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Richard Stallman (RMS) founded the GNU Project in 1984, the Free Software Foundation in 1985, and remains one of the most important and outspoken advocates for software freedom. RMS now spends much of his time fighting excessive extension of copyright laws, digital rights management, and software patents. He's agreed to answer your questions about GNU/Linux, free software, and anything else you like, but please limit yourself to one question per post.

573 comments

  1. Microsoft and GPL by allots · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What does RMS and other Slashdot readers think about Microsoft's recent offerings to come closer to open source model? Microsoft has Codeplex for open source code and they have made vivid and vast improvements to the Linux kernel and software stack. Is it good that open source is now working closer with Microsoft than ever before?

    1. Re:Microsoft and GPL by somersault · · Score: 4, Insightful

      they have made vivid and vast improvements to the Linux kernel

      Citation please. Preferably without bizarre marketing shill terms like "vivid improvements".

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      which is totally what she said
    2. Re:Microsoft and GPL by JigJag · · Score: 1

      Dude, you don't talk to RMS about Open-Source, he's about Free Software. Let's rephrase the question:

      What does RMS and other Slashdot readers think about Microsoft's recent offerings to come closer to free software model? Microsoft has Codeplex for free software and they have made vivid and vast improvements to the Linux kernel and software stack. Is it good that free software is now working closer with Microsoft than ever before?

      --
      "The hallmark of humanity is the ability to move beyond sensory inputs" - Mary Helen Immordino-Yang
    3. Re:Microsoft and GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No, she enjoys the punishment especially when bondage is part of the re-education process. Get off my lawn!

    4. Re:Microsoft and GPL by metlin · · Score: 3, Interesting

      On a related (if ironic) note, what are your thoughts on where Apple is headed with their walled garden approach (the merits/demerits of it notwithstanding)?

      Also, speaking of Apple, where do you see DRM and content copyright going in the coming years?

      And I am not just talking about code, but of all content in general -- publishing industry, music/media industry, user generated content etc. Are we headed in the right direction or are we all well and truly f*cked?

    5. Re:Microsoft and GPL by spikenerd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why waste time asking questions he has already answered?

    6. Re:Microsoft and GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [Microsoft] have made vivid and vast improvements to the Linux kernel and software stack.

      I know they contributed drivers for their Hyper-V product, but it appears that was required after a GPL infringement and hardly seems "vast" or "vivid".

      What other improvements have they made?

    7. Re:Microsoft and GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His reply would be: "There is no free software in Microsoft". And Codeplex is open source, not free software. The difference is that Microsoft do not want to be a free software company, but an open source company.

    8. Re:Microsoft and GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RMS,
      When was the last time you showered?
      Love,
      AC

    9. Re:Microsoft and GPL by somersault · · Score: 2

      Yeah, but I still beat the other 3.

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      which is totally what she said
    10. Re:Microsoft and GPL by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 4, Informative

      The only improvements I'm aware of are related directly to their own products - Hyper-V drivers for Linux operating systems hosted on their virtualization platform.

      Ironically, these were first contributed because of a GPL violation.

      Citation : Hyper-V submission by Microsoft

      Things seem to have gone quiet on the matter of the alleged 235 patents that Linux (and "other open source software") are supposed to violate.

    11. Re:Microsoft and GPL by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      It isn't ironic, it is the standard way things go.

      If you violate the GPL, then you don't have a license. Your whole product is a copyright violation. Only the entity who violated your copyright can forgive you. The standard method of resolution is to simply gain compliance; whatever product the plagiarized code was part of has to be released under the GPL.

      Otherwise, not only would they face an injunction against their product, they would owe 100% of past profits, plus penalties, to the copyright holder.

      And there is no legal defense, because outside of meeting the terms of the GPL, any defense would have to attack that license; and without that license, they are still un-licensed. So most arguments against the GPL couldn't even be presented in court, since you can't get a benefit by losing the right to use code that you... already used.

      Rumor was, over a decade ago, that that is why a GPL version of TripWire was released. That is also why the company didn't provide any tools for it, just the bare bones CLI. They wished they never had to release it.

    12. Re:Microsoft and GPL by Broadcatch · · Score: 1

      As others have stated, RMS works for 'free software' that gives you the freedom to do anything you want with it. A lot of 'open source' software only lets you see the source, restricting who you can share it with, what modifications you can make to it, etc.

      Another important fix to the question would be to replace 'Linux' with 'GNU/Linux' as the former refers only to the kernel which is fairly useless without any of the GNU utilities created by RMS & friends, such as gcc, bash, etc. It is IMO respectful to use the term 'GNU/Linux' and (also IMO) it is worthwhile to be respectful of RMS and the uncompromising life he leads.

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      The antidote for misuse of freedom of speech is more freedom of speech.
      -- Molly Ivins

    13. Re:Microsoft and GPL by clarkn0va · · Score: 1

      The GGGP was waxing about MS's contributions, when no evidence of any contribution has been forthcoming, save that which was required by law after they were caught infringing. That's ironic enough.

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      I am literally 3000 tokens away from the chaotic crossbow --Stephen
    14. Re:Microsoft and GPL by leromarinvit · · Score: 1

      They've added big boobs to the kernel, does that count?

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      Proud member of the Ferengi Socialist Party.
    15. Re:Microsoft and GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As others have stated, RMS works for 'free software' that gives you the freedom to do anything you want with it.

      Ah yes, the 'restrictive free software license', as opposed to the 'permissive' ones. You'd think that thousands of years of history would be enough to show that not everyone is going to have the same ideological beliefs and that obviously the most effective license would be one that allows people to choose free/non-free/open/closed but no, the small-minded ignorant GPL-advocates pontificate about how their way is the only way and if you don't like they won't co-operate, to the detriment of the end user. Perfect example is the EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL where the linking is done on the user's machine and not distributed as a derived work yet is prevented by using the GPL.

      I don't care about the free software movement, i just want stuff to work, i don't want to be used as leverage so free software advocates can push an agenda and when i release free software i don't impose restrictions on those who use it no matter what their purpose. Truly free software is about altruism and no restriction for those who support and practice a free software ideology, for those who do not and for those who do both.

    16. Re:Microsoft and GPL by somersault · · Score: 1

      Hmm.. okay, well that probably is vivid imagery to someone who spends all day hacking at C code. I may have to concede on this one.

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      which is totally what she said
    17. Re:Microsoft and GPL by Broadcatch · · Score: 1

      Free software is not about altruism the way you meant it. Free software is about freedom, and I see no reason why I can't benefit from writing free software while allowing others to benefit from extending it.

      I spent my early software days (before GNU - heck, software patents existed) writing and enhancing what was essentially free software. It was a wonderful environment, one in which everything was shared and people copied and imporoved on other people's code. Bob Miner - who wrote the first version of the Oracle database - testified to Congress that if software patents had existed, he would have been able to copy and improve upon the IBM RDB code.

      I used to be a follower of the Grateful Dead that was - for many years - the top grossing band in the world. And they actively supported the "taper community" that would make high-quality recordings of their shows that would be traded for free.

      I've spent the last ten years being paid well to install, configure and customize free software for clients ranging from Amnesty International to the Smithsonian. Every package I've delivered has included the GPL (or AGPL) stamp, and my clients have benefitted directly from that, as they are not locked into a single vendor and have a community of people enhancing their investment by adding features and fixing security holes.

      I consider the practice of software a creative art, and it is a shame that so many feel they must prevent the many from enjoying their creations so that they can extract money from the few who want exclusivity. Sad that you've been taught all these years that it is the only way to survive.

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      The antidote for misuse of freedom of speech is more freedom of speech.
      -- Molly Ivins

    18. Re:Microsoft and GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Free software is about freedom, and I see no reason why I can't benefit from writing free software while allowing others to benefit from extending it.

      And you don't need restrictive licenses to do so. You don't need to force people be a part of the free software culture if they don't want to, but you can still extend them the benefits...this may in turn lead to them adopting that philosophy. Forcing them to choose one way or the other is the way of the GPL, it is an absolutist mentality.

    19. Re:Microsoft and GPL by Creepy · · Score: 1

      And just why I don't like the GPL - it is the exact antithesis of commercial software and means anyone that writes just software needs to tie their software to hardware to make money or have donors (which usually are corporations that want exclusive rights on their platform). Wish that wasn't the nature of things, but that's the dilemma of a software only house. Sure you could port the software to other platforms, but if it were my hardware and I was incurring the cost of obtaining the software, I'd go out of my way to make this as complex as possible, and probably only add driver requirements and drivers only for a specific proprietary piece of hardware, etc. I know RMS doesn't like commercial software, but I have the same issues with commercial hardware with software written specifically for it shipped with code that is only meant to run on that hardware.

      In a perfect world, I can understand the GPL - I have worked on and still occasionally donate my time to free software including some that is GPL3, but it is just that - donated time. The job that pays me is closed source (with open specification data model).

    20. Re:Microsoft and GPL by Broadcatch · · Score: 1

      A less restrictive license would be... public domain? There's a lot of closed source, PD software (aka 'freeware') but not too much PD source code, which people usually tend to want to license in some way. The GPL will allow you to use, modify, distribute, even sell the software, but it won't let you deny others access to the source or restrict what others can do with the code. Where the GPL doesn't play nice with other more restrictive licenses, I find that is a failure more of the other licenses trying to restrict freedom than of the GPL that supports freedom. But there is a huge lobby of companies and lawyers who prefer to make their living off of caches of existing intellectual property at extortionary rates rather than actively contribute to socierty and get paid merely a reasonable wage for that work. For me, that is a failure of capitalism as currently practiced, as it supports the established wealthy that have the IP and suppresses the young revolutionary with new ideas.

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      The antidote for misuse of freedom of speech is more freedom of speech.
      -- Molly Ivins

    21. Re:Microsoft and GPL by Broadcatch · · Score: 1

      And just why I don't like the GPL - it is the exact antithesis of commercial software and means anyone that writes just software needs to tie their software to hardware to make money or have donors (which usually are corporations that want exclusive rights on their platform).

      That's not my experience at all. I work with web consulting companies supplying solutions to organizations that are tired of expensive, inflexible closed source solutions provided by Microsoft or the likes of Kintera and Convio. The initial cost of development of a sophisticated open source site is (maybe) 50% of a closed source solution, so it's certainly not free. And if the client finds that they aren't getting the service from us that they want, they can easily find another shop that can take over development or maintenance of the GPL code base running on a relatively LAMP stack. So we have no "lock in" on our clients, which behooves us to provide quality service.

      Yes, I would get paid more if I did the same work for a closed source shop. But I have to say: I like working with clients that like working with me, rather than with clients that have to work with me.

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      The antidote for misuse of freedom of speech is more freedom of speech.
      -- Molly Ivins

    22. Re:Microsoft and GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RMS has already written about this subject. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/lest-codeplex-perplex.html

  2. What was it you ate from your toe? by spiffmastercow · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Seriously, did you eat your toe cheese on stage?

    1. Re:What was it you ate from your toe? by bellers · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hes committed to only eating open sores food.

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      This space for rent.
    2. Re:What was it you ate from your toe? by zill · · Score: 3, Informative

      1:51, to save you guys some time.

    3. Re:What was it you ate from your toe? by egr · · Score: 1

      That's disgusting! I can't stand when people lick fingers, eat buggers, bite nails or chew on their earwax, but that is a new top!

    4. Re:What was it you ate from your toe? by spiffmastercow · · Score: 1

      Hes committed to only eating open sores food.

      +5 punny!

    5. Re:What was it you ate from your toe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      God I wish I had mod points at the moment. This question absolutely requires a direct response.

    6. Re:What was it you ate from your toe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh god, why don't I have mod points today?

    7. Re:What was it you ate from your toe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Oh God. Please, *please* don't ask him this. I don't want to know the answer. I don't want to think about it. This is like one of those nasty embarrassing moments that you'd only ever see on the Office.

    8. Re:What was it you ate from your toe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I actually came here to jokingly ask this. So I second this motion.

    9. Re:What was it you ate from your toe? by Digana · · Score: 1

      Aha! So this is why rms doesn't want to hear anyone talk about open sores!

    10. Re:What was it you ate from your toe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He has been seen scratching his behind and eating M&Ms with the same hand while presenting to an audience.

    11. Re:What was it you ate from your toe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      To phrase Spiffmastercow's question in better way: Do you feel that, as a prominent figure in the free software community, your poor hygeine and way you present youself may do significant harm to your cause by giving newcomers a bad impression.

      I eat toe cheese too, just in the privacy of my own home.

    12. Re:What was it you ate from your toe? by eugene+ts+wong · · Score: 1

      He doesn't eat open sores food. He only eats free food: free as in speech food; not free as in toe cheese food. I hope that clarifies everything.

    13. Re:What was it you ate from your toe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, thankfully Dingleberry M&M's were never big sellers. I think it was the hair that really turned people off.

    14. Re:What was it you ate from your toe? by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

      Or -5 Punny depending on your comedy ideology.

    15. Re:What was it you ate from your toe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No matter how much of a fool Ballmer made of himself in his "developers, developers, developers, developers" spasms, this is infinitely worse.

    16. Re:What was it you ate from your toe? by sosume · · Score: 1

      Not sure if this is worse than the one cup vid..

    17. Re:What was it you ate from your toe? by leromarinvit · · Score: 5, Funny

      I eat toe cheese too, just in the privacy of my own home.

      -1 Too Informative

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      Proud member of the Ferengi Socialist Party.
    18. Re:What was it you ate from your toe? by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      And now time for a real question.

      In the upcoming changes to ram, where that boundary between flash RAM and DRAM disappear. How will it affect operating systems as it no longer has the cleansing opportunity of reboot. Basically turning off a computer will mean just powering down read/writes but everything will be ready to go including pending read writes once power is back on and access to all ram is available including bulk storage of what used to be hard disk drives et al. Will things like reboots be forced.

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      Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
    19. Re:What was it you ate from your toe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      slashdot beating reddit in the race to the bottom thanks to spiffmastercow

    20. Re:What was it you ate from your toe? by Raenex · · Score: 1

      I eat toe cheese too, just in the privacy of my own home.

      What the fuck is wrong with you people? You make me want to vomit.

  3. Capitalism and You by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Your monkish lifestyle would leave most people who work in software screaming for a Lear Jet and you have stated "I've always lived cheaply ... like a student, basically. And I like that, because it means that money is not telling me what to do." Growing up in the United States, I have been served the koolaid of Capitalism several times and I have been taught that the inherent competition and struggle for money in all aspects of our lives make us the greatest country ever. I've read a lot of your comments on intellectual property reform and I can't help but feel that it just isn't compatible with capitalism. Have you ever had problems rectifying your stance on intellectual property with capitalism? Do you see any problems at all with no copyright or patent laws inside a capitalistic society?

    I feel like you have this admirable and altruistic quality where money isn't the ultimate driving force and when you speak to people who base their entire lives around money, there's a fundamental disconnect that is overlooked.

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    My work here is dung.
    1. Re:Capitalism and You by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You're not asking me question, but how exactly is copyright reform inherently against capitalism? For copyrights (or patents) to exist, it requires a government to enforce them in the first place. To own a copyright is to own the rights to an idea (which IMO makes the entire concept incompatible with free speech), and that is impossible to do with a some sort of force behind you, legal or otherwise.

    2. Re:Capitalism and You by SpzToid · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yeah really RMS, who do you look up to yourself? I'll venture to guess Ralph Nadar and perhaps even Mr. Fred Rodgers who are both, (also) impressive Americans that have worked to set stellar examples in their field.

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      You can't be ahead of the curve, if you're stuck in a loop.
    3. Re:Capitalism and You by Digana · · Score: 1

      Oh, prepare to be lectured for saying "intellectual property"...

    4. Re:Capitalism and You by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why can't you use a browser like normal people?

      For personal reasons, I do not browse the web from my computer. (I also have not net connection much of the time.) To look at page I send mail to a demon which runs wget and mails the page back to me. It is very efficient use of my time, but it is slow in real time.

      citation

    5. Re:Capitalism and You by Charliemopps · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I disagree. While property rights are an important part of capitalism, and often we argue against "intellectual" property, a far more important facet of capitalism is a transparent market place. Buyers should know exactly what they are buying. Closed source software protects intellectual property, but obfuscates the "product" the customer is purchasing. It's all about compromises. Is it better to lose the property rights closed source protects in favor of the transparency open source provides? Most of us here think so. We just need to convince everyone else. Either way is entirely compatible with capitalism, it's just a matter of application. I think that in the long run we'll find that even our position is a bit too extreme and the real answer is somewhere in the middle.

    6. Re:Capitalism and You by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The koolaid of Capitalism?
       
      Buddy, most of what you have at hand is somehow the product of "the koolaid of capitalism." If you really hate it that much then go out, form a commune and start producing your own (free as in speech) products and media. Until then don't act like you're way of life isn't a direct result of "the koolaid of capitalism."
       
      Oh, I know you won't do it. Just like every other Slashtard, you talk a good game but you'll never really take on the challenges that your own heavy-handed ideals require of you in order for you to not be a total stinking hypocrite.

    7. Re:Capitalism and You by RobertLTux · · Score: 1

      Point of Interest Reverend Fred McFeely Rogers actually sued a company once. This company no longer exists.

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    8. Re:Capitalism and You by multicoregeneral · · Score: 0

      I don't know what RMS would say on this, but it's my opinion that protectionism of any kind runs contrary to capitalism and the free market. All goods should be able to be sold and resold freely, without restriction. Intellectual property is a kind of a protectionism, that distorts markets by creating artificial scarcities. Like tariffs and other forms of protectionism, they do not help capitalism or the markets. Instead, they create new forms of censorship and tyranny.

      RMS is big on protecting the freedom of software. But let's be realistic here. The only time a work is ever truly free, is when it's part of the public domain.

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    9. Re:Capitalism and You by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you're not all there are you? you're supposed to be asking RMS a freakin' question not making proclamations, no matter how inspired! snap out of it!

    10. Re:Capitalism and You by icebraining · · Score: 1

      Your confusion comes from the fact that what's fed to us (and not only in the US) is the Crony Capitalism kool-aid.

      I advise people to read Against Intellectual Property, published in the Journal of Libertarian Studies.

    11. Re:Capitalism and You by ArsonSmith · · Score: 0

      You've been feed the anti-Capitalism Kool-aid i think a little more. Capitalism is the implementation of the idea that all iterations with people should be voluntary. You are not forced to make exchanges that you don't want. Opposed to it's opposite Socialism where you are forced to make exchanges no matter your desire.

      In every exchange in a free market, both participants come out ahead. If you buy a TV for $100 it is because you wanted a TV more than you wanted $100. If you sell a TV for $100 it is because you valued $100 more than the TV. Money is no more or less important in a Capitalist society than TVs, DVD Players, houses, Cars or food. In most cases it is less important as it's not very entertaining, makes a lousy building material, can't transport you anywhere and can't be eaten.

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      Paying taxes to buy civilization is like paying a hooker to buy love.
    12. Re:Capitalism and You by icebraining · · Score: 1
    13. Re:Capitalism and You by blahplusplus · · Score: 1

      "I've read a lot of your comments on intellectual property reform and I can't help but feel that it just isn't compatible with capitalism."

      This is a lot of nonsense, public domain has been effectively destroyed by intellectual property. If you don't believe it look here:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act

      and here:

      http://homepages.law.asu.edu/~dkarjala/opposingcopyrightextension/commentary/MacaulaySpeeches.html

      Take all the abandonware games and all the "IP's" that didn't sell, corporations still sit on them an hoard them leading to deadweight loss (inefficiency). Whole entire tracts of culture and industry are cut off by monopolistic IP laws.

      FS2 open trailer
      http://www.opcoder.com/projects/chrono/

      Things like the below only occur at the rare benevolence/luck of when a dev is allowed to release source-code.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhAR8rWPluQ

      Freespace 2 has been modified and fixed up over the last 10 years, a thing which is impossible under current IP law. To say not being able to repair and update your software is "not compatible with capitalism" is just a lot of garbage. No one would accept being told what to do with their car they purchased. The fact that it is accepted in domains of software is just because the public is not informed and/or too stupid to understand the implications because it doesn't directly effect their lives and annoy them like say having to get permission from a corporation to use your car (insanity).

      But somehow this insanity is allowed in software (DRM - steam).

    14. Re:Capitalism and You by oever · · Score: 1

      He explains it right there. We live in an abundance of webpages. I think this workflow might actually work fine once you have a good archive of reference materials local and properly indexed.

      The web is not just a source of information, it's also a source of distraction. By building in a latency, one can be more productive. Stallman is not the only one that does this.

      In addition, by limiting himself to fewer types of communication channel instead of a complex mix of twitter, facebook, irc, mail, telephone, web, voip, text and more, he needs less brain cycles to deal with the different formats.

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      DNA is the ultimate spaghetti code.
    15. Re:Capitalism and You by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of a Chuck Norris joke. Do I smell a new meme?

      Fred Rogers once frowned slightly at a small child who wouldn't share toys. That child grew up to be the Dalai Lama.

    16. Re:Capitalism and You by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 1

      This is probably because viewing web pages these days means that you end up running a lot of JavaScript programs that are not Free Software.

      wget doesn't execute JavaScript.

      There may be organisational aspects to it as well - it's certainly more efficient to have an "In tray" of things you're going to read, without the temptation of links to click on which can consume your whole day.

    17. Re:Capitalism and You by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Intellectual property is a kind of a protectionism, that distorts markets by creating artificial scarcities.

      The point of patents is that you get a *limited duration* protection for your interesting and novel new product/technology/discovery/whatever, and in return, you tell everybody else how you did it. That way, everybody else doesn't waste a ton of time and effort and money trying to replicate your results, and can instead investigate new and interesting frontiers opened by your discovery - this is that whole "promote the progress of science and useful arts" thing. If every company wishing to produce a cancer cure had to do so by replicating the entire chain of discoveries back to the double helix structure of DNA independently, then medicine and other sciences would be far behind where they are now.

      If you eliminate the "exclusive rights" part, then you eliminate ANY willingness or incentive to share discoveries, as every company seeks to protect its competitive advantage by locking down and securing its trade secrets.

      If you want "open" science, then you really do need a scheme like patents to offer incentives for people to discover new things, and then *share them,* knowing that their rights to recoup their R&D expenses will be secure for a time. You can certainly argue that the current lengths are abusive or counterproductive, you can certainly argue that certain things shouldn't be patentable, or that the bar for patentability should be higher than it is now... but "abolition" of patents and copyrights is a solution that throws the baby out with the bathwater.

    18. Re:Capitalism and You by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's too many scumbags, though, to the point where the corruption becomes inseparable from the system in the minds of many. I see more and more comments by people that *no* successful people have earned their success, no matter how much personal risk and 100 hour weeks they put into building something, and that they should be "bled dry" ASAP. It's really sick. You have the assholes who abuse the system and the other assholes who want to tear down everyone and everything even a few percentage points more successful in life than them. It's not going to end well. I just hope I can retire and bail far away before it does.

    19. Re:Capitalism and You by 246o1 · · Score: 1

      People who are not participating in the negotiations do not always come out ahead, and the net social benefit might be negative. Here are some two-party deals that are bad for society (some more extreme than others, but I think they illustrate the need for laws and social rules outside of property protection):

      1. You pay me $1200/oz for gold, and I open a gold mine. The gold mine leaks poison into a nearby river, killing tens of thousands of fish, reducing life expectancy in surrounding communities by 5 years, and not being my problem.

      2. I am a congressman and you are a pharmaceutical company CEO. You pay me $10 million, directly and in jobs to my underqualified relatives (and me as soon as I retire from Congress), to sponsor a bill which makes competing drugs illegal by extending your intellectual property rights another 5 years. I win, you win, and consumers get screwed with higher prices for a longer time, competing firms go out of business, and the generic version of your drug appearing 5 years later results in 50,000 avoidable deaths among the under-insured.

      3. I am a hitman. You pay me to kill your wife, only $20,000, and receive $10 million of her assets that you would have lost in the coming divorce. I win, you win, she loses.

      4. I go to a futures market and make bets/investments relying on a 4-degree temperature rise in the next 4 decades, open shipping lanes at the north pole, a dwindling supply of ocean-based food, etc. These are highly leveraged and worth approximately $50 Billion dollars. I then pay you to put CO2 and methane in the atmosphere as quickly as possible, investing $2 Billion in this scheme and improving the likelihood of my payoff by over 10%, making the investment an easy decision. You make tons of money, and so do I. A win for unrestricted capitalism!

      These examples are crude, but meant to illustrate certain anti-social impulses inherent in unrestricted deal-making in a capitalist framework. Property rights are not as important as other human rights.

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      Although the moon is smaller than the earth, it is farther away.
    20. Re:Capitalism and You by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try the grape! It has 80% less poison than orange!

    21. Re:Capitalism and You by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I saw him using links2 -g once... Maybe I was dreaming

    22. Re:Capitalism and You by Shark · · Score: 2

      I think copyrights/patents actually work against the concept of free market capitalism. Voluntary exchange means the government or anyone else cannot prevent you from producing anything and selling it at whichever price you desire (including $0), including a copy of whatever else. If you actually optained the original material and those required to produce the copy from voluntary exchange (you paid whatever price was asked for them), you can do what you damn please with them, including destroying them or giving them away.

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    23. Re:Capitalism and You by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      actually, not just that biut.... the web is a transitory place.

      How many times have you hunted for half an hour for an article that you know you read, begun to think maybe you were crazy, only to finally found a link to where it used to be.... its in fact been gone for a long time... and armed with this one remaining link, you now have to hope the wayback machine has it.

      If you read all web pages offline, through an email box, then you have an implicit archive of everything that you don't delete.

