many people also hate how apple focuses on asthetics over functionality and efficiency. I didn't like ribbon at first and I still hate it now.. it's harder to navigate all those arbitrarily placed options where as the menus provided at least some hierarchy. people don't like change, yes, but the truth is, ribbon is, at best, no better than what came before, and most of the time it's worse, even for casual users. It's stupid to drag users from one ok-ish interface that suffers from a little bit of legacy but still has a relatively consistent layout, to a completely new one that has little rhyme or reason to its organization. I noticed this on all ribbon software, whether I've used its previous incarnation or not. I think ribbon is still a horrible idea for all users, newb or pro.
except that javascript is a horrible choice. there are far better languages that have had bindings with gnome (and kde) since 1999.
oh and of course it needs compiling.. it's 'compiled' every time it's run, slowing down everything even more. just what I want on my desktop, a bunch of slow, memory hungry widget-app-things.
1. what about the conventions that've been around forever for minimize/maximize? they have staying power for a reason. they're simple enough to be intuitive. even if this can be turned back on, it's something that should be there by default. 2. can I do it without typing a buttload of javascript?..or using someone else's? 3. can you answer the question without being a pedantic asshole? 4. referencing a window while switching to another is a common scenario. 5-6. windows 95 (along with the others) for all its faults, got the core interface right. being able to see the output of more than one window at a time during a focus switch was considered a good thing. it still is. the single tasking tablet/phone trendhopping idiots behind gnome 3 don't get this I guess. there is such a thing as drawing too many borders around a picture. 7...missing the point entirely. 8. so your answers were apparently only a thinly veiled troll or astroturf. oh well.
I'm a $SELF_PROFESSED_GENERIC_COMPUTAR_HAXOR_KING who hates gnome 3. It's all javascript, which adds yet another layer of complexity on top of the already expanding linux desktop stack without any clear advantage to simple configuration files managed by a gui. if i need something scripted, I'll write a script in bash/perl/python/whatever. any of these are superior to javascript and have had bindings for all major widget and desktop environments since the late 90s. integration with the latest $MANAGED_RUNTIME_LANG of the day does not automatically make software relevant. it should be useful and flexible, but out of the box, it should provide a relatively traditional interface for the user to get his bearings (or stagnate if he so chooses). this interface should provide basic amenities that its predecessor had (a sensible file manager, task manager, hot key config, window manager, etc). gnome 3 has serious shortcomings here. I won't even get into unity as that doesn't even belong on a desktop.
Basically, I don't understand why everyone is so wow'd by change for changes sake + race-to-the-bottom reductionism. It's like I'm looking at a forum with a bunch of 16yo college bound liberals who know nothing of politics other than what the public schools taught them; democrat good, republican bad. If I like it, I'll use it. I'll recommend it. If I hate it, I won't, and I'll criticize it. Just because you can't comprehend why people can and do still judge things objectively in this brave new world of infinite tolerance and acceptance, doesn't mean the poll wasn't rigged and/or pwnt by robotrolls run by bandwagoneers. newness does not equate to better. perhaps the rest of the people that poll was trying to reach were too busy getting work done with their more sensible guis. grow up kid.
actually I consider obsessions with japanese culture to be an extension of inferiority complex that comes from low self esteem. A slashdot without so much of that is a benefit. the people i've known like that were truly pathetic as they'd put japan on a pedestal and try their damnedest to act, think, and look like stereotypical japanese. of course they weren't fooling anyone and just ended up looking like total idiots. I'd also think that a genuine japanese would find this behavior somewhat offensive.
at the point it said 'we as muslims believe', your teacher stopped teaching science and started teaching religion. it's also a fallacious appeal to authority, antiquity, and popularity. authority/antiquity in this case includes your established culture and its relative age, and popularity in this case refers to that 'we as muslims' part. you're welcome to reject darwin if you like, but you'll need to offer a better theory than his if you want to displace it. baseless claims on emotional beliefs dont' cut it. if you have emotional problems with the material in your chosen major, either change majors or get over it. walking out is a lame attempt at making a political statement, which if won, would devalue education even more than it already has been.
