dud, I'm not gettin' a Dell today. I have more of their kit than I care to. Set up two full racks last week. But whatever the boss wants, the boss gets. Today, I'm taking delivery of two Teradata NCR racks and meeting with a Liebert rep to get a new standalone power unit and two separate natural gas generators to hold up my facility and HVAC units.
It's pretty amusing to watch you congratulate yourself on a your own OT pointless post.... not.
Why would you post this AC? That is the most insightful, informative comment I've heard anybody come up with regarding this whole mess. As much as I don't like to hear it, it sure does make alot of sense that that could be the strategy (and even the specifics) in this mess.
Caldera would've had every right to use BSD-licensed components (and the IP stack would be a good choice!) in their proprietary implementations, and could easily have set it up to where it was stipulated that this not be divulged outside of an NDA. That could constitute a "trade secret" of sorts. And even though the BSD code is available for review by anyone who agrees to the license, if anyone "hinted" that that particular code be examined very carefully for ideas, then there could not only be a valid argument, but it may even be something we could see IBM doing. And who would blame them (except SCO who was already using the secret ingredient themselves and didn't want the cat out of the bag)?
However, if this is the case, once the genie is out of the bottle, you surely can't very well put it back in, and the OSS developers also couldn't possibly be held accountable for reviewing code published under that educational-type license and having learned from it. In such a case, sole remedy would be due of the one entwined in the NDA and the OSS community at large would feel no sting and, I dare say, wouldn't have to change any code either since the source of the information would have been legit even if the source of inspiration was less than. But Calde^H^H^H^H^HSCO probably would like to spread the FUD as wide as it can while it can.
If this scenario turns out to be true (that SCO 'borrowed' pieces of BSD-licensed methodologies and then called the unique implementations of them trade secrets), it would be very interesting to see WHEN these adoptions were selected and committed to SCO's own tree. If the history were recent enough, IBM may be able to not only point out that the information was freely available, but that SCO baited them into it (as a way to thwart their growing relationship with OSS and a way to backdoor Linux from at least a PR standpoint) -- doing something that was blatantly and obviously unoriginal at its roots (but in a way that was cleverly protected by the NDA), waving it under the nose of Big Blue and then seeing how long it took to find its way into the CVS commits. It makes me think of the Beastie Boys.
I can't stand it... I know ya planned it
Either way, any Judge that could be convinced that this is the way it went down would probably also feel like SCO deserves what they got. You just don't dare the big guy on the block to take your lunch money... what're you gonna do about it?
If I am accusing "people", then they must assume they are more than one, mustn't they?
Not to mention that referring to yourself as even "person" in the singular smacks of delusions of grandeur, or at the very least hysteron-proteron. Make the evolutionary step, then claim the victory.
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How long would it take to Google "Solid-State Disk" and link the first company that comes up? Not long, I think. Maybe for you, but for humans...
Your ilk are the reason Bob Dobbs had to point out that the realm of subgenius is not simply the realm just beneath the genius but actually extends *far below* it.
Sorry to take so long to get back, but I was tring to find the info for *both* the kinds of SSD we've tried here. But I could only find the one. Funny, if you Google SSD, it'll be the first thing you'll find, so I'm sure you'll claim that's where I got it. It was the TMS RAM-SAN.
Can't seem to find the info on the other...it was like Armadillo Systems or something like that. Ultimately doesn't matter much. Didn't perform very well.
It's a joke, laugh.
Actually, we've tested quite a bit of the memory disk solutions here. Haven't really been able to get performance to justify the cost though.
Glad to see your Googlin's up to par, tho.
It's ok except that they're putting their pagefile on it!
OH, you total fuckwad. I've been waiting for you to show your hand. And now, you have, you little troll, you. Of course I remember Moon Unit's Valley Girl. But then again, I remember FRANK Zappa and the Mothers. I've even performed on the same bill as one of the musicians -- Col. Bruce Hampton (Ret.) -- who recorded on Lumpy Gravy. That was a little before Moon Unit hit the scene tho :)
If you think remembering Moon Unit or even Dweezil is the measure of having been on the scene long emough, I think I grandfather clause that by quite a bit.
And my comments about error handling had to do with LiZard, not Caldera's admittedly poor distro or the kernel that propped it up. At a time when I was trying to use some packages like Squid, I wanted something a little easier to configure, and a friend (who I think has some minute bit of his code in a kernel printer driver) suggested I try Caldera. I think he did it because he thought text-mode was too much for me at my level of inexperience, and he probably was right. Because then I was still pretty new to Linux and to anything not MS. But LiZard was not the ticket.
