oh how terrible. Words you were told were 'bad' by your parents/society still cause you such harm that... seriously? Grow a pair.
what part of having/not having an account would prevent overly sensitive sorts like yourself from modding it down?..and the term 'trolling' now has no meaning because, nowadays, it is mostly used to mislabel statements one doesn't agree with as an ad hom attack.
Actually if you'd get your head out of that pop dichotomy there, you'd realize reality is what it is. it is not 'positive' or 'negative.' Everyone has different expectations and some are harder to please than others. People who label hard to please people as 'negative', are really the insecure ones because they let others' judgements affect their own perceptions.
Well some of us do more with a computer than check up on the latest kardashian kraze and failbook. While we have browser preferences, we tend to choose the one that has the plugins we need, even if it is technically inferior software.
I agree with the OP. Windows 8 is actually very nice. What new features other than metro/modern ui? Well this may seem small, but i find it really useful. The new advanced menu, which you right click where the start menu corner is and it opens up a menu to go right to add/remove programs, disk management, event viewer, command prompt, command prompt (admin rights), run, task manager, device manager, system manager, search and more.
this exists more or less on previous versions of windows, and you don't have to right click anything. It's right there in the start menu or can be easily added. These are little more than defaults, hardly worthy of 'feature' status.
The new navigational workflow of windows 8 is more gestural than it has ever been and I welcome that. I use programs like Autodesk Maya, Softimage, Mudbox etc daily and mouse gesturing is common. I Always use mouse gestures in chrome and firefox. Windows 8 feels more fluid because clicking corners top and bottom left is very gestural now.
Mouse gesturing gets in the way because it almost always triggers behavior I don't want. Whenever and whereever possible, I disable it. even the stupid stuff that came with windows 7 (drag to top/left/right, aero shake etc) was so aggravating they were among the first things tweaked after install.
I find the new file explorer to be better, and the new copy process with the ability to pause and prioritize them is very nice. The new task manager is excellent. It now shows you what programs effect your start up performance and allows you to disable/enable tthem in the start menu rather than through the old msconfig ui. The resource usage info is much better in the task manager.
or you know, they could give us back the file IO performance we had in windows 2k/xp, lost in vista, and never really got back. The next task manager is awful.. more clicking to get at useful info. the default panel is basically blank!.
Multi Monitor support is much better, theres some new options that really help.
easily added as a hotfix or service pack to 7.
The new start menu is actually very nice. Live tiles are very useful. It makes sense that its full screen, because you rarely go into the new start menu unless you need to specifically. NOW you really just use the taskbar, and file explorer. I'm still amazed how many people dont know how to use a file manager. I think its a good thing that they can no longer click start and go to my documents. Its about time they learn what a file manager is.
metro doesn't handle multiscreens well at all and it is clunky and slow in terms of finding needed applications. Really, on a desktop, a simple menu that sits in a corner is far better. This overwrought interface reminds me of ms bob and that packard bell navigator..
Anyways Windows 8 is pretty nice, and I think people are unfairly biased against it for various reasons, one of which is people hate to see MS do something innovative and do it fairly well and some people just dont like change, even small changes like windows 8.
No. people hate the new interface because it makes too many compromises for portable touch platforms..and seriously, who's going to want fingerprints all over their 23" desktop display, or want to deal with holding their hands in such unnatural positions while sitting at a desk?
Windows 7 was the best version of windows in a long time. Windows 8 is actually better, but its a change for people and some people just are not giving it a fair chance. I spent over 6 hours just playing with it to really find every trick i could... and it did take some time for me to figure out how to fluidly use it as it was intended, but once I did, I really had that smile on my face when you know something is pretty brilliant. It works, and it does it well.
most people don't have or maintain those backups though.. so they're shit out of luck and without recourse.. they can't just order a replacement disk... and that's the stickler: apple 'allows' you to.. the old model allowed at least some form of intrinsic ownership. This one does not, and the 'cloud' based stuff is even less reliable.
Simple. you could write the license that includes access to source code and charge a fee for it. No DRM is required. If you had DRM, it would just get cracked anyway.. It's really pointless to bother with.
as opposed to one giant monolithic undocumented database that comes with a shitty ass linear search as the only way to find anything? config files can be their own kind of hell, but the registry is far far worse.