      I don't want to go all the way to this...but at the same time... I do occasionally ponder if there isn't some good and semi-automated way I could maintain such an archive for my own purposes.

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      "I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
    24. Re:Capitalism and You by oever · · Score: 1

      I use a proxy that I wrote myself to surf the web. Its purpose is similar to the Firefox add-on RequestPolicy: to selectively block requests to website B that originate from a visit to website A. An example is the loading of content from google-analytics or scorecardresearch.com.

      This proxy is written in Javascript and runs on Node.JS. I have not put it online and not plan to share it soon. Nevertheless, a similar script could be used to cache your web site visits and index their content.

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    25. Re:Capitalism and You by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, then your actual question really would be more along the lines of;

      "I notice you don't allow money to drive you, and instead prefer to focus your energies towards things that are personally meaningful, and happen to also pay the bills. Do you ever feel a desire to transmit this world-view to the rest of the people around you, or are you content with focusing on the software-aspect of this disconnect?"

    26. Re:Capitalism and You by bkmoore · · Score: 1

      The point to capitalism is if you generate wealth, such as software, you can do with it whatever you want to. You can try to get the highest-possible price on the free market, or you can give it away and make money doing support. Either way it is your choice. The problem is when laws or other barriers are erected to promote certain players or business models over others. I think RMS's business model could only function within a capitalist system. His argument is more against established players attempting to erect barriers, e.g. software patents, etc than against capitalism per se.

    27. Re:Capitalism and You by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      Whole entire tracts of culture and industry are cut off by monopolistic IP laws.

      No, they are cut off because Disney have a great big vault in the basement, there's no law stopping them from donating all that "lost" culture to the national archives or whatever.

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    28. Re:Capitalism and You by bug1 · · Score: 1

      the inherent competition and struggle for money in all aspects of our lives make us the greatest country ever.

      (us being the United States)

      I believe India has the most extreme form of capitalism in the world, if true, shouldnt you consider India to be a greater country than the US.

      P.S. oh and greatest country ever, seriously ? I hear Rome was pretty good in its time (for romans at least).

    29. Re:Capitalism and You by blahplusplus · · Score: 1

      Problem is cultural works should be mandated by law to go into libraries and forced into the public domain but they don't because of things like the insane extension of copyright and the concept of software licensing applied to cultural works like games.

    30. Re:Capitalism and You by socceroos · · Score: 1

      Any person using FTFY or editing my postings agrees to a US$0.00 charge

      FTFY

    31. Re:Capitalism and You by bogjobber · · Score: 1

      And an aside to that, did you find yourself drawn to other forms of activism before you started GNU?

    32. Re:Capitalism and You by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The gold mine leaks poison into a nearby river, killing tens of thousands of fish, reducing life expectancy in surrounding communities by 5 years, and not being my problem.

      Wrong. You are on the hook for ruining the property and health of those people - the river was not your property, and you ruined it, with a net loss of life & property value for the people affected. Property law adequately deals with this.

      I win, you win, and consumers get screwed with higher prices for a longer time, competing firms go out of business, and the generic version of your drug appearing 5 years later results in 50,000 avoidable deaths among the under-insured.

      Bribery and corruption are illegal - and require a strong government which CAN regulate industries to even be possible. What favors can I bribe from you, if you're incapable of regulating new barriers to entry in the market? What corruption can you engage in, if you are effectively powerless to extend IP rights?

      I am a hitman.

      Murder is also adequately covered by property laws. Property laws presuppose an agent who can "own" things - if you have no right to your own body and life, then you have no right to own property. Depriving someone of their life would be depriving them of their most fundamental property through force, which is, again, quite adequately covered by "property" law.

      I behave like a James Bond villain, in the most ridiculous example I've provided yet.

      Again, property laws are more than adequate here - you are ruining other people's property by pumping pollution into the atmosphere. You are also indirectly killing people by engaging in activities that you expect will result in people starving, or drowning in coastal flooding, or any number of other bad side effects of raising global temperatures 4 degrees over 40 years. Leaving aside the fact that "2 billion dollars" wouldn't do jack shit, and leaving aside the fact that if you have 52 billion dollars to invest, you can CERTAINLY find better investment plans for it than "destroying the earth's atmosphere," and leaving aside the fact that no sane person would do this for a "10% increase that there'll be a payoff," you don't have the right to destroy property and lives that are not yours. This is fundamental of any property rights.

      Your examples are crude, nonsensical, and verge on the illiterate. If you want to criticize capitalism, you should probably try to understand what it is you're criticizing first. Furthermore, you're trying to also boil down capitalist interactions to "two party deals," and nobody has asserted that this is some quality of capitalism that is required. In capitalism, interactions between all affected parties are purely voluntary, and based on mutual exchanges to mutual benefit. In your example of a mine upriver from a fishing village, the people in the fishing village would be absolutely within their rights to ask that their rights to the river be respected, and that I abide by certain agreements to be sure I won't be polluting the river. And they would have the right to STOP me from polluting their river, if I disregarded those rights.

    33. Re:Capitalism and You by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? Intellectual property is more socialistic than it is capitalistic. I don't understand why people think that government-enforced monopolies are pro-free market...

    34. Re:Capitalism and You by lkcl · · Score: 1

      i can help address this one, immediately. i'm working on the rhombus-tech project, and am designing a tablet for the KDE "Plasma" Team after they ran into severe reliability issues, GPL violations, unannounced design changes, unnanounced *processor* changes (which of course completely messes things up for them because they have to start again with the porting efforts).

      let me start with the phrase "intellectual property" and go from there. intellect -> intelligence; property - > ownership -> enslavement. so the phrase "intellectual property" actually means "intelligence enslavement". the purpose of the phrase "intellectual property" is to enslave anyone who is intelligent. from this perspective we can see what it is *really* used for.

      i can definitely attest that intelligence enslavement has been used to adversely affect my right to develop a commercial capitalistic product which is to be sold at profit.

      i have contacted *countless* IC suppliers, for audio, camera, wifi, 3G, accelerometer, touchscreen products. the answers have varied from non-existent to "who the hell are you" to intrusive requests for information to "please sign this NDA".

      in the end i went, "this is ridiculous. it's as if i'm being treated as some sort of criminal or fraudster (which many suppliers often truly believe that you are). i cannot be bothered with this"

      so i created a design which uses an STM32F instead, and i will be programming it to emulate the various functions needed, purely in software, GPLv3 or LGPLv3 licensed. i've had it with these companies who want to "protect" (i.e. enslave) information. audio will be done as Digital PWM using a couple of $0.12 0.5 watt amplifiers: i found the circuits online. camera will be done using 15 pins on the STM32F, emulated entirely in software, the source code *already* exists, google "followingrobot".

      ironically this approach will actually *save* money. a company called http://www.icbase.com/ quoted me $2.36 for 10k units of the LQFP-100 mid-end STM32F FOB out of HK (they sell enormous volume). by contrast, an Audio IC costs about $1.50, a Camera IC costs about $1.50, and so on - even just those two ICs alone puts you above the cost of the STM32F.

      does that help demonstrate how this is a real problem, not an intellectual exercise?

  4. GPL vs BSD by allots · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    My question to RMS is.. why he thinks GPL is better license than BSD license?

    BSD license is ultimately more free than GPL because it allows people to monetarize their BSD-based software products. GPL does not allow this freedom but closes it out. Why is so bad that companies and people must be prohibited from earning living from open source code? Yes, you could potentially sell your open source software but that hardly works. Some kind of products (for example games) can't be really sold support to, either.

    1. Re:GPL vs BSD by amorsen · · Score: 1, Informative

      Talk about kicking a dead horse.

      So far the questions are either trolls or completely redundant. Hopefully they will improve.

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    2. Re:GPL vs BSD by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Don't you think he's answered this one enough times already?

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    3. Re:GPL vs BSD by TheSpoom · · Score: 1

      There is a collection of the FSF's thoughts on various free and non-free licenses available, including the BSD license:

      This is the original BSD license, modified by removal of the advertising clause. It is a lax, permissive non-copyleft free software license, compatible with the GNU GPL.

      This license is sometimes referred to as the 3-clause BSD license.

      The modified BSD license is not bad, as lax permissive licenses go, though the Apache 2.0 license is preferable. However, it is risky to recommend use of “the BSD license”, even for special cases such as small programs, because confusion could easily occur and lead to use of the flawed original BSD license. To avoid this risk, you can suggest the X11 license instead. The X11 license and the modified revised BSD license are more or less equivalent.

      However, the Apache 2.0 license is better for substantial programs, since it prevents patent treachery.

      There is also an article I found on this exact subject, where Stallman says the following:

      Freedom means having control of your own life; “Freedom of choice” is a partly accurate and partly misleading way to describe that, and taking that expression too literally leads to mistaken conclusions. Thus, I say I advocate “freedom” — not “freedom of choice”. This always leads to the question of “which freedom?” In the area of software, I want a society in which users are free to run software, free study and change its source code and make their changed versions run, and free to redistribute changed and unchanged versions. In other words, a society in which non-free software more or less doesn’t exist. Establishing a free society that endures generally requires not allowing people to give up freedom. In other words, it requires inalienable rights. I do not want a society in which people had those freedoms only until they gave them up. I do not say this with the expectation that you will agree with me. It sounds like you are as firmly convinced of your views as I am of mine. I hope, though, that at least you will understand better what my position is.

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      - E. Debs
    4. Re:GPL vs BSD by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      A lot of these questions are answered on the philosophy section of his page.

      Basically, RMS derives everything from the four freedoms: the freedom (0) to run the program, (1) to study and change the program in source code form, (2) to redistribute exact copies, and (3) to distribute modified versions. If you accept those freedoms, it makes sense to avoid the BSD licenses, because they allow middle-men to deprive end-users of some of these rights. Of course, not everyone thinks those freedoms are important.

      Secondly, monetizing is actually easier under the GPL. If that is your goal, you can follow the example of this guy, or QT, or MySQL, and dual-license your code. Those who are willing to preserve the freedoms can have it for free. Those who aren't, can pay. I can't think of any BSD products that have been able to make money like this (maybe there are some).

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    5. Re:GPL vs BSD by Immerman · · Score: 2

      And just because I couldn't help but feed the troll...

      Nothing about the GPL keps you from monetizing *your* code, it only keeps you from monetizing *my* code in a manner that doesn't benefit me as well. If you want to monetize my code, pay up. The price is that you release your own modifications on the same (or more generous) terms. If you don't like those terms you're welcome to contact me directly to negotiate others.

      As for games - it's called content. Just because you have to release the source (aka "the engine") doesn't mean you have to release the art/music/maps/etc (aka "the game")

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    6. Re:GPL vs BSD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Basically, RMS derives everything from the four freedoms: the freedom (0) to run the program, (1) to study and change the program in source code form, (2) to redistribute exact copies, and (3) to distribute modified versions.
      If you accept those freedoms, it makes sense to avoid the BSD licenses, because they allow middle-men to deprive end-users of some of these rights. Of course, not everyone thinks those freedoms are important.

      No, the BSD license does not deprive end-users of any of those "rights".
      What it removes is the right (4) to redistribute a modified version and (5) to modify and distribute a previously modified version.
      The end-user will still be able to do the 4 first without taking away the freedom to distribute a binary without source code.

    7. Re:GPL vs BSD by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      The four freedoms are fundamental to software. These are the four freedoms every user should have. If someone gives you a binary that you can't change and recompile, they've deprived you of that freedom. This is the RMS philosophy.

      The BSD license allows someone to take your software, make changes, and deprive someone else of their freedom. That's why RMS doesn't like it. He's opposed to proprietary software in general.

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    8. Re:GPL vs BSD by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 0

      Maybe if someone inspires a lot of troll questions, the problem isn't fully with the trolls.

    9. Re:GPL vs BSD by kthreadd · · Score: 1

      The other side of the argument would be yes, but if the software derived from something BSD licensed then you still have that BSD licensed source code. It doesn't go away because someone makes a copy.

    10. Re:GPL vs BSD by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      I don't think that really makes sense. You've still helped someone who wanted to deprive someone else of liberty.

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  5. Re:Copy protection and GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Either this is a clever troll, or you do not understand that the concepts of copy protection and GPL are mutually exclusive.

  6. Open source and free by quartersa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What does RMS think about the current situation with open source software where most people think open source just means free? They hardly care about the philosophical aspect of free software but just want something that's free.

    1. Re:Open source and free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RMS wants them to think it's "free", but not the way you think!

    2. Re:Open source and free by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      I was about to ask this same question.

    3. Re:Open source and free by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      It is not a very good question IMO, of course the average person doesn't know or understand the details... that is as true of Free Software as anything else.

      Next thing you'll expect sports fans to know the rules of their favorite sport!

    4. Re:Open source and free by Isaac+Remuant · · Score: 1

      Well, that's why you'll always hear him emphasizing "Free software" instead of "Open Source".

      From http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
      The 4 rules:

      The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0).
              The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
              The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor (freedom 2).
              The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this.

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      "Science can amuse and fascinate us all, but it is engineering that changes the world. " - Asimov.
    5. Re:Open source and free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had an eye opening perspective on this when I recently tried to get relatives on Linux. Windows had failed them badly but when I told them about linux, I had to make them understand why it's free, how it's sustainable to keep free, why it's good quality and such. And they were not quite convinced.

  7. 1980s Hackers Convention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl_1OybdteY

    Do you remember attending this hacker's convention? What was it like interacting with all of those notable guys back in the early days?

  8. How to reverse the aggregation problem? by concealment · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A problem with software and operating systems is what I call the "aggregation problem," which is that what we have now is an aggregate of past solutions to problems that may no longer exist. The stuff piles up, increasing complexity and decreasing the uniformity and effectiveness of the interface. At what point do software projects call for a top-down redesign? How can free software do this where industry cannot?

    1. Re:How to reverse the aggregation problem? by Bradmont · · Score: 1

      We obviously haven't gotten there yet... I mean, look how mad people are about Unity! ;)

    2. Re:How to reverse the aggregation problem? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Most software stopped doing top-down "big rewrites" years ago, because they almost always fail.

      The solution is known and in use, you get good tests and coverage, you re-factor from the bottom up and keep the software in a continually-working state. This allows discovery and pruning of unused or sloppy portions of code.

  9. Ask Richard Stallman anything about GNU Rampart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dear Richard Stallman,

    Did you enjoy the movie "Rampart" starring Woody Harrelson? What was your favorite scene from the movie "Rampart"? Would you rent "Rampart" and watch it at home with friends or family? Are there any plans to create and release a GNU FOSS version of "Rampart" that's both free as in beer and free as in speech? Thanks for answering my "Rampart" questions!

    1. Re:Ask Richard Stallman anything about GNU Rampart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      Oh look, a redditor.

  10. Re:Copy protection and GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Are you a troll ?

    if your code is free software, then I can buy it from you, modifiy it to remove the DRM and redistribute it, so although DRMs are not "as such" incompatible with Free Software it's pointless...
    So if you want to sell your own open source application, look at the business models that do apply (service, consortium, fremium, begging, ease of installation, etc..)
    do not try to pretend it's free and then slap traitor ware on it.
     

  11. Re:Copy protection and GPL by Hatta · · Score: 1

    Neither. It's a troll, but it's not very clever.

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  12. Revolution OS ... by i.r.id10t · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Interviews with you comprised a big percentage of the documentary Revolution OS.

    If it were to be remade today, and the financial aspects ignored, what do you think would be different? If you were producing such a documentary today, what would you focus on?

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  13. Do you like being worshiped ? by lemur3 · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Really.. for some people you seem to be some God, and software is the religion.

    What do you think of the hero worship?

  14. Onesies by tomknight · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Do you prefer to wear onesies with or without feet?

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  15. Hypocracy by beelsebob · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Do you not find it a little hypocritical that you support free software, as it allows all the well known benefits like people collaborating, adding features, fixing bugs, using your code in unexpected ways, and producing generally awesome stuff; but, at the same time support deliberately breaking software designs (e.g. that of gcc), and making it hard to integrate them, edit them, and use them as a third party[1]?

    Doesn't that make gcc just as bad as closed source software, as you're going out of your way to make it difficult to do all the great things that free and open software allows?

    [1] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gcc.devel/59296

    1. Re:Hypocracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > is there a reason for not making the front ends dynamic libraries which could be linked by any program that wants to parse source code?

      Linking non-free software (as defined by RMS and the FSF) to GCCs front-ends is a copyvio (or piracy if you like) of their copyrights. Linux lets driver developers get away with it and, like it or not, has legitimized the practice. The FSF doesn't want to. So, they've put up a kind of DRM to discourage linking blobs.

      Like all DRM, it's a design defect meant to advance a business / political requirement. Much like how GPL is more restrictive than BSD. Is restrictiveness an acceptable evil? I think we can guess RMS's answer, and I'm not sure asking the question will reveal much that anybody doesn't know already.

    2. Re:Hypocracy by beelsebob · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The question was not about linking closed source against open source, it was about deliberately breaking the design of the software, and in doing so making life hard for the good guys as well as the bad guys. Because they did this, no one can use gcc's parser/type checker/etc to build an *open* IDE either. That to me rather makes gcc's code the very opposite of open, because it's actively trying to stop me from extending, editing, doing generally awesome things.

      That's the hypocrisy, not simply not wanting closed source vendors to grab your code and run (which I quite understand).

    3. Re:Hypocracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1

    4. Re:Hypocracy by IcyHando'Death · · Score: 2

      The parent comment is an obvious troll... but the question at the link is a good one. It asks:

      is there a reason for not making the front ends dynamic libraries which could be linked by any program that wants to parse source code?

      I'd like to know if RMS has any further comments on this. I.e., has there been any progress on finding other ways to prevent non-free software from being combined with gcc code, so that offering such dynamic libraries would be possible? If the GPL is not considered sufficient protection, would a stricter license be an option? What avenues are being explored?

    5. Re:Hypocracy by Digana · · Score: 1

      It is consistent with providing free software to make it difficult to create non-free software. The GPL's copyleft isn't non-free anymore than laws against me punching you in the face take away any significant freedom from me.

    6. Re:Hypocracy by beelsebob · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The point being that they're not making it difficult to create non-free software, they're making it difficult to create any software, including free software. The point of free software is to allow us all to collaborate, and come up with awesome stuff together, designing it to be difficult to build software that links against it is completely counter to that idea.

    7. Re:Hypocracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Aristocracy is government by the Nobility, is Hypocracy government by the lowest?

    8. Re:Hypocracy by Digana · · Score: 1

      In this case, the danger of enabling non-free software on top of gcc overweighs the convenience of allowing modularity in gcc.

    9. Re:Hypocracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The above comment is blatant FUD, in the same style that we've all been seeing for ages. GCC is licensed under the GPL, thus it is free software. If you have problems with the engineering and design decisions, you are free to modify it. Free software makes no promises about your ability to do so, it just grants you and everyone else the legal right to for as long as the copyright holds.

      You trying to equate that to an issue about freedom is patently ridiculous, almost analogous to a non-English speaker complaining that the program being written in C is taking away his freedom because he doesn't understand what the words "if" and "else" mean.

    10. Re:Hypocracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are conflating freedom with power. DRM is a software restriction that exists for no reason other than to take your rights away. No rights are taken away by the GPL, nor is the GPL restrictive in any way. Since none of your rights are being infringed by this, it's not DRM.

    11. Re:Hypocracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The point of free software is to allow us all to collaborate

      Perhaps you should ask RMS if he agrees with that premise in the first place....

    12. Re:Hypocracy by madprof · · Score: 2

      Sorry but every time I see "hypocrisy" spelled as "hypocracy" I think "a system of government based around hypocrites".

    13. Re:Hypocracy by beelsebob · · Score: 1

      Okay, so you're saying that the danger that someone will make a closed source IDE based on an open compiler is so serious that you should instead essentially make a closed compiler... o.O

    14. Re:Hypocracy by scared+masked+man · · Score: 0

      Doesn't GCC build some optimisation into the parser, so some dead code and redundant assignments never make it to the AST? That makes the C and C++ front-ends useless for an IDE, so it might just be that he wanted a better-sounding reason than "it would take too much work to make it useful".

    15. Re:Hypocracy by Digana · · Score: 1

      I didn't say that gcc is "closed", or non-free, as it were. There is no imperative to make sure free software is easy and convenient for all possible uses. For instance, I do not have a moral obligation to make sure the free software I create is easy to compile on Windows. Modularity is nice, but not an essential feature of free software. All that you really need is the source code, the preferred form of modification, and with that you can exercise the required freedoms. You can fork off gcc if you want. In fact, gcc is a fork, a fork called egcs that got branded back into gcc, as you well know.

      Also, you seem to be suggesting that rms is a tyrant here for not allowing gcc to be modularised. Unlike a real tyrant, nobody has to actually listen to rms. If enough people wanted to do so, they could all abandon GNU, fork off gcc, do whatever they wanted with it, modularise it, and call it something else, yet again.

    16. Re:Hypocracy by beelsebob · · Score: 1

      I personally would argue that making deliberate attempts to make modification and usage hard is as good as "closed", you don't need a closed license (or lack thereof) to be a closed project.

      Though you do have a point re "people could just go make something else, or fork etc"... I guess that's why apple went off and made clang, and why google now work so hard on it too.

    17. Re:Hypocracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not an obvious troll just because it disagrees with the echo chamber. Why do you think so many devs are switching to BSD-style licenses?

    18. Re:Hypocracy by Raenex · · Score: 1

      In this case, the danger of enabling non-free software on top of gcc overweighs the convenience of allowing modularity in gcc.

      The more you tighten your grip, Digana, the more software systems will slip through your fingers.

  16. Re:Copy protection and GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Troll. It must a troll. Or a shrill for Oracle/Microsoft/Apple/IBM/$CORPOFTHEWEEK.

  17. Freedom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The freedom to run the program, for any purpose" This includes the freedom to use a program to kill or torture people. Don't you think it is time to include a clause that forbid this kind of "freedom"?

    1. Re:Freedom by alucardX · · Score: 0

      There are laws that forbid that sort of thing. Where there are not a limit imposed by a software license wouldn't do any good.

    2. Re:Freedom by vlm · · Score: 1

      Too poorly defined.

      Some drunk's automatic transmission in his car has GPLed software and he crashes into a bus full of nuns and orphans. Charge him with copyright violation? Or charge the car mfgr? WTF.

      So you have to define a weird license about intent, or something.

      Chemotherapy of a terminally ill cancer patient... torture aka license violation or no?

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    3. Re:Freedom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The freedom to run the program, for any purpose" This includes the freedom to use a program to kill or torture people. Don't you think it is time to include a clause that forbid this kind of "freedom"?

      A violent force is not a law-abiding one, unless it voluntarily abstain from breaking laws and norms. Such an clause of limitation is an exercise in futility.

  18. Re:Why are you such a tool? by 91degrees · · Score: 0

    It's a rubbish question.

    "Tool" is poorly defined. And as for the actual question, are you looking for his motivations for being said tool, what he thinks it is that makes him a tool, or what?

  19. How do you feel about the Raspberry Pi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How do you feel about the Raspberry Pi? Do you feel it is a significant step towards freer PC hardware platforms?

    1. Re:How do you feel about the Raspberry Pi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would it be? There's nothing particularly free about the R-Pi hardware.

    2. Re:How do you feel about the Raspberry Pi? by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 1

      As a result of the Pi using it, the BCM2835 is now the only ARM System-on-a-Chip that has functional, open source drivers, that were provided by the vendor and not produced by reverse engineering.

      This represents something of a sea-change in thinking for Broadcom, who have a reputation for poor Linux support.

    3. Re:How do you feel about the Raspberry Pi? by csolisr · · Score: 1

      Not the only one, actually. The CubieBoard and other chips that use the Allwinner A10 system-on-a-chip have source code for their graphics drivers.

  20. software design paradigms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What are the most important questions you should ask yourself & considerations
    you should take into account before writing a single piece of code?

  21. Copyleft and hardware manufacturers by nathana · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What can we do to incentivize hardware manufacturers to be less "evil"? I have an iPhone, and Apple has screwed me over; this is my story: http://www.anderson-net.com/~nathan/apple-broke-my-phone (also see http://pandodaily.com/2012/11/23/apples-stick-in-the-mud-routine-is-getting-old). I know, I know...you can say "I told you so" if you want to.

    As a customer of theirs, I'm sure I'm well in the minority in terms of how I use my devices, and as long as most of their customers have no problem with how they do business and they continue to rake in money hand-over-fist, Apple losing me as a customer is a mere drop in the bucket for them. If the loss of my money and goodwill as a prior customer is not enough, and other people continue to desire and to buy their products, how can we communicate to companies like Apple that the "open" way is a better way, and do so in a language they can understand and respond to?

    -- Nathan

    1. Re:Copyleft and hardware manufacturers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      As a customer of theirs...

      This is your problem right there. By being a customer, you are clearly proclaiming that you support what they do, and that they should do more of the same thing. The only way to curb "evil" business practices is to stop giving money to the "evil" practitioners.

      There is no other way. It's not a difficult concept.

    2. Re:Copyleft and hardware manufacturers by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately most people won't care enough about this, or rather, even know how much their freedom is limited. This does indicate the mindless stupidity of the masses. Unfortunately, those of us who do care about freedom suffer because of this, but it seems like there is never enough of us to really make a huge dent in the big corporations profits to really care. Legislation is one way to get more of these rigths secured, such as the right to net neutrality and as well by banning mandatory trusted computing things. Its actually easier to get this done, because you are asking for people to sign a petition which is easier than giving up their gadgets altogether.

