I don't think the RHN server open source, In fact I'm pretty sure local servers were one of the features offered in the paid enterprise subscriptions. But up2date now supports yum and apt, to the point that the default configuration uses yum and not RHN. So you can set up a yum or apt repo and still use up2date/rhn-applet with your own private repo.
Are you sure that Fox and Lucasfilm won't be able to argue in court that distributing a video file under the name "Star Wars Kid," with the content you describe, constitutes infringement of Lucasfilm's rights in the name "STAR WARS"?
How about the presence of plant and/or animal life does not necessarily indicate that the environment has recovered. That was, after all, what the parent to my post seemed to be saying and what I was trying to counter.
To say that a plant accident can't happen again, or can't have the same impact, is naive at best. Not everyone plays by the rules, safety measures can fail, etc..
How are you sure that distributing the Star Wars Kid Movie doesn't infringe any of Lucasfilm's copyrights or trademarks?
There were no audio/video clips from any of his movies incorporated in it (the original, and I'm only referring to the original version). Nor was there any spoken referrence to any of his movies. The kid was not dressed up like any of the characters from any of Lucas's movies. In fact, if I had seen the video before it was widely distributed under the name "Star Wars Kid," I would probably have just thought it was some kid being humorously spastic with a broom handle (or whatever he was holding).
who conveniently neglect the fact that plants and animals STILL LIVE THERE!!
So what? Bikini atoll (where the U.S. did all that live testing way back in the 40s/50s) is still uninhabitable, and that happened decades before Chernobyl. Plants grow there too, but the ground is still contaminated, as would be any crops. The air there is clean though.
In my opinion, anything that might kill thousands of people while handled by a drunk should be illegal.
Yeah, I mean who really needs to travel by plane anyway? While we're at it, lets do away with recreational cruise ships, all military aircraft, naval vessels, missle silos, etc.
P.S. - if you want to debate the need for military equipment please start a new thread, they were just examples of things "that might kill thousands of people while handled by a drunk."
Did anyone else picture Linus sitting in conference room with all the FSF hitmen? Saying "Bring me that driver, I shall eat his liver with some farva beans and nice chianti."
I was under the impression that if your phone is on a digital network then communication needs to at least be decoded, as it isn't a plain audio signal like a cordless POTS phone.
yeah, I have a WPC-11, and I've been very happy with it. I finally got encryption (albeit 64bit) working with the orinoco_cs driver, which means I don't have to wait for this guy to catch up with new kernel releases. I'm pretty sure that Linksys switched to Broadcom. That's actually part of the big stink over the source code for the WRT54G router they sell. It runs linux, and uses a Broadcom chipset. So we know a driver exists.
I didn't mean to imply I thought it work, just that it was an interesting way to re-approach the original claims. Opening the door to being sued by BSD is something I hadn't thought of though. In a way, that would almost be worth them being able to reverse the settlement.
I found this about 20 minutes ago on news.google.com. My favorite Darl quote: "First it's not our customers. I would say we're suing end users. There are only two industries who use the term 'users,' computers and drugs. Not sure if there's a connection there". So now we're all communist junkies.
Going after the BSD settlement, they hope to reverse it. If they can do that, then some of the laughable examples of infringing code may suddenly become legally enforcable. What it tells the rest of the world is that they are running out of claims, and need to work on finding something to back themselves up. I think it means they've realised that the racketeering isn't working. Noboby is going to buy them, marque coporations aren't going to buy their licenses. So they need to either implode or find a new angle.
cards besed on the prism chipset and the orinnoco/hermes chipset(s) work very well. Cisco aironet cards have worked pretty well for me, too. I think the big stinkers are the broadcom based ones.
I still see plenty of CD's that say to put the CD in the drive, open a prompt, and type d:\setup.exe. I don't see how that is any different that saying open a command shell, and type apt-get foo, or up2date foo, or yum install foo, or emerge foo. They can handle this. And even if they think they can't the GUI tools are there. Debian has synaptic, Red Hat has redhat-config-packages and synaptic, gentoo has kportage, etc. In my opinion, the difference is that on Linux, you don't really tend to go down to the store and buy a CD. You download it off the net and go. My wife (who types with a grand total of two fingers) has absolutely no trouble downloading an RPM, clicking on it, and finding me to enter the root password the system asked her for. How is that less than what you say is missing?