Now, even a dipshit like you can put two and together and figure out how long I've been learning Linux if you figure out when LiZard first hit the scene and match that with my saying I was "pretty new" to Linux at that time. While that by no means makes me a wizened kernel hacker, it should at least clear the air from you n00b FUD. Not that it matters. I had sworn to myself not to respond to you anymore, but the Moon Unit bit pissed me off. My guitar wants to kill yer mama!
His itinerary includes a brief stop-over in Utah, during which time he will hunt down Darl McBride and maul his body beyond recognition. His court defense will be temporary sanity and David Boies will merrily defend him to acquittal.
Uhh... whatever. I tried using their graphical installer its first time around (don't laugh... I was trying out the distro as I never had before -- only knew Debian and Slack up till then. It did not pass muster.) and it sucked big time. I tried it on four different HW configs and it failed each in new and disgusting ways. The error handling was absolutely non-existent. What a total piece of shite.
OTOH, in all fairness, we did buy a little bit of the kit they were pimping and, while at times a little finnicky to set up, the models we've tried (x325, x345) have out-perfomed similar kit from other vendors. But then again, the IBM kit costs more for similar spec too. I personally would like to try some of their larger, more scalable/partitionable kit.
Well, let me daemonstrate my ignorance, then.
Do you have to have every sentence that uses diction above the fourth-grade level explained to you? When I spoke about when to use fsck and when to use CHKDSK, I was talking about when to run Redmond OSes and when to run *nix-like OSes, you complete retard. It's a literary device -- using the part to represent the whole. It's called litotes and has been around since before the days of the Roman republic, for crying out loud. Be sure to lick the spoon clean.
Actually, I'm generated by a bot.
Ironic, that the one implying the other has no real identity is the same one (ipse ipsum!) who is too pusillanimous to post using his, if, in truth, he has any! AC indeed.
Again ironic, and for your information, jackass, I was fscking a NetBSD installation at the precise moment, the exact time I wrote that. Using it with a non-trivial SAMBA setup (that was suggested to me by one of the maintainers... uhhh SAMBA, not NetBSD) to keep a private client from using the nasty NT and paying too much for what he wants to do and being insecure at the same time. You see, I know when you can afford to use CHKDSK and when you can't afford not to use fsck. Everybody uses the BSD stack; some are just better at it than others and so admit it.
Also for your edification, I neither pursued nor attained a degree in music; I took the equivalent of three full years of Jazz instruction (and paid for it and my regular tuition from playing with several groups) at the same time I was getting my degree because I wanted to learn/live music, not teach it, dipshit. Some things you do out of necessity (or at least pragmatism), some out of love.
Actually, I can guaran-fsckin-tee you I know much about this. I studied on it all the way thru high school and several yaers in college. Why? Because I love american music (not just jazz/blues but also appalachian, american folk, bluegrass, true country, gospel etc). It seems all you can do is stand around and bitch about what you suspect others are fakin' or mistakin'. I wasn't totally OT, I was agreeing with another poster who correctly pointed out that the earlier poster made an inaccurate analogy. But I'm sure it was so far above your head it was an honest mistake.
It is you who needs to STFU.
They can't say we didn't tell them, SCO.
I was hoping somebody knew that. Most indigenous musics of Africa are semi-toned, having roughtly twice as many subdivisions (more or less, depending on where you go) to the octave. This was half of the magical equation that gave us Jazz and Blues. The other half was Latin and European instruments being made available to African Americans who still knew the modes of the homeland, having passed several generations of slaves and to freedmen. The end of the Civil War saw the breakup of many a military band and suddenly these instruments were available in abundance and cheap.
At the same time they were being taught the songs of the homeland, these African Americans were also being exposed to European music and tonalities in the plantation parlors. When they got their hands on these instruments only designed for twelve-tone octaves, they mimicked the twelve-tone counterpoints they had heard in the parlors. But soon, they began commonly using adjacent half-step tones in interesting places not suggested readily by stacking thirds. On instruments a little less "well-tempered", the use of slurs or bends between these same points in the scales became prevalent. They were trying to play the in-between notes they remembered on instruments that were never meant to make them! This somewhat discordant (to the unaccustomed ear) sound became a staple in popular music and has dominated genre after genre ever since.
Actually, punk, I think I said the majority opinion overall tended to be wrong in this instance.
./, I have to wonder why you make it over to harass me every time I post. Do you feel it is your civic duty? If so, please consider time served as having paid off any debt you might owe society. You are now and hereby absolved and may end your hopeless life any time you choose.
Can't even RTFC... but what the hell -- any chance to malign me is worth it.
BTW -- I'll consider the opinions of those showing low IDs over those showing low IQs any day. If you think so lowly of the ol'
Man... think before you speak.