    3. Re:Copyleft and hardware manufacturers by funky_vibes · · Score: 1

      Voting with your wallet doesn't work, the system doesn't work that way. Everything is stacked against the consumer.

      If you don't buy their product, they'll make it difficult for you not to, and in the meanwhile everyone not in the know will buy it anyway.
      If there are choices, they get eliminated with the combined patent, hostile takeover and walled garden attack.

      There needs to be legislation, and the legislation needs to be very generic.

    4. Re:Copyleft and hardware manufacturers by nathana · · Score: 1

      I agree with you in principle, which is partially why I asked the question. But note that my question wasn't "how can we get these companies to change their ways while still remaining their customers." I'm not suggesting that I'm looking for a scenario where I can continue to eat the cake that I already have, and I am perfectly willing to end my relationship as a customer with them. My point is that for every 1 of me out there who cares enough to do that, there are 999,999 other people that don't care about my problem, don't have any complaints about the way Apple (or any other company like them) does things because they themselves haven't been negatively impacted by these policies personally yet, and so these people will continue to pour money into Apple's coffers. Thus, me taking a stand and "voting with my wallet" isn't going to amount to a hill of beans, and when other companies see the success that Apple is having and they chalk that success up (either correctly or incorrectly) to some of these (bad) policies that I'm lamenting, those other companies will follow suit and copycat Apple not just in their industrial designs, but also in their policies. And I will be left with 0 alternatives at the end of the day.

      In fact, I would argue that we are already seeing this happening now. What percentage of Android manufacturers ship their phones with either easily-unlocked bootloaders or bootloaders that are unlocked by default? ...yeah, exactly. Oh, and how many app stores can you use on Windows Phone? Just the one, you say? These are industry trends that Apple set the tone for, and now inertia has taken over for the entire industry.

      Finally, I should point out that voting with one's wallet takes a different form depending on whether you are dealing with a company that sells goods or a company that sells services. If Apple were mostly a services company (like, say, my cell phone carrier), I can vote with my wallet by cancelling my subscription. That act has an immediate effect and sends a clear message. In the case of Apple, though, they sold me an iPhone several months ago, and I was mostly happy with it until this happened. During the time between when I purchased the iPhone and when I saw the harmful effect their policies can have on me as an end-user, Apple was not receiving any additional income from me; thus, I wasn't an "active customer" in the same way that one can be an active customer in good standing of a service provider, and therefore it's not as straightforward to apply your criticism of me "clearly proclaiming that [I] support what they [Apple] do" as you make it out to be. The order of things was that first, I made my purchase, and THEN I recognized the problem when it bit me in the butt AFTER that. It's not like there's anything I can threaten to cut off in terms of my "financial support" of them at this point. I could say to Apple, "hey, I'm not going to buy your phones anymore." And they would come back with, "uh, well, so what? We had no assurance you were going to buy more phones from us anyway...you haven't made a purchase in X months."

      -- Nathan

    5. Re:Copyleft and hardware manufacturers by funky_vibes · · Score: 1

      There's another even more important reason why buying or not buying doesn't matter.

      You're not the customer, you're the product.
      They are selling you to the networks, app-stores, advertising, personal information etc. That's where the real money is.

      If you don't buy an iphone, you probably will buy an Android, whichever way you do it, it's their way.

      Maemo was a game changer, which is probably why it got canned.

  22. A Generation Lost in the Bazaar? by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Months ago, ACM published a column titled A Generation Lost in the Bazaar by Poul-Henning Kamp and in it he said:

    That is the sorry reality of the bazaar Raymond praised in his book: a pile of old festering hacks, endlessly copied and pasted by a clueless generation of IT "professionals" who wouldn't recognize sound IT architecture if you hit them over the head with it. It is hard to believe today, but under this embarrassing mess lies the ruins of the beautiful cathedral of Unix, deservedly famous for its simplicity of design, its economy of features, and its elegance of execution. (Sic transit gloria mundi, etc.)

    Does Kamp have a point? How do you refute his example and his drawn conclusion from it? Have you issued a rebuttal yet?

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    1. Re:A Generation Lost in the Bazaar? by vlm · · Score: 1

      I laughed at the article examples.

      One of Brooks's many excellent points is that quality happens only if somebody has the responsibility for it, and that "somebody" can be no more than one single person

      Without an intermediary / roadblock, anyone who cares can fix the funny whoppers he found in the article. With an intermediary / roadblock the poor guy would be so horrifically overloaded no one would be permitted by the speedbump to fix the funny whoppers he found in the article.

      TLDR of the article: "I found something that sucks, quick, lets insert an intermediary and more processes to slow us down!" After all, that's always worked wonders.

      Not that I'm against strict technical standards to avoid the funny whoppers in the article. That was strategically never debated in the article. Look at the huge pile of debian packaging requirements. Almost all are excellent ideas. If the author is angry at FreeBSD ports he needs to convince FreeBSD to install a "you must be this tall to git commit" requirement, in other words stolen/borrowed stuff from Debian and elsewhere, not simply install a human speedbump, or argue that a human speedbump is the only possible solution in the face of better examples of doing stuff.

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    2. Re:A Generation Lost in the Bazaar? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kamp was click trolling. Please ignore him and not dignify his blatant attempts to drive traffic to his column.

    3. Re:A Generation Lost in the Bazaar? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah yes, the glorious cathedral of the old unix dinosaurs. Gigantic, proprietary, expensive, monolithic. Dependable? Sure, but entirely obsolete because they're completely incapable of performing modern tasks. They don't /scale/. Remember, price is part of scale. It's why nosql is eclipsing classic DB's for massive projects. It's price, not elegance.

      Anway, turns out you can throw endless piles of cheap, disposable commodity hardware in to a datacenter and with brilliant engineering "hacks" you can create a system that can do things that people never even dared dream of 10 years ago. It's also quick to develop. By the time you've created the design requirements for your classic solution the "hacks" people will be testing the next generation replacement for the first solution they've already designed, tested, gone live with, and have been making money with for months.

    4. Re:A Generation Lost in the Bazaar? by bzipitidoo · · Score: 2

      I read that article when it came out, and found it unconvincing. Kamp slams the bazaar model and the entire community for being hackers who patch together endless bandaid solutions which cause more problems which require more bandaids. That strikes me as unfair, and wrong. To suggest there are no talented programmers working open source is ridiculous. Indeed, many of the GNU tools are superior to the original UNIX tools that they cloned. I'll take the GNU tools over the native tools of HP-UX, AIX, or any other proprietary UNIX. Sure there are problems, but would his way (whatever that is exactly) really be any better? At least the problems get fixed. In the proprietary UNIXes, problems linger. These proprietary vendors often claim that their C compiler generates better code than gcc, but I've found their record on that point spotty. How would he avoid having a long term project sink into a chaos of patchwork? Microsoft didn't do any better with Windows. How should software be developed?

      The best I can say for Kamp's thinking is that I think he's right about the cruft. Programs have become huge and bloated. Anymore, when you include a library, you aren't getting just one library, you're getting that library plus all the libraries it depends on, and the ones they depend on, and so on. It can get deep. And you find duplication. One program may ultimately use several slightly different libraries that do nearly the same things. It's just faster for the programmers to throw in everything including the kitchen sink, though it does make things less consistent and more complicated. But the solution? What's his solution? I don't recall that he really said.

      The ACM seems a bit confused or schizo on matters of copyright, sometimes publishing bad pieces that take copyright as a given and which only explore solutions to the small "problems" of implementing copyright. That's like asking how to stop genius hackers from cracking DRM schemes-- it misses the point that it doesn't take genius to break DRM, because the idea is unsound. More often, the ACM publishes much more enlightened pieces that point out various ways in which copyright and patents also have become too extreme.

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      Intellectual Property is a monopolistic, selfish, and defective concept. It is "tyranny over the mind of man"
    5. Re:A Generation Lost in the Bazaar? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah yes, the glorious cathedral of the old unix dinosaurs. Gigantic, proprietary, expensive, monolithic. Dependable? Sure, but entirely obsolete because they're completely incapable of performing modern tasks. They don't /scale/.

      Wtf are you talking about? Modern unix is pretty much old unix scaled.

      It's why nosql is eclipsing classic DB's for massive projects.

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh, ok, you're trolling.

    6. Re:A Generation Lost in the Bazaar? by phantomfive · · Score: 1
      lol I'm going to suggest that Kamp didn't learn from this part of Cathedral and Bazaar:

      If you treat your beta-testers as if they're your most valuable resource, they will respond by becoming your most valuable resource.

      On the other hand, apparently if you treat your beta testers as a pile of old festering hacks, they will respond that way.

      Also, it should be noted that RMS does open source for ideological reasons, he wants things to be free. That open source produces higher quality results, in his view is just a side-benefit; he would do it even if it ended up being slower.

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    7. Re:A Generation Lost in the Bazaar? by crgrace · · Score: 1

      TLDR of the article: "I found something that sucks, quick, lets insert an intermediary and more processes to slow us down!" After all, that's always worked wonders.

      I think you misunderstand Brooks' position. He isn't saying there needs to be a "quality" czar who is some kind of gatekeeper. What he is saying is there needs to be one architect of a system who is responsible for its conceptual integrity.

      You actually agree with his premise, obviously since you talk about the FreeBSD issue. The problem isn't that people aren't fixing problems, the problem is there is no designer, and design-by-committee leads to cruft.

    8. Re:A Generation Lost in the Bazaar? by NGRhodes · · Score: 1

      This is the "beautiful cathedral of Unix"... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Unix_history-simple.svg I think not.

  23. Opinions regarding freedom of Android by Pedant · · Score: 2

    What's your opinion regarding the level of freedom provided by various Android devices? In particular, Google's Nexus line, CyanogenMod, and other devices that have been rooted and/or unlocked to varying degrees.

  24. What project is using the wrong license? by gQuigs · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What free software project is using a license that doesn't actually match with it's mission - or hinders free software in other ways? In other words, if you could *magically* switch the license of one project - which would you choose and why?

    Examples: Move Mesa to GPLv3, Move Linux from GPLv2 to v3, Make andriod GPLv3, GCC - from GPLv3 to Apache.

    1. Re:What project is using the wrong license? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good question!

    2. Re:What project is using the wrong license? by archzombie · · Score: 1

      Why would anyone want GCC to be apache?

  25. The future of GCC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How do you see GCC progressing in the future? Several things you argued against (converting to C++, allowing non-GPLed code access to the internals of gcc) are occurring, and gcc is getting major competition from the BSD-licensed clang and LLVM.

  26. Random Numbers by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 1

    Just how random do you like your numbers?

    --

    "When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back!" -- Cave Johnson
    1. Re:Random Numbers by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      Freedom or Freedom in your terms?

      My gripe with GPL3 is that it is more restrictive license than GPL2, and thus "less free" in all sense of the word. It solves nothing except mental masturbation over one's view of patents and such; it doesn't make the software any more useful for users or developers. And isn't that your gripe with proprietary software, that there is too much control. So in essence, you have created the very thing you've championed against.

      Yes, I understand the TiVO argument and consequences of GPL2 and GPL3 regarding it. So the end result is that we won't have TiVO using open source software, and becoming even MORE proprietary, and this has solved nothing, and has actually made things worse. How is this better?

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      Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
    2. Re:Random Numbers by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 1

      I have a large suspicion that this is not the comment you wanted to reply to

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      "When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back!" -- Cave Johnson
    3. Re:Random Numbers by icebraining · · Score: 1

      And isn't that your gripe with proprietary software, that there is too much control.

      No. His "gripe" is that proprietary software doesn't provide the Four Freedoms. GPLv3 does, so there's no inconsistency.

      Yes, I understand the TiVO argument and consequences of GPL2 and GPL3 regarding it. So the end result is that we won't have TiVO using open source software, and becoming even MORE proprietary, and this has solved nothing, and has actually made things worse. How is this better?

      That is a valid question. rms has in the past argued for free but non-copyleft licenses for pragmatic reasons; particularly, in the case of libogg, since a copyleft license would have invited people to stick with MP3, which would be worse overall.

      So this is a departure from that position. My uneducated guess is that he'd tell you that there are free alternatives to TiVo, therefore there's no valid reason to compromise.

    4. Re:Random Numbers by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      There are alternatives to TiVO already, so changing the GPL doesn't really solve anything, does it? Except "you're not using my code in a way that I approve, therefore I forbid it" is not "freedom" in any stretch of the imagination. So instead of TiVO adding to, and improving GPL code, you don't have them helping. Again, not sure how this is beneficial to the "community".

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    5. Re:Random Numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm, please try to anticipate the counterarguments to what you've just written before hitting that submit button. On the one hand, this helps improve your reasoning if you have valid arguments, on the other hand this prevents you from posting nonsense like you just did.

      Let's see...

      There are alternatives to TiVO already, so changing the GPL doesn't really solve anything, does it?

      False, it obviously enables people who buy TIVO devices (for reasons like good service, build quality, range of offerings, ...) to tinker with it the way originally inteded by the GPL. It reinstates the four freedoms as intended by the GPLv2, which were cut off by TIVO via its special arrangement.

      Except "you're not using my code in a way that I approve, therefore I forbid it" is not "freedom" in any stretch of the imagination.

      False, nobody forbids anything. It has been the longstanding policy of the FSF and SFLC to lead infringers into compliancy, and only "forbid" and "sue" as a last resort, if at all. TIVO obviously sees value in using GPL-licensed software, but they should also abide by the corresponding terms.
      So if TIVO, as the FSF wants them to, allows access in the spirit of the GPL (read the preamble of any GPL version), this obviously increases freedom (in every imagination, if you want so).

      So instead of TiVO adding to, and improving GPL code, you don't have them helping. Again, not sure how this is beneficial to the "community".

      Exactly, we'd like for TIVO to add to GPL code, but not keep it virtually in-house (i.e. untouchable via their signature system), which completely misses the point of the GPL. They should simply allow the community to improve the GPL code as well... and I don't see how this is NOT beneficial to the community.

    6. Re:Random Numbers by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      Want to tinker, build your own device with the GPL code TiVO is using. Don't complain about TiVO, when you're being lazy. ;)

      So, TiVO can use GPL3 Code and lock it to keep it from being modified? You just forbade it. Nuff said.

      If they added to the source, and provided that source, they have improved the code. They haven't broken the GPL at all. yet this is not good enough for the likes of RMS and you. Community isn't being neglected, except on TiVO devices themselves. If you don't like TiVO devices, don't buy or use them. Use one of the alternatives.

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    7. Re:Random Numbers by bingoUV · · Score: 1

      My gripe with GPL3 is that it is more restrictive license than GPL2, and thus "less free"

      True, in one sense of the word i.e. the direct freedom of the publisher / supplier.

      in all sense of the word

      FALSE with capital letters. E.g. one freedom that it increases is the freedom of the end user to tinker with the hardware.

      And isn't that your gripe with proprietary software, that there is too much control. So in essence, you have created the very thing you've championed against.

      Problematic. An item "reduces" freedom only if it forces itself on someone, or makes the more free items unavailable. Physical goods being sold can be said to reduce freedom even if they don't alter your use of the more free items because there is a threat the more free items will not be available to normal users any more if the less free item succeeds too much. There is no such risks on licenses.

      Software Developer : A developer still has access to GPL v2 (and MIT / Apache / BSD licenses) after the creation of GPL v3. So in that sense, one more license can never reduce the freedom of a copyright owner.

      So, in full wakefulness, a software developer chooses to license his code under GPL v3 after considering other licenses to be unsuitable and it being too much work to create one more license. No loss of freedom by creation of GPL v3.

      Distributor : a software is available as GPL v3. Without GPL v3, the distributor has no right to distribute it any way. GPL v3 is adding to the freedom of the distributor to distribute code that he doesn't own. No loss of freedom for the distributor, though he gains less freedom than he would have gained had the software developer chosen GPL v2. This is not the distributor's decision, and freedom to choose others' actions is not a sustainable form of freedom as you can easily understand yourself.

      End user : No loss of freedom for end user obviously. Now he has the added freedom of more tinkering with the hardware.

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      Bingo Dictionary - Pragmatist, n. A myopic idealist.
  27. Re:Do you like being worshiped ? by tomknight · · Score: 1

    Okay, that's a better question than mine.

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    Oh arse
  28. Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by tepples · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When passing this question on to Mr. Stallman, try replacing "open source" with "free software". He prefers the term "free software", despite that the Debian Free Software Guidelines are nearly identical to the OSI Open Source Definition.

    So since 2009, when FSF's essay on Microsoft got a major update, is it good that free software communities have begun to work closer with Microsoft than ever before?

    1. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Is he really that touchy and pedantic?

    2. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by JustOK · · Score: 5, Funny

      ask him.

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    3. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by X0563511 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Free Software and Open Source are not the same thing, the terms are not interchangeable. See my signature for an explanation.

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    4. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yes, but rather justifiably so. Free software simply isn't 100% synonymous with open source, as you can publish the source code of something under a license that isn't free. So when you're talking about legal issues - and licensing is essentially a legal issue - it absolutely pays to be specific to the point of being pedantic.

    5. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by LordStormes · · Score: 1

      Yes. A thousand times yes.

    6. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Open source != source available. OSI keeps a database of licenses they deem "open source", and their definition is derived from Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG).

    7. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by molleradura · · Score: 3, Informative

      Ok, but just in this case "opensource" can be substituted by "free software". The only licence i know that is "opensource" but not "free software" is: - NASA Open Source Agreement (NOSA) There are not licences that arre "free software" but not "opensource". Microsoft is not using "NOSA" so microsoft in this case "opensource" might be substituted by "free software".

    8. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Richard, are you really that touchy and pedantic?

    9. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't really care, but even Georg Greve (from FSF Europe) said these terms are more or less the same.

    10. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes.

      (Posting AC because I really am touchy and pedantic.)

    11. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by rubikscubejunkie · · Score: 2

      What is the difference between Satan and The Great Satan?

    12. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

      (Philip J. Fry squint)

    13. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by Lennie · · Score: 1

      A thousand times sounds like a lot, so how did things improve for the free software and open source communities who don't have to deal with the Windows platform ?

      Or did things only improve for people already tied to the Windows platform, that doesn't sounds like an improvement than.

      I'm kinda tired right now and I can't think of anything which improved.

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    14. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by denvergeek · · Score: 1

      Do bears shit in the woods?

    15. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by Arker · · Score: 2

      Paying close attention to semantic hygiene and insisting on precision is actually why he is still very relevant today. The world would be better off with more like him and far fewer like you.

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    16. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have clearly never been to a seminar where he was a speaker.

    17. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by Alomex · · Score: 1

      He prefers the term "free software",

      Of course because the equivocation between "free beer" and "free as in freedom" is on purpose.

    18. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by sg_oneill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I at first thought RMS was being pedantic, but I've come to realise he actually had a point. Its not just enough to let people see the code, the code has to be defended against those who would seek to close it up. We've seen plenty of times where people have tried to take GPL code and close it, and that GPL licence has proven to be a weapon on our side. It provided a (fortunately unneeded) backline defense in the SCO case where if all the other defences failed, we had a final option of pointing to SCO's acceptance of the GPL. We've seen router and set-top boxes stealing peoples hard work on GPL code and we've been able to pry that code back off them. If it was just "open source" we would have had to accept the fail, but because of the *free* stuff , we've kept code free.

      Look at the free-software GNU/Linux desktops. Still for the most part free. Now look at android with its open-source userland, locked down almost as bad as the iphones. The difference couldn't be starker.

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    19. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sir, I believe you mean A thousand twenty-four times yes

    20. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      That just shows you haven't even looked up the difference. I mean, seriously, most new Open Source these days is NOT "Free Software." It does not have a license that uses copyright to pro-actively protect users' freedom. Instead, the software is simply openly available, for free uses, or non-free uses, and including uses that subvert past contributions and create divergence followed by feature lock.

      I'm personally not worried about feature lock because my own belief is that as long as I don't rely on closed source, proprietary software, then I can protect my own freedom, and if users of my software have their feedoms under attack by embrace-and-extend, the community knows how to respond and defend itself.

      But I don't see how we would have got here without Free Software paving the trail, and I would worry about the future if there was no more Free Software.

    21. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And this is why RMS is no longer relevant

      Because of something that tepples posted on Slashdot?

    22. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by clarkn0va · · Score: 4, Informative

      I don't see how preferring "free software" over "open source software" makes one touchy or pedantic, given that RMS has stated his reasons for said preference. You may not agree with him, but it doesn't add anything to the discussion to label him.

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    23. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're confusing free software with copyleft. Liberal licenses like the MIT license or BSD-style licensing, such as the Apache license in Android, are free licenses--even the FSF say so. You are talking about copyleft, which is an orthogonal concept. Some copyleft licenses are free; some free licenses are copyleft.

    24. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by Isaac+Remuant · · Score: 2

      It's not touchy and pedantic to ask for the proper term when the term you are using has a different meaning.

      Confusion often strives from people using the same words to talk about different things.

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    25. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by Isaac+Remuant · · Score: 2

      He doesn't refuse,if you've ever met him. He doesn't. He might repeat again where the difference relies and why he says one instead of the other but, if you meet him, you'll see he is nothing like you portray.

      Anyway, it's always easy for people to criticize someone they don't agree with. Specially when they don't adhere to the norm (whether it be for behavior, personality or image).

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      "Science can amuse and fascinate us all, but it is engineering that changes the world. " - Asimov.
    26. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      He'll probably respond with something like this

      1. appstore applications can still be open source/gpl.

      2. he's right that app stores are basically drm disguised as convenience. They are turning the internet and computer use into cable television. Most worryingly, the control over the software users depend on is centralizing more and more, keeping them dependent on the vendor's continued existence and market expectations. Thus the users can no longer depend on their tools being consistent or even available in the long run. They can also expect to deal with recurring charges in order to retain access. These are the principle changes that contrast computing in the 90s as a way of empowerment to computing today as a way of enslavement.

      3. I don't mind if developers want to make some cash, but they shouldn't be given the ability to indian-give. Unfortunately, app stores allow the technical enforcement of draconian licensing, and they can revoke purchases at any time. If you still don't get it, then think about it this way: what if the users could rescind their payments any time they like, straight out of your bank account? How would you feel about the security of your finances?

    27. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Except I have copies of all the apps I have every bought, so even when something is pulled I can, and have, load it from my copy.

      Doesn't Apple store a copy for you or allow you to back up your copy to you computer?

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    28. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Paying close attention to semantic hygiene and insisting on precision is actually why he is still very relevant today.

      So is paying close attention to personal hygiene and insisting on not eating crumbs from your beard when giving a presentation. The world would be even better off if he was presentable when he imparts wisdom.

    29. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by jedwidz · · Score: 1

      Not ambiguous really... you say 'free software', it's clear from context that by 'free' you mean 'free as in software'.

    30. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by atomicxblue · · Score: 1

      You've apparently never heard him then. He's walked out of interviews because people called it Linux and not GNU/Linux. Open source, free software -- I don't care what we call it, as long as it's safe, secure and peer reviewed (i.e. the source is freely available).

    31. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you mean w.r.t. Android? You're free to download the source, modify and flash it onto your device.

    32. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by atomicxblue · · Score: 1

      My issue is with the GNU/Linux vs Linux debate. Call it George for all I care. The OS we have today is greater than the sum of any one part and the energy we have wasted on this trivial debate could be better spent fixing crackling sounds using pulseaudio with some sound cards or working towards a full desktop system that uses very little CPU time and boots in a few seconds, as two examples.

    33. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      most people don't have or maintain those backups though.. so they're shit out of luck and without recourse.. they can't just order a replacement disk... and that's the stickler: apple 'allows' you to.. the old model allowed at least some form of intrinsic ownership. This one does not, and the 'cloud' based stuff is even less reliable.

    34. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given the vast amount of FOSS technologies that make up the lower levels of the stack in most idioms, I'd say it'll be fine for the foreseeable future.

    35. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      his answer would probably be something like "You can't use appstores because they are non free" which of course would be consigning FOSS to the dustbin of history since both Apple and MSFT have already embraced the appstore and they together own the desktop and a pretty large chunk of mobile.

      For reasons epyT-R already described, youre asking FOSS to become the enemy to beat the enemy, IMO a fate worse than being consigned to the dustbin of history. You could have said similar things about consoles and FOSS gaming.

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    36. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, did you misspell Santa?

    37. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by VMaN · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure how serious you are, but for 99% of the population there is nothing clear about that statement.

    38. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by c++0xFF · · Score: 1

      Download the source? Check.
      Modify it? Check.
      Flash it onto your device? Uh .... maybe. If you can get root. (Which, fortunately, is usually possible, despite the best efforts of the carriers.)

      I think that's the rub right now, and it goes right back to the Tivoization debate.

    39. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That just shows you haven't even looked up the difference. I mean, seriously, most new Open Source these days is NOT "Free Software." It does not have a license that uses copyright to pro-actively protect users' freedom. Instead, the software is simply openly available, for free uses, or non-free uses, and including uses that subvert past contributions and create divergence followed by feature lock.

      I'm personally not worried about feature lock because my own belief is that as long as I don't rely on closed source, proprietary software, then I can protect my own freedom, and if users of my software have their feedoms under attack by embrace-and-extend, the community knows how to respond and defend itself.

      But I don't see how we would have got here without Free Software paving the trail, and I would worry about the future if there was no more Free Software.

      Uh, a license that is "simply openly available, for free uses, or non-free uses, and including uses that subvert past contributions and create divergence followed by feature lock" (for example, the three-clause BSD license) **IS** Free Software. It's not copyleft, which is a stronger *variant* on the Free Software model, but you only have to "respect the four freedoms" to be declared Free Software -- you don't also have to be copyleft. So the continuum is something like: Copyleft is super-strong Free Software that also prevents any derivatives from becoming something other than Free Software; regular old "liberally licensed" Free Software is "weak" Free Software where derivatives can become non-Free; and then there are Open Source licenses that don't respect one or more of the Four Freedoms and therefore cannot be considered to be Free Software at all.