no such thing as a rational believer. however people do compartmentalize because they are 1. attached to their belief strongly or 2. just haven't gotten around to realizing the conflict between them and realityland. a scientist really needs to avoid this if he wishes to become a good scientist. he must sort out which 'beliefs' are correct, which are not, and which are irrelevant to the object of study...and he must be humble when he is wrong. religious people, for all their hoopla about humbleness, don't do a very good job when it comes to their belief itself. in fact many of them nowadays go out of their way to do crazy things like register for a course they know they'll have a conflict with, then walk out in arrogance when their beliefs get challenged.
yes please. if you want to live like you did back home, go back home. the fact you left speaks volumes about the quality of life the culture there has created. otherwise, give up the belief-arrogance that keeps your old home in the dark ages, learn to speak at least passable english, and most importantly, accept the rule of law present there. if you don't like it, get out. that's most likely what your country of birth would say to me if I complained as you do here, and I would be lucky for such a reprieve! most likely I'd be imprisoned for speaking out against the state religion.
web 2.0 can suck it until these snake oil 'cloud' asps and coders can ensure access and legal protections for users that prevent abuse. computers are great because they're empowering, but if the new model is to make me dependent on a hierarchy of trolls guarding various bridges, I'll abandon it as quickly as I took to it. if i'm to depend on a tool for livelihood, then I want it stored and executed locally.
'socialization' isn't the only thing to vie for in life. it's a component, not the be-all-end-all. also, many of these kids would be ridiculed if they tried out for athletic teams.
don't worry, if used for gender bigotry, the institutionalized misandry of today will ensure that the technique will be used to abort boys first...and it won't get mentioned by the media and no one will care.
sorry, they have 'community activity' programs and political campaigns like the oppression olympics to fund.. education is at the bottom of the priority list these days. it's like how 'syfy' no longer shows scifi, and history channel no longer does much on history...or how mtv rarely plays music videos.
while this attitude moves us towards easier to use devices, the s/n ratio of current and future users drops, causing a race to the bottom rather than an efficient use of potential capability. as we've seen this capability has been squandered on useless software abstractions and pretty guis. this creates a culture of dependence which is only good for business owners at the top who get to send out their techs to deal with said stupid. both the users and the techs are miserable because they're paying to fix/fixing the same shitty problems over and over. increased user knowledge is a benefit to society because it mitigates this.
in the early days of driving, there were no drivers licenses because there weren't many cars, and those that drove knew how their machines operated as they were the builders. the licensing today just prevents the bottom from falling out on the stupidity (barely) resulting in tons of useless extra law designed to mitigate the ignorance and apathy. today's cars are also purposely built to keep the owner from servicing his own vehicle so that he is dependent on the dealer who conveniently rips him off.
I don't want this to happen with computing, at least not as badly as it did with cars, otherwise the machine becomes the master (through its vendor/service provider), and I the slave. if having to build one's own machine (or, if not that, any combination of relevant litmus testing) means that fewer people can sign on to the moronic 'web 2.0', then click on every banner that says 'WINNAR!', infecting their machines, then that's a net win for the average intellect of the online community. these morons can go back to television as it's perfect for their feed-it-to-me-through-a-needle mentalities.
this particular tax is new. government has a predilection for using 'on the internet' as an excuse to write separate law, usually to get around due process that protects citizens from governmental or corporate abuse. the concept of sales tax is broken and this issue is a great demonstration of why.
the basic issue is that the trend is to remove existing power and flexibility from workstations rather than simply offer the 'simple mode' as an alternative for small devices. this degrades the capabilities of workstations down to what is found on tablets and the like. some of us need that flexibility which is why we have the systems we have. while I can see why profit driven vendors might like to push us all to cloud dependent computing paradigms, this trend in OSS land surprises me. I thought the OSS crowd prefers more power at the cost of a bit of tweaking.