1. appstore applications can still be open source/gpl.
2. he's right that app stores are basically drm disguised as convenience. They are turning the internet and computer use into cable television. Most worryingly, the control over the software users depend on is centralizing more and more, keeping them dependent on the vendor's continued existence and market expectations. Thus the users can no longer depend on their tools being consistent or even available in the long run. They can also expect to deal with recurring charges in order to retain access. These are the principle changes that contrast computing in the 90s as a way of empowerment to computing today as a way of enslavement.
3. I don't mind if developers want to make some cash, but they shouldn't be given the ability to indian-give. Unfortunately, app stores allow the technical enforcement of draconian licensing, and they can revoke purchases at any time. If you still don't get it, then think about it this way: what if the users could rescind their payments any time they like, straight out of your bank account? How would you feel about the security of your finances?
Well, extraditing EU citizens to US courts over 'piracy', and engaging in cooperative KGB style monitoring programs come to mind...and actually iirc several european countries initially backed us during the iraq idiocy.
The only thing universal healthcare brought you was waiting lines and mediocre care if you're in any country but norway/sweden/denmark and maybe the UK. You give up so much control over your existences for this and other handouts and I do not understand why. Do you really want to end up like greece?..or hell, the USA 20-40 years from now, as it slides into its new status as a chinese satellite?
Yes, that's true, and then we have the hippie tree huggers on the left who think every nuclear plant = chernobyl while they're ignorant about the unbelievable damage all those batteries in their priuses do to the environment when they're 'recycled.' Also, don't forget the PETA/ASPCA lunatics who think we should subsist on insects and grass because hurting 'innocent' animals should be a crime. These are the same kinds of people who think 'free love' is just so wonderful because the state will take care of all the unwanted babies that result when mommy says "oh life is just so wonderful I'm keeping my baby," and "daddy, you're paying the bills" when he doesn't have the money. Of course, they forget that all these mouths will put even more stress on the environment, justifying their resource stratification and control mantras even more.
yeah, lots of sensible solutions, attitudes, and solutions from the party fuckwits..
Remember kids, this is why critical thinking is important. It prevents any one ideology from dominating your mindset for any serious length of time. Anything else is no different than religious idiocy.
Well, I do. People like you sit there on your asses and say how the average american is brainwashed by foxnews, yet you believe and trust that all the anti-US sentiment spewed by your (relatively speaking) state controlled media is justified? If the average european was truly intellectually superior, he'd know that most if not all western media is full of self-serving, preachy bullshit. Why do your countries keep doing the US' bidding anyway? Grow a pair already and stand up for yourselves, or is the collective western european culture even more panty waisted than the most stridently politically correct US citizen?
Hi. Yeah, and usher in the radiant socialist future where everyone is happy and equal and one with the earth, even if it means cutting down/neutering those who actually are better in some context for the sake of feelings/'community cohesion' and the court of oprahtic opinion. Oh wait, that's right, the democrats are just as fucking useless. They'd squander our resources on stupid shit as well, like bailing out backwater countries while they demand remote control of our cars, refrigerators, diets, and thermostats (among other casualties of the 'smart grid'). Meanwhile what we should be doing is using our dwindling resources to get a foothold in space before they run out because that's where the motherload is. We need leaders that get this with the same strident urgency as the obamey autocrats have for maintaining the status quo as the answer.
Both parties are part of the same problem and both need to go. They are our grandparents' parties. Their opinions, motivations, and expectations are 50 years out of date.
right but you paid in the time spent learning windows/dos. if you don't want/need to upgrade or change your toolset, that's fine. most people are like that, but don't think for a minute that windows is perfection just because it's popular. then there's also the question of whether time would be saved in the long run by switching environments (to/from windows to/from something else). That depends on what you're doing with the machine.
For me, doing stuff with python is FAR easier on linux. In fact, most of the opensource toolsets and libraries simply work better there. The win32 ports are inbred cousins by comparison.. There are exceptions, but this seems to be the case.