    40. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by jedwidz · · Score: 1

      I started out serious, but posted ironic.

      I honestly thought that 'free software' was both 'as in beer' (distribution charges aside) and 'as in speech'. That makes it a brand new sense of the word, not yet in any dictionary - 'free' as in 'free software'.

      But then a quick fact check revealed that 'free software' is just 'as in speech', and not 'as in beer'.

      Sigh... maybe there really is no such thing as 'free software'. As in 'lunch'.

    41. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by grumpy_old_grandpa · · Score: 1

      > Look at the free-software GNU/Linux desktops. Still for the most part free. Now look at android with its open-source userland, locked down almost as bad as the iphones. The difference couldn't be starker.

      This is a good example, and I had a similar experience at the recent LinuxCon Europe in Barcelona. Of all the talk from companies benefiting from GNU/Linux, none, NONE AT ALL, mentioned the freedom aspect. It was all about the colabrative model through open source, and how businesses could use and benefit.

      The word free was merely used as a joke: "Free as in beer is waiting in the lobby". I didn't percive it as hostile, but rather somewhat ignorant; at a Linux conferance one would expect people to know better.

    42. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by grumpy_old_grandpa · · Score: 1

      Even RMS admits that (final paragraph) the Android project is a huge step in the right direction. However, the binary blobs are still a big problem. You have no control over what's going on there, cannot use the device to its full potential without them, and have no guarantee that the code is not used against you (if you are of the paranoid kind; which many of us on Slashdot are, after all.. ;-)

      In the same paragraph, he recommends the Android derivative Replicant, which just last week announced a new version matching Android 4.0. Depending on your use-case and point of view, you might or might not miss the Google specific applications, which are not under any free or open source license. That includes the GMail reader, the native Google Maps app, the Youtube app, and a few others.

    43. Re:Is Microsoft the Great Satan? Betteridge says by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      Except for one little problem gameboy, and I'll be happy to bring citations if you like, and that is VERY often RMS has made polarizing statements just like that. For example when asked about 10 years ago how FOSS developers should be able to survive when anybody can just copy their work and put it in direct competition for free RMS said "They should charge for documentation" basically claiming they should be able to charge for that knowledge and he was okay with that. so what happens 5 years later when its brought to his attention that several FOSS programs were doing exactly that? he railed against the devs that charged saying "documentation should be free!" thus doing a 180 on his own statement from 5 years earlier.

      So i'm sorry gameboy, but after watching the man for the past decade i think he just fucking hates programmers, at least all that won't worth for absolutely nothing. I USED to think he was just a classical communist, but then he never railed about how doctors or corps or CEOs should work for nothing, ONLY programmers get that "joy" in RMS' world. So I have NO doubt that if a programmer was stuck between choosing an appstore or doing without work RMS would tell him to starve, I truly believe this.And as the man gets older he just gets more and more radical, look at how he used the license as a weapon with the "TiVo clause", going so far as to name it after the company that pissed him off which is VERY unprofessional to say the least, well I truly believe that if the world goes to an appstore model rather than allow compromise he would let FOSS die out.

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  29. slashdotted... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If entire server farms can be slashdotted into the ground through traffic simply by refering to them in a post, how about a single individual, even one as magnificent as RMS?

  30. Why is source code so important. by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Shouldn't we push more for Open Specifications vs Open Source Code.

    If a hardware manufacturer just releases the specification we could create a program to interface with it. If say Microsoft was fully open about its Office Document Specification we could program a 100% compatible system for it.

    Having access to Source Code has limited appeal to me. Everyone codes differently and as software gets older it will undoubtedly get to a point where it needs a fresh rewrite. If you release the specs then it allows the freedom of a new system to be made without all the legacy code that most people are afraid to touch.

    The argument if the program is Open Source then it is Open Spec, isn't a good one. For example I had to maintain some FORTRAN Code. Then I needed to parse a data file the program made. I had the source... However the Data File wouldn't read when I recompiled the code on a different system. As the Datafile dumped the endianness of the memory into the file. In order for me to parse the file I had to get access to the specification of the original hardware to show me the difference in endianness of the old system with the new one.

    Writing code is easy. Remaking code is easy too. Knowing the specification of the program now that is hard. So if there was a bigger push to Open Specification vs Open Source Code, I feel we would have far more software freedom in the world.

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    1. Re:Why is source code so important. by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 3, Informative

      The problem with the MOO-XML (Microsoft Office Open XML) specification (all 6,000-ish pages of it) was that it wasn't fully open.

      The format, as it started, was rather transparently a 1-for-1 XML serialization of the internal binary data structures of Office. Some bits of it are still blobs, they're just blobs inside an XML / ZIP container.

      The "strict" ECMA 376 / ISO 29500 variant is what happened as a result of the consultation process, and even MS Office doesn't support it. It likely never will. Office continues to support new non-XML binary formats.

      The only way to implement a lot of the features in the format is to have a comprehensive specification of exactly how the internals of Office behave. In some cases, you probably need detailed specs of the internals of Windows itself - remember all those special API calls in Windows that Office uses? And if you go to all the trouble of producing such a specification - well, it would have been easier and more accurate to publish the source code of the program.

      The "Office Open XML" serves two purposes... one, "Office Open" is similar enough to "OpenOffice" to introduce a desirable level of confusion. Two, it allows anyone who has an organizational policy to support Open formats, as you describe, to check a box on the form that says MS Office supports a "Standard" open format. Because the matter is complicated (and the spec is 6,000 pages long), investigating this claim takes so long that the purchase order to renew MS Office licenses can be signed while the arguments still go on. Those persons with a vested interest will shake hands, public money will go into corporate coffers, etc.

      How about this : the UK National Health Service once had an agreement to cover all it's users with MS Office licenses. The 3rd largest employer in the world, with over a million employees, a back-of-napkin calculation would suggest that the cost per year must have been on the order of $100M. Imagine what could be done for an open office suite with even a fraction of that. I think someone did imagine it at Microsoft UK HQ - the licensing agreement was broken off, and now individual healthcare trusts negotiate for their licensing deals - which is more likely ; someone saying

      * "Oh my, MS Office licenses are costing us $100M - let's divert $30M a year into LibreOffice and use that instead across the whole NHS"
      OR
      * "Oh my, MS Office licenses are costing us (a few tens of thousands) - let's divert (a few thousand) into LibreOffice and use that instead, even though no-one else will be"

    2. Re:Why is source code so important. by hobarrera · · Score: 1

      Open source is also important when it comes to security (which is a point you'll hear over and over from BSD folks).
      How can I be sure that non-open-source software is secure? Now I'm not just talking about backdoors: closed-source software can have bugs. And even if I find them, it may be impossible for me to fix them, possibly forcing me to stop whatever I'm using it for.

      There's also the fact of portability. If a new architecture/OS/etc comes out, how do I build your closed-software for it? How do I get it ported quickly? I can't.

    3. Re:Why is source code so important. by cupantae · · Score: 1

      This is the best question. I really hope it gets answered.

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  31. GlovePIE by tepples · · Score: 1

    "The freedom to run the program, for any purpose" This includes the freedom to use a program to kill or torture people. Don't you think it is time to include a clause that forbid this kind of "freedom"?

    I'm pretty sure he'd say no. The license of GlovePIE software is non-free because it includes a restriction against the sort of military use you envision.

    1. Re:GlovePIE by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      your terrorist is my freedom fighter. your traitors to the crown are my country's Founding Fathers.....

    2. Re:GlovePIE by gman003 · · Score: 1

      If only it stopped at "non-military" uses. The author of GlovePIE seems to be one of those cause-obsessed fanatics - the site is covered with blurbs decrying Scientology, homeopathy, and global warming, to name a few. Even if you agree with him on these things, he comes off as an asshole, because the GlovePIE site seems to talk more about anything except the actual software.

      To download, you basically have to agree to only use "100% Green power". The license agreement includes the following clauses:
      * Cannot be used with military software - explicitly including being used to play America's Army
      * Cannot be used in Israel or any Israeli-occupied territory until Israel meets a rather long list of demands. He claims to have put some code in there to disable the software if it's run in Israel.
      * Cannot be used to cheat at multiplayer games (which yeah, I can understand that one)

      And somehow he has the audacity to claim some license terms from the Kinect SDK are "fascist".

  32. Free software business model: Games by tepples · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is my first of two questions about free software business models.

    Several kinds of software have historically depended on the business model of restricting distribution. One is video games. Video games consist of far more than a computer program; they also consist of so-called "assets", such as textures, meshes, maps, audio, and other kinds of non-program works for which you don't want people using the term "content". In a world where all software is distributed under a free software license, how would the development of new video games be financed? The model of selling support, which Red Hat has successfully applied to business software, might work for massively multiplayer online games but wouldn't work so well for anything else because a single-player game doesn't need much support after the sale once it's running.

    1. Re:Free software business model: Games by RicardoGCE · · Score: 1

      He's addressed this before:

      Free software is a matter of freedom, not price. A free game need not be gratis. It is feasible to develop free games commercially, while respecting your freedom to change the software you use. Since the art in the game is not software, it does not need to be free. There is in fact free game software developed by companies, as well as free games developed noncommercially by volunteers. Crowdfunding development will only get easier.

      As long as the source code is free, he doesn't seem to object to keeping digital assets proprietary.

    2. Re:Free software business model: Games by RicardoGCE · · Score: 1
    3. Re:Free software business model: Games by tepples · · Score: 1

      Richard Stallman wrote in the article "Nonfree DRM'd Games on GNU/Linux: Good or Bad?": "There is in fact free game software developed by companies". But he neglects to point out to which game he is referring. Was it free from day one, or was it the typical Id Software practice of releasing the engine as free software five years later? And has it sold in commercially significant quantities? Furthermore, if someone wants to replace the militantly non-free environment of video game consoles with an environment that respects users' freedom, what's the best device for running games with a free engine and displaying them on a television-sized monitor?

    4. Re:Free software business model: Games by vlm · · Score: 1

      In a world where all software is distributed under a free software license, how would the development of new video games be financed?

      Google for kickstarter GPL and/or just go look for "pissed off penguins", a GPL angry birds clone. A couple grand isn't going to fund a giant programming house, but if you take a giant programming house to do something that simple, ur doin it wrong.

      There's a lot of history in the *hack genre and text adventure genre (post infocom, of course) of financing development via the day job. The world seems to be running out of ideas for simple single player games, taking a decade to build the open cathedral for pacman for example might soon be realistic for general use rather than rare today.

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  33. Dreamhost has the FSF as it's 4x donation option by gQuigs · · Score: 2

    If you are looking to donate to the FSF, you can do so through dreamhost until december and they will donate 4x the donation.

    Previous post about it: http://bryanquigley.com/converting/dreamhost-customer-free-software-foundation-supporter

  34. Spanish and French Science Fiction? by eldavojohn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You're a fan of science fiction and speak Spanish and French. Do you know of any good Spanish and French sci-fi that English speakers should look into? The field seems to be dominated by English writers and I've been making an effort to reach out to foreign authors and looking for translations. And if you don't know of any, who are your current favorite sci-fi authors? Any unknown sleepers that you've found that people should read?

    I just read "Roadside Picnic" and it was so good, I was surprised I had not heard of it until recently.

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    1. Re:Spanish and French Science Fiction? by chihowa · · Score: 1

      This is fairly old, and I haven't read any of his other stuff, but I thought La invención de Morel by Adolfo Casares was very good. It's a fairly short book, but it is very well written and doesn't feel dated, which is weird for that epoch of sci-fi.

      Anyway, I heartily second this question!

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    2. Re:Spanish and French Science Fiction? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Awesome! Thank you for the recommendation!

    3. Re:Spanish and French Science Fiction? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know Chinese Sci-Fi author Liu Cixin (because I am a Chinese),
      Spanish or French native speakers may know that better.

  35. Any regrets? by Catiline · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It has been very nearly 30 years since the founding of the GNU Foundation. In all that time, what is your biggest regret?

    1. Re:Any regrets? by RLiegh · · Score: 1

      Not exactly a regret, but I bet you he cries himself to sleep at night when he sees the reverses in software openness that the IT industry has made (going mobile, going cloud, etc) and the steps backwards we've made in the last few years.

      It's gotta be hard to see the open source movement snatch defeat from the jaws of victory...

    2. Re:Any regrets? by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      ugh 'going cloud' ,really? There is nothing inherently wrong with off-site storage/processing. I run my own cloud, using Free and Open Source software/hardware.

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    3. Re:Any regrets? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Yes, not lobbying hard enough to have it named "Stallnix" instead of "Linux" :-)

      Gnunix? Gnux?

    4. Re:Any regrets? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We run "Stallnix" here, but most call it "Windows". Or was that "Crashnix"? I forgot.

  36. Free software business model: Tax software by tepples · · Score: 1

    Several kinds of software have historically depended on the business model of restricting distribution. One is tax form preparation software. In a world where all software is distributed under a free software license, how would continuing updates to tax software be financed? Converting the annual changes to the tax codes in dozens of jurisdictions to a machine-readable expert system is time-consuming and requires the effort of people who are experts in both tax law and software engineering. Perhaps the key is that software distributed under a free software license comes with "ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY", as opposed to the fact that the big publishers of individual income tax software in the United States (Intuit and H&R Block) stake their corporate reputations on the accuracy and timeliness of these translations.

    1. Re:Free software business model: Tax software by magic+maverick+ · · Score: 1

      Here's how I would do it:
      The organisation that makes the tax code, also puts out the software that will allow an individual to file a return. I.e. fuck the corporations, there is no inherent right to make a profit.
      The government should simplify the tax system (by, e.g. closing loopholes and reducing the number of regressive taxes), create a Free Software solution, and then verify the results when people file their tax returns.

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    2. Re:Free software business model: Tax software by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      The organisation that makes the tax code, also puts out the software that will allow an individual to file a return.

      That was the plan, believe it or not.

      There was a time in ages past that the IRS figured out that going electronic would make everything better so they started doing so and allowed tax preparation agencies to file returns electronically. Said agencies did so for big bucks, when I first heard of it, it cost over $200.

      The IRS then thought that e-file was such a good thing that everyone should be doing it and they decided to writer their own software, to give away and let everyone file electronically for free.

      Then the tax preparation services got wind of it, and it was all over. The government was able to get a concession that the providers give free federal filing to people making lower incomes. However they now upsell state returns heavily.

      In some states, however, the state government DOES supply free filing services themselves and the commercial tax preparation services/software are not involved. (In Illinois it's a web page, the PDF's of returns are produced with open source software)

    3. Re:Free software business model: Tax software by j-beda · · Score: 1

      I've always thought that the IRS (or other tax collection agency) should be supplying this type of software. They are the ones who know what the rules are supposed to be, they should be the ones to implement it. If they can write the text rules for how to implement the system, they should be able to write the computing rules too. Then make the whole thing open source and/or free software, so anyone interested can double check that the calcs are being done correctly.

  37. Gnus, anyone? by hasso · · Score: 1

    Hey, do you like Gnus? Thanks

  38. Your computer of choice by thomas8166 · · Score: 1

    I've read that your personal machine uses a Loonson processor. Is there any particular reason you chose this architechture over x86, aside from avoiding the proprietary IP cores?

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  39. Are you really a prima donna? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://idle.slashdot.org/story/11/10/28/1432221/the-rms-tour-rider

    https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/pipermail/developers-public/2011-October/007647.html

  40. FSF and GNU successorship by Digana · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Although GNU and the FSF's views are often thought to be exactly the same as yours, they are not. GNU and the FSF are many other people and although they overall have the same aims, individuals associated to each organisation may deviate slightly from your views.

    The FSF right now is pretty indepenent from you. John Sullivan is actively leading it, but there are other very public members of the FSF. It has become independent from you, even if you're still the president of the FSF. Unlike its beginnings, the FSF is also no longer primarily concerned with creating free software, but rather it is now involved in campaigning for free software. Social activists mostly aligned with your views have replaced the hacker majority in the FSF.

    GNU has no such clear independence. You have the final say on aything that happens in GNU, such as for example usinng bzr as a DVCS for Emacs, a choice of dubious tactical advantage that has generated much discontent. You have nevertheless vetoed any dissent on this topic. Your health is apparently deteriorating, and I hesitate to think what will become of GNU when you die.

    Is there any clear path for the future governance of GNU you in the same way that the FSF has done this?

  41. Creative works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Do you think that music should be copyleft licensed?

    I am a musician and supporter of the free software movement. I feel compelled to release my musical creations under copyleft licenses and feel the moral implications of non-rivalrous digital sharing apply to my work. I have heard the argument that we should think of "creative" and "practical" works separately; that creative works are meant to be an expression of their creator and thus society doesn't benefit from allowing others to modify that expression. But doesn't this assume too clear a distinction between creative and practical? Can't code be expressive, and music utilitarian? And even when music is purely personal expression, won't society benefit from individuals being able to meld a work to meet their own tastes? The subjectivity of music's value means modifications are particularly valid. In the end, I feel like soceity would benefit if all digital works, creative and otherwise, were copyleft.

    1. Re:Creative works by marcello_dl · · Score: 1

      I wounldn't see the music/code comparison as creative vs. useful.
      The problem with music or other artistic works is that a modification can HUGELY alter its quality, for the worst. It's already difficult for an artist not to ruin its own ideas.

      So a share, but not alter clause seems very appropriate IMHO

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    2. Re:Creative works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a musician too, and I've wrestled with the issue for a while now. I've come to a somewhat peripheral decision that doesn't exactly answer the question, but it's been a very interesting experiment. I stopped recording CDs a while back, and currently offer my catalogue for free on my website in a variety of formats; folks arer encouraged to download and share to their heart's content. This also means that I am not producing CD-associated waste that ultimately ends up in the trash. If someone wants to record a cover of one of my songs to place on a commercial, for-sale CD, the usual licensing fees apply. If they themselves are planning to give it away, then there is no licensing fee; I just send them a formal document giving them the right to record and distribute the tune. It's certainly not a perfect solution (just ask my bank account!), but I do like it as a move on the chessboard. Other musicians, however, sometimes become very upset by it, which is understandable. Many people don't value what we do, and expect us to perform and write for free; giving music away might very well encourage that behavior, which is most definitely NOT my intention (and I always make a point to buy other artist's CDs when we play shows together).

  42. GNU Movement from another ethical point of view? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The GNU Movement as an Ethical Movement is based on the Utilitarianism doctrine. Have you think the GNU Movement from another perspective, for example, from the Aristotelian point of view or from the Consequentialism?

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  43. Android and Users' Freedom by rms by tepples · · Score: 1
  44. BSD/MIT licenses by Kergan · · Score: 1

    In retrospect, wouldn't free and open source software have been better off if the FSF had actively been promoting the use of the (New) BSD and MIT licenses? Or better yet, the use of unlicensed software?

  45. Is persuasion enough on its own? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They say that best way to save drowning people is to strike them on the head first, for them to pass out and no to interfere.

    Question: were you ever tempted to try other methods of convincing instead of pure evangelism, i.e.
    a) beauty appeal (Apple)
    b) inertia (Microsoft)
    c) 'benevolent' dictatorship (Linus)

    If not, why? Are you happy with what you achieved or do you think you could have achieved more by being less respectful to others?

  46. Why FDR and Churchill? by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    During a Q&A Session a while back you were asked about people and movements near and dear to your heart and you said "I admire Franklin D. Roosevelt and Winston Churchill, even though I criticize some of the things that they did." I love World War II history and I also find myself in a love-hate situation with Churchill. Could you go into further detail about what specifics lead you to single out these two over leaders like Lincoln, Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin or even historical figures who have enabled information itself like Turing, Shannon, etc?

    --
    My work here is dung.
    1. Re:Why FDR and Churchill? by magic+maverick+ · · Score: 2

      If RMS really admires these two, then my respect for him has gone down.

      Winston "let's fuck up attacking the Ottomans" Churchill.
      Winston "give India home rule? not on my watch" Churchill.
      Winston "we can't have an election, there's a war on" Churchill.
      Winston "let's shoot the natives because they are savages" Churchill.
      Winston "Bolshevism must be strangled in its cradle" Churchill.
      The man who wanted to machine gun striking miners, and admired Italian fascism.
      The man who talked of Jewish Conspiracy.
      The man who supported Japanese intervention into China (because the Japanese had to worry about the "eeevil" Communists in Russia and in parts of China).
      The man who wanted to hold onto the empire at any cost to the people who inhabited it (see Malaysia, India, and various others).

      Franklin D. Roosevelt who conspired to split Europe, had many other flaws. But I won't go into them here.

      --
      HELP MY ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HACKED BY AN ILLIBERAL ART STUDENT SET TO DESTROY THE INTERWEBZ!
  47. MUSIC by vlm · · Score: 1

    Hey RMS I enjoyed listening to your "recent" interview on hacker public radio (its a podcast, or more accurately a syndication of podcasts, or something like that)

    Anyway you talked a little about your wide ranging tastes in music and I've always wondered if you (or anyone else) has analyzed taste in specific genre of music vs taste is specific genre of programming. Like people who like psy-trance really like functional programming languages. Or wider range, like the most genre of music you like, the more genre of programming you like (which seems obvious?).

    Only half way kidding around, if I'm trying to learn Scala, for example, what music should I listen to for inspiration?

    --
    "Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
    1. Re:MUSIC by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      Are you 12 years old? Music is a personal choice, and just leave it at that. While its true that certain tempos can affect us, saying 'house-trance-mix-40000 is the best music for hypno-programming' is retarded.

      --
      Good-bye
  48. Open source laptops (hardware) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is the Yeeloong-8133 ever going to drop? are you going to get one? where can i actually find one of these things?

  49. GNU visibility and factioning by Digana · · Score: 3, Interesting

    GNU is supposed to be a free operating system as well as a group of people working towards building this OS. To a casual observer, however, GNU does not appear very active. Some of the most prominent and supposedly GNU packages, such as Gimp, Gnome, GTK+, and R are mostly GNU in name only. The hackers working on these projects have very little interaction with other hackers working on GNU projects and they very frequently espouse views contrary to GNU's philosophical aims. Thus to an outside observer, GNU does not appear to be a cohesive group of people working towards a common goal. Many GNU mailing lists being private further the public perception that GNU is not even actively producing software anymore.

    What can be done to remedy this situation? How can we strengthen GNU, make it reach out again to the people it's supposed to be freeing?

  50. Apologies, RMS, but Obligatory XKCD by ilikenwf · · Score: 1

    In all due seriousness, I heartily support your efforts...but a little fun is always a good thing!

    https://xkcd.com/225/

    1. Re:Apologies, RMS, but Obligatory XKCD by sp332 · · Score: 1
  51. MIT 1973 by jfb2252 · · Score: 1

    If memory serves, you got your SB at MIT in 1973. Is there anyone else in the class of 1973 whose work you respect? Or anyone who was on campus at the time, student/faculty/staff?

  52. Portability and implicit assumptions by tepples · · Score: 2

    I agree with you that the source code is not a complete specification of a program's behavior by itself, but the source code combined with the target platform's ABI is closer to complete. To get around this endianness problem when running the program, you could emulate the original target platform. To get around it when porting the program to a new machine, you could run the program's unit test suite in parallel on the emulated and native systems and then add explicit handling of these implicit assumptions, such as htonl() for endianness, wherever the test results do not match. This way, the source code itself becomes a more complete specification.

    1. Re:Portability and implicit assumptions by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      This was years ago, and I have fixed it. It was more to a point that the specification was more important than the source.

      --
      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    2. Re:Portability and implicit assumptions by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      The source IS the specification, everything else is merely a convenient description of it.

      --
      And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
  53. How do you cope with being right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You have an impressive track record of being steadfastly correct/prescient about issues of significance, years or decades before common wisdom catches up. Detractors heap on the derision, without apology or accountability. It must be emotionally trying.

    How do you cope with being right?

  54. 'Walled Garden' Environments by dontfearthereaper · · Score: 1

    What is your opinion on the 'walled garden' that Microsoft, Apple, and the collective of OEMs (software and hardware) that go along with MS, have force fed to businesses and mainstream users over the past 20 years and is there any real longevity/long term viability in the walled garden business model? I ask because of the lack of resistance from SW/HW vendors to MS's 'Surface' UI being instated across both the mobile devices and desktop/server (Windows Server 2012 also forces this UI).

  55. Favorite hack by vlm · · Score: 5, Interesting

    (insert my standard question for all tech type people)
    Give me your best hack. Specifically something YOU did personally not hire / grad student.
    Hardware, software only (yes yes the GPL is cool but I'm looking for code or schematic or at least a description of something made out of source or solder)

    I can't put words in your mouth but the ideal answer would be something like "I'm particularly proud of the O(n) memory garbage collection routine in emacs implemented around '89 and how it worked was very roughly ..." or "I really like my homemade fully automatic automotive relay based routing system for my OH scale model railroad sorting yard" or "I built my own legal limit ham radio amplifier" almost certainly a different topic of course, but something of this form of answer.

    --
    "Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
    1. Re:Favorite hack by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      If you watch(ed) Revolution OS, I imagine his response would be the "whole hack that the Free Software movement is"

      --
      Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos
    2. Re:Favorite hack by vlm · · Score: 1

      If you watch(ed) Revolution OS, I imagine his response would be the "whole hack that the Free Software movement is"

      Nooooo thats specifically why I now ask something like "I'm looking for code or schematic or at least a description of something made out of source or solder"

      Otherwise its just "please name your favorite PR slogan/item"

      No I'm looking for something hack-ish not a free commercial.