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many people also hate how apple focuses on asthetics over functionality and efficiency. I didn't like ribbon at first and I still hate it now.. it's harder to navigate all those arbitrarily placed options where as the menus provided at least some hierarchy. people don't like change, yes, but the truth is, ribbon is, at best, no better than what came before, and most of the time it's worse, even for casual users. It's stupid to drag users from one ok-ish interface that suffers from a little bit of legacy but still has a relatively consistent layout, to a completely new one that has little rhyme or reason to its organization. I noticed this on all ribbon software, whether I've used its previous incarnation or not. I think ribbon is still a horrible idea for all users, newb or pro.
except that javascript is a horrible choice. there are far better languages that have had bindings with gnome (and kde) since 1999.
oh and of course it needs compiling.. it's 'compiled' every time it's run, slowing down everything even more. just what I want on my desktop, a bunch of slow, memory hungry widget-app-things.
1. what about the conventions that've been around forever for minimize/maximize? they have staying power for a reason. they're simple enough to be intuitive. even if this can be turned back on, it's something that should be there by default. ..or using someone else's? ..missing the point entirely.
2. can I do it without typing a buttload of javascript?
3. can you answer the question without being a pedantic asshole?
4. referencing a window while switching to another is a common scenario.
5-6. windows 95 (along with the others) for all its faults, got the core interface right. being able to see the output of more than one window at a time during a focus switch was considered a good thing. it still is. the single tasking tablet/phone trendhopping idiots behind gnome 3 don't get this I guess. there is such a thing as drawing too many borders around a picture.
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8. so your answers were apparently only a thinly veiled troll or astroturf. oh well.
I'm a $SELF_PROFESSED_GENERIC_COMPUTAR_HAXOR_KING who hates gnome 3. It's all javascript, which adds yet another layer of complexity on top of the already expanding linux desktop stack without any clear advantage to simple configuration files managed by a gui. if i need something scripted, I'll write a script in bash/perl/python/whatever. any of these are superior to javascript and have had bindings for all major widget and desktop environments since the late 90s. integration with the latest $MANAGED_RUNTIME_LANG of the day does not automatically make software relevant. it should be useful and flexible, but out of the box, it should provide a relatively traditional interface for the user to get his bearings (or stagnate if he so chooses). this interface should provide basic amenities that its predecessor had (a sensible file manager, task manager, hot key config, window manager, etc). gnome 3 has serious shortcomings here. I won't even get into unity as that doesn't even belong on a desktop.
Basically, I don't understand why everyone is so wow'd by change for changes sake + race-to-the-bottom reductionism. It's like I'm looking at a forum with a bunch of 16yo college bound liberals who know nothing of politics other than what the public schools taught them; democrat good, republican bad. If I like it, I'll use it. I'll recommend it. If I hate it, I won't, and I'll criticize it. Just because you can't comprehend why people can and do still judge things objectively in this brave new world of infinite tolerance and acceptance, doesn't mean the poll wasn't rigged and/or pwnt by robotrolls run by bandwagoneers. newness does not equate to better. perhaps the rest of the people that poll was trying to reach were too busy getting work done with their more sensible guis. grow up kid.
actually I consider obsessions with japanese culture to be an extension of inferiority complex that comes from low self esteem. A slashdot without so much of that is a benefit. the people i've known like that were truly pathetic as they'd put japan on a pedestal and try their damnedest to act, think, and look like stereotypical japanese. of course they weren't fooling anyone and just ended up looking like total idiots. I'd also think that a genuine japanese would find this behavior somewhat offensive.
then that flaw is with the person and not science.
fine prove it..or at least offer some evidence. you've made quite a claim.
at the point it said 'we as muslims believe', your teacher stopped teaching science and started teaching religion. it's also a fallacious appeal to authority, antiquity, and popularity. authority/antiquity in this case includes your established culture and its relative age, and popularity in this case refers to that 'we as muslims' part. you're welcome to reject darwin if you like, but you'll need to offer a better theory than his if you want to displace it. baseless claims on emotional beliefs dont' cut it. if you have emotional problems with the material in your chosen major, either change majors or get over it. walking out is a lame attempt at making a political statement, which if won, would devalue education even more than it already has been.