1. how do I change the look of the login screen in windows xp? vista/7? 2. how do I get the network adapter names in network neighborhood to line up with the actual hardware devices? 3. How do I get windows to enumerate ALL of the capabilities/modes/refresh rates of my monitor? 4. How do I get windows to quit being so chatty on the network? 5. How do I track services dependencies so that I can know which ones I can safely disable and which not? with each release this has gotten harder and harder. 6. How do I track changes made to the system by installers and the programs they install? (hint it's not system restore). 7. How do I manage directshow and vfw codecs in a sane manner? 8. How do I clear ALL history from the entire system? 9. How do I get drive letters to hold to specific devices? (especially removable drives) 10. Why does directx 9 app 1 work in vista, but not 7, while directx 9 app 2 works in 7, but not vista, yet both work in xp (with the same hardware)? the compatibility tab is a nice feature, but it doesn't always work. That leaves me with juggling dlls around to build an environment the executable likes. In linux, it's generally a recompile away...maybe some simple code patching.
See these are some of the things that a unix guy would want to know, and in windows, they're non-intuitive pains in the ass. Some of these are solvable with a little tweaking in the gui, others require little utils to be searched for and downloaded off the internet and/or a ton of clunky registry editing. Editing the registry makes editing config files in vim easy by comparison, even for a newb who's never touched either. In the most extreme cases, major tweaking requires a custom install disk just like linux. Windows really isn't any more or any less complex than unixlike systems, but it is different. It boils down to what you're used to putting up with.
Yeah I know, I just don't like it. 95% of the security problems we have start with the scriptable browser. If you want an interactive application that talks to remote data sources, make one and distribute it. It's not like the current stack's attempts at virtualization/abstraction have proven any more secure. It just makes remote access applications slower and take 10x the resources it should.
yeah and their sleek prettyboxes, made of that glossy plastic that fingerprints and scratches too easily, are largely useless for anything beyond checking facebook AND they're loaded with crapware. yay!
well, maybe your real problem isn't that you need a new computer, but that you need to grow a pair so that you don't feel the need to justify everything to your wife like she's your mother.
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oh how terrible. Words you were told were 'bad' by your parents/society still cause you such harm that... seriously? Grow a pair.
what part of having/not having an account would prevent overly sensitive sorts like yourself from modding it down? ..and the term 'trolling' now has no meaning because, nowadays, it is mostly used to mislabel statements one doesn't agree with as an ad hom attack.
Most developers would love to spend christmas day hacking a new piece of hardware.. as a 6 digit UI slashdot user you should know this.
Actually if you'd get your head out of that pop dichotomy there, you'd realize reality is what it is. it is not 'positive' or 'negative.' Everyone has different expectations and some are harder to please than others. People who label hard to please people as 'negative', are really the insecure ones because they let others' judgements affect their own perceptions.
haha hilarious..
our brains..
alternatively, you could say "most people aren't aware of the serious negative side effects that come with convenient defaults."
Well some of us do more with a computer than check up on the latest kardashian kraze and failbook. While we have browser preferences, we tend to choose the one that has the plugins we need, even if it is technically inferior software.
wha? what?!?!
I agree with the OP. Windows 8 is actually very nice. What new features other than metro/modern ui? Well this may seem small, but i find it really useful. The new advanced menu, which you right click where the start menu corner is and it opens up a menu to go right to add/remove programs, disk management, event viewer, command prompt, command prompt (admin rights), run, task manager, device manager, system manager, search and more.
this exists more or less on previous versions of windows, and you don't have to right click anything. It's right there in the start menu or can be easily added. These are little more than defaults, hardly worthy of 'feature' status.
The new navigational workflow of windows 8 is more gestural than it has ever been and I welcome that. I use programs like Autodesk Maya, Softimage, Mudbox etc daily and mouse gesturing is common. I Always use mouse gestures in chrome and firefox. Windows 8 feels more fluid because clicking corners top and bottom left is very gestural now.
Mouse gesturing gets in the way because it almost always triggers behavior I don't want. Whenever and whereever possible, I disable it. even the stupid stuff that came with windows 7 (drag to top/left/right, aero shake etc) was so aggravating they were among the first things tweaked after install.
I find the new file explorer to be better, and the new copy process with the ability to pause and prioritize them is very nice. The new task manager is excellent. It now shows you what programs effect your start up performance and allows you to disable/enable tthem in the start menu rather than through the old msconfig ui. The resource usage info is much better in the task manager.
or you know, they could give us back the file IO performance we had in windows 2k/xp, lost in vista, and never really got back. The next task manager is awful.. more clicking to get at useful info. the default panel is basically blank!.