      --
      "Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
    3. Re:Favorite hack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GNU Emacs. GDB.

    4. Re:Favorite hack by vlm · · Score: 1

      Exactly what I'm not looking for. I want a specific hack. Thats too big. Like Linux saying "linux" or me saying "my house"

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      "Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
    5. Re:Favorite hack by ArneBab · · Score: 1

      So look at the GPL. That’s a really great hack on the copyright system.

      --
      Being unpolitical
      means being political
      without realizing it.
  56. Re:Do you like being worshiped ? by capt.Hij · · Score: 1

    This brings up a good point. Let me rephrase the question.

    Mr Stallman, you are regarded as a founding father of the free software movement, and your opinion on free software carries a lot of weight. Because of this you are put under a harsh spot light, and every little thing you do is magnified. For example, your comments about Steve Jobs immediately after his death were broadcast quite widely. To some people the timing showed a lack of taste and were seen as disrespectful. Because of your status in the free software movement your statement was used by some to smear the larger community. How do you feel about this kind of attention? Have you given it much thought, and what kind of insight can you share about the situation you are in when your private and public mannerisms are misconstrued to be part of a larger group's views and outlooks?

  57. Re:Copy protection and GPL by alexhs · · Score: 4, Informative

    allots (2783683) and quartersa (2783685) are both astroturfing accounts, posting the minute the story goes live. Usually there's only one of them by story, but they have no shame :)

    --
    I have discovered a truly marvelous proof of killer sig, which this margin is too narrow to contain.
  58. Altering a referral code by marcello_dl · · Score: 3, Interesting

    IIRC at least once, some lin... er... GNU/Linux distro packagers modified some referral codes kept in the source of a program, overriding the upstream authors' choice, which would deprive them from the donations of the modified package.

    This seems technically compatible with the freedom allowed by GPL, what do you think of such a practice, anyway?

    Ciao!

    --
    ---- MISSING MISCELLANEOUS DATA SEGMENT --- [sigdash] trolololol
  59. Can the GPL *reduce* the user's freedom? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some companies (e.g. Digium) operate on the basis whereby they hold copyright, so they can release closed-source plugins for their product, while everyone else has the code under the GPL, so there cannot be any 3rd-party closed source plugins. This is a cunning business strategy which reduces choice in the market, in cases where GPL products cannot legally be used, for one reason or another (e.g. patent-encumbered codecs such as G.729).

    In such cases the GPL appears on the face of it to reduce the user's freedom. It's clear that the patent itself reduces the user's freedom, but given that such patents exist, the GPL seems to reduce the user's freedom even further. How would you respond to that?

  60. Mr. Stallman... by fishthegeek · · Score: 1

    Where exactly DO babies come from?

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    load "$",8,1
  61. How to make money? by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 1

    It seems to me that companies who make a living off free software mostly make money from contract and support work, not from selling the software itself, which also seems to work best if the software is very complex, see e.g. AdaCore. But what about traditional, desktop `end-consumer' software? When I asked this on some newsgroup a while ago, somebody suggested to use an extremely obscure programming language (security through obscurity), so nobody else than me would understand the source anyway.

    Do you have a better suggestion than writing everything in Brainf**ck? How can a small developer who makes software for everyone (as opposed to "b2b") make money with free software?

    1. Re:How to make money? by scared+masked+man · · Score: 0

      I suppose for Windows and OS X you could sell compiled binaries like Xchat does, but that doesn't really work so well for Linux where people expect to be able to manage updates through their package manager.

  62. GNU OS by Mazhe · · Score: 2

    Albeit slowly, the hurd kernel seems to come to something at a steady pace. Can we begin to expect a release of the GNU operating system as you envisioned it at the begining?

  63. What is the Meaning of Life? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Serious question. I'd like to hear your view.

  64. Your view on female Computer Scientists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I was able to assits to one of your talks when you were in Costa Rica. At that moment I was floored (in a good way) by all the stuff you mentioned, specially everything related to FOSS. It started an internal debate inside my head that is still quite active.
    Shortly after you made some sexists remarks at GCDS; as a father of a baby girl I found that to be disgusting. And it makes me wonder, what's your view on female Computer Scientists?

  65. Agreegation problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Raymond praised in his book: a pile of old festering hacks, endlessly copied and pasted by a clueless generation of IT "professionals" who wouldn't recognize sound IT architecture if you hit them over the head with it. It is hard to believe today, but under this embarrassing mess lies the ruins of the beautiful cathedral of Unix, deservedly famous for its simplicity of design, its economy of features, and its elegance of execution.

  66. Stolen bag / laptop in Argentina by Cigarra · · Score: 5, Informative

    What ever happened with the stolen bag and laptop? Did you get something back? Did you LOSE data (that is, was something not backed up)? Are you mad with the organizers / country that hosted the event?

    --
    I don't have a sig.
    1. Re:Stolen bag / laptop in Argentina by shawn(at)fsu · · Score: 1

      I want to know this also. The reports of RMS hitting himself in the forehead because he knew he shouldn't have left it unattended always made me feel a bad for him.

      --
      500 dollar reward for tip(s) leading to the arrest of the person(s) who stole my sig.
    2. Re:Stolen bag / laptop in Argentina by ArneBab · · Score: 1

      same for me.

      --
      Being unpolitical
      means being political
      without realizing it.
  67. Free software for human governance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hi, Richard.

    Have you given any thought to extending your ideas of freedom to the classic realm of freedom from government authority?

    I am not talking about anarchy (which is as possible on Earth as is vacuum), but rather using free software as the mechanism of human governance, in place of authoritative rulers.

    The member projects of the metagovernment project are building that software. To quote from that page: "Collaborative governance is centered around openness, inclusion, and freedom." Sounds similar to your philosophy, does it not?

    Wouldn't real democracy unleash people and enable them to pursue the rest of their freedoms?

    1. Re:Free software for human governance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Freedom is only for the geeky. Regular people should just do as they are told.

  68. Anti-software-patent tactics by WampagingWabbits · · Score: 1

    Have you ever considered taking a leaf out of Ghandi's book when fighting software patents, and organise something disruptive to the US Patent Office or courts? An Anti-Software-Patent day for example, where software developers send large numbers of humorous software patent applications to overload the Patent office staff for the day?

    1. Re:Anti-software-patent tactics by Seeteufel · · Score: 1

      Just contact the FFII.

  69. did you realize... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...you're asking this to the main author of GNU Emacs, that has been in development for more than 35 years and is right now in version 24, right?

    1. Re:did you realize... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Former main author; RMS no longer works on Emacs iirc.

    2. Re:did you realize... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's asking about solutions to problems that may no longer exist. Emacs is a solution to a problem that never existed.

    3. Re:did you realize... by bjourne · · Score: 1

      Wrong! He definitely works on Emacs. Just read the mailing list sometime.

    4. Re:did you realize... by mikael_j · · Score: 0

      I thought Emacs was the leading virtual LISP machine. It's got a bunch of neat software that will run on it. Sadly the default text editor is a bit clunky.

      --
      Greylisting is to SMTP as NAT is to IPv4
    5. Re:did you realize... by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Sadly the default text editor is a bit clunky.

      Luckily the built-in IDEs for most languages overcomes that for programming use.

      Though admittedly, I do use vim for editing config files.

    6. Re:did you realize... by scared+masked+man · · Score: 0

      Emacs was the solution to TECO, an editor/language with all the power of traditional unix stream tools and the readability of perl golf, in a monolithic program. (It had similar search power to pcre, but a totally different syntax to the regexes we know today.)

      Emacs provided all the power of TECO in an editor which was easier to use. (Indeed, it was originally some Editor MACroS for TECO.)

    7. Re:did you realize... by atomicxblue · · Score: 1

      I've used vim long enough to realize I don't like it. My console editor of choice will always be nano.

  70. What's with the hair? by nurbles · · Score: 1

    That's my question.

    Seriously, what's up with your hair?

    (it kinda freaks me out when I see photos of rms)

  71. Parrot? by Polo · · Score: 3, Funny

    Favorite type of parrot?

    1. Re:Parrot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A parrot-no-more?

  72. Free non-software by kthreadd · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Mr. Stallman the free software movement have as its name implies focused on free software. But there's a lot of other areas where the same principles can apply. For example literature, music and movies are in a similar field. But interesting areas could also include things like electronics and hardware design, or even medicine. What's your opinions on a free software-like movement surrounding areas like those?

    1. Re:Free non-software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even when OER is growing at a rate that will catch up to FOSS, the FSF maintains that it's UNETHICAL to lock up software, but it's fine for "works of opinion." RMS shouldn't have chickened out of debate with Nina Paley, FSF may be the first and last word on Free Software, but some day FSF will need to admit that it was never just about software.

      "Fair Use" is practically an Americanism, and won't scale globally like Free Culture. Get it right, FSF. For the sake of the largest library in human history, not just its computer section. This is my only beef with Stallman, a man I deeply admire but cannot stand with-- because our culture needs to be as free as our computing, because "practical" needs don't start and end at "technical" ones. Print out his speech, lose one page to a gust of wind, now the license forbids redistribution. CC ND is stupid, destsructive-- we'll kick out those dirty licenses. No, culture isn't the same as source code, RMS. But it's CLOSE ENOUGH, and it's time you stopped attacking Free Culture by downplaying its importance on the FSF website. "Why this license?" No free culture from FSF, just Open Core culture. FOOey.

  73. Hammer or nail? by Andy+Prough · · Score: 1

    Which would you rather be?

    1. Re:Hammer or nail? by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

      Swiss Army Knife?

  74. Issues with being an Activist by jayrtfm · · Score: 1

    Being an activist creates lifestyle and emotional issues that are different from just having a job and a hobby. Can you recommend any helpful books or websites that give advice on dealing with those issues?

  75. Online Privacy by dmomo · · Score: 1

    I cannot help to think that security, open software, and online privacy are all interconnected. There's a fine line between information we knowingly and unknowingly make public. What are you thoughts on personal privacy in the age of Social Networks and Internet tracking?

  76. Re:Copy protection and GPL by ssam · · Score: 1

    simple (as long as you own the copyright to *all* the code in your program, and the following is allowed by any libraries that you link to).

    * release the source code under the GPL
    * compile a second version of your program plus what every DRM you want, and charge money for it.
    * use trademarks to stop anyone compiling the GPL version and distributing it (unless they change the name).

  77. Women in Open Source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even though women cannot grow beards, can they ever make good unix sysadmins?

  78. Usage of "Gnu/Linux" vs "Linux" by Nick+Wilson · · Score: 1

    Ahoy! I've heard that in the past you've refused to participate on podcasts and such unless the hosts mandate that other guests in the discussion always use "Gnu/Linux" (when speaking of the OS) and "Linux" (when speaking of the kernel) during the discussion. If this is true, why take such a hardline stance and refuse to participate when instead you could participate and correct/explain other's usage of the terms? Even if you didn't convince the other speakers, wouldn't you have had the opportunity to reach a wider audience, and spread your ideas (as well as the correct usage of Gnu/Linux & Linux) to that audience?

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    The box said "Requires Windows XP or better"... so I installed Ubuntu!
    1. Re:Usage of "Gnu/Linux" vs "Linux" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have to agree. I have no problem referring to GNU as a complete system when I'm using a system designed and implemented with GNU in mind. While I'm quite sympathetic to the goals of the FSF, I feel that Linux distributions don't necessarily have anything to do with GNU philosophies aside from making use of their software in the same way GNU may might make use of Linux to complete their own system, and I personally choose not to refer to Linux as GNU/Linux unless a particular distribution was created with that goal in mind.

      I think it's simply a matter of RMS using the tools at his disposal to promote GNU and the FSF. However the eco-system we have today is the result of many competing yet not incompatible camps. Open Source, Free Software, BSD, etc. GNU is less and less important to Linux as time goes on. GNU is GNU, Linux is Linux. Android is Android, Ubuntu is Ubuntu. Is Ubuntu also Linux? Yes. Is Android also Linux? Yes. Is Android GNU/Linux? No. Is Ubuntu GNU/Linux? Yes, but it's up to them if they want to associate with GNU, it's not up to RMS to force the issue to satisfy his own agenda. In fact, referring to Ubuntu as GNU/Linux is interesting, because Ubuntu, like most distributions, offers non-free software, thus earning RMS's scorn. If RMS wouldn't want you to use it, is it truly right to refer to it as GNU/Linux when it doesn't conform perfectly and completely to the precepts of the FSF?

      What's in a name? that which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet. But then, GNU, while amusing from RMS's perspective as a name, from a marketing perspective isn't the best. And for pronounciation is a rather ugly word. guhnew. bless you. Linux, while not a perfect word, at least is comprised of the letters that make up Unix rearranged, with the added letter L to connotate Linus's involvement. Plus, Linux, by not being Unix, already invokes GNU, which is also not Unix. Spelling it out, GNU/Linux = GNU's not UNIX Linux, which is just redundant, as Linux is also not Unix.

    2. Re:Usage of "Gnu/Linux" vs "Linux" by Nick+Wilson · · Score: 1

      If I recall, it *should* be Gnu/Linux because the OS is comprised of the Gnu tools & the Linux kernel, so Ubuntu is a distribution of Gnu/Linux. Personally, I got into the habit of saying "Linux" because that's how I was introduced to the OS, and it was years before I learned the distinction betwixt Gnu/Linux and Linux.

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      The box said "Requires Windows XP or better"... so I installed Ubuntu!
    3. Re:Usage of "Gnu/Linux" vs "Linux" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But GNU only comprises 8-13% of any Linux distribution, and even that is pushing it. Android has no GNU whatsoever. There is no reason to refer to something as GNU/Linux. I like the term language-lawyering to refer to RMS's bad habit of correcting other peoples word usage. He might refer to hacking as "Playful Cleverness", but in common modern usage, that is not the connotation most dictionaries use. The fact of the matter is, RMS is not running some sort of Académie Anglaise that is the arbiter of proper usage of the English language, no matter how much he would love to be in charge of modern newspeak to promote his particular agenda. It's pedantic and hurts his cause more than helps it.

    4. Re:Usage of "Gnu/Linux" vs "Linux" by Nick+Wilson · · Score: 1

      That's why I asked his reasoning for taking such a hardline stance on the Gnu/Linux terminology ;) I don't know how much Gnu is in Ubuntu, nor how much the average person uses Gnu (I'm a sysadmin, I use it constantly). A different discussion is whether or not Gnu can be removed from say Desktop Ubuntu (I think someone else posted a similar question about how much Gnu can be taken out to just call the OS "Linux").

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      The box said "Requires Windows XP or better"... so I installed Ubuntu!
    5. Re:Usage of "Gnu/Linux" vs "Linux" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wordplay/semantics/riding the coattails of Linux success to push his own agenda.

  79. Why should we care? by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's well known that not everybody shares the same enthusiasm for open software, and sometimes this enthusiasm borders on a religious fervor that alienates people by being confrontational and borders on "my free software philosophy is right and yours is wrong".

    This can cause people to start tuning out the entire viewpoint and stop listening -- it certainly has for me.

    So, why should we care? And why must software be open to your standards?

    --
    Lost at C:>. Found at C.
    1. Re:Why should we care? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, why should we care? And why must software be open to your standards?

      fsf.org -> philosophy

      This has been answered many times. You haven't "[tuned] out the entire viewpoint"; you never bothered to read it in the first place.

    2. Re:Why should we care? by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      This has been answered many times. You haven't "[tuned] out the entire viewpoint"; you never bothered to read it in the first place.

      I think you've just demonstrated the first half of my post -- sorry, but you've basically said "RTFM". I've been using free software in some form or another since about '92 or so -- I most certainly have tuned out the more extreme aspects of it. But I didn't fully agree with RMS when I heard him lecture in the early 90s, and I still don't. Don't take that to mean that I've never educated myself on it.

      If Richard Stallman can't freshly articulate this point on demand, he's a pretty lousy advocate.

      And if the default position is "we've already laid our glorious truth for you to see" -- well, some religions try to tell me the same thing, and they get told to go bugger themselves too.

      It's not my job to validate your viewpoint -- it's your job to state your case. And having had conversations with absolutely drooling, rabid proponents of free software, it usually devolves into apoplectic whinging amounting to "but can't you see my obvious truth that I'm right and you're wrong". In my professional life, that usually ends up saying "OK, then since you can't articulate your point, I will continue to ignore you on this topic".

      Sorry Mr AC -- but you're exactly what I was talking about. You just fall back to an appeal to a higher authority that since the FSF says it, it must be entirely valid and true. Not all of us have been swayed by these arguments.

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      Lost at C:>. Found at C.
    3. Re:Why should we care? by gknoy · · Score: 1

      You're right, he should be able to freshly articulate his points on demand. However, this might not be the right place to do so. A published version of them is likely to be more polished and thorough. "Why should we listen to you" is unlikely to get a response from Stallman, especially when he has explained in in probably as thorough detail as he cares to on his website.

      This is a separate issue from "I'm still not convinced", however.

    4. Re:Why should we care? by spire3661 · · Score: 2

      WE NEED an extremist like RMS. I agree that he is out there, but his extremism provides weight to our side of the scale, even if you and I personally find it distasteful. Take him with a grain of salt and you will realize that he has good ideas, turned up to 11.

      --
      Good-bye
    5. Re:Why should we care? by wallbase · · Score: 1

      Ideas are great. I like a lot of his ideas and certain aspects of his philosophy on software. However as you say, they're rather extremist at times and this causes problems because we live in the real world, not an idealist paradise (not yet, and likely not ever).

      So ideas are great, but if they can't be implemented in practice without there being some significant pushback that prevents achievement of an outcome, then we have a problem. Stallman says a lot, but if for example I were to follow them to the letter, I'd have no career because no-one but Xilinx developers the (proprietary) software to design on their (proprietary) FPGAs, as a very simple example. Would I like a completely free FPGA along with the software to go with it? Sure! Heck these guys are trying to achieve that very thing (an ASIC, but the same general area: http://opencores.org/). But you're not going to be able to do the high power stuff I'm required to do on those things, hence I need to use proprietary material every single day.

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      Dude...
    6. Re:Why should we care? by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      The point of my pointing out his extremism is that we need someone who thinks beyond the practical, otherwise we are stuck with only what is, not what could be.

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      Good-bye
    7. Re:Why should we care? by wallbase · · Score: 1

      Believe me, I understand your point. The problem though is human nature - people tune out extremists because they won't compromise. This might be necessary to push radical ideas across, but it fails the test in actually getting people to listen, particularly if you're effectively telling them that everything you're doing is "wrong" for some arbitrary reason.

      What's the point in having extreme (but useful) ideas if the only way to implement them will cause too much pain for people?

      --
      Dude...
    8. Re:Why should we care? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do people think it's "extreme" to be able to control ALL the software on their own computer, and to call people "unethical" for trying to take that away?

      Likewise, why Don't people think it's "extreme" when a company wants to control the computer they bought, after purchase?

      Why do people think it's silly any hypocrtical to try to use copyright against itself with copyleft? But they don't think it's silly and hypocrtical to say "you may have bought the hardware, but the software, that's on lease and we reserve the right to control, monitor, and revoke what you do with it (even when you read books) as long as you "own" the hardware? OH and P.S. we (Apple) want to compare you to a criminal for installing something different on it?

      Are those really Stallman's "Extreme" rights, or (closer to) your natural rights? (And no, I'm not actually confusing natural rights with anything like Copyright law. In terms of natural rights, copyleft is at best unconventional and at worst, hypocrisy. But I think it's clever.)

  80. Piracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Honorable Stallman. What is your opinion about torrent movies from your point of view?

  81. Freedom vs. Convenience by nysus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There are two kinds of people, those who use proprietary software but are ignorant of the freedoms they give up as a result and those who willfully forego those freedoms in exchange for the convenience. I count myself in the latter camp. In some ways I feel badly about it but in other ways it seems impractical. I don't want to spend large chunks of time battling configuration problems and bugs or miss out on all the wildly cool proprietary software that's available. I simply don't have your kind of monkish-like fortitude to use only free software.

    What do you say to someone like me?

    --

    ---Technology will liberate us if it doesn't enslave us first.

    1. Re:Freedom vs. Convenience by oever · · Score: 1

      In a comment on this topic I asked a similar question.

      An argument that RMS will likely use, is that if you use proprietary software, you are helping to keep the majority of software proprietary, while if you use and advocate Free Software, you will help in improving it, which leads to a better medium-term situation.

      The same argument can be used for situations where a vendor benefits from the network effect to keep people locked into their service. These arguments can be made for using the metric system in the USA or for resisting the Mafia in Sicily; in many cases it is hard to get everyone to behave in a way that leads to optimal situation.

      --
      DNA is the ultimate spaghetti code.
    2. Re:Freedom vs. Convenience by fmoliveira · · Score: 1

      And expect everyone to do their part will never bring the metric system in or the mafia out. It's always powerful people with tons of money that change anything like it. When it appears that it is not so, you just missed someone controlling it from the shadows. Like sucessful revolutions always having help from some foreign country. Caring about politics, using linux and resisting the mafia only brings futile work and/or suffering for the small individual. You only have a right to vote because its cheaper to finance campaigns than financing revolutions or defending from them.

    3. Re:Freedom vs. Convenience by atomicxblue · · Score: 1

      For those of us who write, there just isn't a good FLOSS solution. Personally, I use Scrivener even though it's commercial software, but at least they are taking a step in the right direction and making a Linux version.

  82. Question re: tightly-coupled HW/SW by ARos · · Score: 1

    Dear RMS,

            You've stated quite frequently that you don't own a cell phone, since you are concerned that almost all (or possibly "all") of them contain proprietary firmware, which poses privacy concerns (among other threats to your freedom). Given the ubiquity of these devices and their relevance to modern society, what can free software (and hardware) engineers do to make you use one? The same question also applies, more generally, to future miniaturized computation (e.g. nanobots in the bloodstream) that, like cell phones but even more so, could offer significant utility to its users.

    Thank you for defending our freedom when most of us fall prey to convenience.

    - A.

  83. Atheism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've read various things about you and atheism over the years, but I've always wanted to ask you directly about your beliefs. (For instance, I once read that you lamented the idea of a Biblical Jehovah. Is that correct?) Do you hold to any religious or spiritual principles? If you are an atheist today, can you tell us what that means to you and how that philosophy has influenced you?

    1. Re:Atheism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2EMxYotXVM

  84. RIT Graduation / Blessing Ceremony by Yebyen · · Score: 1

    You came to Rochester Institute of Technology in 2010 when I was graduating and I was really glad to see you, because the other choice for commencement speaker was Bill Clinton (ok so it took me 4 years extra to graduate, I was waiting just for you)

    My question is, was this performance a one-time event, or do you frequently don the black robe and DEC halo, standing in front of groups of students to bless them and their laptops, on a regular basis? Is there a calendar? When are you coming to Rochester again?

    --
    Restating the obvious since nineteen aught five.
  85. Fair Use working against the GPL by JigJag · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There is a provision in the US Copyright Act allowing one to use a small subset of code under fair use. Slashdotters might look at it from the point of view of sampling non-free, closed source into their own code and claim that their sample is so small it must qualify as fair use.

    You wrote the GPL so that proprietary companies couldn't lock free code. My question is related to the reverse approach, where a proprietary company "samples" some free code and claims fair use. While you certainly consider this unethical, what protection could you think of to prevent such events? Would you want to prevent such events?

    JigJag

    --
    "The hallmark of humanity is the ability to move beyond sensory inputs" - Mary Helen Immordino-Yang
    1. Re:Fair Use working against the GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a provision in the US Copyright Act allowing one to use a small subset of code under fair use. Slashdotters might look at it from the point of view of sampling non-free, closed source into their own code and claim that their sample is so small it must qualify as fair use.

      You terribly misunderstand copyright law.

      It's not the size of the code that counts. It's an undefined measure of essence and originality that counts. As the Oracle vs Google lawsuit demonstrated, copying some code for API compatibility is not prohibited by copyright, but a particularly clever algorithm would be.

      Most of fair use is for commentary or parody, or other such social reasons. Copying source code for proprietary code is definitely not social, because the users don't even see it when it gets compiled.

      Also, taking someone else's work into your own without attribution is plagiarism.

  86. Your views on female Computer Scientist by x77696C6C79 · · Score: 1

    I was able to assits to one of your talks while you were in Costa Rica. I was literally floored (in a good) by the amount of ideas discussed and specially everything related to FOSS. Shortly after you made some sexists remarks at GCDS; as a father of a baby girl I was pretty upset about it. And it makes me wonder, what are your views on female Computer Scientists?

  87. Role of the FSF by ssam · · Score: 1

    It seems to me that in the early days of the FSF the main role was writing software. A huge chunk of that code is what makes up modern day free operating systems. A lot of it is class leading software (bash, gcc, emacs, etc). In the past few years it seems that the FSF is far more involved in campaigning than coding. Is this an accurate view of the situation? Is this intentional, and if so why? Should the FSF be trying to create a class leading web browser, for example.

    1. Re:Role of the FSF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Subscribe to the info-gnu mailing list. They still write A LOT of software.

  88. non-GNU Linux? by redelm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What parts of distributions you believe should be called GNU/Linux should be replaced so they are no longer GNU and can be plain Linux, just as you have never insisted *BSD be called GNU/*BSD? The Linux kernel itself is _not_ GNU, and *BSD also uses gcc. Most users make little use of bash or fileutils and many used KDE.

    1. Re:non-GNU Linux? by redelm · · Score: 1

      A busybox Linux can be devoid of GNU-project code. How many GNU pgms make it a GNU-system? One pgm with readline()?