I wonder what it would take to get an installation program like RH's or SuSE's along with a really simple package management system like apt or (IMO even better) portage
Well, you could ask the folks at freshrpms.net or fedora.us, who have had APT repositories of RPMs for Red Hat Linux for years. But to be more correct, up2date from Red Hat has had great dependency tracking for the last several major releases. the distinction between it and apt has been that it never supported a user-configurable list of sources. Now Red Hat has Fedora Core, and up2date supports APT repositories. Red Hat's add/remove software application (redhat-config-packages) really just need to be extended to query the sources the up2date uses, and you'll have GUI APT goodness with native RH tools. Or you can just grab apt and synaptci from any number of third party maintainers like freshrpms.net (fedora.us doesn't really count as third party anymore, since RH partnered with them to make Fedora Core).
The command line is a big no-no for the general public. If you tell an ordinary user they got to go to the command line for anything... even to type the word "install", they're just gonna laugh at you.
Only because people like you have conditioned them to. People got along just fine with command lines in the DOS/Win 3.1 days. Sure they prefer a GUI, but they're only intimidated by the command line until they try it once. They probably don't even need a command shell, Windows and GNOME both offer a 'Run' menu item which gives them a pretty window to type a command into, and the system runs it. I imagine KDE has such a construct too.
I personally think LindowsOS (Linux) has got it right. I don't think their product is solid enough that I would use it, but they got the right idea regarding installation. You click on a link on their website and wham, the app is installed and ready to run. You can't get any simpler than that.
In GNOME, a disitribution can have a file-type preconfigured for the native pacakge format and launch the GUI package manager. In Red Hat you click on an RPM and it launches redhat-config-packages. In it's current version it doesn't find dependencies not packaged by Red Hat. Which is where Debian's synaptic (also available for Red Hat) wins out, as it uses a user configurable list of sources.
Mandrakes URPMI (with X rpmdrake) front is also a close contender. The only problem with that is there is no auto-configuration of the software source locations. You manually have to choose which FTP sites your files will come from. Their software catalog at MandrakeClub is decent, but could be organized in a way in which apps are easier to find.
This is where Debian has had the advantage for ages. The best combination I have found is apt+synaptic. Apt has been ported to RPM, so all you need is someone to build it and synaptic on mandrake, and away you go. From the RedHat crowd, up2date proved an awesome tool for Red Hat maintained packages, but didn't include third party. Owt of that crowd has come yum, which is a decent contender to apt, in my opinion, but it lacks a good gui like synaptic. RH has gone so far as to support apt and yum in the up2date tool, which rocks.
So I guess to wrap it up, all the facilities you want are available, just apparently not preconfigured on enough distributions yet.
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I don't think the RHN server open source, In fact I'm pretty sure local servers were one of the features offered in the paid enterprise subscriptions. But up2date now supports yum and apt, to the point that the default configuration uses yum and not RHN. So you can set up a yum or apt repo and still use up2date/rhn-applet with your own private repo.
ah, I always called them mini-cars. I like the Twain quote.
touche.
How about the presence of plant and/or animal life does not necessarily indicate that the environment has recovered. That was, after all, what the parent to my post seemed to be saying and what I was trying to counter.
To say that a plant accident can't happen again, or can't have the same impact, is naive at best. Not everyone plays by the rules, safety measures can fail, etc..
I don't get it. I get [Red] Fez, but what do mini-carts have to do with those Arabic/Mediterranean hats?
There were no audio/video clips from any of his movies incorporated in it (the original, and I'm only referring to the original version). Nor was there any spoken referrence to any of his movies. The kid was not dressed up like any of the characters from any of Lucas's movies. In fact, if I had seen the video before it was widely distributed under the name "Star Wars Kid," I would probably have just thought it was some kid being humorously spastic with a broom handle (or whatever he was holding).
No, the primary function of P2P apps is molesting children! Weren't you spoon-fed with the rest of us?
So what? Bikini atoll (where the U.S. did all that live testing way back in the 40s/50s) is still uninhabitable, and that happened decades before Chernobyl. Plants grow there too, but the ground is still contaminated, as would be any crops. The air there is clean though.
Yeah, I mean who really needs to travel by plane anyway? While we're at it, lets do away with recreational cruise ships, all military aircraft, naval vessels, missle silos, etc.
P.S. - if you want to debate the need for military equipment please start a new thread, they were just examples of things "that might kill thousands of people while handled by a drunk."
it's fairly easy to bury redirections in long links so that even reading the status bar doesn't protect you.
Did anyone else picture Linus sitting in conference room with all the FSF hitmen? Saying "Bring me that driver, I shall eat his liver with some farva beans and nice chianti."
I was under the impression that if your phone is on a digital network then communication needs to at least be decoded, as it isn't a plain audio signal like a cordless POTS phone.
you're familiar with the use of the term cum to refer to ejaculate, or the act of ejaculating? go from there.
yeah, I have a WPC-11, and I've been very happy with it. I finally got encryption (albeit 64bit) working with the orinoco_cs driver, which means I don't have to wait for this guy to catch up with new kernel releases. I'm pretty sure that Linksys switched to Broadcom. That's actually part of the big stink over the source code for the WRT54G router they sell. It runs linux, and uses a Broadcom chipset. So we know a driver exists.