Exclude me from this thread, then take the mean average slashID of the responders to your blurt. I mean, we've got some oldies but goodies weighing in here, and they aren't agreeing with you.
Honestly, I'm absolutely floored at the number of people in the larger thread weighing in for Apple and for dilution or complete dissolution of OG's influence in the community. OG is about standards and compatibility. A lot of your newly-converted Free Software lovers don't care that much about it, but it is because they take it for granted. The entire community has evolved in an atmosphere that not only encourages standards compliance but mandates it.
Even if Apple had a point that the UNIX trademark had been nullified (which it surely does not!), advocating the abolition of OG's authority in this arena is a Bad Thing. Sure, the nouveau-freebie generation doesn't understand the need for standards in this arena, and they don't want to be encumbered by that need. But that doesn't mean the need isn't there. If you don't want to be certified UNIX standards compliant, then don't bother. But don't use the UNIX compliance trademark if you aren't. It's really much more simple than everyone is trying to make it. And on this one, Apple is dead-to-rights in the wrong.
OK, nobody here wants to listen to us swap insults and beat our chests. But I'll do my best to accomodate your need you spew bile and recieve feedback for it. I have replied to your comment with a jornal entry. Against my better judgement, I have even enabled comments on it.
Knock yourself out.
Busy day today, so I'll make this short.
No, Dud, I'm not gettin' a Dell today. I have more of their kit than I care to. Set up two full racks last week. But whatever the boss wants, the boss gets. Today, I'm taking delivery of two Teradata NCR racks and meeting with a Liebert rep to get a new standalone power unit and two separate natural gas generators to hold up my facility and HVAC units.
It's pretty amusing to watch you congratulate yourself on a your own OT pointless post.... not.
Oh well, there's the truck. gotta go. Ta-ta.
To be accurate, I said it was the most insightful comment I've seen on this topic.
Oh, god. Made a typo while making a keyboard ad-hominem attack, Can't wait to see what that gets me.
Really, AC, Give it a reast. I was cursing Orem slack when you were learning how to plug in a keyboard.
You, sir, are absolutely right. The NDAs limitations violate the GPL which SCOLDERA has already agreed to.
Dude:
Why would you post this AC? That is the most insightful, informative comment I've heard anybody come up with regarding this whole mess. As much as I don't like to hear it, it sure does make alot of sense that that could be the strategy (and even the specifics) in this mess.
Caldera would've had every right to use BSD-licensed components (and the IP stack would be a good choice!) in their proprietary implementations, and could easily have set it up to where it was stipulated that this not be divulged outside of an NDA. That could constitute a "trade secret" of sorts. And even though the BSD code is available for review by anyone who agrees to the license, if anyone "hinted" that that particular code be examined very carefully for ideas, then there could not only be a valid argument, but it may even be something we could see IBM doing. And who would blame them (except SCO who was already using the secret ingredient themselves and didn't want the cat out of the bag)?
However, if this is the case, once the genie is out of the bottle, you surely can't very well put it back in, and the OSS developers also couldn't possibly be held accountable for reviewing code published under that educational-type license and having learned from it. In such a case, sole remedy would be due of the one entwined in the NDA and the OSS community at large would feel no sting and, I dare say, wouldn't have to change any code either since the source of the information would have been legit even if the source of inspiration was less than. But Calde^H^H^H^H^HSCO probably would like to spread the FUD as wide as it can while it can.
If this scenario turns out to be true (that SCO 'borrowed' pieces of BSD-licensed methodologies and then called the unique implementations of them trade secrets), it would be very interesting to see WHEN these adoptions were selected and committed to SCO's own tree. If the history were recent enough, IBM may be able to not only point out that the information was freely available, but that SCO baited them into it (as a way to thwart their growing relationship with OSS and a way to backdoor Linux from at least a PR standpoint) -- doing something that was blatantly and obviously unoriginal at its roots (but in a way that was cleverly protected by the NDA), waving it under the nose of Big Blue and then seeing how long it took to find its way into the CVS commits. It makes me think of the Beastie Boys.
I can't stand it... I know ya planned it
Either way, any Judge that could be convinced that this is the way it went down would probably also feel like SCO deserves what they got. You just don't dare the big guy on the block to take your lunch money... what're you gonna do about it?
IANAL, but what you said made sense to me
Aren't you confirming what I just said?
If I am accusing "people", then they must assume they are more than one, mustn't they?
Not to mention that referring to yourself as even "person" in the singular smacks of delusions of grandeur, or at the very least hysteron-proteron. Make the evolutionary step, then claim the victory.
Man, talk about your multiple personailities!
You didn't mean to post this to me.... you were really talking to your tsarkon alter-ego.