  89. Upcoming challenges? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What do you feel that the largest upcoming challenges for the idea of "let me modify and distribute freely" are?

    I've had plenty of worries cross my mind: software patents are one. Increasing complexity of software: when I was a kid, one person could and often did write popular video games; today, that doesn't happen very often. Software running only on remote servers is another possibility, where end users can never modify or see their software. Another possibility might be eventual decreasing margins in software development; for whatever reason, wealthy countries with lucrative software development industries seem to have extensive open-source communities, but less-lucrative fields like graphic art seems to see less volunteer-based work in the open-source world...and poorer countries seem to me to have smaller amounts of open-source software contributions. It might be that open-source is primarily of direct interest to technical users, and that as a larger and larger array of people use software on a daily basis, technical users will form a smaller proportion of them. It might be that platforms will move towards a closed model; I'd thought that the PC was a step in an inexorable march towards increasingly-open platforms, but Windows 8 and the Apple Store seem to be a shift away from that.

    Are any of your largest concerns among these, or are they different?

  90. How to believe in Free Software and not starve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would want to ask, the Free Software philosophy endorses the selling of free software (distributing free software for a fee), but for software to be free, it cannot prevent users from distributing it themselves. There would be nothing stopping anyone from distributing software for a hefty fee and having only one person pay this fee, only to turn around and distribute it for free into perpetuity. As a result, the original fee must be at least equal to the costs of development. If not done in spare time, this means paying oneself a salary so that you can live: food, clothing, shelter.

    How do you reconcile the needs to not starve and the desire to be and promote freedom? There are many that volunteer to contribute to Free Software because they believe in the philosophy, but it takes a lot of work to get proficient in development and, even in cases of trivial, uncreative, and routine code, it's labor. A popular convention is to distribute for free but offer paid support for configuration and issues, but wouldn't that be a conflict of interest with providing quality software (bug free, easy to use, reliable, robust)?

  91. Devices running only signed software by Myria · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How can we reverse the trend of more and more devices only running code signed by the manufacturer?

    That every new PC, which almost invariably comes with Windows 8, will run only Microsoft operating systems by default is very scary. Sure, you can disable that in current versions, but what about the next version?

    I personally am dreaming of either quantum computing or a major breakthrough in the hidden subgroup problem to destroy RSA, DSA, and ECDSA, but won't hold my breath...

    --
    "Screw Sun, cross-platform will never work. Let's move on and steal the Java language." - Visual J++ Product Manager
  92. Convenience vs. Freedom by SirGarlon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In the marketplace, it seems that consumers generally prefer the convenience of proprietary devices like the iPhone and the Kindle over free alternatives like a GNU/Linux laptop. Freedom does not seem to be winning in the marketplace. Why do you think that is?

    --
    [Sir Garlon] is the marvellest knight that is now living, for he destroyeth many good knights, for he goeth invisible.
    1. Re:Convenience vs. Freedom by DeeEff · · Score: 1

      I would take a shot in the dark and say it's a problem of marketing, not feature set.

    2. Re:Convenience vs. Freedom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      marketing budgets of the big boys. Most ordinary users have NEVER heard of linux for example

  93. Other advocates by SirGarlon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Who, other than yourself and the FSF, do you consider to be effective advocates for software freedom? Please name individuals if you can.

    --
    [Sir Garlon] is the marvellest knight that is now living, for he destroyeth many good knights, for he goeth invisible.
  94. crowd funding free software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Richard, given the success for crowd funding websites like Kickstarter and IndieGoGo, what do you think of the idea of starting a crowd funding website that will /only/ accept (gaming and non-gaming) software projects that will release their work as free software, as an alternative way for software developers to make a living by working on free software?

  95. free as in beer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I heard you speak once, and you emphasized the free as in freedom part of free software, but the fact is that for many of us, it was the software being free as in beer that first exposed us to free as in freedom software. Personally, it took nearly a decade for the free as in freedom part of the message to really take hold, and I don't think it would have had I not had the constant exposure to free software due to the free as in beer aspect.

    What are your opinions on the distribution of software at no cost to the recipient, and how you think that has affected the free software movement you began?

  96. Atheism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've read various things about you and atheism over the years, but I've always wanted to ask you about it directly. (For instance, I once read that you lamented the idea of a Biblical Jehovah. Is that correct?)

    Do you hold to any religious or spiritual principles? Which spiritual leaders do you admire or have learned something from? If you are an atheist today, what does that mean to you and how has atheism influenced your life?

  97. FREE groupies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sure you got a lot of ass back in the 70s and into the early 80s. What about these days? When you give a lecture, do FREE-spirited women (or men!) in the audience give it up for you?

    On a related note, I'm personally into the wife swapping/key party/group sex scene and many of my partners are open minded about free sex and free software I imagine you would be supportive of that as well.

  98. Open Source Licencing agreements? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you think there should be another Licensing agreement which says anyone can use the source code for free, but they may use the code commercially without also supplying their own source code? It makes it e-z mode for hackers when you give out your source code to find exploits they wouldn't have realized normally. There are some things that are beneficial to do for software that are worth having an angle of attack by hackers to achieve.

    For example: World of Warcraft cheats by using client side collision detection, but once it is found out how to spoof your coordinates, a hacker can fly around in the game. If the game was open source, more hackers would have exploited this, and it would create more work for Game Masters to ban the hackers. There are many more examples of times where you don't want your video game open source to counter hackers.

    Security through obscurity is not acceptable as your only defense, but it benefits your other anti-hack security features such as trip wires. If a hacker sees a trip wire in code that flags the user as a hacker, he won't stumble over it in developing one's hacks.

  99. Non-free software in school by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hello Mr. Stallman. In our school in order to pass we have to use non-free software. What to do?

  100. Simply Linux by superstraddle · · Score: 1

    I find it absolutely hilarious that RMAss shuns the term Linux and insists on the term GNU/Linux. The main reason why a Linux OS (read Distro) makes for a powerful and appealing experience is the capabilities of the Linux kernel even if that is hidden from the end user. I wouldn't want a BSD kernel with GNU software ports running on my desktop or server.

    1. Re:Simply Linux by Isaac+Remuant · · Score: 1

      Linux -> Kernel.
      GNU -> Whole frigging system.

      And you wonder why it should have gnu, in it?

      I understand and argument for... well, it's shorter and everyone is calling it linux already but your argument made NO sense. It's like saying someone is hilarious for calling ubuntu, linux.

      --
      "Science can amuse and fascinate us all, but it is engineering that changes the world. " - Asimov.
  101. Freenes of GPL by nortti · · Score: 1

    Can GPL really consisdered free? It has restriction where you can use the code and what you can link it against and is license that has those kinds of restrictions actually free?

  102. Free Internet Access = Free Speech by Dharkfiber · · Score: 1

    Should some form of internet access (besides public terminals) be available to all? How would you fund it?

  103. Emacs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    rewritten in Perl 6. How many weeks would it take?

  104. Health problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your monkish lifestyle...

    Wait until he starts having health problems. And judging by his weight and lifestyle, that shouldn't be too far away. We'll either see a donate link on GNU or the formation GNU Health insurance.

    I'd be real curious how he pays for the inevitable expensive things.

    1. Re:Health problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's banked a million dollars from the MacArthur Foundation, and draws a salary from the FSF, and charges for frequent speaking engagements. I'm sure he has health insurance and enough money to cover most unforeseen expenses.

    2. Re:Health problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not spending it all at once does not equate not having any to being with

  105. Interview on Coast to Coast AM? by Mad-Bassist · · Score: 1

    Greetings!

    I have always wanted to see (or rather "hear") you appear with George Noory or Ian Punnett on C2C. Have you considered it? I think it would be fascinating, and would probably steer millions of people towards free software, even if it was just to try Open/Libre Office to save a few (hundred) bucks. Hell, it may just inspire some to start programming.

    Thanks for your time, and all that you've accomplished.

    --
    "The only legitimate use of a computer is to play games." - Eugene Jarvis
  106. Thank you by backagain · · Score: 1

    As a long time slashdot reader without an account, i created one just to say thank you for everything you done over the years. Keep up the good fight.

  107. Your preferred desktop by Unleashed-TMY · · Score: 0

    Linus recently shared some fairly vocal preferences for his ideal desktop.

    I wonder what your preferred desktop is and why?

    rgds

  108. Android by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The future of GNU/Linux is clearly Android. What do you think about it, and should we say Android or GNU/Android?

  109. Purpose of the Hurd microarchitecture? by archzombie · · Score: 1

    I have noticed that the entire hurd micro-kernel architecture suffers from a lot of drawbacks. After all, as long as it doesn't crash, you don't need to worry about parts crashing. Do you think it might be a good idea to scrap hurd and build a new, linux-like kernel?

  110. pedophilia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Mr. Stallman,

    On 28 June 2003 you wrote:
    "The nominee is quoted as saying that if the choice of a sexual partner were protected by the Constitution, "prostitution, adultery, necrophilia, bestiality, possession of child pornography, and even incest and pedophilia" also would be. He is probably mistaken, legally--but that is unfortunate. All of these acts should be legal as long as no one is coerced. They are illegal only because of prejudice and narrowmindedness."

    On 5 June 2006, you wrote:
    "I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children. The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren't voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing."

    This makes me curious: do you think physical intimacy between minors and adults should be legalized?
    If not, why not. If so, under what conditions? Consent from the child? Also the adult(s)? What would the law look like?

    1. Re:pedophilia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Also the adult(s)?"

      (I meant the parent(s) from the child.)

    2. Re:pedophilia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A base condition would of course be that both parties agree that this is something they want to do. This is already the principle used in law in many places. What it comes down to is at what age do you have the ability to make that decision. If people can drive a car at the age of 16 then maybe they can decide over whether they want to have sex or not. Maybe 18 is a bit too high. Lots of places in Europe have 14-15. The lowest I know of is 13.

  111. Refreshed strategic direction for GNU by James+Youngman · · Score: 1

    The GNU project's initial goal of producing a free Unix-like system has long been met. While of course maintenance and enhancement of the necessary components of GNU continues, what should be the project's strategic goal now?

  112. Free speech not free beer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would you ever consider changing how you refer to Free Software to avoid the confusion of "Freedom" with "costs no money"? I started referring to free software as "Unchained software" in my head a long time ago to keep it clear.

  113. Contributing to Free Software (Without Coding) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Dr. Stallman,

    The GNU Operating System has made the world a better place, and it has undoubtedly enriched the quality of my life. Your philosophy has captured my imagination for over a decade. I fondly remember installing my first GNU/Linux distro back in 1996. Thank you.

    My question: During your talks, you emphasize the importance of sharing in the free software movement. As users become familiar with free software, you explain that they can edit parts they don't like, commit changes, and improve the code over time. It's a wonderful model, but it's somewhat alienating if you don't code. I was a programmer many years ago, but after a series of career changes I'm now a lawyer in my early '30s. I'm too busy and tired from work to code, and I wouldn't even know where to start. I believe in free software and want to help, but I just can't contribute code. What can "normal" people do if they want to help free software (other than donate to the FSF)?

  114. Re:Why are you such a tool? by faustoc4 · · Score: 1

    He's an altruistic person who devotes his time to a cause and community he believes in. On the other hand, what are your achievements besides being a shill that is told what to say?

  115. Do you still program? by Animats · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Do you still write code? Anything interesting lately?

  116. Dear Mr. Stallman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I ask in all sincerity, will you please STFU? Your extremist views and unwillingness to compromise undermines the Open Source movement far more than it helps the Free Software movement. Since you clearly can't stop being "That Guy" could you please try being "That Guy Who Doesn't Talk Anymore"? Thank you very much.

  117. Itinerary by hammarlund · · Score: 1

    I saw you several years ago at the University of Chicago, but missed your two days in Williamstown, MA a few years back. I keep checking to see if you'll be speaking nearby but you always seem to be out of the country. Will you be speaking within a few hundred miles of Chicago in the upcoming year?

  118. Lack of FS in Areas That are Pain Points by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do you think there's a lack of FS for applications that are widely considered pain points? Two pains that immediately come to mind are eBay and MS Outlook. They have few advocates and plenty of detractors, yet no FS alternatives have emerged. While eBay has plenty of walled garden competitors, the FS alternatives to Outlook are partially-featured and can't compete as replacements. Thanks!

  119. Rightfully so. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Point of Interest Reverend Fred McFeely Rogers actually sued a company once. This company no longer exists.

    Aboutthe lawsuit, rightfully so.

    Mr. Rogers Sues to Stop T-shirts Picturing a Gun

    The company no longer exists? really? If that's true, it wasn't because of the lawsuit. They used his image without permission. With things like this, the lawyers send a C&D letter. This company told Fred to stick it or ignored it so that he had no choice but to sue. The store in question had 280 outlets. If Fred's lawsuit took it out, then that huge chain of stores was in financial trouble to begin with.

  120. Beard by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 3, Funny

    Are you married to the beard? It makes you easy to pigeon hole as a cross between Karl Marx and John Brown (read: an intolerant revolutionary).

    No: appearance shouldn't affect the message. Yes: it, in fact, does.

    1. Re:Beard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good thing he isn't black, or a woman. Oh wait, those shouldn't hurt you anymore, right? Then people who attack a good idea based on a beard are almost as stupid as racists and sexists.

      It's a haircut, people. Get a f***ing life. (No, NOT directed at ThatsNotPudding. Directed at stupid people ThatsNotPudding is concerned with RMS failing to impress.) You could have said the same thing to/about the Beatles. But years from now, everyone will be wearing beards (just wait!)

  121. Barriers to Entry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You've said several times that your ultimate goal is the complete adoption of free software. That is, you advocate a world where society voluntarily uses exclusively free software, and proprietary software is edged out.

    What are the top priorities to accomplish this goal, and what areas is the free software movement lacking? As an example, I work in a highly-specialized, professional field. I would love to exclusively use GNU/Linux and free software, but it's customary in my field to exchange documents in MS Word format. However, LibreOffice frequently fails to render documents in the same way as MS Word (the effect is most pronounced on documents with complicated margins and tables). This makes it impossible for our office to use exclusively free software, because we would be unable to coordinate our work with other firms. This is an absolute barrier to entry, as we would not be able to operate without the use of proprietary software. It's a damn shame, because MS Office is the only thing keeping us on Windows.

    That's just one example. What's the single biggest barrier from free software making inroads in mainstream society? Bad drivers? Lack of training?

  122. one question by j00r0m4nc3r · · Score: 2

    kirk or picard?

  123. Hurd! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    We need more people working on hurd, which is outdated and 32 bit only. What are we going to do? What can we do to make people interested in a pure GNU microkernel????

  124. Open Source and Ethics in research? by tsquar3d · · Score: 2

    RMS, I am a PhD student in computing and I have run up against an interesting problem. I consider FOSS to be at the core of my personal philosophy. To me it is not just a pragmatic issue, but an ethical one. Therefore, in my research, I use all FOSS software. Now, the problem arises when trying to justify my use of FOSS to colleagues and supervisors. I have tried to make the case that it is an ethical issue, and have argued the merits of freedom and academia, however, I invariably am told "that's not an academic argument". This is incredibly frustrating and annoying to me as, in academic research, we are constantly being restricted by "research ethics" (e.g. the ethical treatment of subjects, plagiarism, etc.) and I am more than willing to bet that if a researcher objected to a methodology based on "religious principles" they would be excused. But my "open source ethics" dilemma doesn't seem to apply. Any advice? Thanks! tsquar3d

  125. Strategy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you have a strategy to verify there will be new hardware capable of running free software in future as well?

    Lobbied laws such as DMCA and corporate manufacturer greed is on the course of applying GNU/linux while having hardware that's more restricted than ever. I find it disturbing even if I have some raspberries in my inventory.

  126. Will you ever own a cell phone? by bigsexyjoe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Can you explain why you don't own a cell phone? Can you describe a hypothetical cell phone that you would be willing to own? Do you think such a phone will ever be created?

    1. Re:Will you ever own a cell phone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Half of that answer is an easy one. Because smartphones are in general, pieces of crap still. The battery life is terrible, the lockups and/or crashing apps aren't exactly infrequent for the majority of Android users (I'm assuming iOS is off his list) and it's another little computer.. that hasn't had 30+ years of refinement and now in your pocket, relying on a battery to function. Dumbphones make a little more sense when you can get over a day's use out of them for their intended purpose, why he wouldn't have one of these, would be a legitimate question.

  127. Hurd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Mr. Stallman,

    do you see a release date for Hurd 1.0?

  128. General purpose computer label law by fritsd · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Dear mr. Stallman,

    Do you think it would be of benefit to lobby for a law to mandate factories putting warning stickers "Warning! this is not a general purpose computing device!" on all computers that are sold to end users that have been tampered with so as to remove the 4 freedoms?

    I think the law changes much more slowly than technology, therefore it's probably best to have a protective law in place before manufacturers try to "slowly boil the frog" and force first this new UEFI and later maybe even more onerous locked-down computer devices on us, all the while pretending they are similar or equal in value to the consumer as the regular "general purpose computers" we are used to buying today.

    Here in the EU you can only sell chocolate labelled "chocolate" if it fulfils certain quality criteria, e.g. cocoa content, otherwise it should be labelled "cocoa fantasy" (Dutch example: Koetjesreep).

    It would be very nice for all of us, not just the nerds, to be able to go to a computer shop and see quickly whether the device we want to buy is a "computer" (i.e. what we call general purpose computers today) or it has a label "fantasy computer", where the fantasy is that you own and control the device you paid for.

    --
    To be, or not to be: isn't that quite logical, Slashdot Beta?
    1. Re:General purpose computer label law by disi · · Score: 1

      This is definitely the best question so far. Something like 'Smoking kills!' or 'Windows 8 only!' :) No seriously, because it is hard to get computer without pre-installed OS any more and with secure boot it is now possible to lock down 'normal' Intel machines as well.

  129. Welcome the personal attacks? by vlm · · Score: 2

    Do you welcome the personal attacks by folks who disagree with your beliefs? I enjoy seeing them, and imagine a smoke filled room of crooks deciding they can't disagree logically with your position, so they'll make fun of your beard instead. In other words, they have decided you won and its all down to PR damage control and delaying tactics at best. I like this. Well it would be nice if they were more civilized, but I'm content with the winning part anyway.

    --
    "Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
  130. Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Richard, why are you such an intolerant arse?

  131. Non-free license on works of opinion? by csolisr · · Score: 2

    Being a promoter of freedom to share and modify, your opinion that works of opinion and art should *not* be allowed to be modified is particularly interesting, some would say even hypocrite. However, I have little information on your reasons for that position, besides of your opinion that such modifications do not contribute to the benefit of society, as opposed to the modification of educational or utility works, such as software or textbooks. However, the culture of remix and the right to respond point otherwise. Which measures would be required, in your opinion, to ensure that your works of opinion and art were modifiable?

  132. US/Canadian Copyright Law Re-write by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Given that the US and Canadian Copyright laws are two of the biggest pieces of duct taped legislation (There's a hole in the law? Lets tape up legal wording to plug the hole up!') is it realistic to just throw them away and re-write them from the ground up given the advances in copyright laws and protection. Is it even realistic to rewrite them?

  133. Non-free software in work by Mustakari · · Score: 1

    I am currently looking for a job and in interviews I keep asking what operating systems and software I'd be using. Somehow I'm starting to get a feeling I will never get employed if I keep saying I absolutely refuse to use any non-free software, even when I try to tell them why. So, what's you opinion, is it ok to use non-free software for work if I never use it for personal things, never even log into personal webmail using the work computer?

  134. SoC and software freedom by csolisr · · Score: 2

    Recently, the drivers for the Raspberry Pi's graphical drivers were released as free software. However, only the part that interfaces with the chip was released, and several blobs (contained within the chip's firmware) are still to be released. Other competitors, like the Cubieboard, claim to have freer drivers, but I am unsure on how much is truly free and how much is proprietary. What is your position on these devices? Do you consider them free enough to use, or will you wait until more of the code is released as free software?

  135. This is important by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

    Who is best pony?

  136. Makerbot revolution, freedom by daboochmeister · · Score: 2

    What's your perspective on the role of freedom in the Makerbot revolution? What is needed to ensure the appropriate freedoms are safeguarded in the context of that movement? What differences do you see between freedom in that context and in the software context?

    --
    "Ahh! I see you're in that indeterminate Schrodinger state where - oh, uh ... never mind." Dave Bucci
  137. Debate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would you be up for a public debate versus Stephen Wolfram? He represents a lot of what you oppose, and I believe it could be very beneficial for the free software movement to have a moderated debate between two opposing viewpoints.

  138. My Two Questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) Why do you legitimize nutjobs like Alex Jones by going on his show?
    2) What you do have against bathing?

  139. 3D printers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    As the lines between physical goods and ideas are blurred, with the advent of 3D printers and other manufacturing techniques, do you think the Free Software Foundation should extend its mission to include physical goods?

  140. What would you say to the founding fathers? by pr0t0 · · Score: 1

    If you could go back in time and speak to the founding fathers of our country, what advice or admonishments would you offer with regard to intellectual property, copyright, patents, and making information freely available, in order to best head off the problems we've faced in these areas since? Do you feel it is the responsibility of government to legislate our way out of these problems, or are there more natural ways to combat them leveraging basic human nature (survival, greed, etc.)?

    --
    I'm sorry, but your opinion seems to be wrong.
    1. Re:What would you say to the founding fathers? by scared+masked+man · · Score: 0

      I've got five things I'd tell them they ought to put in the constitution right back at the start:

      1. That they should add a clause that requires that powers granted to Congress be used only for the stated purpose. ("To promote the sciences and useful arts", anyone?)
      2. That the second amendment needs clarifying (it is perfectly clear, its meaning is exactly what I think is sensible gun policy)
      3. That the commerce clause is a ridiculous loophole
      4. That the federal government should be explicitly forbidden from paying or withholding money (or other benefits) to other entities on any basis which would create a requirement to act in a way which it cannot force with primary legislation (E.g. drinking age)
      5. That the government should be prohibited from engaging any other person to perform an act which would be unconstitutional for it to do itself

      Fixing the second is effectively impossible since it would basically mean deciding to replace it with a new amendment, and most people would oppose it for either being too tight or too lax. The rest would be impossible to fix now because of the huge amount of current law it would invalidate.

  141. Improving your effectiveness by Bogtha · · Score: 1

    I've noticed that you have often seen a problem on the horizon, been vociferous in warning people about it, and derided as a kook. Then what you are warning about starts happening, and the fact that you tried to warn people about it goes down the memory hole. Then it happens again, and again.

    Without wanting to stir up discussion about the specifics, you're inarguably an unconventional person. Do you think that if you were a bit more conventional, you might be more effective in the early stages of your criticism? Have you identified any other problems stopping your initial warnings from being taken seriously, and if so, what steps are you taking to resolve these problems?

    --
    Bogtha Bogtha Bogtha
  142. Dude, what's with the beard? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I mean, seriously. You come off looking like a kook and it's hard for people to take you seriously. I know we all should focus on the message rather than the messenger but let's face it, we're genetically predisposed to distrust people who look odd or different. You would probably have more success in getting the general public to listen to you if you didn't look so strange. Have you ever considered cleaning yourself up a bit?

  143. Why look like a tramp and behave like an asshole? by McDutchie · · Score: 1

    This is a serious, though exasperated question, born of years of frustration with the leader of ideals I subscribe to:

    Why in all of the universe don't you bother to look basically presentable and behave in a basically likeable way? Do you really not realize that you are the Free Software movement's greatest liability because of your shitty appearance and behaviour? How does this basic fact of humanity manage to evade you for all these years?

  144. Who is winning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's been clear to many of us for a while now that there's a de facto war going on between the free information people (us) and those we have come to call the MAFIAA (in general, all who seek to unfairly capture economic rent by means of patent and copyright legislation). However, the state of the battlefield seems to be a matter of some confusion. Some people have said that the storm of new information-restricting legislation attempts (SOPA, ACTA and whatnot) herald a coming dystopian age of surveillance and censorship. Others have said that this phenomenon shows how desperate the MAFIAA are getting, indicating that we're winning and just need to stick it out long enough for them to run out of money. Both arguments have merit and precedent (and for that matter, the futures they project are not entirely incompatible; the former may happen, followed by the latter). So in your experienced opinion, which side is really winning right now? Do the MAFIAA have us cornered, or vice versa, or is it still way up in the air?

  145. Do we want more clones? by tepples · · Score: 1

    Google for kickstarter GPL and/or just go look for "pissed off penguins", a GPL angry birds clone.

    Are more direct clones what the free software community wants, especially now that EA and companies affiliated with EA are suing other developers left and right for making these clones? See, for example, Tetris v. Xio (EA is Tetris's exclusive licensee on mobile platforms) and EA v. Zynga (over a Sims clone).

  146. Non-Free Software in the Workplace by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mr. Stallman,

    I've been an advocate of free software and the usage of GNU/Linux for several years now, and I'd just like to thank you for all that you've done. You are a true hacker, pioneer, and leader.

    Unfortunately, I am forced to use Windows at work (I'm an IT guy for a software development firm, 98% of our servers and desktops are Windows-based). My question is this: is it ethical to use non-free software for the purpose of keeping a job and steady income?

    Thank you very much,
    Anonymous

  147. 3D PRINTING by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What are your thoughts on 3D printing? Is GPL applicable to things?

  148. Good luck lobbying for that by tepples · · Score: 1

    The organisation that makes the tax code, also puts out the software that will allow an individual to file a return.

    Lobbying for this would be as hard as lobbying against software patents. Incumbent tax software publishers would call it communist and an interference with the free market.

