Except they don't. GNOME excels at having a polished, user-friendly interface, while KDE has killer technology under the hood. They're completely different, at least to people who actually use them, rather than report on them from afar.
If you don't look at the ease of use and application support aspects for a moment (a big if, but indulge me) Linux is already ahead of Windows. Let me use some examples from KDE:
1) KWallet provides an integrated password-handling mechanism throughout the system. I think MS Passport might do this, but it doesn't seem to handle any non-MS apps, like AIM. This is very nice if you're in a networked environment and have passwords everywhere.
2) KIO makes the network transparent. Windows struggles to browse shared files on other Windows machines. Every time I use "My Network Places," Explorer becomes totally unresponsive. Same for IE trying to browse an FTP site. Meanwhile, with KIO, I can save documents to an SSH server from any app I use. This came in tremendously handy recently when I was doing a web-page. Instead of bothering with file upload and download, I just edited files directly on the server (some Windows apps do this, but its not integrated into the system) and save screenshots directly onto the server. Office environments are getting highly networked, and its good to have a DE that is comfortable on a network.
3) It doesn't bog down under load. My problem with every networked Windows machine I've ever used is that when I'm under pressure to hit a deadline, and some system-intensive activity is going on in the background, the system becomes glacial. While Linux GUIs may not be the fastest on an unloaded machine, they respond beautifully under load (at least since preempt was introduced) and can save you a lot of frustration.
That's just the tip of the iceberg. What about being able to use KIO in every app? What about having all contacts stored in one place and used by every app? What about all apps using the same very high-level framework, so they look and act the same without any extra effort? What about having only one good HTML renderer throughout the whole system? What about KWallet (its new in 3.2) handling password-management for the whole system? What about being able to DCOP script pretty much everything? What about having KHotkeys automatically allowing mouse gestures in every app? (also new in 3.2) Even if you never embed something in something else, you reap the benefits of KDE's integration every time you use it.
While its debatable that embedding a spreadsheet into a wordprocessor is useful, you have to realize that the same technology is used for unarguably useful things like embedding KHTML into KMail.
Is every Christian responsible for the bombing of abortion clinics? Is every Muslim responsible for honor killings? >>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, that doesn't stop a whole lot of people from believing that all Christians are fundementalists that would bomb an abortion clinic, or an even larger number from believing that all Muslims are radicals that would commit suicide bombings. The public is easy to sway by flash and hard to sway by truth.
Slashdot never published a story saying that they were lying. The published a story titled "security experts doubt SCO was attacked." That, IMHO, is a perfectly reasonable article. Security experts did express doubts, afterall.
Deadlines are deadlines. Are you trying to imply that Icaza must have special priviledges when complying with rules, just because he's one of the Gnome founders? >>>>>>>>> Yes! I thought engineers hated beauracratic crap like that!
Iran isn't a dictatorship, and neither is China. Iran's current government, in particular, was put into power by the people. Its a repressive theocracy, don't get me wrong, but the people want it that way. I have no idea why, but its hardly surprising given how many people voluntarily lived under repressive Puritan and Calvanist theocracies.
Most of the UN is not constituted of dictatorial nations either. Look at the statistics yourself. Only about 20% of the countries are classified as non-free.
Its actually better than Win32. I doubt most X users use an eclectic mix of toolkits on a regular basis. Personally, I stick to KDE apps for all my regular usage, and use the occasional GTK+ app (like to transfer songs to my iPod). In Windows, you've got basic apps like MS Office, Explorer, and Visual Studio *all* using different toolkits. That's 3x as much bloat as I have on my desktop.
Canopy group is delusional, what's your point? If a single-digit stake makes them a Canopy group company, than that's really grasping at straws. Linux Networx (which delivered a top-5 Linux-based supercomputer to LLNL) is also a "feature company" on Canopy's website. A search for "canopy" on their website doesn't even get any hits. Seriously, the TT -> Canopy relationship is hugely overblown.
Mine's not a matter of feel. Benchmarks show that a G3 is only a bit faster than a PIII clock-for-clock. This was true back when Boot compared a 300MHz G3 to a 300MHz PII (same core architecture as the PIII) and its true today. The Pentium-M is significantly faster than the PIII clock for clock. Either way, a 900 MHz will lose very badly to a 1.7GHz P-M.
You know, I wouldn't mind about the government making new laws like this, if only they would make one that *I* want.
Stupidity should be punishable by death.
Go ahead and put this information on the web. Like people have said, it is already public, they are just changing the accessibility of it. However, if people how haven't done anything else get harassed because of it, the person doing the harassing should be put to death.
This is a secret? Pretty much anyone who did their homework going in knew that before buying. Those that didn't surely found out in time to take advantage of Apple's very liberal replacement policy.
Anyway, the third-gen iPods have a different battery (the lithium-polymer technology in the original one apparently was not ready for prime time) so the 1.5 year limit thing no longer applies. And they've got a battery replacement service now also.