I didn't mean to imply I thought it work, just that it was an interesting way to re-approach the original claims. Opening the door to being sued by BSD is something I hadn't thought of though. In a way, that would almost be worth them being able to reverse the settlement.
thanks for pointing that out, but in effort to avoind pr0n references, I'll change it to moving to fast.
I found this about 20 minutes ago on news.google.com. My favorite Darl quote: "First it's not our customers. I would say we're suing end users. There are only two industries who use the term 'users,' computers and drugs. Not sure if there's a connection there". So now we're all communist junkies.
Going after the BSD settlement, they hope to reverse it. If they can do that, then some of the laughable examples of infringing code may suddenly become legally enforcable. What it tells the rest of the world is that they are running out of claims, and need to work on finding something to back themselves up. I think it means they've realised that the racketeering isn't working. Noboby is going to buy them, marque coporations aren't going to buy their licenses. So they need to either implode or find a new angle.
cards besed on the prism chipset and the orinnoco/hermes chipset(s) work very well. Cisco aironet cards have worked pretty well for me, too. I think the big stinkers are the broadcom based ones.
when she asks for it, she just never remembers it.
I still see plenty of CD's that say to put the CD in the drive, open a prompt, and type d:\setup.exe. I don't see how that is any different that saying open a command shell, and type apt-get foo, or up2date foo, or yum install foo, or emerge foo. They can handle this. And even if they think they can't the GUI tools are there. Debian has synaptic, Red Hat has redhat-config-packages and synaptic, gentoo has kportage, etc. In my opinion, the difference is that on Linux, you don't really tend to go down to the store and buy a CD. You download it off the net and go. My wife (who types with a grand total of two fingers) has absolutely no trouble downloading an RPM, clicking on it, and finding me to enter the root password the system asked her for. How is that less than what you say is missing?
Well, you could ask the folks at freshrpms.net or fedora.us, who have had APT repositories of RPMs for Red Hat Linux for years. But to be more correct, up2date from Red Hat has had great dependency tracking for the last several major releases. the distinction between it and apt has been that it never supported a user-configurable list of sources. Now Red Hat has Fedora Core, and up2date supports APT repositories. Red Hat's add/remove software application (redhat-config-packages) really just need to be extended to query the sources the up2date uses, and you'll have GUI APT goodness with native RH tools. Or you can just grab apt and synaptci from any number of third party maintainers like freshrpms.net (fedora.us doesn't really count as third party anymore, since RH partnered with them to make Fedora Core).
Only because people like you have conditioned them to. People got along just fine with command lines in the DOS/Win 3.1 days. Sure they prefer a GUI, but they're only intimidated by the command line until they try it once. They probably don't even need a command shell, Windows and GNOME both offer a 'Run' menu item which gives them a pretty window to type a command into, and the system runs it. I imagine KDE has such a construct too.
I personally think LindowsOS (Linux) has got it right. I don't think their product is solid enough that I would use it, but they got the right idea regarding installation. You click on a link on their website and wham, the app is installed and ready to run. You can't get any simpler than that.
In GNOME, a disitribution can have a file-type preconfigured for the native pacakge format and launch the GUI package manager. In Red Hat you click on an RPM and it launches redhat-config-packages. In it's current version it doesn't find dependencies not packaged by Red Hat. Which is where Debian's synaptic (also available for Red Hat) wins out, as it uses a user configurable list of sources.
Mandrakes URPMI (with X rpmdrake) front is also a close contender. The only problem with that is there is no auto-configuration of the software source locations. You manually have to choose which FTP sites your files will come from. Their software catalog at MandrakeClub is decent, but could be organized in a way in which apps are easier to find.
This is where Debian has had the advantage for ages. The best combination I have found is apt+synaptic. Apt has been ported to RPM, so all you need is someone to build it and synaptic on mandrake, and away you go. From the RedHat crowd, up2date proved an awesome tool for Red Hat maintained packages, but didn't include third party. Owt of that crowd has come yum, which is a decent contender to apt, in my opinion, but it lacks a good gui like synaptic. RH has gone so far as to support apt and yum in the up2date tool, which rocks.
So I guess to wrap it up, all the facilities you want are available, just apparently not preconfigured on enough distributions yet.
don't you ever watch stargate? languages don't die, the poeple who speak them just get put to work on other planets!
was that a cleler forshadowing? <GRIN>