  149. freedom: control versus convenience by oever · · Score: 1

    Here is a slightly philosophical question.

    When using Free Software, a lot of time is spent in trying to find the right software or in writing it. The software store model, where controlled devices offer cheap software, allows the market place for software to work efficiently. Programmers have an incentive to write good software because there is a lot of competition. With a market like that, when you choose to use closed software, you often get functionality faster.

    A simple definition of freedom might be: being able to do what you want to do. If I need to write software to do what I want to do, that could be considered to be less free than when I have the ability to use a closed product that does what I want instantly.

    Talking about freedom in this way, is quite different from the way the Free Software movement looks at it. In Free Software, freedom is linked to more control. In closed software the emphasis is on more convenience and more spare time. Do see the balance between control and convenience as black and white?

    --
    DNA is the ultimate spaghetti code.
    1. Re:freedom: control versus convenience by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      The difference is that you are in a child-like hypothetical that lacks any of the real issues involved in free software.

      You also make a bunch of assumptions that show you don't know anything about free software, why it even exists, much less, what makes it free. For example, you suppose that people who use Free Software don't have any software to choose from, and that they will have to write it yourself. This reads like the things people were saying in the 90s, when there was much less choice. But many of us were already using mostly-free systems, like GNU/Linux distributions, and already had software to cover all our serious work needs. And now in this day and age, there is a glut of software. A software market has a glut of software, too. The only way to make it easier to choose software, in a "market" approach, is to make it a walled garden. And then you don't have freedom; you can do what you want, as long as you want to do what the app they chose for that category does. And you can do that with Free Software, too, by choosing a distro that includes the sort of software you want.

      Don't fall for a re-write of why competition is useful. Free Software is usually also zero cost, but there is just as much competition, in many areas more competition, than commercial software.

    2. Re:freedom: control versus convenience by oever · · Score: 1

      The difference is that you are in a child-like hypothetical that lacks any of the real issues involved in free software.
      On the contrary, I was asking about what type of software provides most freedom: software that I can control completely, but which does not exactly do what I want it to do (yet) or software that I cannot control completely but which I can reasonably assume performs the task that I want it to perform quickly and cheaply.

      You also make a bunch of assumptions that show you don't know anything about free software, why it even exists, much less, what makes it free.
      I program Free Software for a living and I use mostly Free Software and have done so for more than ten years.

      For example, you suppose that people who use Free Software don't have any software to choose from, and that they will have to write it yourself.
      I do not assume this. I do assume that often it is necessary to adapt the Free Software to make it work according to my wishes. If there really is this glut of software and no need to write any more then all computer programmers would be out of a job. Yet, there is still demand for more and better software, both free and un-free.

      In a market for closed software, a developer can anticipate a demand, write software for it and distribute the development costs across many customers. In FOSS, this is very hard. One customer can not achieve some useful improvement to an application for the price that is normally paid for an un-free application. One can group funds and then order software from a developer, but this will yield a very different quality of software and it will create it only after a delay. In the un-free market, an entrepreneur has anticipated my demand, loaned money to implement it and tries to make a profit by selling the software after creating it.

      --
      DNA is the ultimate spaghetti code.
    3. Re:freedom: control versus convenience by peacefool · · Score: 1

      Let this be replied by another question: In the world of proprietary SF, where software not only doesn't do what a user needs, but even does what user doesn't want, and free software, which does only what it is supposed to to, how can You call a choice to be controlled by a manufacturer of locked up, bulky and noneffective software a FREEDOM?!

  150. What do you think of non-free, non-software works? by Shlomi+Fish · · Score: 1

    Dear Dr. Stallman,

    In this Slashdot feature “Stallman is quoted here saying that game engines should be free, but approves of the notion that graphics, music, and stories could all be separate and treated differently (i.e., "Non-Free.")”. However, this feature does not give a citation from you for that. To add to the confusion in a post to the Creative Commons Community mailing list, Rob Myers said:

    RMS's views on culture are coherent and consistent with his views on software. But he's treating game assets as a matter of functionality (software) rather than speech (culture). There is an issue with the latter not being free..

    So I'm a little confused. Do you approve of people using non-free licences for cultural works, including the CC-by-nc, CC-by-nc-sa, CC-by-nd, and CC-by-nc-nd licences? If so, when?

    This is especially important given the fact that in the process for formulating the latest version of the Creative Commons licences (4.0), there has been some requests to deprecate the non-commercial (nc) and/or no-derivatives (nd) options (which I doubt will happen, but is nonetheless some thing some people feel strongly about).

    --
    We have two eyes and ten fingers so we will type five times as much as we read. http://www.shlomifish.org/
  151. Do you still think this is moral? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you still feel that a child should have the right to pick who they have sex with - http://stallman.org/archives/2003-may-aug.html - "The nominee is quoted as saying that if the choice of a sexual partner were protected by the Constitution, "prostitution, adultery, necrophilia, bestiality, possession of child pornography, and even incest and pedophilia" also would be. He is probably mistaken, legally--but that is unfortunate. All of these acts should be legal as long as no one is coerced. They are illegal only because of prejudice and narrowmindedness. " while holding the belief that "Writing non-free software is not an ethically legitimate activity, so if people who do this run into trouble, that's good! All businesses based on non-free software ought to fail, and the sooner the better." http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-licensing&m=89249041326259&w=2 So, to recap, an adult selling closed source software is wrong while an adult having sex with a child isn't. That is rather strange....

  152. Sharing Gnu/Linux motivation with non-tech people by YurB · · Score: 0

    I want to help some of my friends to start using free software (including operating system.) Yet using something other than Windows feels really scary for non-tech people. But since I know it doesn't hurt but rather feels great, and they're my friends, I want to comunicate that to them so they could try that too if they want. Dear RMS, my question is: how would you communicate that free software is great to a 10-year-old girl? (my friends are twice as old, but I want it to be that way.)

  153. Evolving ideas by TheCarp · · Score: 2

    Recently I was telling part of the story of my first Arisia, where I ran into you debating a bookseller (I believe it was the guy who runs Pandemonium but, I am not sure on that) http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3240153&cid=41927547

    Since then I remembered what the conversation was about, and he was trying to really nail you down on how authors and other content producers would get paid in a post-copyright world. As i remember, by the time I came to the show, you guys were seriously in the weeds with details of how a micropayment system could work to allow people to "tip" the producers of content that they like, in real time as they use it.

    That was probably close to a decade ago.... I am curious as to where those debates are going for you now that time and technology have evolved? Is that still a hypothetical rat hole that you go down, or has something else, either implemented or imagined, caught your eye?

    --
    "I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
    1. Re:Evolving ideas by ArneBab · · Score: 1

      well, flattr funding blogs, kickstarter generating millions, the humble indie bundle making millions, startnext moving into the scope of kickstarter as non-profit organization. Sounds quite good - it just took some time to become real.

      --
      Being unpolitical
      means being political
      without realizing it.
  154. Hindsight is 20/20 by sehlers · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What mistakes did you make in the fight for free software? Did anything you support backfire and cause more harm than good?

  155. Question About Anything: Growing a Beard? by Iskender · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hello,

    People state, quite correctly, that you have worked a lot for freedom. But another thing you're famous for is the beard.

    So basically, I look somewhat like a Roman emperor at the moment, and I'm wondering if you can give any tips on how to start looking a bit more respectable. Any general tips for the growth phase? How much work is it when done?

    How many centimetres are required for the sudden and unexpected increase in programming ability?

    1. Re:Question About Anything: Growing a Beard? by atomicxblue · · Score: 1

      Your last sentence makes me wish ./ had a feature to favorite comments.

    2. Re:Question About Anything: Growing a Beard? by pirhana · · Score: 1

      Dude, awesome comment ! In fact one of the best in my last 10 years of slashdot experience !! Last sentence is probably the best single line I have ever read in slashdot.

    3. Re:Question About Anything: Growing a Beard? by dakra137 · · Score: 1
    4. Re:Question About Anything: Growing a Beard? by cthulhu11 · · Score: 1

      You're asking someone who doesn't *bathe* about how to look more respectable???

    5. Re:Question About Anything: Growing a Beard? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're asking someone who doesn't *bathe* about how to look more respectable???

      Yeah...he said look more respectable, not smell more respectable. Are you really a slashdotter, or did you wander over here from reddit on accident and get lost?

  156. The nmap Interpretation of the GPL by Shlomi+Fish · · Score: 2

    The nmap security scanner's licence is the GPL version 2, along with an opening comment where they give their interpretation. It seems that this interpretation is draconic, and among other things requires programs that parse the output of nmap to be licensed under the GPL or a compatible licence as well. This seems to stand against the Free Software Definition, which among other things specifies that one has "The freedom to run the program, for any purpose".

    If we (or the courts) is going to accept nmap's interpretation of the GPL, then we can expect all hell to break lose, because that will mean that the output of such programs such as GCC (the GNU Compiler Collection), GNU awk, GNU sed, and many other GPLed programs of the GNU project or otherwise, must be under a GPL-compatible licence, while in fact, the GNU project approved of using them to build free software and proprietary software that was not.

    Do you approve of the nmap interpretation, or do you think nmap are misusing the GPL as a way to apply the free software figleaf to their work, without complying with the spirit of free software?

    --
    We have two eyes and ten fingers so we will type five times as much as we read. http://www.shlomifish.org/
  157. Re:What do you think of non-free, non-software wor by csolisr · · Score: 1

    Yes, he does approve of non-free licenses when a work is not utilitary. Textbooks and software, in his opinion, are utilitary and allowing their modification benefits society. Works of art and opinion, again in his opinion, should not be modified because that brings no benefit to society and distorts the viewpoint of the author. That is why he uses CC-BY-ND for his own essays instead of a free-as-in-freedom license, a move considered by many free-culturists as hypocrite.

  158. Argentina by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I live in Argentina and I feel extremely embarrassed about the stolen laptop... I just want to say sorry on behalf of everyone, and I really really hope you can come back again some day.

  159. Debian designates GNU documentation non-free by twistedcubic · · Score: 1

    Do you think it is correct for Debian to classify lots of GNU documentation as "non-free"?

  160. About architectures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GNU project has tried to make its own HURD operating system working very long time. Few times HURDs microkernel has been changed but still the development results are "non-existing".
    Many OS developer has promoted that Server-Client architecture is better and easier to develop than monolithic operating system architecture what Linux use, but the results are totally different, where monolithic OS like Linux and FreeBSD are in great working condition and under very active development but server-client architecture operating systems like HURD and Minix are lacking features, resources and functions.

    What if GNU project would have chosen to use monolithic architecture for their own HURD operating system, could it have given a much needed boost for OS usage?

  161. Stallman is a left radical. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stallman is a loon, stop listening to his crap.

  162. Who was president by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the last time you showered?

  163. Get things done - or get software done? by Rastloser · · Score: 1

    I volunteer at a club that runs a technical museum, providing an open laboratory for school children. It offers them the chance to repeat some fundamental physics experiments that are crucial to our world view. We're using mostly Free Software, but there are some niches where we have to rely on non-free stuff. I have noticed that using some proprietary commercial tools, we are able to work far better and easier than when using their free counterparts.

    What would you suggest to do in such a case? Do you think it's better to compromise on freedom and work more efficiently, thus providing a more interesting experience to our visitors, or to divert our (very, very limited) funds and manpower to improving the Free Software tools out there, thus neglecting our core mission but ultimately benefiting a different community?

  164. Opinion regarding Auto-Skip of commercials? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you against business models which offer Advertisements to offset the costs of products? i.e. Amazon Kindle

    What about allowing the users to auto-skip commercials from Television and/or Movies? Should it be legal to remove advertisements? Should it be illegal to remove advertisements from webpages using plug-ins like Ad-Block?

  165. Re:What do you think of non-free, non-software wor by Shlomi+Fish · · Score: 1

    Hi csolisr,

    Thanks for the message. Can you cite all that?

    Regarding using CC-By-ND for essays of opinion - I don't think it is necessary (I'm not a lawyer naturally). For example, I've written an essay titled The Case for Drug Legalisation (and other essays) and published it under CC-by along with the DocBook/XML source, so it can be of maximal use. Even if we take it into account, I don't think someone has the artistic licence to build upon it a completely different essay (say “The Case against Drug Legalisation”) and claim that I have written it. I don't mind people doing something like that, while giving me credit and a link to the original essay, but they still need to indicate that the original essay had a different them, or else it is defamation and misappropriation.

    --
    We have two eyes and ten fingers so we will type five times as much as we read. http://www.shlomifish.org/
  166. Antisemitism by 101percent · · Score: 1

    Have you ever experienced what most would call "anti-semitism"?

  167. Why haven't you written an essay yet about H+? by MrRobahtsu · · Score: 1

    H+ Digital Series

    It's all about biologically implanted software/hardware and malware. I've watched a handful of episodes and it looks like it was made to be an advertisement for Free software (Know what's running in your own head!).

    Or maybe that's too much on the pragmatic side and I should ask Eric S. Raymond.

  168. Copywrite vs GDP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't the real problem with copywrite due to nearly 35% of the GDP being dependent on Intellectual Property laws?

    "IP-intensive industries accounted for about $5.06 trillion in value added, or 34.8% of U.S. gross domestic product (GDP)"
    http://www.uspto.gov/about/ipm/industries_in_focus.jsp

  169. On Battling Software Patents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (Posting as AC because I can't remember my ./ account name or password, can't be bothered to dig them up, and don't have the patience to create a new account...)

    Question to RMS:
    Recently, you suggested to limit the effect of software patents, since we can't eliminate them (http://www.wired.com/opinion/2012/11/richard-stallman-software-patents/). You suggested to limit the effect by legislating that "developing, distributing, or running a program on generally used computing hardware does not constitute patent infringement". It would work. But what if the reasons that we can't eliminate software patents will also mean that we can't make such legislation a reality? Do you have another plan besides this suggestion, and if so, what is it? If you don't, then I as a software developer I would like advice on how to proceed in a world where software patents (or computational idea patents, as they more appropriately called) can threaten my ability to develop, distribute, run, and do software for business and pleasure. What would your advice be?

  170. GNU Hurd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is the status of development for the HURD? I haven't seen anything meaningful in years. Are you still contributing?

  171. Microsoft by Seeteufel · · Score: 1

    When will Microsoft publish the source code of its software under the GNU GPL?

  172. Progress with FOSS Culture by speedplane · · Score: 1

    Are you pleased with the current progress of adoption of FOSS software? There is no question that it is better than it was in the early 1990s, but over the past 5 years, we seem to been sliding back to a more closed-source non-free world. Facebook sets up a huge walled gardens with no visibility to the code inside. Android (probably the most popular linux distribution around) is "open source" but is certainly not free. The SDK is released under a BSD license, with no obligation to make changes public, so no one really knows what's running on their phone above the kernel layer.

    But more fundamentally, it seems that we are sliding back into a crazed money-making internet culture that is less about experimentation, excellent engineering, and sharing, and more about selling out to the first venture capitalist that comes your way.

    --
    Fast Federal Court and I.T.C. updates
  173. Commercial software later released GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is your stance on commercial software that is later released as free software? The software I have in mind are the game engines released by Id Software under the GPL (e.g. the Doom 3 engine). Some other examples are Blender and Qt, but the Id engines are unique among these since their lead architect, John Carmack, seems to have had the intent to release the source from early in their development. Similarly, Notch of Minecraft fame has promised to open source Minecraft once sales die down. Is this an acceptable model for indie games, or is this a trap? I have read in your article on nonfree games, as well as heard in at least one of your talks, that you make an exception for nonfree art assets. In that light, consider Minecraft, whose art assets are a soundtrack and tileset that fits in a 256x256 pixel PNG. What's an indie game developer to do when the art is in the code and not external assets?

  174. Free as in Speech Beer by kthreadd · · Score: 1

    When you drink beer do you only drink free as in speech beer where the recipe is published under a free license? If so, do you have a recommendation of free beverages? If you don't drink beer then please feel free to M-x replace-string RET beer RET something-that-you-drink RET.

  175. should copyright be abolished? by bzipitidoo · · Score: 2

    Should copyright be abolished?

    Some have argued that the GPL needs copyright. They claim that getting rid of copyright would ruin copyleft.

    --
    Intellectual Property is a monopolistic, selfish, and defective concept. It is "tyranny over the mind of man"
    1. Re:should copyright be abolished? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps more directly: How would you protect 4 freedoms in a world without copyright?

  176. Reprap by gringer · · Score: 1

    How much rep could a reprap rap if a reprap could rap rep?

    --
    Ask me about repetitive DNA
  177. Unexpected methods to promote freedom? by 200_success · · Score: 2

    Mr. Stallman, thank you for all the hard work you have done to promote computing freedom. I know that many people consider your views to be excessively dogmatic, but more often than not, your ideas and predictions turn out to be correct. Thank you for steadfastly holding to your principles while most people opt for convenience, as you have made the world a better place.

    It appears to me that Apple, of all companies, has ironically played the biggest role in ending the use of DRM in the music download industry. As I see it, the music companies were so afraid of Apple's rise in market share that they decided to sell everything DRM-free rather than let Apple control the distribution channel with its FairPlay scheme. As a result, it is now the norm that music tracks purchased online are unencrypted and carry at most a watermark.

    I acknowledge that Apple is horribly hostile to computing freedom in so many ways. It's therefore ironic that their dominance with the iTunes Music Store has led to the end of DRM in the music download industry, purely through capitalistic means and without preaching or legislation. My question, then, is this: Could it be possible to promote computing freedom by gaming the market (playing companies off each other) rather than preaching on a soapbox?

    1. Re:Unexpected methods to promote freedom? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was it really Apple who ended DRM? Would they have done so without the protests and evangelizing against DRM? Without protesters in front of Apple Stores? And without the many people telling their friends to just not accept DRM?

      That “preaching” created a situation where Apple could reap monetary gain from doing the right thing. You see how they act when the stakes are diffecent.

      What you can do to make companies act ethically is to create a situation where they can make more money by working ethically than by ripping you off. They ways to do that are

      (1) Laws (breaking them costs money when you get caught),
      (2) Taxes on doing the wrong thing (i.e. pollution),
      (3) Offering your work in ways, which make it easier for people to make money ethically than unethically (that’s what copyleft licensing does)
      (4) Trying to convince people to do (3).
      (5) Trying to convince people to shun products which are created unethically (that’s what you call preaching),
      (6) Only paying for products which were produced ethically.

      RMS does 3,4, 5 and 6, so he’s pretty much into gaming the market - and “preaching” is only one tool in his box. Though what he does is more convincing than preaching: He gives us reasons why unfree software is bad - and the mental tools to resist the preaching from the other side (for example via analyses of speech-tricks, like calling state-granted monopolies “property”).

    2. Re:Unexpected methods to promote freedom? by ArneBab · · Score: 1

      previous comment was by me - forgot to login.

      --
      Being unpolitical
      means being political
      without realizing it.
  178. Quality or ideology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would you attribute Free Software's success more to technological quality or ideology?

  179. Pirate Party by 200_success · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Pirate Parties have recently started to become a considerable political force in northern Europe. Do you support them? Could you suggest a better name for them? What advice would you have for their political strategy?

    1. Re:Pirate Party by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Could you suggest a better name for them?

      GNU/Pirate parties?

  180. State of world in 2040? by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2

    Good or bad?
    Specifically with regard to automated and robotic replacements for human labor (now down to about $15,000 per year for a robot that can work for 3 shifts), do you think it's reasonable to presume a crisis of the capitalist model due to nearly complete automation?

    --
    She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
  181. Re:Copy protection and GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    allots (2783683) and quartersa (2783685) are both astroturfing accounts, posting the minute the story goes live. Usually there's only one of them by story, but they have no shame :)

    Interesting. Do you know who's behind the astroturfing and what their motivation is?

    I'm interested to know what kind of entity would think it has something to gain by submitting a post asking about "how to apply copy protection to open-source code".

  182. My Question of RMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WTF?

  183. Evolution of perception? by gmuslera · · Score: 1

    Or perception of evolution. How much has advanced the perception of the public (the "normal people") about free software vs propietary one in all this years, at least from your own point of view? And, it kept improving or is going back regarding using private internet services or environments controlled by single companies?

  184. Where is the campaign to popularize the mission? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's a question I've been meaning to ask for ages...

    I know historically that FSF hasn't been able to promote popular GNU/Linux distributions because they weren't fully free, but where the hell is the public campaign to advance the idea of computer user freedom as something society should strive for?

    How hard can it be? Find an advertising company, launch a campaign, and get donations to help spread the word. Rise above the infighting and criticism of the small shit, and get to the big picture stuff. I'm sure a well thought out campaign would attract donations from the crowd here. It is about education right?

    So come on RMS. Put your socks on, get of the couch, and do some work for a change: joke.

  185. Why are your critics wrong about you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For all the people that attack you and your beliefs, daily; Why are they wrong about you and your philosophies towards free software?

  186. On the Practicality of Freedom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have had this sickening paranoia lately that a lot of the push for "open source" as somehow "more practical" alternative to free software is largely FUD from proprietary software supporters who are trying to marginalize the efforts of the FSF. When those of us in the free software community see freedom, we see there are many practical benefits to developers and to users. I feel it is not enough to simply write free software and evangelize in the meantime. What can I do to demonstrate the clear, quantifiable value of software freedom to the general public (i.e. non-technical computer users), especially in such a stark political landscape as the one that currently exists in the US?

  187. Too many free software licenses? by adlib24 · · Score: 1

    Hi, I am an engineer not a lawyer. I find the increasing number of "free software" licenses completely overwhelming. There have been times where it has been easier for me to tell the team, "Since we can't tell whether or not this license works for us, let's just write it ourselves." Legal complexities have definitely stifled our innovation. Any thoughts on the implications of rampant growth in YAFSL (yet another free software license)? Thanks.

  188. Subvert it from the inside, like always .. by dgharmon · · Score: 1

    "What does RMS and other Slashdot readers think about Microsoft's recent offerings to come closer to open source model?"

    --
    AccountKiller
  189. A better question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Funny definition of altruism. Furthering your own agenda, even if you do not seek payment, that isn't altruism.

    Also, I would rephrase the question: When did you realize you were a tool?

  190. hey Richard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What the Fuck???

  191. We don't care about reddit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Which is why we're still on /.

    Also, how are you enjoying the ability to post as AC? Are you starting to understand why most of us hate your bullshit community and moronic memes?
    Our moronic memes are way better than yours.

  192. Hair? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How's the hair? Pulled it all out yet? Has it turned bright white yet? Balding? Etc.

  193. How do you handle the frustration? by bornagainpenguin · · Score: 2

    Serious question here. You've been warning people about the need to protect and preserve essential freedoms from being lost for literally decades now to very little avail. Your stories intended to be glimpses into a bad future where we no longer have the four freedoms are becoming more and more prophetic seeming by the day. And yet, there is very little change to prevent the dystopia you warned of from coming to pass.

    How do you handle the frustration, anger, disappointment and personal attacks?

    Also, thank you for seeing the need and establishing the GPL and GNU to fight for our future freedoms!

    --
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  194. is the name important? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Many good GPL softwares have weird names. Ubuntu's Whateveranimal Whateveradjective or GIMP's name come immediately into my mind, but many others exist. Some people consider those as innocent ironical names. Some others remark the fact that this prevents the use of those programs in some context of "serious" and "sensitive" working environments. What is your opinion on this issue?

  195. Re:Copy protection and GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's a shrill? Someone who plugs products at a very annoying register?

  196. The Hurd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where do you see the GNU/Hurd in ten years time?

  197. Relentlsly uncompromising by mattsday · · Score: 1

    One thing I've always admired about you (but found difficult to emulate myself) is your steadfast consistency and refusal to compromise your principals.

    With that said, are there any times when you look back and failed to do this - or perhaps wished you had been less hardline?

    --
    Now there's one hoopy frood who really knows where his towel is!
  198. WHAT is your favorite color? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Additionally I would ask about your quest, but multiple questions aren't allowed.

  199. Replicant Project by PuZZleDucK · · Score: 1

    What is your view on the Replicant Project? Is it on the right track or something you could imagine yourself using? or are there important parts of the puzzle still missing? or another similar project you have more faith in (e.g firefox os)?

    --
    Can a person program a new solution to a problem? Why should anyone be able to stop such a thing? -Richard Stallman
    1. Re:Replicant Project by PuZZleDucK · · Score: 1

      Oh, and what are your feelings on Firefox OS in general? (I can't believe no one has asked).

      --
      Can a person program a new solution to a problem? Why should anyone be able to stop such a thing? -Richard Stallman
  200. Re:What do you think of non-free, non-software wor by csolisr · · Score: 1

    Thanks for the message. Can you cite all that?

    Indeed, I have my sources available:

  201. Ambiguity of "free" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Given the very well known ambiguity of the English word "free", why didn't you choose some other, unambiguous name for "Free Software" in the first place? One that would have immediately indicated that it's about freedom, not price. Were there other names that were considered?

  202. free software and hardware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dear rms,

    as many big corporations (Microsoft, Intel, Google, etc.) are joining Apple in the production of consumer devices, a new threat is coming up in vendor lock and vendor-specific consumer devices, that augment the risk to move away from generalist computing. Do you see a parallel between the struggle for free software and the need to control the hardware? How are they different?

  203. Google? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fill in the blanks:
    d) ________ (Google)

  204. Re:Why look like a tramp and behave like an asshol by Isaac+Remuant · · Score: 1

    Why in all of the universe don't you bother to look basically presentable and behave in a basically likeable way? Do you really not realize that you are the Free Software movement's greatest liability because of your shitty appearance and behaviour? How does this basic fact of humanity manage to evade you for all these years?