Your perception is seriously off. First, there is no 2GHz Centrino. The fastest one is 1.7Ghz. Second, a Centrino is *extremely* fast clock-for-clock. Its even faster per-clock than a PIII. A 1.7GHz Centrino is about equal to a 2.6 GHz P4, or a hypothetical 1.9 GHz PIII.
"tons" is not a precise metric of computing power. Relatively, a G3 has very little horsepower. Its got a pretty crappy FPU, and isn't that much faster clock-for-clock than a PIII anyway. A 900Mhz iBook is probably comparable to a 900MHz or 1GHz Centrino.
Actually, that's not really true. The audio and NIC chips on NVIDIA's nForce is pretty good, and its not like I need anything more than the GeForce-class graphics processor on the nForce to run my xTerms:)
I'd say the number is higher than 99%, but its exactly that few percent that are the kicker. With modprobe, I can type "modprobe i810_audio" and the thing just starts working. If something goes wrong, I can check the dmesg output, and ahve a range of debugging options. With Windows, if something goes wrong, you're screwed. I've been trying to debug persistent wonkiness in the wireless card of one of my Windows machines. After months, I've just given up and take to reinstalling the drivers every month. It doesn't help that there are two competing wireless managers (the one that came with the card, and the one that comes with Windows) and I really don't think I can reproduce the exact steps I took to disable one and keep the two from interfering with each other.
Of course, that's largely a moot point --- current distros use something like hotplug or kudzu, so you don't have to use modprobe anyway. But the advanced troubleshooting options are still there if you need them.
RISC vs CISC means very little these days. Most current CPUs have a core even more minimal than RISC chips, but present a CISC (in the case of x86) or RISC (in the case of the G5) interface to the outside. They used the PPC 440 for different reasons:
1) IBM had to do significant custom engineering for it, and they own the PPC 440 core. That allowed them to use it to design an SoC.
2) They needed to add FPU hardware, which is easier to do on a design they own. The PIII only has one FPU, while this chip as 2 FPUs. IBM had to add this to the design, because the regular PPC-440 has no FPUs.
3) The PPC-440 was designed from the beginning to be an embedded CPU. At 1GHz, a stock PPC-440 consumes about 2.5W. Even a low voltage PIII consumes more than that.
Depends on what field you work in. If you work in academics or one of the humanities, you're laughed at if your resume isn't at least several pages long.
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I've got broadband and Windows still has a DUN client, what's your point?
Except they don't. GNOME excels at having a polished, user-friendly interface, while KDE has killer technology under the hood. They're completely different, at least to people who actually use them, rather than report on them from afar.
If you don't look at the ease of use and application support aspects for a moment (a big if, but indulge me) Linux is already ahead of Windows. Let me use some examples from KDE:
1) KWallet provides an integrated password-handling mechanism throughout the system. I think MS Passport might do this, but it doesn't seem to handle any non-MS apps, like AIM. This is very nice if you're in a networked environment and have passwords everywhere.
2) KIO makes the network transparent. Windows struggles to browse shared files on other Windows machines. Every time I use "My Network Places," Explorer becomes totally unresponsive. Same for IE trying to browse an FTP site. Meanwhile, with KIO, I can save documents to an SSH server from any app I use. This came in tremendously handy recently when I was doing a web-page. Instead of bothering with file upload and download, I just edited files directly on the server (some Windows apps do this, but its not integrated into the system) and save screenshots directly onto the server. Office environments are getting highly networked, and its good to have a DE that is comfortable on a network.
3) It doesn't bog down under load. My problem with every networked Windows machine I've ever used is that when I'm under pressure to hit a deadline, and some system-intensive activity is going on in the background, the system becomes glacial. While Linux GUIs may not be the fastest on an unloaded machine, they respond beautifully under load (at least since preempt was introduced) and can save you a lot of frustration.
That's just the tip of the iceberg. What about being able to use KIO in every app? What about having all contacts stored in one place and used by every app? What about all apps using the same very high-level framework, so they look and act the same without any extra effort? What about having only one good HTML renderer throughout the whole system? What about KWallet (its new in 3.2) handling password-management for the whole system? What about being able to DCOP script pretty much everything? What about having KHotkeys automatically allowing mouse gestures in every app? (also new in 3.2) Even if you never embed something in something else, you reap the benefits of KDE's integration every time you use it.
While its debatable that embedding a spreadsheet into a wordprocessor is useful, you have to realize that the same technology is used for unarguably useful things like embedding KHTML into KMail.
Is every Christian responsible for the bombing of abortion clinics? Is every Muslim responsible for honor killings?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
Unfortunately, that doesn't stop a whole lot of people from believing that all Christians are fundementalists that would bomb an abortion clinic, or an even larger number from believing that all Muslims are radicals that would commit suicide bombings. The public is easy to sway by flash and hard to sway by truth.
Slashdot never published a story saying that they were lying. The published a story titled "security experts doubt SCO was attacked." That, IMHO, is a perfectly reasonable article. Security experts did express doubts, afterall.
Deadlines are deadlines. Are you trying to imply that Icaza must have special priviledges when complying with rules, just because he's one of the Gnome founders?
>>>>>>>>>
Yes! I thought engineers hated beauracratic crap like that!