no such thing as a rational believer. however people do compartmentalize because they are 1. attached to their belief strongly or 2. just haven't gotten around to realizing the conflict between them and realityland. a scientist really needs to avoid this if he wishes to become a good scientist. he must sort out which 'beliefs' are correct, which are not, and which are irrelevant to the object of study. ..and he must be humble when he is wrong. religious people, for all their hoopla about humbleness, don't do a very good job when it comes to their belief itself. in fact many of them nowadays go out of their way to do crazy things like register for a course they know they'll have a conflict with, then walk out in arrogance when their beliefs get challenged.
yes please. if you want to live like you did back home, go back home. the fact you left speaks volumes about the quality of life the culture there has created. otherwise, give up the belief-arrogance that keeps your old home in the dark ages, learn to speak at least passable english, and most importantly, accept the rule of law present there. if you don't like it, get out. that's most likely what your country of birth would say to me if I complained as you do here, and I would be lucky for such a reprieve! most likely I'd be imprisoned for speaking out against the state religion.
web 2.0 can suck it until these snake oil 'cloud' asps and coders can ensure access and legal protections for users that prevent abuse. computers are great because they're empowering, but if the new model is to make me dependent on a hierarchy of trolls guarding various bridges, I'll abandon it as quickly as I took to it. if i'm to depend on a tool for livelihood, then I want it stored and executed locally.
'socialization' isn't the only thing to vie for in life. it's a component, not the be-all-end-all. also, many of these kids would be ridiculed if they tried out for athletic teams.
maybe the game sucks and no one bothered.
language evolves alright.. right into doublespeak if you're not careful.
he meant that windows 2003 was based on xp.. xp = 5.1 and 2003 = 5.2.
don't worry, if used for gender bigotry, the institutionalized misandry of today will ensure that the technique will be used to abort boys first...and it won't get mentioned by the media and no one will care.
wrong.
sorry, they have 'community activity' programs and political campaigns like the oppression olympics to fund.. education is at the bottom of the priority list these days. it's like how 'syfy' no longer shows scifi, and history channel no longer does much on history...or how mtv rarely plays music videos.
you sure it's 3in? did you use your iphone based 'acoustic ruler' to measure?
a cult member attacking group think... wow.
the 90s? profoundly racist? compared with? if anything the oppression olympics had a lot of applicants during that decade.
while this attitude moves us towards easier to use devices, the s/n ratio of current and future users drops, causing a race to the bottom rather than an efficient use of potential capability. as we've seen this capability has been squandered on useless software abstractions and pretty guis. this creates a culture of dependence which is only good for business owners at the top who get to send out their techs to deal with said stupid. both the users and the techs are miserable because they're paying to fix/fixing the same shitty problems over and over. increased user knowledge is a benefit to society because it mitigates this.
in the early days of driving, there were no drivers licenses because there weren't many cars, and those that drove knew how their machines operated as they were the builders. the licensing today just prevents the bottom from falling out on the stupidity (barely) resulting in tons of useless extra law designed to mitigate the ignorance and apathy. today's cars are also purposely built to keep the owner from servicing his own vehicle so that he is dependent on the dealer who conveniently rips him off.
I don't want this to happen with computing, at least not as badly as it did with cars, otherwise the machine becomes the master (through its vendor/service provider), and I the slave. if having to build one's own machine (or, if not that, any combination of relevant litmus testing) means that fewer people can sign on to the moronic 'web 2.0', then click on every banner that says 'WINNAR!', infecting their machines, then that's a net win for the average intellect of the online community. these morons can go back to television as it's perfect for their feed-it-to-me-through-a-needle mentalities.
this particular tax is new. government has a predilection for using 'on the internet' as an excuse to write separate law, usually to get around due process that protects citizens from governmental or corporate abuse. the concept of sales tax is broken and this issue is a great demonstration of why.
sorry, here's the rest..
the basic issue is that the trend is to remove existing power and flexibility from workstations rather than simply offer the 'simple mode' as an alternative for small devices. this degrades the capabilities of workstations down to what is found on tablets and the like. some of us need that flexibility which is why we have the systems we have. while I can see why profit driven vendors might like to push us all to cloud dependent computing paradigms, this trend in OSS land surprises me. I thought the OSS crowd prefers more power at the cost of a bit of tweaking.
because they already have theirs in single use minimalist devices like pads and cellphones.