    I call bullshit. Every single leader that pushes for a controversial or minority issue will suffer character assassination.

    When it's not personal appearance it will be personality, if he is successful, he will be made out to look like "a pompous prick", if he is good looking he will be a "womanizer" or "dumb model", If he is not from your country he will be "foreign" and "weird", etc.

    --
    "Science can amuse and fascinate us all, but it is engineering that changes the world. " - Asimov.
  205. Illuminati controlling Facebook? by hawkinspeter · · Score: 1

    Do you think that the Illuminati control Facebook?

    --
    You're a temporary arrangement of matter sliding towards oblivion in a cold, uncaring universe
  206. Steam on GNU/Linux by Goodyob · · Score: 1

    Dear Richard Stallman, do you think that the benefits of porting Steam to GNU/Linux, such as getting more people to switch to a free OS, outweigh the negative effects, such as having DRM on GNU/Linux?

  207. Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would ask him how he still considers himself relevant to fight for rights of technology users when his own use of technology is so limited and dated that he's now completely out of touch with the entire topic. And as a continuation of that, I would ask him when does he plan to step down from the FSF so that they can implement a more socially graceful individual to the task.

  208. From what I've seen? Yes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See also: Babygate.

    You know, the email flamefest where congratulating someone on their new baby became a discussion of the evils of reproduction.

    So he's done a lot of great things, but is also a complete dick. I guess that makes him sort of like Steve Jobs.

  209. thanks by tonytraductor · · Score: 1

    I don't even have a question. I just want to say THANKS! Thanks for standing up for FREEDOM! Thanks for being open for questions. Thanks for not compromising your principles.

  210. Still take an instant dislike to anyone in a suit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I met you about a decade ago now when you spoke at my university. I came straight after work and was dressed in a suit. I asked how you respond to people who claim that open source is impractical. You looked me up and down with disgust and dismissively said "who said that. I've never heard that" before moving on to the next question. I lost all respect for you that day. it was a legitimate question by someone who wanted better tools to advocate open source and instead of helping you looked down at me.

  211. How about a "basic income" for more volunteerism? by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 1

    http://www.basicincome.org/bien/aboutbasicincome.html

    With a basic income, much of the argument for copyright fades away (if it ever made sense), because everyone would be able to spend their time creating free software and free content if they so desired. Or people could put their time into other "volunteer" efforts whether with local charities or even just trying to be good parents, good friends, and good neighbors, which could overall make the world a much happier place.

    --
    A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
  212. Progress by Trogre · · Score: 1

    Thank you Richard for your massive contributions to the software world.

    My question is:
    Did you ever get that printer in the AI lab working?

    --
    "Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
  213. GPL enforcement... by jonwil · · Score: 1

    There are an increasing number of manufacturers who ship GPL software on their devices (including the Linux kernel and in some cases GNU software) and then either don't release the source code to the GPL parts or release it weeks/months after the release of the device after much prodding from the community (and then proceed to do the same thing all over again when they release the next firmware update).

    Or they release source code but do not properly follow the requirements for the GPL (e.g. not releasing complete compilable source or not releasing essential configuration files and build scripts that specific exactly which options the on-device binaries were compiled with)

    Some of these companies have claimed that delays are perfectly acceptable and in compliance with the license. (IMO they are certainly not in compliance with the spirit of the license, even if they may technically be in compliance with the letter of the license)

    What do you believe that the free software community and the FSF can (and should) be doing to fight against manufacturers who continue to violate the GPL (and the GPL as applied to GNU/FSF software in particular) in this way?

  214. How's your health? by markjhood2003 · · Score: 1

    I was very worried to read that you fell ill at a conference in Barcelona this past year (http://www.fsf.org/news/richard-stallman-speech-in-barcelona-canceled) and paramedics had to be called. How's it going? Are you doing anything special since then to improve your health and fitness that you'd like to share?

  215. On the subject of "IP" laws in the future... by DeadSuperHero · · Score: 1

    Let's say hypothetically, the situation of IP law gets far worse in the future, and software companies find a way to successfully use "Intellectual Property" and the legal system to shut down Free Software projects. To make it interesting, let's assume these entities start shutting down Free Software projects left and right. Assuming that things get that bad, what would happen to Free Software as a whole, and what could the Free Software ecosystem do in order to protect itself from malicious litigation?

  216. GPL harming open source? by darkfeline · · Score: 1

    What do you feel about claims that the restrictive and "viral" nature of GPL harms open source?

  217. Mayan Calendar (Seriously) by qwerty+shrdlu · · Score: 1

    I'm sure plenty of people here actually want to know this: When the Mayan calendar runs out/flips over/restarts next month, how will this affect the calendar in EMACS?

  218. Current work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I apologize if this question was already asked / answered somewhere else, I did look but couldn't find it, please feel free to ignore it if it has.

    I would like to know what current work you do in software engineering? I know your primary focus is on education, but I'm sure that hasn't stopped you from still writing a lot of code.

    I guess the main thing I'm looking for is how much work do you still put into newer versions of gcc, emacs, and if and how many kernel patches you submit to Linus and his gang?

    Thanks in advance.

  219. The term "Free software". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The word "Free" is a double entendre (possibly triple) in the English language. You have previously explained the difference in terms of "free speech" vs. "free beer". Most people, however, think that you can not sell free software. This misnomer can be avoided by avoiding the term "free", altogether.

    The issue is in the spin. Some consider a free, GPLed work "cancer that affects everything that it touches". They neglect the fact that a GPLed work does not reach out to "infect" other programs. Programmers misappropriate source code when they disregard the wishes of the originating author by denying downstream users the very rights that they were granted - specifically unrestricted access to the source code. In this respect, the source code itself has been granted the right of "liberty" by it's author.

    In other languages "free" translates as "Libre" software, implying that the source code itself enjoys the "freedom" from being closed against the wishes of the author. Would it be easier then, to refer to GPLed work as "Liberated Software"?

  220. False dilemma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After seeing the video of him eating his toe cheese, I feel nauseated just thinking about Stallman. This visceral reaction colors my ability to evaluate his positions on a purely rational level.

    So, I tend to just put him out of mind altogether. Unless it's a really slow day on Slashdot and I'm feeling ill already...

  221. A chronicle of your experiences. by alucardX · · Score: 1

    Richard, I know of all of the essays you've written but have never come across any detailed writings about your experiences in putting together the GNU project and writing different tools. Have you ever thought about describing your experiences and publishing those writings? I'd be very interested in learning more about specific experiences you've had and specific problems you've encountered. Getting a perspective of what you were thinking when you encountered various problems and the thought process you used to solve these problems could be useful to other people when similar problems are encountered. Your general philosophy is well documented but I'm sure there are many technical problems you've been able to solve that many people don't know about or would like to know more about. Thank you for your contributions to Free Software!

  222. AIA by nerdgonewild · · Score: 1

    Does America's new first-to-file patent system hinder small FOSS projects? My thinking is: I have a cool idea for a free software project, but I want to get community involvement, so I write up a prototype and release it under GPL, but a big company sees what I'm working on and patents the idea before I can because they have money and lawyers. Are there funds or something to support obtaining patents or patent licenses for new GPL projects?

  223. Re:Copy protection and GPL by epyT-R · · Score: 1

    Simple. you could write the license that includes access to source code and charge a fee for it. No DRM is required. If you had DRM, it would just get cracked anyway.. It's really pointless to bother with.

  224. Copyleft / BSD Android / iOS by cretog8 · · Score: 1

    I teach a class to non-hacker non-lawyers which includes a little bit on free software / open source / copyleft. I keep wanting to illustrate the difference between a "liberal" license like the BSD license and a copyleft license like GPL by showing what Apple did with BSD to get iOS and what Google did with Linux to get Android. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to disentangle a clean story.

    Is there a clean story? If so, how can I find it? Or is Apple's being as liberal as they want with BSD and Google's pushing the to limits of copyleft (or beyond) with Android making it truly too messy to use as an illustrative case?

  225. GCC + GDB = Ladies? by fuzzybear3965 · · Score: 1

    How many women has your work for the open source community gotten you? At a party, when everyone's all like, "So, you're the stud who wrote GCC in graduate school at MIT", you must walk away with at least a few Maxim centerfold-ers. You feel me?

  226. Unix by Brian+Feldman · · Score: 1

    Where do you see all of the common free Unixes in a decade from now?

    --
    Brian Fundakowski Feldman
  227. Copyright and free speech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What do you think is the relation between copyright and free speech?
    More precisely, do you see copyrights as (informally defined, unverifiable and ever-changing) sets of restrictions on which data (strings of bits) people can exchange with each other and do you view this as a limit on free speech (people can exchange any data)?
    Do you believe this kind of freedom to be essential?

  228. About GNU Hurd by jestinjoy · · Score: 1

    You still believe you can replace Linux with Hurd? Is it better drop Hurd project since Linux is good and works well?

  229. Elections by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

    When is the 2012 presidential election? Who are the two people running? And please, be specific.

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    This is a hacked account, for which the owner can not be held responsible.
  230. GNU Languages: Guile and ELisp by galaxybeing · · Score: 1

    What is the future of Guile? What is the future of elisp? Will the Emacs/elisp environment keep on evolving -- or has its day past?

    1. Re:GNU Languages: Guile and ELisp by yotam · · Score: 1

      Would you consider pushing a more popular glue language for Emacs?
      Have you looked at Pymacs ?

  231. When will HURD be done? by Codifex+Maximus · · Score: 1

    I'd like to give it a go. :D

    --
    Codifex Maximus ~ In search of... a shorter sig.
  232. Bitcoins for Gnus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When will you start accepting Bitcoins when you auction off those adorable little gnus at your events? :)

  233. Repetitive Strain Injury by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've read that you once suffered an injury that prevented you from typing for six odd month. Do you still have this injury and did it go away? I've been suffering for the last eight, and just typing this hurt.

  234. Gnu emacs package manager by doom · · Score: 1

    How do you feel about the new GNU emacs package manager? I understand there was some concern that a package manager could act as an end-run around your goal to keep emacs a pure GPL project.

  235. Freeing my (company) software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mr Stallman,
    I am a programmer for a company that makes its money primarily from hardware sales. We create software to support these hardware sales, however make little from the software itself (in comparison to the hardware). Right now, we offer free support to our customers.

    I'd like to see a change where we make all our software free (preferably GPL) and start charging for support. At present, my management disagrees with this, citing fears of our competition "stealing" the code and modifying it to work with their products. Of course they'll be able to take the code and do this, however since we wrote it to begin with and have superior hardware (IMHO), I don't think it will hurt our business to do so. Plus of course, if it's GPL then any modifications our competitors make that are good, we can then make use of ourselves as well, improving the overall software space in our market.

    I know I don't need to convince YOU of these arguments, however I've got no idea how to go about convincing my management of this. Do you have any lists of arguments I may not have considered that I could use?

  236. Do you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you ever feel like your stance on closed source software has caused you to miss out on experiences you may have otherwise enjoyed?

  237. Computer Stolen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I understand your computer was stolen in Argentina. What have you done about it so far? Did you get a new one?

  238. Bitcoin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Bitcoin experiment shows that free software and largely unrestricted private communication allows for a certain amount of free trade between individuals. Do you feel this gives individuals too much freedom?

  239. GNU Mug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What ever happened to GNU Mug? And why can't I buy one?

  240. Where do you find the energy to carry on? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I begin with a rather long digression:

    At a live lecture with Stallman, I cringed at the completely moronic questions he got during Q&A. It was all from people trying to find "loopholes" in his philosophy by arguing that "if you really only want to use free software, you shouldn't be able to use this, and this, and this, etc. Haha! How do you answer that, mister Perfect!?". Already on the first question Stallman explained that just because it is difficult to draw a line in some situations, this doesn't mean that a line does not exist. He used the speed limit analogy: what is the "perfect" speed limit for a certain road? Is it 40 [speed unit of choice]? 60? 61.7? What the questioners wanted to argue was in practice that since you can't know the exact line, you couldn't justify any line in any case, and that therefore Stallman's stance was inconsistent by default.

    When the third guy in a row wanted to discuss the same thing once again, I would have probably gone "Are you fucking kidding me!?" and walked off the stage. Stallman went with the less harsh "Shame on you!"-response. This Q&A-session made me realize how extremely exhausting it must be to be a gallion figure, a proponent of this magnitude of, well, anything, really. To do this for 30 years: it really must take a certain persona.

    I am grateful that such a person exists, and I am certain that the importance of Stallman's work will be raised in the future. What would a thing like the internet look like today without available free building blocks? What would science be?

    So yeah, if there is a question baked into this: How do you find the energy to keep on answering people who just want to find logical inconsistencies in everything? Are you really tired of this? Does it not affect you?

  241. OS X or Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you like OS X more or Windows more?
    I'd say OS X since it's based on BSD and NeXTSTEP but the hardware is more 'closed up' and 'limited' opposed to windows

    1. Re:OS X or Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mac hardware is just as open as any other hardware.

  242. Increasing negligence of portability by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am a big fan of OpenSource and I try to contribute where ever I can. I use a mixture of operating systems and applications that are based on OpenSource.

    In recent time it seems that people are not taking portability very serious and sometimes intentionally destroying it in favor of not even Linux, but single Linux distributions.

    One such candidate is Fedora. Some developers are (you surely know who I am talking about), are destroying the idea of OpenSource and its portability. They implement things in a totally inappropriate way and so dragging other upward software dependencies into this kind of hell until everything is unportable.

    One such example is Gnome which is not usable anymore on variaous operating systems, but is a simple desktop environment, which should not have any portability issues, but has because some developers are implementing parts of it ontop of hardware instead of using proper abstractions.

    What is your opinion on this?

  243. Dynamic libraries and GPL by jonatha · · Score: 1

    Under what legal theory do you think a court would conclude a program that links to a GPL'd dynamic library is a derived work of that library?

    --
    The SCO lawsuit makes me wish my company were in Utah. We need a new building.
  244. Copyright vs GPL by pantaril · · Score: 1

    If you had to choose between a world with current form of copyright law (where sharing is strongly discouraged but licences like GPL can exploit it) and a world where copyright is abolished completely (sharing is much more common, but GPL is not enforcable and vendor lock-ins can exist), what would your choice be?

    If you could reform copyright any way you want, what changes would you make?

  245. Re:Why look like a tramp and behave like an asshol by pantaril · · Score: 1

    Why look like a tramp and behave like an asshole?

    I've never seen RMS behaving like an asshole. On the other hand, you calling him asshole is pretty assholish. My i ask why are you behaving like asshole?

  246. GNU Travel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Planes, trains and automobiles these days are controlled mainly by proprietary code. I know that you don't own a cell phone because of the non existence of a truly free device, why don't you apply the same philosophy to transport "devices"?

  247. linux vs gnu/linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about: "Why can't you stop beating the GNU/Linux drum and just accept the fact that everybody calls it Linux?"

  248. Bitcoin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is a free software currency called Bitcoin that is actually gaining more and more attraction as time goes on. What are your opinions on the subject? Also, do you think this or some other kind of free software currency is the future?

  249. Open Source Games by whoosy · · Score: 1

    What are your thoughts on open source games? Right now there aren't any good open source games because it simply isn't profitable.

  250. TECO by Capablanca · · Score: 0

    do you miss running the macro in the q-register .m? do you miss the Ivory loader? do you yearn for the days when you could use DDT to drop a -1 in register 1 and then logout by directly executing the LGOUT% jsys?

  251. Re:What do you think of non-free, non-software wor by Shlomi+Fish · · Score: 1

    Hi csolisr,

    Thanks for the links and the reply. I guess Dr. Stallman need not answer this question now.

    --
    We have two eyes and ten fingers so we will type five times as much as we read. http://www.shlomifish.org/
  252. Fight for network neutrality / decentralisation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    According to Eben Moglen, “Free software has won”. The big threat we face today is not proprietary software anymore, but centralisation and control of our own personal information. Do you agree with that? Would you like more people to concentrate on, e.g., the FreedomBox project?

  253. who's freedom? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is Richard M. Stallman able to code a program, which is that free, that not even Apple manages to sell it as a tool that enhances the users personal freedom?

  254. Industrial Society and Its Future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My question to RMS is this:

    When The Singularity takes off and humanity is rendered instantly obsolete as the universe is subsumed by grey goo... will it matter whether the nanobots are running proprietary or Free Software?

  255. "free software philosophy" outside the IT industry by llarsonn · · Score: 1

    Dear mr. Stallman, Thank you very much for all your efforts since so many years to promote the "free software". How could we imagine extending the "free software philosophy" (expression should clearly be adapted) to areas of the economy outside the IT industry? Thank you,

  256. GPL Philosophy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The whole open source thing that GNU started is wonderful! I have been an engineering manager for more than 20 years in new product, new technology development so my background is pretty relevant. I have also used many open source things over the last 20+ years in product design, development and delivery. I delivered my first system to Delta Airlines in 1992 that had GNU stuff in it. The customer had no use for the source code.

    My question is I think the most basic one: why bother with a restrictive convenant at all? The BSD license is not restrictive and I think that code base is very very superb, dynamic and alive. I always go to it first before GNU and here is why: The vast majority of software customers do not want the source code. If a supplier sends me the source code to something I have bought I will switch platforms (this actually happened once when a vendor failed and they said come pick up your million+ lines of C source, we turned the system off, never bothered with the code escrow). So why bother with the restrictions? License trolling? Keep the lawyers busy. It just seems a wasted effort.

    Here is what I think is not only better, but rational, mankind's collective knowledge is open, make GNU just like mathematics, it exists, its free, do what you want with it, no questions asked. The development world will steal it if you do not and only the lawyer's benefit. If I build the world's greatest CAD system and use GNU MP library (just an example, not real) and then deliver the MP source with my product it is a useless waste of time and it will scare and confuse customers.

    What am I missing in the big picture? Open Source is open because developers like to share knowledge just like scientist's going back to Euclid do. It does need the force of law behind it.

    Please Advise.

    Thank you for all you have done open source really is wonderful benefit for society at large even if I prefer BSD over GPL, all roads do lead to Rome.

  257. What type of conditioner do you use? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks.

  258. Copyright in APIs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Previously this year, Josh Gay and John Sullivan of the Free Software Foundation made statements against the concept of copyright protection subsisting in APIs (http://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-statement-on-jurys-partial-verdict-in-oracle-v-google). I am curious as to how this position reconciles with the concept of copyleft and the efficacy of the General Public Licenses.

    To my mind, these statements represent a reversal in FSF policy from when you wrote your essay, "Copyleft: Pragmatic Idealism" (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/pragmatic.html) and when you addressed the Clisp project about complying with the licensing conditions of GNU Readline (http://clisp.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/clisp/clisp/doc/Why-CLISP-is-under-GPL).

    How does the FSF expect to preclude proprietary "front-ends" or "wrappers" from enveloping GPLed code (in the manner attempted by Apple's Objective-C project) if APIs are discounted any copyright protection? How can linking to a GPLed program fall under the purview of copyright if the actual interface through which the linkage occurs is deemed uncopyrightable?

  259. "Free Software Compliant" sticker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have you ever considered a "Free Software Compliant" logo that manufacturers could stick to their computer (parts) when applicable?
    Sometimes, buying hardware that runs GNU/Linux without non-free driver/firmware is a nightmare, especially concerning laptops.

    Your cause is obviously legitimate, so I gave money to the FSF and exorcised/defenestrated a lot of computers and encourage anyone to do the same.

  260. what about project venus? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    do you know project venus?[1] what do you think about it? i think it's like opensource applied to all aspects of life (well a majority anyway)
    [1] http://www.thevenusproject.com/en

  261. change of subject by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who cares to ask him questions about free software. I'm much more interested to hear his views on zoophilia.
    [http://www.stallman.org/archives/2012-sep-dec.html#28_November_2012_%28Germany_to_prohibit_sex_between_humans_and_animals%29]
    So RMS, can human possibly have sex with GNUS ?

  262. Good day by ananthap · · Score: 1

    I am from India. I observer that whenever you visit India (which is about once every year or so), it is followed by Mr. Bill Gates visiting the government of India and giving more aid via his charities. Does this disturb you? Also, mostly you visit the southern Indian state of Kerala which has a strong open source / fs movement. How is it that this state has so much reliancet on free software? Any lessons for other developing regions that are emerging from a non-computerised era? OK

  263. Where do you invest ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where do you put your money ? Do you invest in GPL companies ?

  264. Do you have groupies? by garnetlion · · Score: 1

    Sometimes you hear about celebrities who get marriage proposals or women asking them to sign their boobs or the like - has anything like that happened to you?

  265. How can hacker groups bring next wave of tech? by Xolve · · Score: 1

    It was Microsoft/Apple that popularized PC in homes. Apple brought touch technology to the market and then everyone started making touch OS and UI including free and proprietary software. Most hardware comes first for the proprietary platforms and free software then picks it up e.g. 3G dongles, game controllers, modems etc. How can we see that free software making up a trend which others follow. As an example Firefox browser pioneered the new browser wars for secure, speedy and extensible browsers and now users have a good choice for that.

  266. Free to Proprietary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you think Free Softwares are easing out the work for proprietary ones?

    -rambler@sdf

  267. free software and the disabling of handicap access by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the software world has a tortured relationship with accessibility so it's no surprise to find the same problem in the free software world. I believe that enabling a disabled person to use free software wherever possible to displace nonfree software whenever possible is more important than strict ideological purity. disabled people don't have a lot of choices when it comes to jobs and we are more interested in staying employable. If free software can help that process, that's wonderful but that sometimes requires a hybrid solution.

      A classic example of this is NaturallySpeaking and Libre Office or Microsoft Office. By refusing to support a hybrid solution of NaturallySpeaking and Libre Office, a disabled user is going to use Microsoft Word and remain firmly ensconced in the nonfree world.

    keeping in mind that hybrid solutions enable disabled people to be employed today, why the unwillingness to help someone build such a solution?

  268. What to do with non-free software CDs? by Aleksej · · Score: 1

    What to do with CDs that contain only non-free software (like operating systems, games or drivers)? Some are old, others come with hardware.

  269. Decentralized Web search engines like YaCy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What do you think of decentralized search engines like YaCy? Maybe you have ideas of their potential effects on privacy, information findability, and the natural environment?

  270. Re:What do you think of non-free, non-software wor by Aleksej · · Score: 1

    “On-line education is using a flawed Creative Commons license” -- Richard Stallman — a personal article on a problem with NC non-ND licenses.

  271. Essential freedoms by narblynibbles · · Score: 1

    One of the four essential freedoms, you say, is the freedom to examine and modify source code. You claim that if the user has no way of examining the source code then a potential for abuse is created. However, could not a trusted third party verify that the code is not malign? You are essentially saying that developers should be forced by law to release source code, even if the code is benign.

  272. Non Gnu GPL free software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can free software be existed with other licence that is not Gnu GPL but gives you the same freedoms for making your software free.

    1. Re:Non Gnu GPL free software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It can; you should read gnu.org and fsf.org, e.g. “Various Licenses and Comments about Them”.

  273. LibreOffice dumps the {L}GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It looks like both OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice dumped the LGPL in favor more permissive licenses. In the case of LibreOffice it seems like the reason for adopting the MPLv2 is that the LGPL would have a hard time competing for proprietary support against the Apache License. LibreOffice is advancing just fine, however NeoOffice, the fork that actually moved to full GPL is basically dead. How do you see this situation, is the MPL2 a better alternative to the GPL when you have a permissive competitor?

  274. Saas / Hosting Providers by Cyphase · · Score: 1
    You've said before that you don't like software-as-a-service (SaaS) because it puts the users data in someone else's control.
    1. 1. Are you therefore implying that everyone in the world needs to run their own server in order to have the benefits of SaaS?
    2. 2. If so, do you think they *actually* have to run their own physical server? What about regular hosting providers?
    3. 3. Doesn't GNU provide SaaS for hosting free software projects, i.e. Savannah? I know the software running Savannah is free, but you've said before that even then, you don't know what modifications have been made by the server operator. Does using Savannah fit under the exception of published work not having to be private, e.g. Twitter vs. Facebook as you mentioned in your 2009 talk at the University of Calgary?
    4. 4. Don't you use non-free software every time you go to a website that has custom code running on the server? Is this a compromise you make to receive the information (presumably you wouldn't give them any private information)? Or is this not a compromise at all? Is therefore the real issue of SaaS just the fact that you're giving private information to someone else, irregardless of the software's level of freedom (though of course that would matter as well)?
    5. 5. What do you think about the various infrastructure-as-a-service (IaaS) offerings that are available, specifically things like Amazon's EC2 and Google's Compute Engine (irregardless of your views about other aspects of those companies; I don't want your views on the Amazon Swindle to affect your answer)? Users of these services are running their own software (or at least can; for this question, assume the users are running either free software or private software that they created and have the source for), but at some lower level these services are managed by non-free software. Is it immoral to use such services? What if they were managed by entirely free software? You would still have to send data and code to their computers. How would that change your view, if at all?
    6. 6. What do you think of a service like the Blockchain.info Bitcoin Wallet that encrypts/decrypts your private data in the browser and releases all the client-side code as free software, along with a browser plugin that checks the code provided by the website against the code in the public repository to verify that they are the same? Would such a system be moral to use (irregardless of your views on Bitcoin either way)?
    7. 7. Homomorphic encryption allows computations to be carried out in ciphertext. Although currently unpractical, if/when it does become practical to perform secure, private computations on someone else's computer, how would this affect your views on SaaS/IaaS/hosting providers? Would you have different views depending on the freedom of the software managing the service provider's low level systems?

    I've gone on much longer than I initially intended. Thanks for your time :).

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    by Cyphase ( 907627 )