Multi Monitor support is much better, theres some new options that really help.
easily added as a hotfix or service pack to 7.
The new start menu is actually very nice. Live tiles are very useful. It makes sense that its full screen, because you rarely go into the new start menu unless you need to specifically. NOW you really just use the taskbar, and file explorer. I'm still amazed how many people dont know how to use a file manager. I think its a good thing that they can no longer click start and go to my documents. Its about time they learn what a file manager is.
metro doesn't handle multiscreens well at all and it is clunky and slow in terms of finding needed applications. Really, on a desktop, a simple menu that sits in a corner is far better. This overwrought interface reminds me of ms bob and that packard bell navigator..
Anyways Windows 8 is pretty nice, and I think people are unfairly biased against it for various reasons, one of which is people hate to see MS do something innovative and do it fairly well and some people just dont like change, even small changes like windows 8.
No. people hate the new interface because it makes too many compromises for portable touch platforms..and seriously, who's going to want fingerprints all over their 23" desktop display, or want to deal with holding their hands in such unnatural positions while sitting at a desk?
Windows 7 was the best version of windows in a long time. Windows 8 is actually better, but its a change for people and some people just are not giving it a fair chance. I spent over 6 hours just playing with it to really find every trick i could... and it did take some time for me to figure out how to fluidly use it as it was intended, but once I did, I really had that smile on my face when you know something is pretty brilliant. It works, and it does it well.
You're nuts..or astroturfing.
Joe Shmoe doesn't think that far ahead.
Neither do you apparently. At some point in the near future, secureboot will be a requirement everywhere.
for now..
most people don't have or maintain those backups though.. so they're shit out of luck and without recourse.. they can't just order a replacement disk... and that's the stickler: apple 'allows' you to.. the old model allowed at least some form of intrinsic ownership. This one does not, and the 'cloud' based stuff is even less reliable.
Simple. you could write the license that includes access to source code and charge a fee for it. No DRM is required. If you had DRM, it would just get cracked anyway.. It's really pointless to bother with.
as opposed to one giant monolithic undocumented database that comes with a shitty ass linear search as the only way to find anything? config files can be their own kind of hell, but the registry is far far worse.
He'll probably respond with something like this
1. appstore applications can still be open source/gpl.
2. he's right that app stores are basically drm disguised as convenience. They are turning the internet and computer use into cable television. Most worryingly, the control over the software users depend on is centralizing more and more, keeping them dependent on the vendor's continued existence and market expectations. Thus the users can no longer depend on their tools being consistent or even available in the long run. They can also expect to deal with recurring charges in order to retain access. These are the principle changes that contrast computing in the 90s as a way of empowerment to computing today as a way of enslavement.
3. I don't mind if developers want to make some cash, but they shouldn't be given the ability to indian-give. Unfortunately, app stores allow the technical enforcement of draconian licensing, and they can revoke purchases at any time. If you still don't get it, then think about it this way: what if the users could rescind their payments any time they like, straight out of your bank account? How would you feel about the security of your finances?
Well, extraditing EU citizens to US courts over 'piracy', and engaging in cooperative KGB style monitoring programs come to mind...and actually iirc several european countries initially backed us during the iraq idiocy.
The only thing universal healthcare brought you was waiting lines and mediocre care if you're in any country but norway/sweden/denmark and maybe the UK. You give up so much control over your existences for this and other handouts and I do not understand why. Do you really want to end up like greece? ..or hell, the USA 20-40 years from now, as it slides into its new status as a chinese satellite?
Yes, that's true, and then we have the hippie tree huggers on the left who think every nuclear plant = chernobyl while they're ignorant about the unbelievable damage all those batteries in their priuses do to the environment when they're 'recycled.' Also, don't forget the PETA/ASPCA lunatics who think we should subsist on insects and grass because hurting 'innocent' animals should be a crime. These are the same kinds of people who think 'free love' is just so wonderful because the state will take care of all the unwanted babies that result when mommy says "oh life is just so wonderful I'm keeping my baby," and "daddy, you're paying the bills" when he doesn't have the money. Of course, they forget that all these mouths will put even more stress on the environment, justifying their resource stratification and control mantras even more.
yeah, lots of sensible solutions, attitudes, and solutions from the party fuckwits..