Iran isn't a dictatorship, and neither is China. Iran's current government, in particular, was put into power by the people. Its a repressive theocracy, don't get me wrong, but the people want it that way. I have no idea why, but its hardly surprising given how many people voluntarily lived under repressive Puritan and Calvanist theocracies.
Most of the UN is not constituted of dictatorial nations either. Look at the statistics yourself. Only about 20% of the countries are classified as non-free.
Yes, those dictatorial nations like France, Great Britain, and Germany...
Its actually better than Win32. I doubt most X users use an eclectic mix of toolkits on a regular basis. Personally, I stick to KDE apps for all my regular usage, and use the occasional GTK+ app (like to transfer songs to my iPod). In Windows, you've got basic apps like MS Office, Explorer, and Visual Studio *all* using different toolkits. That's 3x as much bloat as I have on my desktop.
Canopy group is delusional, what's your point? If a single-digit stake makes them a Canopy group company, than that's really grasping at straws. Linux Networx (which delivered a top-5 Linux-based supercomputer to LLNL) is also a "feature company" on Canopy's website. A search for "canopy" on their website doesn't even get any hits. Seriously, the TT -> Canopy relationship is hugely overblown.
Because you said:
"Other libraries such as WxWindows are already more widely accepted by free software developers."
That's just not true. There are *way* more Qt/KDE apps than WxWindows apps. You didn't mention the "crossplatform OSS projects" thing until now.
Mine's not a matter of feel. Benchmarks show that a G3 is only a bit faster than a PIII clock-for-clock. This was true back when Boot compared a 300MHz G3 to a 300MHz PII (same core architecture as the PIII) and its true today. The Pentium-M is significantly faster than the PIII clock for clock. Either way, a 900 MHz will lose very badly to a 1.7GHz P-M.
That's more of a reason to repleal retarded sex laws than anything else.
You know, I wouldn't mind about the government making new laws like this, if only they would make one that *I* want.
Stupidity should be punishable by death.
Go ahead and put this information on the web. Like people have said, it is already public, they are just changing the accessibility of it. However, if people how haven't done anything else get harassed because of it, the person doing the harassing should be put to death.
Very clean and simple, that.
This is a secret? Pretty much anyone who did their homework going in knew that before buying. Those that didn't surely found out in time to take advantage of Apple's very liberal replacement policy.
Anyway, the third-gen iPods have a different battery (the lithium-polymer technology in the original one apparently was not ready for prime time) so the 1.5 year limit thing no longer applies. And they've got a battery replacement service now also.
What the hell was the original poster thinking? Wireless? You wanna transfer 5GB of music over freaking wireless?
Your perception is seriously off. First, there is no 2GHz Centrino. The fastest one is 1.7Ghz. Second, a Centrino is *extremely* fast clock-for-clock. Its even faster per-clock than a PIII. A 1.7GHz Centrino is about equal to a 2.6 GHz P4, or a hypothetical 1.9 GHz PIII.
"tons" is not a precise metric of computing power. Relatively, a G3 has very little horsepower. Its got a pretty crappy FPU, and isn't that much faster clock-for-clock than a PIII anyway. A 900Mhz iBook is probably comparable to a 900MHz or 1GHz Centrino.
Actually, that's not really true. The audio and NIC chips on NVIDIA's nForce is pretty good, and its not like I need anything more than the GeForce-class graphics processor on the nForce to run my xTerms :)
I'd say the number is higher than 99%, but its exactly that few percent that are the kicker. With modprobe, I can type "modprobe i810_audio" and the thing just starts working. If something goes wrong, I can check the dmesg output, and ahve a range of debugging options. With Windows, if something goes wrong, you're screwed. I've been trying to debug persistent wonkiness in the wireless card of one of my Windows machines. After months, I've just given up and take to reinstalling the drivers every month. It doesn't help that there are two competing wireless managers (the one that came with the card, and the one that comes with Windows) and I really don't think I can reproduce the exact steps I took to disable one and keep the two from interfering with each other.
Of course, that's largely a moot point --- current distros use something like hotplug or kudzu, so you don't have to use modprobe anyway. But the advanced troubleshooting options are still there if you need them.
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RISC vs CISC means very little these days. Most current CPUs have a core even more minimal than RISC chips, but present a CISC (in the case of x86) or RISC (in the case of the G5) interface to the outside. They used the PPC 440 for different reasons:
1) IBM had to do significant custom engineering for it, and they own the PPC 440 core. That allowed them to use it to design an SoC.
2) They needed to add FPU hardware, which is easier to do on a design they own. The PIII only has one FPU, while this chip as 2 FPUs. IBM had to add this to the design, because the regular PPC-440 has no FPUs.
3) The PPC-440 was designed from the beginning to be an embedded CPU. At 1GHz, a stock PPC-440 consumes about 2.5W. Even a low voltage PIII consumes more than that.
Depends on what field you work in. If you work in academics or one of the humanities, you're laughed at if your resume isn't at least several pages long.
AKA the Robert Downey Jr. kernel :)
Yes, I posted the same joke on OSNews, sue me...