Remember kids, this is why critical thinking is important. It prevents any one ideology from dominating your mindset for any serious length of time. Anything else is no different than religious idiocy.
Well, I do. People like you sit there on your asses and say how the average american is brainwashed by foxnews, yet you believe and trust that all the anti-US sentiment spewed by your (relatively speaking) state controlled media is justified? If the average european was truly intellectually superior, he'd know that most if not all western media is full of self-serving, preachy bullshit. Why do your countries keep doing the US' bidding anyway? Grow a pair already and stand up for yourselves, or is the collective western european culture even more panty waisted than the most stridently politically correct US citizen?
Hi. Yeah, and usher in the radiant socialist future where everyone is happy and equal and one with the earth, even if it means cutting down/neutering those who actually are better in some context for the sake of feelings/'community cohesion' and the court of oprahtic opinion. Oh wait, that's right, the democrats are just as fucking useless. They'd squander our resources on stupid shit as well, like bailing out backwater countries while they demand remote control of our cars, refrigerators, diets, and thermostats (among other casualties of the 'smart grid'). Meanwhile what we should be doing is using our dwindling resources to get a foothold in space before they run out because that's where the motherload is. We need leaders that get this with the same strident urgency as the obamey autocrats have for maintaining the status quo as the answer.
Both parties are part of the same problem and both need to go. They are our grandparents' parties. Their opinions, motivations, and expectations are 50 years out of date.
right but you paid in the time spent learning windows/dos. if you don't want/need to upgrade or change your toolset, that's fine. most people are like that, but don't think for a minute that windows is perfection just because it's popular. then there's also the question of whether time would be saved in the long run by switching environments (to/from windows to/from something else). That depends on what you're doing with the machine.
For me, doing stuff with python is FAR easier on linux. In fact, most of the opensource toolsets and libraries simply work better there. The win32 ports are inbred cousins by comparison.. There are exceptions, but this seems to be the case.
Here's a windows counterpart.
1. how do I change the look of the login screen in windows xp? vista/7?
2. how do I get the network adapter names in network neighborhood to line up with the actual hardware devices?
3. How do I get windows to enumerate ALL of the capabilities/modes/refresh rates of my monitor?
4. How do I get windows to quit being so chatty on the network?
5. How do I track services dependencies so that I can know which ones I can safely disable and which not? with each release this has gotten harder and harder.
6. How do I track changes made to the system by installers and the programs they install? (hint it's not system restore).
7. How do I manage directshow and vfw codecs in a sane manner?
8. How do I clear ALL history from the entire system?
9. How do I get drive letters to hold to specific devices? (especially removable drives)
10. Why does directx 9 app 1 work in vista, but not 7, while directx 9 app 2 works in 7, but not vista, yet both work in xp (with the same hardware)? the compatibility tab is a nice feature, but it doesn't always work. That leaves me with juggling dlls around to build an environment the executable likes. In linux, it's generally a recompile away...maybe some simple code patching.
See these are some of the things that a unix guy would want to know, and in windows, they're non-intuitive pains in the ass. Some of these are solvable with a little tweaking in the gui, others require little utils to be searched for and downloaded off the internet and/or a ton of clunky registry editing. Editing the registry makes editing config files in vim easy by comparison, even for a newb who's never touched either. In the most extreme cases, major tweaking requires a custom install disk just like linux. Windows really isn't any more or any less complex than unixlike systems, but it is different. It boils down to what you're used to putting up with.
Yeah I know, I just don't like it. 95% of the security problems we have start with the scriptable browser. If you want an interactive application that talks to remote data sources, make one and distribute it. It's not like the current stack's attempts at virtualization/abstraction have proven any more secure. It just makes remote access applications slower and take 10x the resources it should.
the same reason you are I guess..genetic luck of the draw..
javascript was never meant to do the things it's being used for now, that's why sites are so damned slow now.
yeah and their sleek prettyboxes, made of that glossy plastic that fingerprints and scratches too easily, are largely useless for anything beyond checking facebook AND they're loaded with crapware. yay!
well, maybe your real problem isn't that you need a new computer, but that you need to grow a pair so that you don't feel the need to justify everything to your wife like she's your mother.